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Playoffs
02-17-2013, 01:59 PM
Mayock's. 5 deep rankings...

Quarterback
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. Matt Barkley, USC
3. Mike Glennon, NC State
4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Running Back
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Andre Ellington, Clemson
4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

Wide Receiver
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Keenan Allen, Cal
3. Terrance Williams, Baylor
4. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
5. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech

Tight End
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Jordan Reed, Florida

Center
1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, Cal
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

Guard
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

Tackle
1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

Defensive End
1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
2. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
3. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
T-5. Datone Jones, UCLA
T-5. Margus Hunt, SMU

Defensive Tackle
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Star Lotulelei, Utah
3. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
4. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
T-5. Kawann Short, Purdue
T-5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

Outside linebacker
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
4. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
5. Arthur Brown, Kansas State

Inside linebacker
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

Cornerback
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State
4. Desmond Trufant, Washington
5. Jordan Poyer, Oregon State

Safety
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Johnathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Zeke Motta, Notre Dame

TexansSeminole
02-17-2013, 11:06 PM
Crazy that DeAndre Hopkins is so underrated right now. Look for him to jump up draft board or surprise these experts come draft day. That guy is a first rounder.

Playoffs
02-18-2013, 12:16 AM
Crazy that DeAndre Hopkins is so underrated right now. Look for him to jump up draft board or surprise these experts come draft day. That guy is a first rounder.He'll rise. Nice in little article on him:

The Tape Never Lies: Clemson’s DeAndre Hopkins has quick feet, burst (http://blogs.thescore.com/nfl/2013/02/13/the-tape-never-lies-clemsons-deandre-hopkins-has-quick-feet-burst/)

Wolf6151
02-18-2013, 02:00 AM
Crazy that DeAndre Hopkins is so underrated right now. Look for him to jump up draft board or surprise these experts come draft day. That guy is a first rounder.

I agree completely, absolutely a 1st rounder and I'd have to problem if the Texans took him or Quinton Patton in the 1st round. Great hands, attacks the ball, great feet, strong, good size, and he's physical.

aussie_texan
02-18-2013, 08:59 AM
Floyd as the number 1 dt is interesting

Playoffs
02-18-2013, 02:01 PM
What we learned about draft from Mayock conference call: (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4739998/what-we-learned-about-draft-from-mayock)
1. Best overall depth in 10 years. In his opening remarks, Mayock provided the following snapshot of the 2013 draft: Possibly the best overall depth he’s seen in 10 years, not the standard difference-makers in the top 10, and a lot of holes in the quarterbacks. Later, Mayock added that he doesn’t see much of a difference between picks 5 and 25. The Patriots have just five selections in the draft, and perhaps the depth of the draft leads Bill Belichick to seek trade-downs to bolster his draft-day ammunition.

2. One of the best safety classes in years. Mayock views this safety class as one of the best he’s seen. This echoes the thoughts of ESPN’s Todd McShay from last week, who called this a “very deep group of safeties.” One thing to keep in mind on this type of information is that if a team like the Patriots views it the same way, it could affect the level of aggressiveness of potential pursuit of free agents like Ed Reed and/or Charles Woodson. Understanding the areas of strength of the draft, and marrying it to free agency, is an annual exercise in front offices around the NFL.

3. If you like Anquan Boldin … Keenan Allen could be your WR. California receiver Keenan Allen (6-3, 210) drew raves from Mayock, who made the point that if teams are comfortable with Allen’s speed, he could be viewed as an Anquan Boldin-type. But if teams get hung up on speed questions with Allen, that could lead him to slide a bit. Mayock seems to think Allen is a nice fit in the 20-30 range of the first round, citing his size, toughness and ability to get off press coverage, among other things. The Patriots pick at No. 29 and if they inject some size and youth at receiver, Allen could be a player on their radar if he slides (which could happen if he doesn’t run sub-4.5 in the 40 at the combine).

4. Just one cornerback with first-round grade at this time. When Mayock shared some of his prospects with first-round grades, he highlighted six offensive tackles, six defensive tackles, two receivers and one cornerback. The light cornerback class after Alabama’s Dee Milliner was notable from this perspective because it could be an area of interest for the Patriots. Mayock said Mississippi State’s Johnthan Banks could work his way into the first round by running well at the combine. One other point from Mayock that adds good context for this time of year: cornerbacks and receivers are “true speed positions” and the combine is where teams look for the an accurate gauge of their speed.

