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Double Barrel
12-31-2012, 03:44 PM
I just heard this stat on the radio. Going back to the OT game at Detroit, the last 60 possessions by the Texans offense has only led to 7 touchdowns.

We clearly see that all phases of the team are performing below average. Special teams are not so special and needs an overhaul. Defense is missing it's heart with Cushing out and has been unable to scheme that absence or stop giving up big plays. JJ Watt is the only highlight on defense right now.

But, it's an "emperor has no clothes" situation here, because the offense is clearly where this team has been completely blown off course.

Our defense was special when the offense could put points up early in games and let them get blitz happy and protect a lead. When we had points early in games, we did not need special teams to do much except not give up turnovers.

From the coaching prep and play-calling, to the execution by players, there is something fundamentally off about this offense right now.

Can this 6 week slump reverse itself in a matter of days?

I'm not optimistic about it. I think this team peaked earlier in the season and we are witnessing a team in full meltdown right now.

:panic:

eriadoc
12-31-2012, 03:54 PM
There are only two people that touch the ball every single play on offense - Chris Myers and Matt Schaub.

Damn that Myers dude.

Double Barrel
12-31-2012, 03:58 PM
There are only two people that touch the ball every single play on offense - Chris Myers and Matt Schaub.

Damn that Myers dude.

Yep, the symbiotic relationship between head coach and QB can produce greatness (Walsh/Montana, Belichick/Brady, Landry/Staubach) or perpetual mediocrity (list way too long to mention).

The constants are the guy calling every offensive play and the guy taking every snap of every offensive play.

GP
12-31-2012, 03:58 PM
I have been saying for several weeks now that the two OT games drained us.

Those two comebacks, the OT battles too, it sapped us of our strength.

Whatever amount of mojo Kubiaub had, they spent all of it in those two OT games. Only the 1st Colts game (which was closer than the score suggests, due to TD off blocked punt) and the Titans game is what has kept us afloat.

The Pats, the Vikings, and the Colts were games where you could tell this Texans team was pleading for the opponent to help out...make their mistakes that would help us...basically our guys were having extra bye weeks.

I'm perfectly OK if we lose either vs Bengals or in the next round. I've seen all I need to see in order to know that Gary and Matt are tapped out. That pony keg is empty.

Say Watt
12-31-2012, 04:03 PM
To be quite honest, I thought it would be even less than that.

Double Barrel
12-31-2012, 04:07 PM
I have been saying for several weeks now that the two OT games drained us.

Those two comebacks, the OT battles too, it sapped us of our strength.

Whatever amount of mojo Kubiaub had, they spent all of it in those two OT games. Only the 1st Colts game (which was closer than the score suggests, due to TD off blocked punt) and the Titans game is what has kept us afloat.

The Pats, the Vikings, and the Colts were games where you could tell this Texans team was pleading for the opponent to help out...make their mistakes that would help us...basically our guys were having extra bye weeks.

I'm perfectly OK if we lose either vs Bengals or in the next round. I've seen all I need to see in order to know that Gary and Matt are tapped out. That pony keg is empty.

I'll be honest with you, four games this season really told me about the Texans.

Getting completely dominated by the Packers and Patriots revealed that this team was not even close to being elite.

And the two OT games, while exciting from an entertainment perspective, were indicative of a team that was having a hard time beating two teams with a collective 6 wins between them without some very lucky breaks.

The Bengals are on a mission. They will have vengeance on their minds.

The Texans, based on the past four games, look like they are happy with the best record in franchise history and another AFC South banner for the stadium. It's probably the last one we will see for awhile because the division will be Andrew Luck's for the next decade.

Mr teX
12-31-2012, 04:59 PM
ehh..i'm just not sold that Andrew Luck is going to be as dominant a force as Manning was..He wasn't even that in college despite being the consensus best qb his last 2 years and good talent around him.

My guess is we'll be duking it out every year with the Colts for the division title. Some years they'll win it, Some years we'll win it; We've got some pretty good young talent on defense that should be here for years to come giving him hell. :swatter:

Marcus
12-31-2012, 05:03 PM
I'll be honest with you, four games this season really told me about the Texans.

Getting completely dominated by the Packers and Patriots revealed that this team was not even close to being elite.

And the two OT games, while exciting from an entertainment perspective, were indicative of a team that was having a hard time beating two teams with a collective 6 wins between them without some very lucky breaks.

The Bengals are on a mission. They will have vengeance on their minds.

