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amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:15 PM
Ok, to change it up some, how do we fix our offense? Don't complain about Schaub or say we suck or post garbage. Seriously think about the topic and post ideas how to fix the offense, like changing the oline around, starting a new qb, changing play calls, design new plays, whatever. Post some ideas and see what we can come up with.

TexCanada
12-30-2012, 08:19 PM
Invest heavily on the Oline. We just aren't getting good enough play from them right now, and we don't have a QB that is good enough to make up for it. We have to get back to winning the battle in the trenches.

utahmark
12-30-2012, 08:21 PM
I'm not sure what we do about next week. Pray, I guess. Before next year starts I hope we draft a couple of lineman and have someone in mind to groom as Schaub's replacement.

I don't think we will be able to run the ball anymore this year. The colts had just givin up 300 yards rushing against the Chiefs and we could'nt run on them. Time to go back a couple of years and open up this offense if we have any hope of winning some games in the playoff's

WolverineFan
12-30-2012, 08:22 PM
Are we talking about the offseason or for the upcoming Cincy game?

For this year.....Get the damn TE's involved. What happened to the TE playaction game? Casey doesn't get any touches anymore. Martin is completely invisible in the slot. No looks. We ride Foster too much. Get Tate more carries. Rediscover the intermediate passing game.

For next year....need to upgrade the O-Line. It's been a sieve for the last month. Need to add another receiving weapon. Would be nice to add another good TE.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:24 PM
mainly for this season.....the off-season is another nightmare

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 08:24 PM
Pass more. Run run pass doesn't work. Let Schaub get into rhythm early. Have the pass set up the run. Have Schaub practice deep passes all damn week.

otisbean
12-30-2012, 08:25 PM
One thing I'd like to more of I'd screens, preferrably to guys with a little more speed than OD. Zone blocking lineman are athletic so I would think we would be a better screen team. I'd also like to get Casey matched up on some LBs in the passing game, he's got great speed and great hands. Just a couple thoughts for this season. We need OL help in the worst way

HJam72
12-30-2012, 08:26 PM
Right guard.

Right tackle.

Use Posey more, but don't expect miracles yet.

Use Clutts, or whatever his name is. We need the blocking BAD.

Send at least 3 deep on the same play occasionally.

Matter of fact, try using Casey AND Clutts WITH Foster or Tate and see what you can do with that. I'm thinking of the 49ers.

Use the 4 WR set more often.

Let Schaub audible to whatever he thinks will work. I know Kubiak will NEVER do this, but he sure ought to try it.


All I got.

Lucky
12-30-2012, 08:27 PM
I think this offense has leveled out until a young QB is brought in and developed. They've got Schaub with guaranteed money through 2013. But in 2014, he need competition. That's why I would get a QB in this draft and develop him. A Kaepernick or Wilson type.

DX-TEX
12-30-2012, 08:28 PM
Where is the burning picture of Kubiak at when you need it?

MEGA SWATT
12-30-2012, 08:29 PM
Bench Schaub, let TJ go for 2-0 against Cinci. Yes, Schaub is that bad.

Nawzer
12-30-2012, 08:29 PM
We don't need wholesale changes. We're stuck with Schaub and Kubiak for the foreseeable future so there's nothing we can do about that at the moment. What they have to realize is that the offense needs more flexibility. We need an offense that can quickly and efficiently move the ball. It's probably too late to make those kinds of changes right now, but I would like to see Keyshawn Martin more in this offense. I don't know why all of a sudden he's disappeared in the offense. DeVier Posey has been playing well but I think Martin can still contribute by become a possession receiver. Not having big tight ends also is a limiting factor because we can't make plays over the top of the defense. OD is great at moving the chains but he's not a big play threat. Overall we absolutely need to become more fast on offense.

Hervoyel
12-30-2012, 08:29 PM
Next week? Nothing can be done. The plodding sack of **** wearing number 8 will throw picks and fall down. It's going to happen so why worry about it. This season has been a colossal waste of time so the sooner it ends the better. Sadly we won so many games that we'll draft as if we were actually a good team and not just some aberration that picks on weak-sister teams with losing records. Just get it over with and head for the off-season.

