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JCTexan
01-06-2013, 11:28 AM
Should be some good football today. Start it off with the Colts & Ravens. The Colts will be without offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who was sent to the hospital with flu-like symptoms.

SheTexan
01-06-2013, 11:33 AM
Go Ravens!!!!!!

JCTexan
01-06-2013, 11:51 AM
Go Ravens!!!!!!

Not that it bothers me if Baltimore wins but I would prefer a Colts-Broncos divisional matchup.

Showtime100
01-06-2013, 11:55 AM
Do the Ravens own CBS?

Playoffs
01-06-2013, 12:09 PM
Pulling for & looking forward to watching the rooks: RGIII & Luck.

Pollardized
01-06-2013, 12:14 PM
Do the Ravens own CBS?

Not sure, but I bet they own the dolts today.

Showtime100
01-06-2013, 12:14 PM
If I never hear the name Ray Lewis again it'll be too soon. The guy is a HOFer, yet still is overrated. Maybe overcovered is a better word, dunno. Nope, both words will do.

gafftop
01-06-2013, 12:22 PM
Go Ravens. I think the Ravens have the better chance of beating Denver.

I want the AFC championship in Houston!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thorn
01-06-2013, 12:35 PM
I'm pulling for the Seahawks today. The Seahawks and the 49ers have always been my two NFC teams I pull for, but for some reason I'm liking the Seahawks more this season. No reason really, I don't think they'll do much in the playoffs, but hey, you never know.

I've even registered an account on a Seahawks board and made two posts there already. LOL

BullBlitz
01-06-2013, 12:35 PM
Go Colts!

Thorn
01-06-2013, 12:38 PM
I hate to even admit this in public, but I kind of hope the Colts win today. It would make an interesting match up in Denver. Other than that, I don't really give a **** who wins that game.

Seņor Stan
01-06-2013, 12:43 PM
Wow. 0-0...both teams need new QBs...AMIRITE?!?!

TexanSam
01-06-2013, 12:43 PM
Pulling for the Ravens and Seahawks today. I'm already tired of the media slobbering over Luck.

GlassHalfFull
01-06-2013, 01:02 PM
The colt center head bob is pretty dramatic..

JCTexan
01-06-2013, 02:06 PM
Why wasn't Bolden flagged for spiking the ball on that long pass play?

TD Ravens. 17-6 in the 3rd.

Mr teX
01-06-2013, 02:13 PM
Luck is getting absolutely destroyed b/c his oline is terrible....kinda feel bad for the kid...he stepped into a hornets nest

76Texan
01-06-2013, 02:18 PM
Luck is still overrated and overhyped.

He still has some luck though.

Two shoulda-been INT, one near Int, one fumble lost, one near-lost fumble, and an Intentional Grounding.

If that was Schaub, this MB would have called for his head despite some of the plays he made.
They would even called him out for all the sacks he "took", too.

But since it is Luck, everything works in reverse.

They won't even complain about the FGs, LOL.

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 02:19 PM
colts settling for fg's :kitten:

ziggy29
01-06-2013, 02:21 PM
colts settling for fg's :kitten:

Looks familiar.

Mr teX
01-06-2013, 02:23 PM
Tons of underthrows and inaccurate throws by both qb's too :kitten:

TexanSam
01-06-2013, 02:28 PM
Ray Rice has fumbled twice today, both on potential scoring drives.

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 02:40 PM
that's game.

Mr teX
01-06-2013, 02:44 PM
Yet another underthrow by the strong armed Flacco...Boldin's making great plays in the air on the ball for him...

thunderkyss
01-06-2013, 02:58 PM
Yet another underthrow by the strong armed Flacco...Boldin's making great plays in the air on the ball for him...

It's a team game. If they didn't have Boldin & Smith, it would be a problem. But since they've got Boldin & Smith.... not so much.

TexansLucky13
01-06-2013, 03:13 PM
If both the Ravens and Texans pull an upset next week, the AFC Championship game will be in Houston. Here's hoping that the Ravens fly high (and our squad too of course).

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 03:22 PM
getting back your defensive leader does wonders i guess.

holding the colts to 9 points is impressive.