The Texans, based on the past four games, look like they are happy with the best record in franchise history and another AFC South banner for the stadium. It's probably the last one we will see for awhile because the division will be Andrew Luck's for the next decade.

I really don't think they mentally shut it down in the last 4 games because they are happy with the record. That implies they weren't trying. I think they were trying, and just got outplayed. They just are not as good as they were earlier this season, and it's not because don't want to win anymore. They are just not as good as we, and they, thought they were.

Regarding Schaub, I am done with him, and if Kubiak wants to stay married to him, then I'm done with him also. If he's happy with Schaub constantly under throwing his receivers, and throwing the ball away 99% of the time whenever he's flushed out of the pocket, then that's it for me.

What I find frightening, is that McNair will be happy "with the best record in franchise history". This year's team reminds me of 93 Oilers, and I can't tell you much that royally disgusts me.

fiasco west
12-31-2012, 05:18 PM
ehh..i'm just not sold that Andrew Luck is going to be as dominant a force as Manning was..He wasn't even that in college despite being the consensus best qb his last 2 years and good talent around him.

My guess is we'll be duking it out every year with the Colts for the division title. Some years they'll win it, Some years we'll win it; We've got some pretty good young talent on defense that should be here for years to come giving him hell. :swatter:

People seem to forget that Manning was/is one of the best QBs to EVER play in the NFL.

To say that Luck will be that or close to that is being extremely generous. I'll believe it when I see it. Lets be careful about crowning guys in one year, we see where that has gotten Cam Newton.

Double Barrel
12-31-2012, 05:53 PM
ehh..i'm just not sold that Andrew Luck is going to be as dominant a force as Manning was..He wasn't even that in college despite being the consensus best qb his last 2 years and good talent around him.

My guess is we'll be duking it out every year with the Colts for the division title. Some years they'll win it, Some years we'll win it; We've got some pretty good young talent on defense that should be here for years to come giving him hell. :swatter:

Luck just set the rookie passing record and has won games with clutch play this season. They were a 2-14 team coming into this season and they made the playoffs in his first year.

He's not going to be Manning, and nobody is ever going to be Manning. But, he will be a great QB for many years and I guess we'll see the Watt vs. Luck battle for awhile until JJ gets tired of playing here. ;)

I really don't think they mentally shut it down in the last 4 games because they are happy with the record. That implies they weren't trying. I think they were trying, and just got outplayed. They just are not as good as they were earlier this season, and it's not because don't want to win anymore. They are just not as good as we, and they, thought they were.

I think they were trying, so it's not a matter of coasting.

But I do think it's a matter of relaxing a little and losing a lot of focus and intensity.

It's the penalties. It's the dropped passes. It's the lame throws. It's missing blocking assignments.

Yeah, they got out-played, but how much of that was due to playing better talent or how much was due to not having their heads in the right place?

Regarding Schaub, I am done with him, and if Kubiak wants to stay married to him, then I'm done with him also. If he's happy with Schaub constantly under throwing his receivers, and throwing the ball away 99% of the time whenever he's flushed out of the pocket, then that's it for me.

Schaub is Warren Moon 2.0. Lots of nice regular season statistics, but never could live up to the hype for big, high pressure games.

What I find frightening, is that McNair will be happy "with the best record in franchise history". This year's team reminds me of 93 Oilers, and I can't tell you much that royally disgusts me.

I agree. I think McNair is not going to rock the boat. I have no idea what is most important to him, but as a investment, going to the playoffs and selling merchandise is good for business.

"There's always next year" and all that jazz. Just don't forget to renew your season tickets next month.

eriadoc
12-31-2012, 07:25 PM
Schaub is Warren Moon 2.0. Lots of nice regular season statistics, but never could live up to the hype for big, high pressure games.

Not that I don't get your point, but Schaub's not in the same neighborhood as Moon. Moon had all the tools. And Moon was part of a team that choked away big games, yes, but he put points on the board to get ahead. That team just couldn't preserve a lead. Matt Schaub can't get TDs at all. He's just totally inept.

Texecutioner
12-31-2012, 09:44 PM
There are only two people that touch the ball every single play on offense - Chris Myers and Matt Schaub.

Damn that Myers dude.

You have got to be kidding me. You guys amaze me at how all of you are supposed to know how this offense runs and can literally watch the running game fall apart which is the main part of our offense and watch the Oline crumble, but consistently put this all on Schaub.