Then I think that we invest heavily in the offensive line. I'm talking first day picks and maybe a free agent signing. It's time to take OL picks more seriously.

HJam72
12-30-2012, 08:29 PM
Pass more. Run run pass doesn't work. Let Schaub get into rhythm early. Have the pass set up the run. Have Schaub practice deep passes all damn week.

I like that one.

SheTexan
12-30-2012, 08:29 PM
Keep Rick Smith away from them!! In other words, FIRE his sorry arse!!!

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 08:30 PM
I think this offense has leveled out until a young QB is brought in and developed. They've got Schaub with guaranteed money through 2013. But in 2014, he need competition. That's why I would get a QB in this draft and develop him. A Kaepernick or Wilson type.

Is there a QB like that in this draft? Most of them are all classic dropback passers.

I guess Geno Smith could be he has some athleticism but he's going to go high.

TEXANRED
12-30-2012, 08:30 PM
Ok, to change it up some, how do we fix our offense?
Leave Schaub at home.

MEGA SWATT
12-30-2012, 08:31 PM
I like that one.

That's not going to help. He can't hit a receiver in stride. If he ever does or recently has.....it was an accident.

Leave Schaub at home.

agreed.

utahmark
12-30-2012, 08:31 PM
This team needs speed somewhere on the offensive side of the ball. None of our skill positions players are a threat to go the distance. Maybe we miss Jacoby.:kitten:

EllisUnit
12-30-2012, 08:31 PM
I'm not sure what we do about next week. Pray, I guess. Before next year starts I hope we draft a couple of lineman and have someone in mind to groom as Schaub's replacement.

I don't think we will be able to run the ball anymore this year. The colts had just givin up 300 yards rushing against the Chiefs and we could'nt run on them. Time to go back a couple of years and open up this offense if we have any hope of winning some games in the playoff's

agree with this, we need to start playing like we are always playing catch up, especially if the run game just isnt working. Go 5 wide and stretch the field, what we are doing now isnt working so we might as well try something different. BUT kubiak wont.

Wolf
12-30-2012, 08:33 PM
This coming week, more Daniels and graham . More Tate

hradhak
12-30-2012, 08:33 PM
We need a different mix of plays. Right now our offense doesn't resemble the team of 2 years ago when we could convert more than 50% of our 3rd downs. We are last in 3rd down conversions this season. Down from the best.

I would like to see more screens, more passing to Arian in the flat, and passing the ball to the TEs. Our WRs aren't gonna get any more this season than what we've got.

HJam72
12-30-2012, 08:34 PM
That's not going to help. He can't hit a receiver in stride. If he ever does or recently has.....it was an accident.



agreed.

Actually, he did really well (you just reminded me) in the Denver game. God, that was a long time ago. Seems like last year.

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 08:36 PM
I like that one.

Those play action deep passes are only open like that 2-3 times a game at most. He has to hit those.

EllisUnit
12-30-2012, 08:36 PM
Actually, he did really well (you just reminded me) in the Denver game. God, that was a long time ago. Seems like last year.

yeah it does, that is when our offense was looking like the cream of the crop in the NFL, scoring easily and at will. Man the drop off is so big it is almost hard to believe.

utahmark
12-30-2012, 08:37 PM
Then I think that we invest heavily in the offensive line. I'm talking first day picks and maybe a free agent signing. It's time to take OL picks more seriously.

I always thought that was one thing the Oilers did right. They drafted a bunch of O-lineman early and rode them for about 10 years. Sometimes you need more than lineman that work in the scheme that your using you need some guys who can outplay the guy in front of him.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:37 PM
yeah it does, that is when our offense was looking like the cream of the crop in the NFL, scoring easily and at will. Man the drop off is so big it is almost hard to believe.

what changed...did an olinemen get hurt or something...what is causing this massive drop off?