5. Chance Warmack – best player on tape. Mayock said that Alabama guard Chance Warmack is the best player he’s seen on tape this year. He put Warmack, Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, Central Michigan offensive tackle Eric Fisher and North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper as the four players who the Chiefs would be deciding between with the No. 1 overall pick.

El Tejano
02-19-2013, 01:25 PM
Kenny Vaccaro will be on my list.

htownfan32
02-19-2013, 01:48 PM
What we learned about draft from Mayock conference call: (http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4739998/what-we-learned-about-draft-from-mayock)


I have us taking Allen in the 1st round. He'll fall because teams will pick based on 40 yard times instead of other indicators of talent.

IDEXAN
02-19-2013, 02:02 PM
5. Chance Warmack – best player on tape. Mayock said that Alabama guard Chance Warmack is the best player he’s seen on tape this year. He put Warmack, Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, Central Michigan offensive tackle Eric Fisher and North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper as the four players who the Chiefs would be deciding between with the No. 1 overall pick.
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(1) Warmack may be his highest rated player in this Draft, but the Chiefs won't ge taking him #1 nor will anybody else. Tell me just one guard or center who was a top 5 pick in the Draft ? Ever ? So forget about even top 5, let alone #1.
(2) Is WR Hopkins really that good ? I've never seen him play ?

TexansSeminole
02-19-2013, 02:39 PM
5. Chance Warmack – best player on tape. Mayock said that Alabama guard Chance Warmack is the best player he’s seen on tape this year. He put Warmack, Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, Central Michigan offensive tackle Eric Fisher and North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper as the four players who the Chiefs would be deciding between with the No. 1 overall pick.
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(1) Warmack may be his highest rated player in this Draft, but the Chiefs won't ge taking him #1 nor will anybody else. Tell me just one guard or center who was a top 5 pick in the Draft ? Ever ? So forget about even top 5, let alone #1.
(2) Is WR Hopkins really that good ? I've never seen him play ?

Hopkins is a playmaker, plain and simple. He's no megatron or Andre Johnson from what I have seen, but he's my favorite receiver in this draft by a long shot. I wouldn't expect him to run real fast. Maybe between 4.45 and 4.55, but he really goes after the ball when it is in the air and he has a tendency to beat his man. He's not slow by any means but don't expect a blazing time at the combine.

Insideop
02-19-2013, 09:41 PM
Hopkins is a playmaker, plain and simple. He's no megatron or Andre Johnson from what I have seen, but he's my favorite receiver in this draft by a long shot. I wouldn't expect him to run real fast. Maybe between 4.45 and 4.55, but he really goes after the ball when it is in the air and he has a tendency to beat his man. He's not slow by any means but don't expect a blazing time at the combine.

Speaking of which, does anyone know what Hopkins real height is? I've seen him listed anywhere between 5'11" and 6'1". Don't know who or what to believe, but it could make a difference where he's drafted. And, if he is only 5'11" he better have more than 4.5 speed or he could drop to the 2nd round or later.

Lucky
02-19-2013, 09:48 PM
(1) Warmack may be his highest rated player in this Draft, but the Chiefs won't ge taking him #1 nor will anybody else. Tell me just one guard or center who was a top 5 pick in the Draft ? Ever ? So forget about even top 5, let alone #1.
You have to go back awhile, but in 1975 Ken Huff was drafted #3 overall by the Colts to play guard. A couple of years earlier, John Hannah was taken #4 by the Pats. It's not common and it won't happen this year. Unless it does.

Dean Steinkuhler was an Outland award winning guard for Nebraska. But he was taken #2 overall by the Oilers in 1984 to play tackle.

TexansSeminole
02-19-2013, 09:49 PM
Speaking of which, does anyone know what Hopkins real height is? I've seen him listed anywhere between 5'11" and 6'1". Don't know who or what to believe, but it could make a difference where he's drafted. And, if he is only 5'11" he better have more than 4.5 speed or he could drop to the 2nd round or later.

He looks about 6'1". The most common height I see is 6' and the most common weight I see is 200 lbs. We shall see once the combine gets going.

IDEXAN
02-20-2013, 07:00 AM
You have to go back awhile, but in 1975 Ken Huff was drafted #3 overall by the Colts to play guard. A couple of years earlier, John Hannah was taken #4 by the Pats. It's not common and it won't happen this year. Unless it does.

