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Playoffs
02-03-2013, 11:11 AM
Congratulations to the seven nominees voted into the Hall of Fame for 2013.

Larry Allen
Jonathan Ogden
Bill Parcells
Cris Carter
Warren Sapp

Senior nominees:
Curly Culp
Dave Robinson


I was especially happy for Cris Carter to finally get his due -- and he was humbled,

"This is the happiest day of my life."

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4th in career receptions, 9th in yards, 4th in TDs ..... should not have taken 6 years, imo.

Playoffs
02-03-2013, 12:38 PM
Bill Parcells, the "Big Tuna", had a 183-138-1 record as a coach with the Giants, the Patriots, the Jets and the Cowboys taking each into the playoffs. Parcells won 2 Super Bowls with the Giants and lost one with the Patriots. He was voted Coach of the Year in 1986 & 1994.

Parcells was most known for his mild-mannered, easy going personality.

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Lucky
02-03-2013, 02:49 PM
I was especially happy for Cris Carter to finally get his due -- and he was humbled,

4th in career receptions, 9th in yards, 4th in TDs ..... should not have taken 6 years, imo.
But like Carter said himself, not one player voted in ahead of him was undeserving. The limits on 5 players voted in per year can create a backlog.

IDEXAN
02-03-2013, 05:07 PM
I didn't realize that Carter finally made it - he was a great NFL WR, he's deserving, and congrats to him.

Playoffs
02-03-2013, 05:47 PM
Larry Allen.
“You can’t pack enough lunch and hard hats to go with you for four quarters,” Warren Sapp said after taking the stage with Larry Allen.“This guy scared people,” HOF inductee Jonathan Ogden said of Allen. “I don’t know if I scared people on the field. I mean, they weren’t going to get by me, and I intimidated them.

“But I’ve seen 3-techniques [defensive linemen] physically develop cramps because they didn’t want this guy on them.”http://cdn0.sbnation.com/legacy_images/bloggingtheboys/images/admin/LA.jpg
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Teams: 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers. … 14 seasons, 203 games.

Highlights: First-year eligible. … Selected by Cowboys in second round (46th player overall) of 1994 draft. … Versatile, played every position on offensive line except center during 12 seasons with Dallas. … Led way in second season for Emmitt Smith who set Cowboys’ franchise record with 1,773 yards. … Started at right guard in two NFC Championship Games and the 1996 Super Bowl. … Named first-team All-Pro seven straight years. … First-team All-NFC six times, second-team once. … Moved to tackle late in 1997 and entire 1998 season, earned All-Pro honors at position. … First season with 49ers led way for Frank Gore who set team single-season rushing record (1,695 yards). … Elected to 11 Pro Bowls. … Named to NFL All-Decade Teams of 1990s and 2000s.

thunderkyss
02-03-2013, 06:27 PM
I was especially happy for Cris Carter to finally get his due -- and he was humbled,

"This is the happiest day of my life."

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4th in career receptions, 9th in yards, 4th in TDs ..... should not have taken 6 years, imo.

If Cris Carter can get in, Andre is a shoe in.

Playoffs
02-03-2013, 07:10 PM
If Cris Carter can get in, Andre is a shoe in.

Cris Carter .....1,101 receptions
Andre Johnson ...818

Cris Carter .....13,899 yards
Andre Johnson 11,254

Cris Carter .....130 touchdowns
Andre Johnson ,56

Andre Johnson 81.6 yards per game
Cris Carter .....59.4

infantrycak
02-03-2013, 08:08 PM
1st ten seasons:

Cris Carter .....667 receptions
Andre Johnson ...818

Cris Carter .....8,367 yards
Andre Johnson 11,254

Cris Carter .....76 touchdowns
Andre Johnson ,56

Andre Johnson 81.6 yards per game
Cris Carter .....56.1

Andre Johnson 6 pro-bowls, 2 all pro (plus 2 2nd team all pro)
Cris Carter 4 pro-bowls, 1 all pro (plus 1 2nd team all pro)

AJ has played in 11 less games.