He deserves some blame, but I can't even begin to understand how you guys just block out all of these other problems.

Texecutioner
12-31-2012, 09:50 PM
I have been saying for several weeks now that the two OT games drained us.

Those two comebacks, the OT battles too, it sapped us of our strength.

Whatever amount of mojo Kubiaub had, they spent all of it in those two OT games. Only the 1st Colts game (which was closer than the score suggests, due to TD off blocked punt) and the Titans game is what has kept us afloat.

The Pats, the Vikings, and the Colts were games where you could tell this Texans team was pleading for the opponent to help out...make their mistakes that would help us...basically our guys were having extra bye weeks.

I'm perfectly OK if we lose either vs Bengals or in the next round. I've seen all I need to see in order to know that Gary and Matt are tapped out. That pony keg is empty.

That only happened because of who the HC is.


Normally games like that totally make a team better and give them more confidence. The team took on the personality of their HC as they have in other seasons. I never trusted Kubiak's leadership no matter how good we looked. I trusted some of the players to do it on their own, but I'll never trust Kubiak under any circumstances. This is the kind of meltdown that normally would get most HC's fired.

chicagotexan2
12-31-2012, 10:27 PM
Damn these wheels fell off really fast. Schaub is not the qb to lead this team. I don't think know If Yates is any better but we all know now that schaub does not have what it takes to be a closer.

Corrosion
12-31-2012, 11:46 PM
Yep, the symbiotic relationship between head coach and QB can produce greatness (Walsh/Montana, Belichick/Brady, Landry/Staubach) or perpetual mediocrity (list way too long to mention).

The constants are the guy calling every offensive play and the guy taking every snap of every offensive play.

I went back and watched this game again .... there were plays to be made. Schaub simply didnt capitalize upon the opportunities , and there were at least a 9 plays where Schaub made critical errors ..... overthrown , underthrown , missing an open reciever and throwing into coverage.

It wasnt the playcalling , it wasnt the coaching , it was Schaub missing open reads or flat out throwing bad balls.

No , the OL didnt do him any favors against the Dolts backup DL .... but again , the plays were there to be made. The fact that the Dolts backup's were able to ruin the Texans day should go along way in telling us what has to be fixed going forward .... since we are stuck with Schaub for at least two more seasons.

In a league where games are decided by one play , your QB cant leave 9 of them on the field.

powda
01-01-2013, 07:37 AM
I'd love to see an honest quarterback competition between schaub and yates next season. I dont think yates would win the starting job, but we'd get a better ideal of what he really is and maybe light a fire under schaub's asz.

No tex, it's not all schaub but surely you can admit he's not playing at the level he was. His flaws are more and more apparent by the minute. Maybe people here are quicker to pull the trigger then you'd like because of the David Carr drama. Or maybe schaub just sucks.

hradhak
01-01-2013, 08:02 AM
That only happened because of who the HC is.


Normally games like that totally make a team better and give them more confidence. The team took on the personality of their HC as they have in other seasons. I never trusted Kubiak's leadership no matter how good we looked. I trusted some of the players to do it on their own, but I'll never trust Kubiak under any circumstances. This is the kind of meltdown that normally would get most HC's fired.

My problem with the setup we have now is that firing Kubiak and replacing him changes the dynamic completely. Our o line is built for the ZBS and our QB for that scheme as well. If we bring in someone else, we need to find a ZBS coordinator and a coach who will delegate completely the offense (which will be hard to do I imagine)

hradhak
01-01-2013, 08:07 AM
ehh..i'm just not sold that Andrew Luck is going to be as dominant a force as Manning was..He wasn't even that in college despite being the consensus best qb his last 2 years and good talent around him.

My guess is we'll be duking it out every year with the Colts for the division title. Some years they'll win it, Some years we'll win it; We've got some pretty good young talent on defense that should be here for years to come giving him hell. :swatter:

I think Luck will be good but not great. His completion percentage is 54% right now and teams have a full season of film on him with an offseason to identify his strengths and weaknesses. Sure, he's a rookie, but he is given a lot of credit for things that other players have done. He certainly didn't run back that kickoff for a TD to take the lead against us.

Also, all the hits he has taken this season are going to come back to hurt him. If the Indy line doesn't get better quickly, he's at risk for the chronic concussion syndrome.

TexansFanatic
01-02-2013, 03:02 PM
The Texans, based on the past four games, look like they are happy with the best record in franchise history and another AFC South banner for the stadium. It's probably the last one we will see for awhile because the division will be Andrew Luck's for the next decade.