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 08:37 PM
This team needs speed somewhere on the offensive side of the ball. None of our skill positions players are a threat to go the distance. Maybe we miss Jacoby.:kitten:

His fumbling ability would have helped tremendously in crushing our hopes even worse than they are now.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:38 PM
His fumbling ability would have helped tremendously in crushing our hopes even worse than they are now.

not to mention , its not our ability to get open deep, its the ability or lack of getting them the ball

utahmark
12-30-2012, 08:39 PM
His fumbling ability would have helped tremendously in crushing our hopes even worse than they are now.

I agree. But we do need some type of deep threat to open up the rest of the field.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:40 PM
I agree. But we do need some type of deep threat to open up the rest of the field.

see above

EllisUnit
12-30-2012, 08:40 PM
what changed...did an olinemen get hurt or something...what is causing this massive drop off?

honestly. here is what i think.

when kubiak gets a little lead in a game he gets really conservative, i see no difference in what he did with our lead in the AFC and it really bit us in the ass. I think he is the reason for the drop off. He seems to get scared and tries to out smart himself.

so we get a lead in a game and go turtle and we get a lead in the AFC and go turtle, not surprising really. I expect to see him open it back up next weekend now that we've lost HFA haha

Spled
12-30-2012, 08:41 PM
For the playoffs I like to see them use the play action more.

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 08:41 PM
not to mention , its not our ability to get open deep, its the ability or lack of getting them the ball

So true. No matter how open a guy is if the QB can't get it to them it does no good.

Rey
12-30-2012, 08:42 PM
We need a new qb. It's not the wr's. It's not. It's not the te's. It's not the oline. It's not the rb.

We need a new qb. Or we need a new coach that will get a new qb.

Schaub and kubiak are a poor combination. Schaub is a back up qb. He is John kitna.

I don't care if we take s couple steps back at the position trying to find a guy that can make plays. He's not the guy. Hes a grade above Chad henne. He's Matt hassleback. He's Alex smith without the mobility and arm. He's the non mobile safe with the ball sage rosenfels. He's the more successful Gary kubiak...and only because he made him that...

Tailgate
12-30-2012, 08:43 PM
Get Winston, Briesel, Dreessen, Leach, Gibbs, and Kyle Shannahan back. Reverse the aging process on Andre, add a true # 2 WR... get Tate back to form, And replace Schaub with a mobile, proven playoff QB who has been studying this system secretly on the side for years.

VUALA!!!

thunderkyss
12-30-2012, 08:43 PM
Are we talking about the offseason or for the upcoming Cincy game?

For this year.....Get the damn TE's involved. What happened to the TE playaction game? Casey doesn't get any touches anymore. Martin is completely invisible in the slot. No looks. We ride Foster too much. Get Tate more carries. Rediscover the intermediate passing game.

For next year....need to upgrade the O-Line. It's been a sieve for the last month. Need to add another receiving weapon. Would be nice to add another good TE.

I agree with this for the most part. Make KDub a TE open up our 3 TE packages. Take your pick for the #2 WR. I like Posey & Jean sharing that spot, with KMart in the slot. Get Tate involved. Foster ran better when he was competing with Tate.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:43 PM
honestly. here is what i think.

when kubiak gets a little lead in a game he gets really conservative, i see no difference in what he did with our lead in the AFC and it really bit us in the ass. I think he is the reason for the drop off. He seems to get scared and tries to out smart himself.

so we get a lead in a game and go turtle and we get a lead in the AFC and go turtle, not surprising really. I expect to see him open it back up next weekend now that we've lost HFA haha

idk, we were barely ahead of indy and we seemed to drop off before we ever played them...something is not right, not sure what....

utahmark
12-30-2012, 08:47 PM
not to mention , its not our ability to get open deep, its the ability or lack of getting them the ball

I'm not sure about the first part. When all our guys are getting man coverage all game and all you ever see is an occasional man with half a step on thier defender..... It does'nt make the other coach want to double anyone. No one is worried about anyone on our team making a game changing play. I never see AJ getting double coverage anymore and we sure don't have anyone else to take the presure off. We need a playmaker.