Xcellerator
01-06-2013, 04:10 PM
RG3 with already 2 TD strikes! Even with a bad knee!

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 04:41 PM
wilson gettin very lucky.

dropped int and a fumble that could have been recovered by the skins

Lucky
01-06-2013, 06:02 PM
If both the Ravens and Texans pull an upset next week, the AFC Championship game will be in Houston. Here's hoping that the Ravens fly high (and our squad too of course).

You can probably get 8-1 in Vegas on that moneyline parlay.

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 06:04 PM
beastmode is back in the playoffs

Mr. Texan
01-06-2013, 06:08 PM
rg3 :(

JCTexan
01-06-2013, 06:10 PM
That looked bad... RG3 just went down. Hopefully he's alright.

gg no re
01-06-2013, 06:11 PM
they should've shut down RGIII at halftime. at the very least, it was obvious he wasn't right on the prior drive.

TexanSam
01-06-2013, 06:13 PM
Shanahan was too stubborn even though it was obvious RG3 wasn't himself. I hope Griffin learns to run less or else his career is going to be cut way short.

Mr teX
01-06-2013, 06:15 PM
Shanahan was too stubborn even though it was obvious RG3 wasn't himself. I hope Griffin learns to run less or else his career is going to be cut way short.

Isnt that the case for every running qb? All it takes is 1 hit...

TexanSam
01-06-2013, 06:20 PM
Isnt that the case for every running qb? All it takes is 1 hit...

It is. That's why any QB who runs needs to learn to be more of a pocket passer. Guys like Vick and RG3 are exciting but Vick gets hurt a lot and RG3 more than likely will too the way he plays.

BetaV1
01-06-2013, 06:21 PM
This is why I'm not high on the RGIII love. The dude sure is exciting to watch, but I honestly wouldn't want him as the quarterback of my team. Too many risks with his style of play and his overall build. The dude isn't a freak of nature ala Cam. I challenge anyone to watch Griffin's debut game against the Saints in week 1, then immediately go watch this game. You would think the dude has been playing in this league for years now with the way his body language has drastically changed as well as his injury report coming into the game.

This is just one year.

One year in a passing friendly league, where the NFL has done everything it possibly can to safeguard quarterbacks from being injured. There is almost no reason why any quarterback should be taking the beating he has. You can blame o-line issues, but this dude can have his career ended on any play with the way he operates more than any other reason. The kind of investment the Redskins made on a quarterback via draft picks is suppose to be for a player who will retire with that organisation after a fifteen year career, or at least close to it. Does anyone here honestly think Griffin's body is going to handle even half of that at this rate?

Mr teX
01-06-2013, 06:31 PM
It is. That's why any QB who runs needs to learn to be more of a pocket passer. Guys like Vick and RG3 are exciting but Vick gets hurt a lot and RG3 more than likely will too the way he plays.

Don't tell me, tell those who are enamored with these running qbs. I actually like wilson better. Dude runs but he knows when to get down...and how to get down....he's the only 1 of these young running qbs that know how to do that so far. All these others, including RG3 are believing their hype too much...thats the quickest way to get injured.

Hervoyel
01-06-2013, 06:34 PM
If I never hear the name Ray Lewis again it'll be too soon. The guy is a HOFer, yet still is overrated. Maybe overcovered is a better word, dunno. Nope, both words will do.

This is exactly how I feel. I'm frankly "Ray Lewis'd out". I'll be so happy when I never have to turn on the game again and watch him jumping around doing his chicken dance or whatever in the hell it is. Just enough already.

Showtime100
01-06-2013, 06:35 PM
Why wasn't Bolden flagged for spiking the ball on that long pass play?

TD Ravens. 17-6 in the 3rd.

I must have seen what you saw. I thinking at the time, though just a passing thought, was I guess since Brady's little ball-spiking temper tantrum they are squeamish about calling it on others(?). After thinking about it for a second I realized they root for Brady unabashedly and wouldn't care how it looks...lol.

eriadoc
01-06-2013, 07:14 PM
Luck is still overrated and overhyped.

He still has some luck though.

Two shoulda-been INT, one near Int, one fumble lost, one near-lost fumble, and an Intentional Grounding.

