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Jules Winnfield
01-08-2013, 02:56 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQsycH47aXE


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Discuss....

Yankee_In_TX
01-08-2013, 02:57 PM
video fail

Let me guess, Skip hated on Houston?

Jules Winnfield
01-08-2013, 02:59 PM
video fail

Let me guess, Skip hated on Houston?

you cant post youtube vids on here?

skip was actually said it would be a close game while stephen a agreed 100% with the article and crushed matt schaub.

Playoffs
01-08-2013, 03:05 PM
Who cares what the reality TV fools think?

BigB0iFresh
01-08-2013, 03:05 PM
First Take has gone down the drain. SAS yelling and Skip saying stuff for shock value

Carr Bombed
01-08-2013, 03:12 PM
Can somebody post what they actually said, because I can't play youtube vids right now?

Thorn
01-08-2013, 03:13 PM
So what? What the fools at ESPN or NFLN say, or what we say here, doesn't matter except to the person saying it. They players will play the game in the mood they are in despite what is said about them before hand.

silentassassin
01-08-2013, 03:16 PM
I hope no one here actually takes that show seriously.

Scooter
01-08-2013, 03:16 PM
people actually watch that show?

Carr Bombed
01-08-2013, 03:18 PM
First Take has gone down the drain. SAS yelling and Skip saying stuff for shock value

Yep, Skip officially jumped the shark with his "I would've left RGIII in the game, because he needs to learn how to play injured" argument. It was by far one of the dumbest things I ever heard anyone say on TV and I'm not just talking about sports either. He needs to go sit in the corner with Rob Parker.

Jules Winnfield
01-08-2013, 03:23 PM
So what? What the fools at ESPN or NFLN say, or what we say here, doesn't matter except to the person saying it. They players will play the game in the mood they are in despite what is said about them before hand.

if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

BetaV1
01-08-2013, 03:24 PM
What's amazing is that it feels like a vast majority of this forum also would agree with Skip and Stephen, as well as this fish wrap writer up in Boston.

Keep talking. Anyone who has ever played football will tell you the Texans want to play this game right now if they could. Sunday can't come soon enough for these guys.

Thorn
01-08-2013, 03:31 PM
if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

Well then you can call me naive, because I don't watch ESPN at all except when the Texans play on Monday night football. If the Texans didn't have the bad luck of being scheduled for those ridiculous nights my TV would never be on ESPN.

ChampionTexan
01-08-2013, 03:56 PM
if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

I stand in awe of your brilliance Mr. Winnfield (the bolded sentence on it's own has convinced me that everything you say is spot-on).

Double Barrel
01-08-2013, 04:04 PM
Can somebody post what they actually said, because I can't play youtube vids right now?

I can't post the video, but I did take a screenshot of it:

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/funny-asshat-dog-sitting-cats-head-pics.jpg

C Madd
01-08-2013, 04:33 PM
I can't post the video, but I did take a screenshot of it:

http://funnyasduck.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/funny-asshat-dog-sitting-cats-head-pics.jpg

That's a good picture of Skip Bayless.

Surreal McCoy
01-08-2013, 04:42 PM
I stand in awe of your brilliance Mr. Winnfield (the bolded sentence on it's own has convinced me that everything you say is spot-on).

It's not even a sentence fragment. It's...hmm...maybe it'll make more sense if I'm drunk. Really drunk :)

Tailgate
01-08-2013, 06:40 PM
I kinda wish Foster would have just left this one alone.

Jules Winnfield
01-08-2013, 06:44 PM
I kinda wish Foster would have just left this one alone.

but thorn said it doesnt matter.....

:shades:

In today's internet/social media era, trivial, petty, tripe stuff matters.

Especially to today's athletes.

MEGA SWATT
01-09-2013, 12:57 AM
Pretty cool on Foster's part.

thx op.

Textan
01-09-2013, 01:14 AM
Basically, they believe the Texans are the Junior High B string wanna bees, while the Pats are a proven class act.
Schaub stinks. Brady sh1ts gold nuggets, and BB talks to God.
Seriously, what they said was pretty much true in regards to the Texans last showing in Foxborough.
They also made fun of the Letterman jacket deal and the fact that it was the Texans biggest game ever, when it was just another game to the Patriots.
Man, I'm really starting to hate the Pats, almost as bad as I once hated the Colts.

ObsiWan
01-09-2013, 01:48 AM
if people didnt care they wouldnt be on TV.

fact of the matter is, Firsttake is a very popular nationally televised sports opinion show despite how many people claim they hate this show or how much people try to trivialize the show.

NFL players despite how freakishly huge they are, still are humans and they watch and listen to everything that is said about them.

to pretend otherwise is just naive.

They play sports for a living FFS. If regular people watch that show, how much more people who are talked about and play sports for a living?

They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.

fiasco west
01-09-2013, 02:33 AM
As someone that does usually catch the show.

SAS is the guy a bit bitter and jilted. He actually was on the bandwagon of the Texans but was disappointed with them after the Patriot game.

I don't think they said anything too outrageous. Texans will be the Pats little _____ until proven otherwise. I think they'll prove otherwise on Sunday.