Dean Steinkuhler was an Outland award winning guard for Nebraska. But he was taken #2 overall by the Oilers in 1984 to play tackle.
Way, way back in the '70s the league barely knew what a forward pass was when compared to the pass-happy offenses of the modern NFL. Accordingly they didn't have to worry about protecting the QB in the pocket until the game started to go airborne, and then along came L.Taylor and OTs protecting the edge became much more valuable while interior Olineman (guards & centers) who were primarily run-blockers.
The one interior Olineman I seem to recall getting really big bucks and big headlines was the free agency deal the Vikings pulled off to steal guard Steve Hutchinson from the Seahawks, and even that situation was 'bout 20 years ago.

Insideop
02-20-2013, 09:09 AM
Way, way back in the '70s the league barely knew what a forward pass was when compared to the pass-happy offenses of the modern NFL. Accordingly they didn't have to worry about protecting the QB in the pocket until the game started to go airborne, and then along came L.Taylor and OTs protecting the edge became much more valuable while interior Olineman (guards & centers) who were primarily run-blockers.
The one interior Olineman I seem to recall getting really big bucks and big headlines was the free agency deal the Vikings pulled off to steal guard Steve Hutchinson from the Seahawks, and even that situation was 'bout 20 years ago.

Ha ha ha! 20 years ago! It was in 2006 when the Vikes used a "poison pill" in the FA contract offered to Hutchinson that Seattle couldn't match. He played last season for the "tacks."

IDEXAN
02-20-2013, 09:34 AM
Ha ha ha! 20 years ago! It was in 2006 when the Vikes used a "poison pill" in the FA contract offered to Hutchinson that Seattle couldn't match. He played last season for the "tacks."
Wow ! I really pulled those dates out of my azz ! Don't know where they came from, but big Steve was only 'bout 15 when he got that big FA deal with the Vikings, according to my numbers.
Thanks for setting me straight there, Insideop.

beerlover
02-20-2013, 09:37 AM
Barrett Jones 3rd best Center prospect :mcnugget:

Insideop
02-20-2013, 02:35 PM
Wow ! I really pulled those dates out of my azz ! Don't know where they came from, but big Steve was only 'bout 15 when he got that big FA deal with the Vikings, according to my numbers.
Thanks for setting me straight there, Insideop.

No problem! I find the older we get the more time becomes a complete blur! :shocked

Doppelganger
02-20-2013, 06:41 PM
5. Chance Warmack – best player on tape. Mayock said that Alabama guard Chance Warmack is the best player he’s seen on tape this year. He put Warmack, Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel, Central Michigan offensive tackle Eric Fisher and North Carolina guard Jonathan Cooper as the four players who the Chiefs would be deciding between with the No. 1 overall pick.
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(1) Warmack may be his highest rated player in this Draft, but the Chiefs won't ge taking him #1 nor will anybody else. Tell me just one guard or center who was a top 5 pick in the Draft ? Ever ? So forget about even top 5, let alone #1.
(2) Is WR Hopkins really that good ? I've never seen him play ?

The highest off the top of my head was Mike Munchak #8 in 82. That said, if you draft a OG number one, he better be the second coming of Munchak, Steve Hutchinson, Larry Allen, Randall McDaniel, or Gene Upshaw.

b0ng
02-21-2013, 12:07 AM
The highest off the top of my head was Mike Munchak #8 in 82. That said, if you draft a OG number one, he better be the second coming of Munchak, Steve Hutchinson, Larry Allen, Randall McDaniel, or Gene Upshaw.

I agree, nobody drafts a G that highly in the first round unless they have plans on moving him to tackle. If Warmack fell that far to the Texans he'd certainly have to be close to the highest BPA at that spot for sure.

The NT depth and the WR depth are both very very intriguing for this years draft. OLB, meh not so much, ILB has some decent looking guys, and Safety seems to have a lot of decent prospects. Also I like a lot of the OT's coming out too, but I have to say WR is definitely the most intriguing class to me in terms of what the Texans have a shot at getting.

TexansSeminole
02-24-2013, 11:06 AM
Speaking of which, does anyone know what Hopkins real height is? I've seen him listed anywhere between 5'11" and 6'1". Don't know who or what to believe, but it could make a difference where he's drafted. And, if he is only 5'11" he better have more than 4.5 speed or he could drop to the 2nd round or later.

Turns out he is 6'1" 214 lbs. Ran a 4.50 and lifted 15 times.