You are right about Schaub being part of the problem as well.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 08:50 PM
I'm not sure about the first part. When all our guys are getting man coverage all game and all you ever see is an occasional man with half a step on thier defender..... It does'nt make the other coach want to double anyone. No one is worried about anyone on our team making a game changing play. I never see AJ getting double coverage anymore and we sure don't have anyone else to take the presure off. We need a playmaker.

You are right about Schaub being part of the problem as well.

well I see guys beating their man consistently and Schaub under throwing them and then occasionally over throwing them...he did it what, 2 or 3 times today? how many times do you think we should go deep? the system is fine, the skill players are fine, the person running the offense is not fine.

but since we cannot change that right now we need to come up with another plan to further limit schaubs inabilities.

I think we need to run more but in order to do this we need to shore up the right side of the line...not sure how, but they better evaluate the entire team and see if we can plug anyone in at rg and get better play....because the last few games have not been good over there

Mr teX
12-30-2012, 08:51 PM
Pass more. Run run pass doesn't work. Let Schaub get into rhythm early. Have the pass set up the run. Have Schaub practice deep passes all damn week.

This....commitment to the run game has not been effective...open it up & let this dude get into a rythm...they'll have to match up and take someone out of the box....then hit em with foster/tate..

HJam72
12-30-2012, 08:52 PM
I think some of what's going on is that, thoughout the season, teams have figured us out and how to deal with us. We've been less than stellar on the right side all year, but about a month ago, they figured out they could overload us on the LEFT side, and still beat us on the right, so that Brown and Smith on the left can't open anything up for Foster either. I remember early in the year thinking that, when we ran to the right, the RB always cut straight up-field or back to the left. Only time the RB stayed straight with his designed run-play was when we ran to the left. This has also cost us any place for Scaub to run and hide, not that he ever had mobility anyway. Lack of quality play on the right side is hurting us even more now that teams are over-loading the left side, so that we can't do anything either way. We sure can't run either way....and that's the whole ball-game....because Schaub ain't doing ****e if we can't run.

Another question is why can't Schaub pass when we can't run? He passed when we couldn't run in 2009. What's changed there?

edit: 2 minutes later: answer: it's still the right side of the line, because they don't protect the QB either.

EllisUnit
12-30-2012, 08:52 PM
well I see guys beating their man consistently and Schaub under throwing them and then occasionally over throwing them...he did it what, 2 or 3 times today? how many times do you think we should go deep? the system is fine, the skill players are fine, the person running the offense is not fine.

but since we cannot change that right now we need to come up with another plan to further limit schaubs inabilities.

I think we need to run more but in order to do this we need to shore up the right side of the line...not sure how, but they better evaluate the entire team and see if we can plug anyone in at rg and get better play....because the last few games have not been good over there

agree schaub missed 3 TDs, sure AJ should of caught the under thrown ball but put it up above his chest its a TD, Lestar had a step on his man, and then Graham had a lot of room to roam on the pick.

I see 21 points that schaub kept us from getting.

TEXANRED
12-30-2012, 08:57 PM
Pass more. Run run pass doesn't work. Let Schaub get into rhythm early. Have the pass set up the run. Have Schaub practice deep passes all damn week.

Matt Schaub is a 10 year vet and our QB for the last 6. Matt Schaub is who Matt Schaub is. If he can't hit a deep pass by now he never will.

HJam72
12-30-2012, 09:05 PM
Right guard.

Right tackle.

Use Posey more, but don't expect miracles yet.

Use Clutts, or whatever his name is. We need the blocking BAD.

Send at least 3 deep on the same play occasionally.

Matter of fact, try using Casey AND Clutts WITH Foster or Tate and see what you can do with that. I'm thinking of the 49ers.

Use the 4 WR set more often.

Let Schaub audible to whatever he thinks will work. I know Kubiak will NEVER do this, but he sure ought to try it.


All I got.

I want to change my first two sentences to:

Mike Briesel.

Eric Winston.

deucetx
12-30-2012, 09:11 PM
Well since we just mean this postseason it's a bit difficult.