Dread-Head
01-09-2013, 02:51 AM
1. N.E's FIRST possession of the game run into Brady at full speed and ring his bell even if he HAS thrown the ball already. If you see Brady's back up warming up...YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB!

2. accept the fact that in this game you will sacrifice a game check...and not GIVE A I$HT!

3. Hit muff-huggas so hard they p:ss blood for a week and watch the Superbowl from home still applying ice packs.

4. With each possession remember that the Pats, refs and MEDIA think they're in for a cake walk...let it be known that "CAKE" has been in a deep freeze since the last game and go upside their heads with it.


5. This isn't a "prize fight" it's a street fight. Let the refs and league 3itch at you about how "unsportsmanlike" you were and how "dirty" you played and the fines to be levied against you as they're discussing how "Sad" it is that Brady and the Pats won't go to the AFC title game.

6. PLAY 4 quarters of solid smash mouth football and pound your opponent into a fine paste...then grind that paste beneath your heel after you take a whiz in it.

Textan
01-09-2013, 02:56 AM
You forget who their coach is. In all the years I've seen Kubiak coach I've never seen him step on the throat of any opponent. Maybe there's been a few, but I don't remember them?

fiasco west
01-09-2013, 04:39 AM
They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.

Yep. Stephen A actually gets things right on NBA more times than not.

With that said I always take any of the ESPN journalists (the ones that were not ex-players) as personalities and just guys that have their own opinion on things.

Also, the one thing I like about Stephen A AND Skip is that if they have an athlete on the show they will not shy away from asking those guys anything. Stephen A always does great interviews, I remember on his show he always got some really personal stuff out of them.

Their on-screen personalities and over-exaggerated opinions can be annoying.

qqert
01-09-2013, 05:37 AM
you people still have cable?
and how much do you pay per month to view all that trash?

cut the cord, you wont miss it i promise.

:texflag::texflag::texflag:

HJam72
01-09-2013, 08:35 AM
They say that Foster's performance will make the biggest difference, but, according to them, Foster did well the first time anyway. I say we'd get further against the Pats if our safeties keep their heads on straight and Schaub has a better game against their secondary.

thunderkyss
01-09-2013, 10:44 AM
They also made fun of the fact that it was the Texans biggest game ever, when it was just another game to the Patriots.

As much as we hate it, this is truth. There are still a lot of "firsts" that we haven't done yet. There's still a lot of "biggest games in Texans' history" out there.

The guys are wearing a number 10 on their jerseys for a reason.

If we win a Super Bowl, we'll be the first expansion team to win one in this era. Going back to Jacksonville, Carolina, & Cleveland.

Until we win that Super Bowl, we're the young punks of the league. After, we'll be the punks that whipped that a55.

Surreal McCoy
01-09-2013, 11:59 AM
As much as we hate it, this is truth. There are still a lot of "firsts" that we haven't done yet. There's still a lot of "biggest games in Texans' history" out there.

The guys are wearing a number 10 on their jerseys for a reason.

If we win a Super Bowl, we'll be the first expansion team to win one in this era. Going back to Jacksonville, Carolina, & Cleveland.

Until we win that Super Bowl, we're the young punks of the league. After, we'll be the punks that whipped that a55.

Not to mention the expansion rules were made specifically harder for Houston as a result of those teams' initial success.

Thorn
01-09-2013, 12:41 PM
but thorn said it doesnt matter.....


Even Thorn doesn't give a **** what Thorn says. :lol:

mridge01
01-09-2013, 01:42 PM
Mangini makes a really good point in the video.

thunderkyss
01-09-2013, 01:43 PM
Not to mention the expansion rules were made specifically harder for Houston as a result of those teams' initial success.

We were expanded under the same rules as Cleveland I think. But if you look at that organization & you look at our organization, I think it's clear that we are on the right track.

paycheck71
01-09-2013, 01:47 PM
Haven't read anything in this thread, just saw the title and was wondering why anyone would watch those two hacks and give them any time.

DRP
01-09-2013, 04:01 PM
ESPN will always be on the Patriots jock.

Dread-Head
01-09-2013, 04:06 PM
Even Thorn doesn't give a **** what Thorn says. :lol:

:bat: What did Dread-Head tell you about speaking in third person?

ObsiWan
01-09-2013, 04:33 PM
you people still have cable?
and how much do you pay per month to view all that trash?

cut the cord, you wont miss it i promise.

:texflag::texflag::texflag:

I have Dish. And as a certifiable Geek, I need my Science Channel and History Channel.

Jules Winnfield
01-09-2013, 04:38 PM
They're on TV because they get a good paycheck out of it.
Stephen A. is out of his element unless he's talking about the NBA. He pretty much stays on top of basketball and lots of contacts in that area. Football, not so much. And Skip Bayless is there pretty much to "stir the pot". He generally takes whatever stance causes the most controversy. If you're going to listen to anyone on ESPN, listen to Jaws. At least he breaks down film and has played the position.

First Take is fluff.