Playoffs
03-01-2013, 07:29 PM
Post Combine adjustments:

Quarterback
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. Matt Barkley, USC
3. Mike Glennon, NC State
4. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

Running Back
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Andre Ellington, Clemson
4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

Wide Receiver
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Keenan Allen, Cal
3. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
4. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
5. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

New entry: Hopkins
Rise: Austin (4), Patton (5)
Out: Terrance Williams, Baylor (3)

Tight End
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Vance McDonald, Rice

New entry: McDonald
Out: Jordan Reed, Florida (5)

Center
1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, Cal
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

Guard
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

Tackle
1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

4-3 Defensive End
1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
2. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
5. Tank Carradine, Florida State

3-4 Defensive End
1. Star Lotulelei, Utah
2. Margus Hunt, SMU
3. Datone Jones, UCLA
4. Jesse Williams, Alabama
5. William Gholston, Michigan State

Defensive Tackle
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
4. Kawann Short, Purdue
5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

Rise: Richardson (3), Williams (4), Short (5)

4-3 Outside Linebacker
1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
3. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
4. Sio Moore, Connecticut
5. Chase Thomas, Stanford


3-4 Outside Linebacker
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss
3. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

Inside Linebacker
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

Cornerback
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Desmond Trufant, Washington
4. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut
5. B.W. Webb, William & Mary

New entry: Wreh-Wilson, Webb
Rise: Trufant (4), Patton (5)
Out: Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State (3); Jordan Poyer, Oregon State (5)

Safety
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

New entry: Thomas
Out: Zeke Motta, Notre Dame (5)

Number19
03-02-2013, 09:59 AM
Arthur Brown has a shoulder injury which prevented him playing in the Senior Bowel and participating in the combine. No reports on the extent of the injury have been released, but it has everyone interested in Brown concerned. Kansas State's pro day is March 12 and his draft status will likely drop (how much?) if his medical status is not more positive by this time.

Playoffs
03-07-2013, 04:27 PM
Quarterback
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. EJ Manuel, Florida State
3. Matt Barkley, USC
4. Mike Glennon, N.C. State
T-5. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
T-5. Landry Jones, Oklahoma

New entry: Manuel

Running Back
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Andre Ellington, Clemson
4. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

Wide Receiver
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Keenan Allen, Cal
3. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
4. Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech
5. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson

Tight End
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Vance McDonald, Rice

Center
1. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
2. Brian Schwenke, Cal
3. Barrett Jones, Alabama
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

Guard
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Larry Warford, Kentucky
4. Kyle Long, Oregon
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

Tackle
1. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
2. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

4-3 Defensive End
1. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
2. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
T-5. Tank Carradine, Florida State
T-5. Alex Okafor, Texas

New entry: Okafor

3-4 Defensive End
1. Star Lotulelei, Utah
2. Margus Hunt, SMU
3. Datone Jones, UCLA
4. Jesse Williams, Alabama
5. William Gholston, Michigan State

Defensive Tackle
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
4. Kawann Short, Purdue
5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

Rise: Richardson (3), Williams (4), Short (5)

4-3 Outside Linebacker
1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
4. Sio Moore, Connecticut
5. Chase Thomas, Stanford

Rise: Brown (3)

3-4 Outside Linebacker
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss
3. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

Inside Linebacker
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

Cornerback
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. Desmond Trufant, Washington
4. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut
5. B.W. Webb, William & Mary

Safety
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

Playoffs
04-05-2013, 08:21 PM
Quarterback
1. Geno Smith, West Virginia
2. EJ Manuel, Florida State
3. Matt Barkley, USC
4. Mike Glennon, N.C. State
T-5. Ryan Nassib, Syracuse
T-5. Tyler Bray, Tennessee

New entry: Bray
Out: Landry Jones, Oklahoma (T-5)

Running Back
1. Eddie Lacy, Alabama
2. Montee Ball, Wisconsin
3. Christine Michael, Texas A&M
4. Andre Ellington, Clemson
T-5. Giovani Bernard, North Carolina
T-5. Marcus Lattimore, South Carolina

New entry: Michael

Wide Receiver
1. Cordarrelle Patterson, Tennessee
2. Tavon Austin, West Virginia
3. Keenan Allen, Cal
4. DeAndre Hopkins, Clemson
5. Robert Woods, USC

New entry: Woods
Rise: Austin (3), Hopkins (5)
Out: Quinton Patton, Louisiana Tech (4)

Tight End
1. Tyler Eifert, Notre Dame
2. Zach Ertz, Stanford
3. Gavin Escobar, San Diego State
4. Travis Kelce, Cincinnati
5. Vance McDonald, Rice