The biggest issue is the offensive line is lacking and the truth of the matter is nothing we can do about it. There is no one else capable on the roster currently. We're stuck with Newton since Harris is not much different and stuck with Jones since Caldwell is not much different.

As one person pointed out one change-up to help the run game would be to use a real fullback in Clutts. Granted as someone who is also a Bears fan he isn't that good but has his moments in blocking. To also help the run game mix it more. Foster is more reliant on blocking to read and react. Tate is north and south where he just hits it. Wear the defense down and hit them more with both. We barely see Tate. Heck, mix Forsett sometimes on screens and such too.

For the passing game...get more freaking flexible. I have seen this offense more flexible than this. Remember when David Anderson made it seem like we had a slot receiver and Jones at times too? Do we still? Put Casey at end and hit them with him in the passing game. His size and speed is an advantage more times than not. Tight ends seem barely involved lately.

I know we were trying to limit Foster since he was running so much but it's time for him to be in the passing game much more again. He is a great receiver out the backfield and a threat in open field. Since we can't block much in the run game lets get him in space more.

Right now our offense feels, for lack of a better word, compact. Not very flexible, not much variation, etc. Need a shift to get things going again.

steelbtexan
12-30-2012, 09:12 PM
Keep Rick Smith away from them!! In other words, FIRE his sorry arse!!!

Not a Rick Smith fan GMa?

Me niether

Rey
12-30-2012, 09:18 PM
edit: 2 minutes later: answer: it's still the right side of the line, because they don't protect the QB either.

Not a popular opinion, but I don't think the line is the problem. Yes they are worse than last year.

The reason schaub isn't passing for all those yards like he did back then is because we are in games now. We aren't down by a bunch of scores playing prevent stat padding defense.

Matt's stats have also been helped a bunch by guys getting yac. For the past 6 years we've had a top 6 guy in yac. No other team has had that.

All o lines give up pressure. We got to luck a bunch today. But he was able to make big throws when the opportunity was there.


And Andre should have caught the ball, but the throw wasn't all that. He's 6 4 and has his man beat by a good margin. Throw the damn ball up so he can pluck it out the air and not have to slow down and bend over. That's the same version of throw that led to Andre kicking the ball up for a game ending int a couple years ago.

Underthrows, throws at the feet, no mobility, no playmaking. But not risky and knows the plays. A back up at his finest. Would love to have a real qb and have schaub behind him to hold the fort for a few games in case of injury.

The team looks defeated because they don't fully believe in the qb. They don't think he's going to make those big time plays. They don't believe he'll punish defenses. They'll give lip service and say they do though.

But look how energized this team was under Yates last year.

Mr teX
12-30-2012, 09:20 PM
They look defeated b/ c they dont know how to fix the problems they have...

markn
12-30-2012, 09:21 PM
Indy, Baltimore and Denver are the only playoff teams we've beaten. The theory that we beat Denver early in the season before they'd got their act together gains credence. I hate to say it, but perhaps our offense was never quite as good as we though.

ArlingtonTexan
12-30-2012, 09:21 PM
I want to change my first two sentences to:

Mike Briesel.

Eric Winston.

yeah, that is salary cap era football. You gotta be trying get guys or two in the system before the specifc year you need them. Same problem with the WR situation.

Rey
12-30-2012, 09:28 PM
They look defeated b/ c they dont know how to fix the problems they have...

No one does. Hard to find a starting qb at this point.

thunderkyss
12-30-2012, 09:48 PM
what changed...did an olinemen get hurt or something...what is causing this massive drop off?

I think Caldwell got hurt around week 4 or 5. Ben Jones started playing & I think he did fine...... I think he won that position. A few weeks later, we lost Newton for a couple of games. Three I think. I believe it was the Detroit, Jacksonville, New England games.

I thought getting Newton back would set us right again, but so far it doesn't look like it. Maybe because he's trying to get Brooks in the game. Which, you'd think if he wanted Brooks at RG, he'd stick him in there & go with it, but he's still swapping Brooks & Jones, which I would think would slow their development.