Edit: Skip and Stephen A. were just making noise but Mangini made sense....
Eric Mangini basically said that the Shaunessy article shouldn't be necessary to provide incentive for the players. Everyone knows it's win or go home during the playoffs so they don't need bulletin board material for "inspiration". He also said, Foster needs to have a good game because an effective running attack will keep Tom Brady on the sidelines. Lastly, Mangini said that Belichick will remind his troops of how the Jets knocked them out of the playoffs a couple of years ago although the Pats had beaten them, in Foxboroigh, 45-zip earlier in that season. So don't get cocky and overconfident and take the Texans lightly.

First Take is still fluff though.
Although the host was a cutie.


its not that hard to talk abouut sports. but considering stephen a smith gets paid a couple of mill to talk sports, id say he is doing very well for a guy out of his "element."

I dont care how much you people want to trivialize First Take and claim how much you hate and how much skip and sas suck, they make for great entertaining discussion and they get paid handsomely to do it for a reason and why you dont.

Mailman
01-09-2013, 04:42 PM
Haven't read anything in this thread, just saw the title and was wondering why anyone would watch those two hacks and give them any time.

Palabra. Verdad. This.

Mailman
01-09-2013, 04:44 PM
its not that hard to talk abouut sports. but considering stephen a smith gets paid a couple of mill to talk sports, id say he is doing very well for a guy out of his "element."

I dont care how much you people want to trivialize First Take and claim how much you hate and how much skip and sas suck, they make for great entertaining discussion and they get paid handsomely to do it for a reason and why you dont.

You, sir, are a sucker for watching and defending that garbage. These guys are a dime a dozen and their opinions are not insightful in any way. They vacillate between trotting out conventional wisdom on whatever the topic du jour happens to be and being paid TV trolls.

DON'T FEED THE TROLLS.

ObsiWan
01-09-2013, 05:15 PM
its not that hard to talk abouut sports. but considering stephen a smith gets paid a couple of mill to talk sports, id say he is doing very well for a guy out of his "element."

I dont care how much you people want to trivialize First Take and claim how much you hate and how much skip and sas suck, they make for great entertaining discussion and they get paid handsomely to do it for a reason and why you dont.
Some folks are into that drama-fest type "reporting". If you're into yelling and screaming between Skip & Stephen A., more power to you.
I am not.
And I gave Stephen A. his props regarding his NBA reporting, when it comes to that, he's among the best. And I like his insights from the African American perspective. He doesn't shy away from those kinds of issues. Oh and the only up-to-date info I could find on his salary (http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-athletes/stephen-smith-net-worth/) sets it at $400K/yr. Definitely not too shabby but not "a couple of mil..." that you threw out. But since he's not tossing any cash my way, it matters not to me what he makes. :D

Anyway, my point was when I want football analysis I tend to listen to the guys that played and coached in the league. They speak from experience, not speculation.

Oh and, by the way, thanks for the link, I enjoyed Mangini's take on the situation.

Modest
01-09-2013, 06:51 PM
Regardless of the outcome of the Pats Texans matchup, I would love nothing more than to see Arian Foster run full speed and hit Dan Shaughnessy with such force that he was instantly atomized.



All of sports media would thank him.

qqert
01-09-2013, 07:14 PM
I have Dish. And as a certifiable Geek, I need my Science Channel and History Channel.

i hear ya. i miss shark week on discovery channel, and bear grylls, and dual survival, etc.
i mostly stick to PBS NOVA, Nature, Frontline and POV now.. for everything else, theres youtube or internet streaming elsewhere.

the extra $$ i save i spend on STEAK every week!

gary
01-09-2013, 07:20 PM
It is not that opinions do not matter but they are not always fact.

PatsFanatic
01-09-2013, 09:13 PM
1. N.E's FIRST possession of the game run into Brady at full speed and ring his bell even if he HAS thrown the ball already. If you see Brady's back up warming up...YOU'RE DOING YOUR JOB!

2. accept the fact that in this game you will sacrifice a game check...and not GIVE A I$HT!

3. Hit muff-huggas so hard they p:ss blood for a week and watch the Superbowl from home still applying ice packs.

4. With each possession remember that the Pats, refs and MEDIA think they're in for a cake walk...let it be known that "CAKE" has been in a deep freeze since the last game and go upside their heads with it.


5. This isn't a "prize fight" it's a street fight. Let the refs and league 3itch at you about how "unsportsmanlike" you were and how "dirty" you played and the fines to be levied against you as they're discussing how "Sad" it is that Brady and the Pats won't go to the AFC title game.

6. PLAY 4 quarters of solid smash mouth football and pound your opponent into a fine paste...then grind that paste beneath your heel after you take a whiz in it.


Wait. So the plan should be, injure all the Pats best players so the Texans will then be better than them and you'll then feel great about how good your team is?

Really? Are you an adult or a grown up 15yo?

infantrycak
01-09-2013, 09:29 PM
Wait. So the plan should be, injure all the Pats best players so the Texans will then be better than them and you'll then feel great about how good your team is?

Really? Are you an adult or a grown up 15yo?

You can't tell when someone is joking?