If that was Schaub, this MB would have called for his head despite some of the plays he made.
They would even called him out for all the sacks he "took", too.

But since it is Luck, everything works in reverse.

They won't even complain about the FGs, LOL.

Yeah, because this fan base has a history of crucifying rookie QBs. Riiiigghhtt ....

Matt Schaub has been in the league NINE years. He is what he is. I'm not even hating on him, but YOU brought that weak sauce Schaub crap into this thread. Luck has and will make many mistakes. He's a young QB. If he's still making those mistakes after four or five years, people will be labeling him a bust.

Wait, maybe I jumped on you too soon. You're suggesting that Schaub is playing like a rookie? OK, I can get with that. Hell, he plays like a promising rookie.

thunderkyss
01-06-2013, 07:57 PM
If he's still making those mistakes after four or five years, people will be labeling him a bust.


Are you saying that Schaub is a bust, or that he doesn't make "those" mistakes, or both?

Showtime100
01-06-2013, 08:00 PM
Are you saying that Schaub is a bust, or that he doesn't make "those" mistakes, or both?

He's a bust if a Super Bowl win is on your mind. Just my opinion. The crow will taste good if I'm wrong.

JCTexan
01-06-2013, 08:10 PM
I must have seen what you saw. I thinking at the time, though just a passing thought, was I guess since Brady's little ball-spiking temper tantrum they are squeamish about calling it on others(?). After thinking about it for a second I realized they root for Brady unabashedly and wouldn't care how it looks...lol.

Yeah, I thought at the time "wtf, I've seen that called before", only to see it not called two other times during the day. The Skins/hawks had at least 1 that should have been called. The only thing I know is if I see that **** called next week against Houston I'll be hot...

Kind of like I saw a defensive offsides (Oline reacted to it) called in the Ravens-Colts game. The same play got me hot last week when the Colts jumped offsides in the same fashion only for it to go against Houston. That kind of **** can piss me off. Same exact play, one goes against the defense; the other against the offense.

76Texan
01-06-2013, 10:11 PM
Yeah, because this fan base has a history of crucifying rookie QBs. Riiiigghhtt ....

Matt Schaub has been in the league NINE years. He is what he is. I'm not even hating on him, but YOU brought that weak sauce Schaub crap into this thread. Luck has and will make many mistakes. He's a young QB. If he's still making those mistakes after four or five years, people will be labeling him a bust.

Wait, maybe I jumped on you too soon. You're suggesting that Schaub is playing like a rookie? OK, I can get with that. Hell, he plays like a promising rookie.

Did you ever hear me jumping on Wilson? Nope!

What I had said even before the draft is that Luck is overrated and overhyped.
Because of that, people tend to give him more leash.

It make their comparison between Schaub and Luck (for this year, especially) more out of skelter. They think that the Texans can win it all with Luck this year!

76Texan
01-06-2013, 10:34 PM
He's a bust if a Super Bowl win is on your mind. Just my opinion. The crow will taste good if I'm wrong.

First off, Showtime, what do you think was the overall expectation before the season start?

It seems to range betwen 14-2 and 10-6 for a norm of around 12-4.
That should give the Texans a good chance to go deep into the play-offs if the team play even keel.

However, people didn't readjust for the loss of Cushing amongst a host of ofther injuries along the way.

Personally, I expected Wade Smith to have a better year, but he didn't, due to a nagging injury.

As of late (before the Bengals game), a couple of high-paying guys (Myers and Brown) were playing underpar - and poorly for the money the got paid for.

On the defensive side, JJo was under the weather for awhile; Antonio has not been 100% for quite awhile; and there's Brooks Reed.

Both O.D. and Graham have either been out or play hurt.
(and we need Graham for those outside zone runs - he's more important than one might think.)

If you look at the top ten on the pay scale and the additional key players, we have had a lot of injuries or health issues there.
(I think Wade Smith might be in the top ten paying guard in the league, too.)

These are the guys you count on to have a successful season.
The worst off they are, the worse off the rest of the team becomes.
We've been playing musical chair all over the place.