We lost the game, I know it's hard to see any kind of improvements when we lose. But if it weren't for the two Ints, I think our OL took a good step forward.

Mr teX
12-30-2012, 09:49 PM
No one does. Hard to find a starting qb at this point.

Yeah that's what i meant......everyone from the head coach to the 53rd man on the roster is just lost....

amazing80
12-30-2012, 09:52 PM
Indy, Baltimore and Denver are the only playoff teams we've beaten. The theory that we beat Denver early in the season before they'd got their act together gains credence. I hate to say it, but perhaps our offense was never quite as good as we though.

I can one up you

We barely beat the Broncos and Manning was not even close to the level he is now, he was still getting used to his team

We beat Baltimore after they lost their emotional leader in Lewis and they did not have Ngata O

We only beat Indy because of a fluke goal line fumble and lucky blocked punt for a td

#overrated ???

thunderkyss
12-30-2012, 09:58 PM
We've been less than stellar on the right side all year....

I'd love to see some evidence that would support this. I think we've had as many big runs to the right as we've had to the left. I think Foster's biggest runs have been to the right, & there have been more stops on the left.

I think we need to get better there on the right, but I think there is equal room for improvement on the left. I think most people pick on the right side, because we know what happened there. But we have no excuse for the left side.

This is Wade's second year of poor play. Chris Myers has taken a serious drop. Brown, though not playing as well as last year, he's still not & hasn't been that MONSTER he was last season.

IlliniJen
12-30-2012, 09:59 PM
Our offense is so vanilla and there's no fixing it without a coaching/QB change. Do we even have more than one WR?

There are two plays in Kubiak's playlist: Run up the gut for no yards. And throw the ball to number 80. Not a lot to have to defend against if you're playing opposite that playcalling. No variation, no imagination, no balls.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 10:02 PM
Our offense is so vanilla and there's no fixing it without a coaching/QB change. Do we even have more than one WR?

There are two plays in Kubiak's playlist: Run up the gut for no yards. And throw the ball to number 80. Not a lot to have to defend against if you're playing opposite that playcalling. No variation, no imagination, no balls.

None of us know what the play calls are, schaub is the one who pulls the trigger, it could easily be him feeding aj and completely ignoring everyone else....and I happen to think this is the case....too many times you see 8 check down on 3rd downs, no way in hell is gary calling a play where the first read is a rb on a swing pass on 3rd and 4

Uncle Rico
12-30-2012, 10:07 PM
get rid of schaub. pick up tony romo after uncle jerry loses his damn mind and fires everybody. pop bottles!

simple!

Mr teX
12-30-2012, 10:18 PM
get rid of schaub. pick up tony romo after uncle jerry loses his damn mind and fires everybody. pop bottles!

simple!

Lol, so you think mustard instead of mayo would taste better on your **** sandwich i take it then?

thunderkyss
12-30-2012, 10:21 PM
Not a popular opinion, but I don't think the line is the problem. Yes they are worse than last year.

The reason schaub isn't passing for all those yards like he did back then is because we are in games now. We aren't down by a bunch of scores playing prevent stat padding defense.

Matt's stats have also been helped a bunch by guys getting yac. For the past 6 years we've had a top 6 guy in yac. No other team has had that.

Rey,

You make some good points. But this... trying to rewrite history. It's not a fact that Schaub padded his stats by being behind all the time & throwing against soft defenses. There was a time when we couldn't run the ball to sit on a lead & Schaub would throw the ball. We lost a lot of one possession games, in which Schaub built his stats.

Then to say he's Jon Kitna..... I liked Jon Kitna, but Matt is no Jon Kitna.

And Andre should have caught the ball, but the throw wasn't all that. He's 6 4 and has his man beat by a good margin. Throw the damn ball up so he can pluck it out the air and not have to slow down and bend over. That's the same version of throw that led to Andre kicking the ball up for a game ending int a couple years ago.

I don't remember what Matt was dealing with at that time. Maybe there was somebody at his feet. Maybe he had to throw it over a LB & try to get it to drop right. Maybe he took a shot to the ribs. I don't know, like I said, I don't remember.

