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Luv_ya_blue
02-08-2013, 08:01 AM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/joe-flacco-tokld-teammates-tackle-ted-ginn-sideline-165726030--nfl.html


NFL Films' "Sound FX" program caught the drama for posterity (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-films-sound-efx/0ap2000000136915/Sound-FX-Ravens-win-Super-Bowl-XLVII).

"Are we gonna win this?" Flacco asked Ravens head coach John Harbaugh from the sideline.

"Yeah -- the game's over if we cover this kick," Harbaugh responded.

"We don't make it easy, do we?" Flacco posited.

"No, we don't," Harbaugh said.

"If he starts to break it, go tackle him," Flacco then said to Pitta.

"Really?"

"I don't know ... I mean ... what else can they ... they might be able to give them a touchdown on that? I don't know," Flacco told Pitta.

Flacco, flush with enthusiasm over his new tackling tactic, then went around and tried to get other teammates on his side.

"Hey! If he breaks this ... if he busts it for some reason? Tackle him! Go tackle him," Flacco said to guard Marshal Yanda and center Matt Birk. "I don't know what the rule is on that, but..."

"Why don't you?" Yanda asked.

"I'm going to!"


Real upstanding guy right there!
Definitely MVP caliber ethics.

rmartin65
02-08-2013, 08:29 AM
Seems like a smart play. He was not calling to injure the guy, just to stop him. Non-story.

Luv_ya_blue
02-08-2013, 09:01 AM
Seems like a smart play. He was not calling to injure the guy, just to stop him. Non-story.

The SB MVP asking his teammates to come off the bench and flagrantly foul a member of the opposing team--even saying that he himself was going to do it, just for the win. Even contemplating the legality of the action.

Non-story?
Really?

rmartin65
02-08-2013, 09:11 AM
The SB MVP asking his teammates to come off the bench and flagrantly foul a member of the opposing team--even saying that he himself was going to do it, just for the win. Even contemplating the legality of the action.

Non-story?
Really?

You play to win the game.

Again, he is not talking about injuring someone, just taking a penalty. It's no different than taking a delay of game penalty to allow more room for a punt, or to kill the clock.

And it would have been funny had he done it, then the refs award the 49ers the TD anyway.

STEEL BLUE TEXANS
02-08-2013, 09:13 AM
Some ppl on this board are really desperate to knock Flacco in any way possible. lol

Luv_ya_blue
02-08-2013, 09:17 AM
Some ppl on this board are really desperate to knock Flacco in any way possible. lol

If this is directed at me, you're incorrect.
I respect the guy's abilities. He got it done.

This sort of comment (Flacco's, not yours) is deplorable imo.

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 09:27 AM
#1- Was the guy asking for his teammaes to HURT someone? NO. Non-story

#2- just like the 5 Ravens who held like a mo-fro on the safety- if its called, they can't award 2 safeties.

#3- they discussed it on NFL LIve on ESPN- Merril Hoge, the noted raven hater/Steeler lover, said "Its done all the time- everyone talks like this on the sideline" Darrren Sharper backed him up

Non-story. Get off your high moral horse.

Stemp
02-08-2013, 09:28 AM
Flacco is a moron who doesn't even know the rules.

Touchdown Awarded (Palpably Unfair Act)
When Referee determines a palpably unfair act deprived a team of a touchdown. (Example: Player comes off bench and tackles runner apparently en route to touchdown.)
http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 09:38 AM
Flacco is a moron who doesn't even know the rules.


http://www.nfl.com/rulebook/penaltysummaries

Yeah, he's a moron all right.


You have no idea how many players don't know the rules...if they did, we wouldn't need referees, right? They could just call fouls themselves like in pick up bball?

Yeah, right.....

Double Barrel
02-08-2013, 09:45 AM
Aren't purposeful fouls used all the time in basketball?

I've seen balls superficially thrown to hit batters in baseball.

It's called tactical decisions.

I don't see this as anything other than doing what it takes to win. If this was Schaub, this would be celebrated by Texans fans.

What's the old saying, if you're not cheating your not trying? The 49ers had plenty of chances to win that game. Acting like the last play was bigger than it was is making mountains out of molehills.

Stemp
02-08-2013, 09:50 AM
Yeah, he's a moron all right.