EXACTLY. The Texans were handed the keys to the division crown in the transitional period between Manning and Luck.

Vinny
01-02-2013, 03:10 PM
I'll be honest with you, four games this season really told me about the Texans.

Getting completely dominated by the Packers and Patriots revealed that this team was not even close to being elite.

And the two OT games, while exciting from an entertainment perspective, were indicative of a team that was having a hard time beating two teams with a collective 6 wins between them without some very lucky breaks.

The Bengals are on a mission. They will have vengeance on their minds.

The Texans, based on the past four games, look like they are happy with the best record in franchise history and another AFC South banner for the stadium. It's probably the last one we will see for awhile because the division will be Andrew Luck's for the next decade.
Could you see Bill Belichick or Bill Parcells trying to avoid segways around his facility while strutting around with letterman jackets for winning the AFC East with a month left in the season?

probably not I'd guess.

Honoring Earl 34
01-02-2013, 03:16 PM
Could you see Bill Belichick or Bill Parcells trying to avoid segways around his facility while strutting around with letterman jackets for winning the AFC East with a month left in the season?

probably not I'd guess.

They got distracted or What is reading my own headlines for 500 Alex ? :swatter:

I would even say JJ saying " don't count me out of the MVP talk " is part of this .

Double Barrel
01-02-2013, 03:33 PM
You have got to be kidding me. You guys amaze me at how all of you are supposed to know how this offense runs and can literally watch the running game fall apart which is the main part of our offense and watch the Oline crumble, but consistently put this all on Schaub.

He deserves some blame, but I can't even begin to understand how you guys just block out all of these other problems.

I did not see the o-line or Foster completely under-throwing a receiver in stride for an easy INT. Schaub wasn't even slightly pressured on that INT.

There is plenty of blame to go around, but one player touches the ball on every offensive play, and one player tries to make all the passes. This is not a run first offense. Everything is predicated on the pass, and when the QB is off, the entire offense sucks wind.

You seem to blinded by Kubiak hatred and oblivious to Schaub's obvious shortcomings.

I went back and watched this game again .... there were plays to be made. Schaub simply didnt capitalize upon the opportunities , and there were at least a 9 plays where Schaub made critical errors ..... overthrown , underthrown , missing an open reciever and throwing into coverage.

It wasnt the playcalling , it wasnt the coaching , it was Schaub missing open reads or flat out throwing bad balls.

No , the OL didnt do him any favors against the Dolts backup DL .... but again , the plays were there to be made. The fact that the Dolts backup's were able to ruin the Texans day should go along way in telling us what has to be fixed going forward .... since we are stuck with Schaub for at least two more seasons.

In a league where games are decided by one play , your QB cant leave 9 of them on the field.

My thoughts exactly. I think this team could go to the SB with Kubiak as head coach, but he's picked Schaub as his QB and seems to be intent on making it work. I also think Kubiak is the kind of coach that does not want to change horses mid-stream, so in Schaub we (mis)trust until the wheels eventually fall off.

Could you see Bill Belichick or Bill Parcells trying to avoid segways around his facility while strutting around with letterman jackets for winning the AFC East with a month left in the season?

probably not I'd guess.

Belichick's team does not celebrate division "championships". Winning the division is just another brick in the road and a stepping stone to the final goal.

Our franchise, on the other hand, sees the division "championship" as a reason to let off the gas and take a month-long break from things. It's happened two years in a row now. I'm really excited about getting another banner for Reliant!

eriadoc
01-02-2013, 03:39 PM
Belichick's team does not celebrate division "championships". Winning the division is just another brick in the road and a stepping stone to the final goal.

Our franchise, on the other hand, sees the division "championship" as a reason to let off the gas and take a month-long break from things. It's happened two years in a row now. I'm really excited about getting another banner for Reliant!

That bugs me a lot, I must admit. When the Texans won the AFC South last year, I thought it was cool, but it was just a stepping stone. All the AFC South Championship t-shirts and hats were kind of a joke, I thought. I can see t-shirts and hype when you win the AFC. Winning the AFC South is just a playoff spot. You've accomplished something that 12 out of 32 teams accomplish. It's not all that huge a deal. Frankly, it should be expected.

Consequently, I did not get a 2011 AFC South t-shirt or hat. This year, my wife got me a 2012 one for Christmas. When I objected on the above argument, she said it's probably the closest I'm going to get for a while.