But you're right, Andre should have caught that ball more than Matt should have made a better throw. That's an easy catch..... should have been. Compared to some of the other balls we've seen, some of the other acrobatic catches.

To me, it helps the team if Andre makes that catch. Hurts the psyche if he doesn't... like the Texans are thinking nothing's going to go right today, that catch would feed into that thinking.

Underthrows, throws at the feet, no mobility, no playmaking. But not risky and knows the plays. A back up at his finest. Would love to have a real qb and have schaub behind him to hold the fort for a few games in case of injury.


I agree, a lot of that stuff needs to get worked out. But it wasn't that long ago that Schaub was not the problem. Denver, Baltimore, Detroit, Jacksonville.... didn't look too bad in Tennessee.


The team looks defeated because they don't fully believe in the qb. They don't think he's going to make those big time plays. They don't believe he'll punish defenses. They'll give lip service and say they do though.

But look how energized this team was under Yates last year.

I do think if Matt's going to be the leader he needs to be, he's got to have to make a big time play more often than not. They need to know that he's going to go above & beyond to give them an opportunity to make a play. Throwing the ball away as often & quickly as he does is not going to get it done. If I'm a receiver/TE, 5 seconds after the snap, why should I be running? I know he's already got rid of the ball & if my name isn't Aj, chances are he wasn't going to throw it at me anyway.

Pantherstang84
12-30-2012, 10:22 PM
Lol, so you think mustard instead of mayo would taste better on your **** sandwich i take it then?

I had to rep this post. :laughjump:

Uncle Rico
12-30-2012, 10:30 PM
Lol, so you think mustard instead of mayo would taste better on your **** sandwich i take it then?

at least romo can outrun DT's and throw the ball 40 yards down the field.

hradhak
12-30-2012, 10:38 PM
honestly. here is what i think.

when kubiak gets a little lead in a game he gets really conservative, i see no difference in what he did with our lead in the AFC and it really bit us in the ass. I think he is the reason for the drop off. He seems to get scared and tries to out smart himself.

so we get a lead in a game and go turtle and we get a lead in the AFC and go turtle, not surprising really. I expect to see him open it back up next weekend now that we've lost HFA haha

I think you can get conservative when your run game is working. Right now it isn't and we can't sit on the ball like we did last year. Our offensive line gets better, I think being conservative with a lead is not much of a problem.

Without an o line, we need to adjust and get more aggressive.

amazing80
12-30-2012, 10:40 PM
I think you can get conservative when your run game is working. Right now it isn't and we can't sit on the ball like we did last year. Our offensive line gets better, I think being conservative with a lead is not much of a problem.

Without an o line, we need to adjust and get more aggressive.

aggressive and kubiak is an oxymoron

klockWork
12-30-2012, 11:53 PM
No other thing left except to let players like Newton, Jones, Jean, and Martin progress. Since we stuck on QB, Schaub needs to learn to trust his young receivers and stop forcing everything to AJ.
Any key FA signing isn't happening after we didn't franchised tag Foster. We stuck with what we got. And what we got is still more than most(8 pro-bowlers).

thunderkyss
12-30-2012, 11:54 PM
at least romo can outrun DT's and throw the ball 40 yards down the field.

& how'd that work out for him?

playa465
12-31-2012, 12:09 AM
For the next game we have to break the mold...spread the offense out and hit some quick throws to get our QB's confidence up. With our OL struggling everything things needs to be at a faster pace even running plays...quick pitches or quick hits up the gut. Also Kubiak needs to have the offense break the huddle and run up to the LOS on every play. They look too lethargic, get some hustle in their azz.

midway
12-31-2012, 12:10 AM
For the next game we have to break the mold...spread the offense out and hit some quick throws to get our QB's confidence up. With our OL struggling everything things needs to be at a faster pace even running plays...quick pitches or quick hits up the gut. Also Kubiak needs to have the offense break the huddle and run up to the LOS on every play. They look too lethargic, get some hustle in their azz.

Not happening, Kubiak is scared ****less.