Maybe we should see what the numbers look like after another six seasons.

Playoffs
02-03-2013, 08:21 PM
Maybe we should see what the numbers look like after another six seasons.
Fingers crossed we get 6 more out of A.J. http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/fingerscrossed.gif

infantrycak
02-03-2013, 08:39 PM
Fingers crossed we get 6 more out of A.J. http://www.smileyvault.com/albums/userpics/10404/fingerscrossed.gif

Sure fingers crossed. But just for perspective, if AJ produced like Cris Carter (which would be a giant step down) for the next 6 seasons he would be #2 on the receiving yards list by almost 1000 yds. If he gets one more 1500 yd season he will be tied with GOAT Rice as the only WR's to have done so 4 times (and Rice had two scinchers (one by 2 yards and one by 3) which isn't true of AJ).

Dread-Head
02-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Chris Carter and Bill Parcells I agree with. Warren Sapp (and feel free to quote me on this one): "...Meh."

Luv_ya_blue
02-04-2013, 04:15 PM
Chris Carter and Bill Parcells I agree with. Warren Sapp (and feel free to quote me on this one): "...Meh."

I pretty much thought the same thing.

Dread-Head
02-04-2013, 04:17 PM
I pretty much thought the same thing.

He was on that Tampa Bay team built by Dungee that went to the Superbowl with Gruden "in charge" and had a few games versus Dog-boy (Michael Vick) where he utterly embarrassed the man, but on the whole he was GOOD but not GREAT.

Vinny
02-04-2013, 04:18 PM
Sapp was pretty much unblockable at the 3 technique...worthy candidate to me.

Dread-Head
02-04-2013, 04:21 PM
Sapp was pretty much unblockable at the 3 technique...worthy candidate to me.

Because Simeon Rice was on the other side of the NT. By himself...meh.

Vinny
02-04-2013, 04:29 PM
Because Simeon Rice was on the other side of the NT. By himself...meh.Rice was a DE. He went to 3 Pro Bowls. Sapp went to 7. Sapp had nearly as many sacks as Rice but was an interior player as Rice was an edge rusher. Sapp is the Bucs career sack leader...not Rice.

infantrycak
02-04-2013, 05:05 PM
Rice was a DE. He went to 3 Pro Bowls. Sapp went to 7. Sapp had nearly as many sacks as Rice but was an interior player as Rice was an edge rusher. Sapp is the Bucs career sack leader...not Rice.

I agree Sapp deserves it. But I think Charles Haley does as well so what do I know.

Vinny
02-04-2013, 05:09 PM
I agree Sapp deserves it. But I think Charles Haley does as well so what do I know.Haley should be a no-brainer pick...but I think the sportswriters conspire to keep him out since he was a jerk to them....and a bit of a weirdo. Scary weirdo. I agree that Haley not being in the HOF is a joke.

thunderkyss
02-04-2013, 06:29 PM
Rice was a DE. He went to 3 Pro Bowls. Sapp went to 7. Sapp had nearly as many sacks as Rice but was an interior player as Rice was an edge rusher. Sapp is the Bucs career sack leader...not Rice.

Who was the Bucs NT? Booger McFarland?

Then Rice went to Arizona right? Where he played DT?

Sorry..... got it all wrong, just checked on wiki.

He was drafted by the Cardinals, then went to Tampa. Too small to play DT, don't know why I thought he was an interior player.

TexanSam
02-04-2013, 06:58 PM
I found this stat pretty amazing.

What I really appreciated about Ogden was his, for lack of a better phrase, clean play. He had 13 false starts in his career and 13 holding penalties.
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toronto
02-04-2013, 08:24 PM
I always felt Derrick Brooks and Ronde Barber were the best players on that defense. Never ever felt Sapp was a hall of famer. I never felt strongly that Cris Carter was either. Ys he had good stats, but never elevated his team IMO. He did give Chris Berman and Tom Jackson a hell of a schtick.