Center
1. Brian Schwenke, Cal
2. Barrett Jones, Alabama
3. Travis Frederick, Wisconsin
4. Khaled Holmes, USC
5. Braxston Cave, Notre Dame

Rise: Schwenke (2), Jones (3)

Guard
1. Chance Warmack, Alabama
2. Jonathan Cooper, North Carolina
3. Kyle Long, Oregon
4. Larry Warford, Kentucky
5. Brian Winters, Kent State

Rise: Long (4)

Tackle
1. Eric Fisher, Central Michigan
2. Luke Joeckel, Texas A&M
3. Lane Johnson, Oklahoma
4. D.J. Fluker, Alabama
T-5. Menelik Watson, Florida State
T-5. Justin Pugh, Syracuse

Rise: Fisher (2)

4-3 Defensive End
1. Ezekiel Ansah, BYU
2. Bjoern Werner, Florida State
3. Damontre Moore, Texas A&M
4. Sam Montgomery, LSU
T-5. Tank Carradine, Florida State
T-5. Alex Okafor, Texas

Rise: Ansah (2)

3-4 Defensive End
1. Star Lotulelei, Utah
2. Datone Jones, UCLA
3. Margus Hunt, SMU
4. William Gholston, Michigan State
5. Jesse Williams, Alabama

Rise: Jones (3), Gholston (5)

Defensive Tackle
1. Sharrif Floyd, Florida
2. Sheldon Richardson, Missouri
3. Sylvester Williams, North Carolina
4. Kawann Short, Purdue
5. Johnathan Hankins, Ohio State

4-3 Outside Linebacker
1. Jarvis Jones, Georgia
2. Arthur Brown, Kansas State
3. Khaseem Greene, Rutgers
4. Sio Moore, Connecticut
5. Chase Thomas, Stanford

3-4 Outside Linebacker
1. Dion Jordan, Oregon
2. Barkevious Mingo, LSU
3. Jamie Collins, Southern Miss
4. Michael Buchanan, Illinois
5. Corey Lemonier, Auburn

Rise: Mingo (3)

Inside Linebacker
1. Alec Ogletree, Georgia
2. Manti Te'o, Notre Dame
3. Kevin Minter, LSU
4. Kevin Reddick, North Carolina
5. Kiko Alonso, Oregon

Cornerback
1. Dee Milliner, Alabama
2. Xavier Rhodes, Florida State
3. D.J. Hayden, Houston
4. Desmond Trufant, Washington
5. Johnthan Banks, Mississippi State

New entry: Banks
Out: Blidi Wreh-Wilson, Connecticut

Safety
1. Kenny Vaccaro, Texas
2. Matt Elam, Florida
3. Jonathan Cyprien, Florida International
4. Eric Reid, LSU
5. Shamarko Thomas, Syracuse

Playoffs
04-20-2013, 12:02 PM
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Mike Mayock, @GregCosell, and @SC_DougFarrar all consider D.J. Hayden the No. 1 CB in this year's draft:

Playoffs
04-20-2013, 12:04 PM
2013 NFL Draft: Mike Mayock's top 100 prospects (http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/0ap1000000161676/article/2013-nfl-draft-mike-mayocks-top-100-prospects)

1. Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
2. Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
3. Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
4. Chance Warmack, OG, Alabama
5. Dion Jordan, DE/OLB, Oregon
6. Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
7. Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
8. Jonathan Cooper, OG, North Carolina
9. Ziggy Ansah, DE, BYU
10. Barkevious Mingo, DE, LSU

11. Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
12. Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
13. Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
14. D.J. Hayden, CB, Houston
15. D.J. Fluker, OT, Alabama
16. Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
17. Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
18. Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
19. Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
20. Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State

21. Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
22. Sylvester Williams, DT, North Carolina
23. Manti Te'o, ILB, Notre Dame
24. Justin Pugh, OT, Syracuse
25. Matt Elam, FS, Florida
26. Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
27. Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
28. Eric Reid,FS, LSU
29. Kyle Long,OG, Oregon
30. Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee

31. Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
32. Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
33. Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
34. Kevin Minter,ILB, LSU
35. Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
36. Arthur Brown, ILB, Kansas State
37. Keenan Allen, WR, California
38. Jonathan Cyprien, FS, Florida International
39. Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
40. Kawann Short, DT, Purdue

41. EJ Manuel, QB, Florida State
42. DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
43. Matt Barkley, QB, USC
44. Alec Ogletree, ILB, Georgia
45. Robert Woods, WR, USC
46. Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
47. Larry Warford,, OG, Kentucky
48. Johnthan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
49. Jamie Collins, OLB, Southern Mississippi
50. Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse

51. Jamar Taylor, CB, Boise State
52. Montee Ball, RB, Wisconsin
53. Terrance Williams,, WR, Baylor
54. Cornelius Washington, OLB, Georgia
55. Brian Schwenke, C, California
56. Tank Carradine, DE, Florida State
57. D.J. Swearinger, SS, South Carolina
58. Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
59. Darius Slay, CB, Mississippi State
60. Aaron Dobson, WR, Marshall

61. Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas-Pine Bluff
62. Bennie Logan, DT, LSU
63. Giovani Bernard, RB, North Carolina
64. Sio Moore, OLB, Connecticut
65. Jon Bostic, OLB, Florida
66. Blidi Wreh-Wilson, CB, Connecticut
67. B.W. Webb, CB, William & Mary
68. J.J. Wilcox, FS, Georgia Southern
69. Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
70. Brian Winters, OG, Kent

71. John Jenkins, DT, Georgia
72. Dwayne Gratz, CB, Connecticut
73. Stedman Bailey, WR, West Virginia
74. Robert Alford, CB, Southeastern Louisiana
75. Andre Ellington, RB, Clemson
76. Gavin Escobar, TE, San Diego State
77. William Gholston, DE, Michigan State
78. Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech
79. Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
80. Travis Kelce, TE, Cincinnati

81. Mike Glennon, QB, North Carolina State
82. David Bakhtiari, OT, Colorado
83. Brandon Williams, DT, Missouri Southern State
84. David Quessenberry, OT, San Jose State
85. Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
86. Tyler Bray, QB, Tennessee
87. Christine Michael, RB, Texas A&M
88. Markus Wheaton, WR, Oregon State
89. John Simon, DT, Ohio State
90. Dallas Thomas, OT, Tennessee

91. Barrett Jones, OG, Alabama
92. Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
93. Marquise Goodwin, WR, Texas
94. Le'Veon Bell, RB, Michigan State
95. Shamarko Thomas, SS, Syracuse
96. Vance McDonald, TE, Rice
97. Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
98. Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU
99. David Amerson, CB, North Carolina State
100. Johnathan Franklin, RB, UCLA

76Texan
04-20-2013, 01:40 PM
Evan Silva ‏@evansilva

Hayden #1 prospect at CB?
Wow! That's amazing for a guy who had a near-death experience just a few months ago.

A DE at #27 looks like a real possibility for the Texans.
It's not too early to prepare for the exit of Antonio Smith and an insurance policy in case Watt simply costs toooo tooooo much.

76Texan
04-20-2013, 01:50 PM
Cherry picking that list; I would settle for:

Datone Jones DE in the first.
Choice of Armstead OT or Sio Moore ILB/OLB in the second.
Shamarko Thomas SS and Jesse Williams NT in the third.

drs23
04-20-2013, 04:09 PM
Hayden #1 prospect at CB?
Wow! That's amazing for a guy who had a near-death experience just a few months ago.

A DE at #27 looks like a real possibility for the Texans.
It's not too early to prepare for the exit of Antonio Smith and an insurance policy in case Watt simply costs toooo tooooo much.

And how much is that? My bet is he'll command more than Mario did. Will the Texans pony up? I can't see McNair letting him hit the open market...at least I hope not. I want to see him retire a Texan and five years later be fitted for his gold jacket. :swatter:

GP
04-20-2013, 04:51 PM
What would it take to....

Grab one of the good WRs off Mayock's Top 5 list,

Then....

Trade back into the first round (New England is always game for that) and grab the top TE, Mr. Eifert from Notre Dame.

That'd give us a legitimate WR-TE combo to pair with AJ, OD, Graham and Martin. Grooms those two rookies to take AJ and OD's positions in the future.

Could we give up our 2013 2nd and next year's 2nd rounder to get it done? I don't know the draft position calculations well enough to know yes or no. I'm assuming any aggressive move(s) we make would call for next year's 2nd rounder in most situations.

GP
04-20-2013, 04:52 PM
Sort of ready to see us create a new chapter here by selecting better talent on the offense side of the ball.

mussop
04-21-2013, 11:45 PM
Sort of ready to see us create a new chapter here by selecting better talent on the offense side of the ball.

I'm just ready for this draft. I don't see too many ways that we can go wrong with our first four picks. Lots of good talent there. It's the late ones where it seems like Smith always try's to get cute and passes on good players for players no one has ever heard of.