Schaub is a guy who needs to either stay in the pocket, or roll out in the bootleg.
Either way, we need blocking because we pay for it.
We don't pay Schaub as much, but we pay the other guys to do their jobs.

Each guy needs to perform up to pay scale (present and future.)

Showtime100
01-06-2013, 10:56 PM
I'm talking about Schaub and nothing but. Not about records, other players, Schaub. Bust.

76Texan
01-07-2013, 12:03 AM
I'm talking about Schaub and nothing but. Not about records, other players, Schaub. Bust.

Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about.

I think we at least have to have a basis to "measure" bust.

Let's say we go back for the last 10-15 years to check out all the QBs that have been drafted. Where Schaub was drafted, he is definitely a success as opposed to some 30-50 underachievers/bust.

Or you can go by comparative salary, which should have Schaub somewhere just above average. But his play has been better than average.

I don't see how you can call him a bust.
It's really beyond me.

Showtime100
01-07-2013, 12:11 AM
Sorry but I have no idea what you're talking about.

I think we at least have to have a basis to "measure" bust.

Let's say we go back for the last 10-15 years to check out all the QBs that have been drafted. Where Schaub was drafted, he is definitely a success as opposed to some 30-50 underachievers/bust.

Or you can go by comparative salary, which should have Schaub somewhere just above average. But his play has been better than average.

I don't see how you can call him a bust.
It's really beyond me.

Not--------what---------we-----thought--------he-------would--------be.

Feign ignorance all you want, but it's just an opinion you don't want to hear when you get down to it.

76Texan
01-07-2013, 12:56 AM
Not--------what---------we-----thought--------he-------would--------be.

Feign ignorance all you want, but it's just an opinion you don't want to hear when you get down to it.

But Schaub is exactly what I thought he's going to be.

I had no idea you had such high hope for him? Since when?

Showtime100
01-07-2013, 01:16 AM
But Schaub is exactly what I thought he's going to be.

I had no idea you had such high hope for him? Since when?

I thought he would be better than this. Great? No. Capable to lead a worthy team? Sure, why not.

Kudos to you and about 1000 other folks on this board who call it after the fact and take credit for it when it's safe.

(This whole 'I called it' thing among posters is getting old. Noobs, you're the worst about that)

thunderkyss
01-07-2013, 07:13 AM
First off, Showtime, what do you think was the overall expectation before the season start?

It seems to range betwen 14-2 and 10-6 for a norm of around 12-4.
That should give the Texans a good chance to go deep into the play-offs if the team play even keel.

However, people didn't readjust for the loss of Cushing amongst a host of ofther injuries along the way.


It doesn't matter. If we get to week 16 at 12-2 with the #1 seed on the line, it seems the Super Bowl is well withing reach, it doesn't make sense to ask fans not to set their sights on New Orleans. Especially when we "know" we have a coach who says that's his goal, one of the best WRs to ever play the game, the best goal line back in recent history, & a guy having one of the best seasons of a defensive lineman ever.

If you weren't thinking Super Bowl, that's on you.

However, that shows me that we've got a pretty good coaching staff in place to deal with all that & have us in that position. Maybe not good enough to seal the deal, but good enough to put us in position.

The weakest 11-1 team in history, if you think about it, says a whole lot about our coaches.

thunderkyss
01-07-2013, 07:47 AM
Not--------what---------we-----thought--------he-------would--------be.

Feign ignorance all you want, but it's just an opinion you don't want to hear when you get down to it.

Excuse me for butting into this conversation.

I'm not a Schaub fan, I've criticized him several times. I do not believe he is as good as the Schaub lovers would have you believe, however, I know he is not as bad as the Schaub haters would have us believe either.

I think he's far from an elite QB & he's far from a bust.

If you're of the thought that only an elite QB can get us to the Super Bowl, then you're not going to be happy with Matt Schaub. I get it.

Personally, I don't think you need an elite QB to win a Super Bowl. I do not think Eli Manning is elite, no matter how emphatically he differs.

Matt can & has played as well as Eli in the same short spurts that Eli has. I think Eli is tougher (I think Eli is the toughest QB I've seen play in a long time), but that's not really quantifiable. The Schaub lovers would definitely disagree but, whatever.