You have no idea how many players don't know the rules...if they did, we wouldn't need referees, right? They could just call fouls themselves like in pick up bball?

Yeah, right.....

That is a stupid and ridiculous argument.

I really wish he would have tackled the breakaway ball carrier. Then he would have PROVEN to the entire WORLD he is a moron, because only that type of person would think that A) tackling from the sideline was a loophole in the rules and B) if it was, we wouldn't see it all the time on kickoff returns for a touchdown.

FACT: Flacco is a MORON!

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 09:59 AM
That is a stupid and ridiculous argument.

I really wish he would have tackled the breakaway ball carrier. Then he would have PROVEN to the entire WORLD he is a moron, because only that type of person would think that A) tackling from the sideline was a loophole in the rules and B) if it was, we wouldn't see it all the time on kickoff returns for a touchdown.

FACT: Flacco is a MORON!

Wow- guess you didn't know that san fran could have been awarded a touchdown tereby winning the game?

Luv_ya_blue
02-08-2013, 10:04 AM
Wow- guess you didn't know that san fran could have been awarded a touchdown tereby winning the game?

Wouldn't have made him any less of a moron!

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 10:06 AM
Wouldn't have made him any less of a moron!

Sour grapes

Stemp
02-08-2013, 10:07 AM
wow- guess you didn't know that san fran could have been awarded a touchdown tereby winning the game?

That is why he is a moron!
Not only would embarrass himself and his team, but they would lose the game anyway!

HoustonFrog
02-08-2013, 10:09 AM
Hey I actually think this makes him smart. I didn't even know what the rule was but who would be hurt if he did it and the refs had to make a decision. I saw another article where the choices were a) award the TD or b) spot foul and a free play...FG attempt. I don't mind that he was thinking ahead and doing anything to win. People calling him a moron I guarantee had to look up the rule and are just bitter. Why be so angry about a guy who had a great run and who was trying to secure a victory. What? You mean football players aren't all Rhodes Scholars? Noooooooo. I've never seen so many people get upset over such pathetic stuff.

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 10:11 AM
:thumbupHey I actually think this makes him smart. I didn't even know what the rule was but who would be hurt if he did it and the refs had to make a decision. I saw another article where the choices were a) award the TD or b) spot foul and a free play...FG attempt. I don't mind that he was thinking ahead and doing anything to win. People calling him a moron I guarantee had to look up the rule and are just bitter. Why be so angry about a guy who had a great run and who was trying to secure a victory. What? You mean football players aren't all Rhodes Scholars? Noooooooo.

Playoffs
02-08-2013, 10:13 AM
Flacco obviously hasn't heard of Tommy Lewis in the 1954 Cotton Bowl:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSteCSinjTs


Marshall Yanda > Joe Flacco: "Why don't you?" Yanda asked.

Stemp
02-08-2013, 10:15 AM
Hey I actually think this makes him smart. I didn't even know what the rule was but who would be hurt if he did it and the refs had to make a decision. I saw another article where the choices were a) award the TD or b) spot foul and a free play...FG attempt. I don't mind that he was thinking ahead and doing anything to win. People calling him a moron I guarantee had to look up the rule and are just bitter. Why be so angry about a guy who had a great run and who was trying to secure a victory. What? You mean football players aren't all Rhodes Scholars? Noooooooo. I've never seen so many people get upset over such pathetic stuff.

Again, taking 5 seconds to think about it, if tackling from the sideline could give a competative advantage, like possibly getting a penalty and forcing them to kick or drive the ball, don't you think teams would have taken advantage of it by now??

Playoffs
02-08-2013, 10:19 AM
Again, taking 5 seconds to think about it, if tackling from the sideline could give a competative advantage, like possibly getting a penalty and forcing them to kick or drive the ball, don't you think teams would have taken advantage of it by now??

Jets staff did it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3mFyKhJhfQ

TheIronDuke
02-08-2013, 10:27 AM
I really don't understand why there's so much Flacco hate going around here lately. Pretty ridiculous to be bashing a QB that just won a Super Bowl when we have a QB who can't even play well in a Pro Bowl.

Imagine what Schaub would be saying in that situation, not that he'd get us there. Kubes wouldn't even be looking at the field and Marciano's garbage ST would probably give up a TD anyway.

Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 10:33 AM
:popcorn:

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Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 10:41 AM
I really don't understand why there's so much Flacco hate going around here lately. Pretty ridiculous to be bashing a QB that just won a Super Bowl when we have a QB who can't even play well in a Pro Bowl.

Imagine what Schaub would be saying in that situation, not that he'd get us there. Kubes wouldn't even be looking at the field and Marciano's garbage ST would probably give up a TD anyway.

:soapbox: For the record I started a thread in which I called him mediocre which in essence is saying that he's "average" or just plain "run of the mill." Calling someone "Average" isn't bashing. Saying:

A. He didn't belong in the NFL

or

B. That he was PATHOS INCARNATE and should never have picked up a football...

or

C. is such a miserable athlete he shouldn't be allowed to WATCH football...

would have been bashing. I said NONE of those things. I didn't even IMPLY such. I merely said I thought he was an average QB who isn't worth $100 million over five years. 100 million pesos, drachma, lira, ruples, dong Vietnamese Piasters....MAYBE but certainly not DOLLARS.

Thank you.:soapbox:

TheIronDuke
02-08-2013, 10:47 AM
I see the thread about him being average. I'd rather have Flacco "wins playoff games and a Super Bowl" average than Schaub's brand of average any day of the week. Mario Williams gets paid $20M a year too so why shouldn't Flacco?

GP
02-08-2013, 10:49 AM
Has anybody paused for just a single second....and thought to themselves "Maybe he was joking..."?

The guy's amped up, he's about to win a SB, and he's jacking his jaw on the sideline "Hey, if they start a score a TD...go out there and tackle him! Tackle that guy! Can we do that? Hey, Yanda...go tackle the guy if he busts loose on us...." Yanda jokes back, "Why don't YOU?..." followed by laughter.

Please, people...stop it already.

I'm pretty sure Joe Flacco knows that nobody on that team would do that sort of thing. Occam's razor: He was amped up and being jovial, jacking his jaw and finding humor in the midst of tension.

Double Barrel
02-08-2013, 11:03 AM
I see the thread about him being average. I'd rather have Flacco "wins playoff games and a Super Bowl" average than Schaub's brand of average any day of the week. Mario Williams gets paid $20M a year too so why shouldn't Flacco?

No doubt.

Yeah, the "average" QB has 6 wins in road playoff games...oh wait...

The "average" QB throws 11 TDs and no INTs in four playoff games...oh wait...

The "average" QB earns a Super Bowl MVP...oh wait....

:thinking: I'd like to have an "average" QB in a Texans uniform...

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 11:10 AM
No doubt.

Yeah, the "average" QB has 6 wins in road playoff games...oh wait...

The "average" QB throws 11 TDs and no INTs in four playoff games...oh wait...

The "average" QB earns a Super Bowl MVP...oh wait....

:thinking: I'd like to have an "average" QB in a Texans uniform...

•Flacco's nine playoff victories are tied with Tom Brady for the most ever by a quarterback in his first five seasons. Flacco also has the same number of postseason victories as Peyton Manning -- which is significant considering Flacco has played nine fewer seasons.

•Flacco has won 63 games, including the regular season and playoffs, since 2008. That's six more than anyone else during that same span, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers are the closest to Flacco with 57 victories. Brees is third with 56.

•Flacco enjoyed a postseason for the ages. His 11 touchdowns tied the NFL record for most in a postseason. Joe Montana is the only other player in NFL history with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions in a postseason.

•His Total QBR of 95.1 was seven points higher than any other Super Bowl performance in the Total QBR era (since 2008). His rating topped those of Brees, Brady, Rodgers and both Manning brothers.

•Flacco completed 40 passes of at least 25 yards in the regular season. Only Brees (47) threw more than Flacco.

•Among quarterbacks with 500 pass attempts in 2012, Flacco had the third-fewest interceptions with 10. That ranks behind Brady and Rodgers, who had eight each. Flacco didn't throw an interception in his last 195 passes, a streak that spans seven games.

•Flacco has never missed a start in his five-year NFL career, a streak of 80 consecutive games. Only Eli Manning (135 games) and Philip Rivers (112) have longer streaks than Flacco.