Since I couldn't argue against that, I wear the stupid shirt.

Mr teX
01-02-2013, 03:44 PM
I went back and watched this game again .... there were plays to be made. Schaub simply didnt capitalize upon the opportunities , and there were at least a 9 plays where Schaub made critical errors ..... overthrown , underthrown , missing an open reciever and throwing into coverage.

It wasnt the playcalling , it wasnt the coaching , it was Schaub missing open reads or flat out throwing bad balls.

No , the OL didnt do him any favors against the Dolts backup DL .... but again , the plays were there to be made. The fact that the Dolts backup's were able to ruin the Texans day should go along way in telling us what has to be fixed going forward .... since we are stuck with Schaub for at least two more seasons.

In a league where games are decided by one play , your QB cant leave 9 of them on the field.

9 plays? really?

2 ints
1 poorly thrown ball to OD on a kitchen sink blitz close to the red zone
1 overthrow to Jean that probably should've been completed for a long gain
1 throw where he missed OD coming across the middle wide open

That's all i counted right there that are all on him. I'd be interested to know the other 4 plays you counted that were all on him just to see what people are seeing that i'm not seeing....surely you're not counting any of the sacks on him are you?

eriadoc
01-02-2013, 03:48 PM
That's all i counted right there that are all on him. I'd be interested to know the other 4 plays you counted that were all on him just to see what people are seeing that i'm not seeing....surely you're not counting any of the sacks on him are you?

I have no idea what nine plays he's thinking about, but I seem to recall thinking at least one of those sacks was clearly on Schaub, as well as one incompletion based on pressure. The man's pre-snap recognition is atrocious at times.

Mr teX
01-02-2013, 03:56 PM
I have no idea what nine plays he's thinking about, but I seem to recall thinking at least one of those sacks was clearly on Schaub, as well as one incompletion based on pressure. The man's pre-snap recognition is atrocious at times.

The incompletion based on pressure you're talking about is that pass i spoke of in my previous post about the kitchen sink blitz. he threw it in the dirt falling back..he had a little more time if he just holds on & makes a solid throw..AJ was coming free right behind OD as well.

See i don't blame any of the sacks on him. 2 of them, he barely had a chance to set up in the pocket and someone was on him..the Freeney & Geathers sacks. There was another where he was getting ready to throw it but pulled it down and got creamed....i put that 1 on the line also b/c Harris/Jones man just shoved them to the side; they gotta hold up better than that.

the one thing he doesn't do that i can't stand is he NEVER uses a hard count. We saw luck use a hard count to get our defense to jump offsides 783297 times last week..Schaub doesn't use any. It's either walk up to the line and snap real fast or let the clock wind down & snap it...which helps the defense out more than the offense b/c they can time their blitzes perfectly.

Rey
01-02-2013, 04:07 PM
I have no idea what nine plays he's thinking about, but I seem to recall thinking at least one of those sacks was clearly on Schaub, as well as one incompletion based on pressure. The man's pre-snap recognition is atrocious at times.

I'd bet that Schaub doesn't make real "pre snap reads". He's looking for keys. He's pre programmed each week during practice and film. He's going strictly off of what he's told to do from week to week. He's not making adjustments on the fly. If you see this, do that and only that. If this guy is lined up here, this is what we're going to do...every other factor be damned.

If Matt did some real critical thinking and problem solving out there we'd see a variance in his cadence. We'd run the "sugar huddle" more often. We'd let him completely audible out of formations or plays. We don't see that. He comes up to the line, makes his robotic pre programmed read, and hikes the ball.

I don't think Matt is incapable of recognizing things before the snap. He's just not given that freedom/responsibility for some reason.

Double Barrel
01-02-2013, 04:09 PM
That bugs me a lot, I must admit. When the Texans won the AFC South last year, I thought it was cool, but it was just a stepping stone. All the AFC South Championship t-shirts and hats were kind of a joke, I thought. I can see t-shirts and hype when you win the AFC. Winning the AFC South is just a playoff spot. You've accomplished something that 12 out of 32 teams accomplish. It's not all that huge a deal. Frankly, it should be expected.

Consequently, I did not get a 2011 AFC South t-shirt or hat. This year, my wife got me a 2012 one for Christmas. When I objected on the above argument, she said it's probably the closest I'm going to get for a while.

Since I couldn't argue against that, I wear the stupid shirt.

I'll be honest, I got both the 2011 and 2012 division hats.

And my reason was exactly what your wife mentioned. I'm afraid that this is going to be as good as it gets, and we will look back at these two seasons with nostalgia someday. :shades:

But we are FANS, and this is what we do. The players, on the other hand, should not celebrate division "championships" (it just kills me to call it that), but rather act like it's expected and nothing but a stepping stone. Their attitude after winning the division the last two seasons seem to indicate otherwise, though. Baby steps, I guess.

Perki-Perk
01-02-2013, 04:10 PM
That bugs me a lot, I must admit. When the Texans won the AFC South last year, I thought it was cool, but it was just a stepping stone. All the AFC South Championship t-shirts and hats were kind of a joke, I thought. I can see t-shirts and hype when you win the AFC. Winning the AFC South is just a playoff spot. You've accomplished something that 12 out of 32 teams accomplish. It's not all that huge a deal. Frankly, it should be expected.

Consequently, I did not get a 2011 AFC South t-shirt or hat. This year, my wife got me a 2012 one for Christmas. When I objected on the above argument, she said it's probably the closest I'm going to get for a while.

Since I couldn't argue against that, I wear the stupid shirt.

Not to be a stickler for details, but only 8 out of 32 teams can actually win their division...:kitten:

Vinny
01-02-2013, 04:11 PM
Not to be a stickler for details, but only 8 out of 32 teams can actually win their division...:kitten:pretty impressive feat considering that the Colts had the top pick last year, the Jags have the second pick this year (tied with the Chiefs) and the Titans are just awful.

Double Barrel
01-02-2013, 04:15 PM
Not to be a stickler for details, but only 8 out of 32 teams can actually win their division...:kitten:

He's talking about making the playoffs.

His previous sentence was "Winning the AFC South is just a playoff spot".

TexansFanatic
01-02-2013, 04:17 PM
Schaub's obvious shortcomings.

I heard a great take from a caller on the radio yesterday. Really put Schaub's shortcomings into perspective.

Does he have a big arm? No.

Is he mobile, can he extend plays? No.

Is he good in the red zone? No.

Is he a great leader? No.

Is he a playmaker? No.

That's your starting quarterback.

Perki-Perk
01-02-2013, 04:18 PM
pretty impressive feat considering that the Colts had the top pick last year, the Jags have the second pick this year (tied with the Chiefs) and the Titans are just awful.

And thank goodness there aren't any Lucks in this upcoming draft :splits:

Say Watt
01-02-2013, 04:35 PM
I'd bet that Schaub doesn't make real "pre snap reads". He's looking for keys. He's pre programmed each week during practice and film. He's going strictly off of what he's told to do from week to week. He's not making adjustments on the fly. If you see this, do that and only that. If this guy is lined up here, this is what we're going to do...every other factor be damned.

If Matt did some real critical thinking and problem solving out there we'd see a variance in his cadence. We'd run the "sugar huddle" more often. We'd let him completely audible out of formations or plays. We don't see that. He comes up to the line, makes his robotic pre programmed read, and hikes the ball.

I don't think Matt is incapable of recognizing things before the snap. He's just not given that freedom/responsibility for some reason.

This.

Our offense is slow to setup. If the blocking isn't perfect, Schaub gets himself killed. The way I see it, Schaub's skill set simply does not suit this offense. If Kubiak can't see that, then he deserves to get his ass canned.

A QB in this offense either needs to be able to run to escape the blitz when our line misses an assignment, gets blown up, etc. or a QB with a strong arm and quick release. The ideal QB for this offense would have both of those qualities. Schaub has neither. That is the problem.

Schaub doesn't have the wheels to allow the offense the time it needs to get set. When our O-Line was dominant, it worked because everyone did their jobs. But now that the right side is inexperienced, Schaub is getting killed! Schaub also doesn't have a strong enough arm to whip the ball down the field and fit the pass into tight spots. He simply can't do it.

So what is the solution? IMO, we need to run more no huddle, have more short and intermediate passes, and start destroying our opponents with an uptempo passing offense. But that simply isn't on Kubiak's Denny's menu so it won't ever happen.

Say Watt
01-02-2013, 04:43 PM
I'd like to add to my post above for everyone to just think about for a minute the QBs Kubiak has coached. Let me list some for you:

Steve Young
John Elway
Jake Plummer

The rest of the QBs he has coached have been average or below average in his time as their coach. The successful ones all had strong arms and also had decent wheels for a QB. Schaub has neither. I wonder why Schaub has been such a failure...