•Flacco is the first quarterback in NFL history to win a playoff game in each of his first five seasons. He also has six career road playoff wins, which is the most in NFL postseason history (Eli Manning has five).

•Flacco has 15 game-winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime. Four of them have come this season, including the AFC divisional playoff game in Denver. That's one fewer than Ben Roethlisberger during that same span.

Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 01:30 PM
•Flacco's nine playoff victories are tied with Tom Brady for the most ever by a quarterback in his first five seasons. Flacco also has the same number of postseason victories as Peyton Manning -- which is significant considering Flacco has played nine fewer seasons. :popcorn:

1. Tying isn't being undisputed.
2. In Brady's first five years he'd been to and WON three of these :trophy:

•Flacco has won 63 games, including the regular season and playoffs, since 2008. That's six more than anyone else during that same span, according to ESPN Stats & Information. Matt Ryan and Aaron Rodgers are the closest to Flacco with 57 victories. Brees is third with 56.

:thinking: Then he should have had a Superbowl ring for each year he's been in the NFL? Why doesn't he?

•Flacco enjoyed a postseason for the ages. His 11 touchdowns tied the NFL record for most in a postseason. Joe Montana is the only other player in NFL history with 11 touchdowns and no interceptions in a postseason.

Tying again isn't winning. Because we all know that the number "5" looks JUST like the number "16". Also when Montana played you could still knock the piss out of a QB. Joe Montana also has FOUR Superbowl rings. Let defenses play the same way they did in the 80s/90s and Brady and Manning wouldn't have such impressive stats and your boy Flacco definitely wouldn't.

•His Total QBR of 95.1 was seven points higher than any other Super Bowl performance in the Total QBR era (since 2008). His rating topped those of Brees, Brady, Rodgers and both Manning brothers.

(gasp) You mean...there were performances which proved to be BETTER!? HERESEY!

•Flacco completed 40 passes of at least 25 yards in the regular season. Only Brees (47) threw more than Flacco.

Not saying a thing...but last I checked 47 > 40. My math isn't that great, I'm pretty sure that's right.

•Flacco has 15 game-winning drives in the fourth quarter or overtime. Four of them have come this season, including the AFC divisional playoff game in Denver. That's one fewer than Ben Roethlisberger during that same span.

I'm sorry. I didn't catch that? One fewer than WHO? I didn't get that name.

tee hee

Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 01:39 PM
I see the thread about him being average. I'd rather have Flacco "wins playoff games and a Super Bowl" average than Schaub's brand of average any day of the week. Mario Williams gets paid $20M a year too so why shouldn't Flacco?

I'd rather have a scarecrow behind center than Schaub at least it would be more mobile.

Q: What's the difference between Matt Schaub and an eight year old girl?

A: The eight year old girl has an EXCUSE to throw like an eight year old girl and probably would do a better job getting outside the pocket when she had to.

HoustonFrog
02-08-2013, 01:55 PM
Again, taking 5 seconds to think about it, if tackling from the sideline could give a competative advantage, like possibly getting a penalty and forcing them to kick or drive the ball, don't you think teams would have taken advantage of it by now??

Teams most likely have thought about it...like holding in the end zone knowing its a safety no matter what. My point being that what's the harm? Refs are idiots about their own rules sometimes. I'm sure half the players don't know them. They were about to win a SB. If he's not joking and does it, what will it harm besides him being a goof. It just puts it in the refs hands. Honestly, I doubt any player would ever do it. But at the time I don't think it was stupid for a player to be running every scenario through his head.

BullNation4Life
02-08-2013, 02:01 PM
Again, taking 5 seconds to think about it, if tackling from the sideline could give a competative advantage, like possibly getting a penalty and forcing them to kick or drive the ball, don't you think teams would have taken advantage of it by now??

Take 5 seconds and think about how many times, in NFL history has a Super Bowl been on the line and this "scenario" has presented itself to "take advantage" of, as you say...

A: Flacco was more than likely joking about the statement....*poof* Here is a Mountain made from a mole hill....

B: There is no difference in what Flacco was taking about and the Ravens offensive line purposely holding the SF players, on the goal line, so that the punter could run around the endzone to kill the clock, because had holding been called, guess what, it's still a safety...

You play to win the game, and if it means taking the rules to their limits, while still being under the rules, where is the harm and foul?

Thorn
02-08-2013, 02:09 PM
Wow. The stupid Ravens won the super bowl, let's get over it, OK?

infantrycak
02-08-2013, 02:10 PM
You play to win the game, and if it means taking the rules to their limits, while still being under the rules, where is the harm and foul?

I don't understand the logic to this argument. That is equivalent to saying if you are willing to do life in prison murder is OK. Hand play between DB's nad WR's is pushing the rules. Advocating a 12th player come off the sideline is not pushing the rules to their limits.

I am not calling Flacco a jerk over this but it shouldn't have been said.

BullNation4Life
02-08-2013, 02:17 PM
I don't understand the logic to this argument. That is equivalent to saying if you are willing to do life in prison murder is OK. Hand play between DB's nad WR's is pushing the rules. Advocating a 12th player come off the sideline is not pushing the rules to their limits.

I am not calling Flacco a jerk over this but it shouldn't have been said.

Maybe, but in what blue hell is murder even remotely equivalent or in the same ball park to stretching a rule in a sporting event? Seriously?

That, my friend, was a bad example

but again this whole thread is simply

http://sarah.theworkexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/mountain-or-molehill-350x280.jpg

infantrycak
02-08-2013, 02:33 PM
Logic can be debated regardless the size of the hill.

CretorFrigg
02-08-2013, 03:08 PM
We all say things we don't mean, especially when we're hyped up and/or trying to hype up our team. When I played ball, I used to tell our linebackers to "rip his head off." Thank god there were no mics around me then. It's just a way to tell the team they NEED to make that tackle.

I doubt Flacco literally wants players to run off the bench and tackle the returner. He's just emphasizing how crucial it is to stop them.

Señor Stan
02-08-2013, 03:15 PM
He is the anti-cushing...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=tTNc-CNZ9zc#t=16s

handswarmer
02-08-2013, 03:34 PM
:popcorn:

1. Tying isn't being undisputed.
2. In Brady's first five years he'd been to and WON three of these :trophy:



:thinking: Then he should have had a Superbowl ring for each year he's been in the NFL? Why doesn't he?



Tying again isn't winning. Because we all know that the number "5" looks JUST like the number "16". Also when Montana played you could still knock the piss out of a QB. Joe Montana also has FOUR Superbowl rings. Let defenses play the same way they did in the 80s/90s and Brady and Manning wouldn't have such impressive stats and your boy Flacco definitely wouldn't.



(gasp) You mean...there were performances which proved to be BETTER!? HERESEY!



Not saying a thing...but last I checked 47 > 40. My math isn't that great, I'm pretty sure that's right.



I'm sorry. I didn't catch that? One fewer than WHO? I didn't get that name.

tee hee

Obviously reading comprehension is a strength with you

bOODRO87
02-08-2013, 05:11 PM
Wow. The stupid Ravens won the super bowl, let's get over it, OK?

This. Flacco stepped his game up when it mattered. Kubiak and Schaub didn't. Texans take an early exit. Ravens win the SB.

Soak up your tears, fellas. This is like female nagging.

ObsiWan
02-08-2013, 06:09 PM
Has anybody paused for just a single second....and thought to themselves "Maybe he was joking..."?


Lawd...
what is the world coming to,
no one moved off the bench so why is this worthy of repeating, much less discussion...

and what's worse, you people have me agreeing GP!
:toropalm:

...I hate the off-season

Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 09:39 PM
Obviously reading comprehension is a strength with you

This guy is fun. If you lived here I'd buy you a beer. I'll miss you during my hiatus. Don't give Bill ha hard time. Many of us are living vicariously through him.

Dread-Head
02-08-2013, 09:40 PM
I have a sudden urge to eat popcorn .... to eat watermelon ... and to eat ....

:thinking: A redhead with a killer set of warheads? I'm always hungry for those.

handswarmer
02-09-2013, 09:43 AM
This guy is fun. If you lived here I'd buy you a beer. I'll miss you during my hiatus. Don't give Bill ha hard time. Many of us are living vicariously through him.

Unlike the SuperDome, we'll leave the light on for ya!

PS- I like beer, especially free beer.:user: