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Big Lou
12-30-2012, 04:00 PM
Look the Texans didn't play well enough to win given the situation, but was it a fair contest? I'm not saying the NFL is rigged, but if you deny that we got called for everything and then some, while the Colts barely got called, and got help.

The Texans played well enough at the begining of the season, and could have overcome help from the NFL, but not now.

This was as much BS as last year in Indy.

The NFL had two story lines in this game:

1. "Chuckstrong", enough said. The NFL wanted their touchy feely story.
2. Houston has never beat Indy in Indy. This was the story line last year and they love it for some reason.

The Texans are playing weak, but this was a disgrace, Goodell should be f'ing ashamed. One more showing like this by the NFL, and I will give up on Pro Football.

Before you blast me about the Texans should have played well enough to win period, I agree, but it should be a fair contest. Never was and if you cant admit that then you are just too angry at "insert person/coach/etc. here" to see the truth.

Gumble just went to commercial with the story line of the day, "Colts give Pagano heart warming, blah, blah, blah, they played hard for him, blah, blah, they overcame the odds, blah, blah, blah. B*ll****.

Bottom line Indy played well, made some big plays, but the momentum was stolen from the Texans.


Disgraceful for all involved.

EllisUnit
12-30-2012, 04:04 PM
Look the Texans didn't play well enough to win given the situation, but was it a fair contest? I'm not saying the NFL is rigged, but if you deny that we got called for everything and then some, while the Colts barely got called, and got help.

The Texans played well enough at the begining of the season, and could have overcome help from the NFL, but not now.

This was as much BS as last year in Indy.

The NFL had two story lines in this game:

1. "Chuckstrong", enough said. The NFL wanted their touchy feely story.
2. Houston has never beat Indy in Indy. This was the story line last year and they love it for some reason.

The Texans are playing weak, but this was a disgrace, Goodell should be f'ing ashamed. One more showing like this by the NFL, and I will give up on Pro Football.

Before you blast me about the Texans should have played well enough to win period, I agree, but it should be a fair contest. Never was and if you cant admit that then you are just too angry at "insert person/coach/etc. here" to see the truth.

Gumble just went to commercial with the story line of the day, "Colts give Pagano heart warming, blah, blah, blah, they played hard for him, blah, blah, they overcame the odds, blah, blah, blah. B*ll****.

Bottom line Indy played well, made some big plays, but the momentum was stolen from the Texans.


Disgraceful for all involved.

We played like ****, The refs called the game like ****, kubiak called plays like ****, Schaub played like ****, now my day and week has gone to ****.

So yeah

panamamyers
12-30-2012, 04:05 PM
The blown call on the fumble was huge. The interference that turned a fg into a td was huge. Wayne was never even touched by Harris.
We still killed ourselves with a qb that folds up like an accordion in pressure moments.

DX-TEX
12-30-2012, 04:06 PM
quit making excuses

mariowillshine15
12-30-2012, 04:07 PM
The calls were awful but we were also awful so can't blame it all on the refs.

Texn4life
12-30-2012, 04:07 PM
I'm at a loss for words..... I'll see you guys next week. Too damn depressing.

TimeKiller
12-30-2012, 04:08 PM
It definitely changed the outcome of the game. I'm sure we'll see exactly NO statement on this by the NFL because there is nothing to say about it. Luck threw that football about as much as I am a professional quarterback.

cdollaz
12-30-2012, 04:08 PM
The only thing lamer than the Texans performance over the last 7 games is any kind of talk about fixed games or refs costing the Texans in any of those games.

If you tuly believe that games are fixed, why would ou keep watching?

Pantherstang84
12-30-2012, 04:08 PM
Blaming refs is for losers.

ajohnson80
12-30-2012, 04:09 PM
Yeah the Texans had to beat the refs and the colts today. That fumble call was just the worst call since the replacement refs called that interception a td. I saw at least 4 encroachments that weren't called. They also made some bad calls in our favor but not enough to even it out.

No excuses though they had their opportunity's.

ajohnson80
12-30-2012, 04:11 PM
The only thing lamer than the Texans performance over the last 7 games is any kind of talk about fixed games or refs costing the Texans in any of those games.

If you tuly believe that games are fixed, why would ou keep watching?

Alot of people still watch wrestling and the Nba.

bo orlando
12-30-2012, 04:11 PM
Look the Texans didn't play well enough to win given the situation, but was it a fair contest? I'm not saying the NFL is rigged, but if you deny that we got called for everything and then some, while the Colts barely got called, and got help.




Refs generally always favor the home team. Being humans themselves, they get caught up in the crowd and all that stuff just like the rest of us. If the refs were trying to fix the game beyond this then they missed a lot of opportunities to do so.

Vinny
12-30-2012, 04:12 PM
quit making excuses
good post

cdollaz
12-30-2012, 04:13 PM
Alot of people still watch wrestling and the Nba.

Everyone over the age of 12 knows wrestling is fake. They watch it for entertainment. Anyone who truly feels the NBA is rigged and still watches is stupid.

Iceman16
12-30-2012, 04:14 PM
1. "Chuckstrong", enough said. The NFL wanted their touchy feely story.
...lol. Get off the internet, you're an idiot.

ajohnson80
12-30-2012, 04:15 PM
Everyone over the age of 12 knows wrestling is fake. They watch it for entertainment. Anyone who truly feels the NBA is rigged and still watches is stupid.

Did you watch the Kings vs Lakers seriers? How about the heat vs mavericks when the heat had wade and shaq. Go watch those 2 series then tell me how you really feel.

Why would it make them stupid? Some people enjoy watching the talent of Nba players even if Stern is more about ratings and profit.

BullBlitz
12-30-2012, 04:16 PM
Look the Texans didn't play well enough to win given the situation, but was it a fair contest? I'm not saying the NFL is rigged, but if you deny that we got called for everything and then some, while the Colts barely got called, and got help.

The Texans played well enough at the begining of the season, and could have overcome help from the NFL, but not now.

This was as much BS as last year in Indy.

The NFL had two story lines in this game:

1. "Chuckstrong", enough said. The NFL wanted their touchy feely story.
2. Houston has never beat Indy in Indy. This was the story line last year and they love it for some reason.

The Texans are playing weak, but this was a disgrace, Goodell should be f'ing ashamed. One more showing like this by the NFL, and I will give up on Pro Football.

Before you blast me about the Texans should have played well enough to win period, I agree, but it should be a fair contest. Never was and if you cant admit that then you are just too angry at "insert person/coach/etc. here" to see the truth.

Gumble just went to commercial with the story line of the day, "Colts give Pagano heart warming, blah, blah, blah, they played hard for him, blah, blah, they overcame the odds, blah, blah, blah. B*ll****.

Bottom line Indy played well, made some big plays, but the momentum was stolen from the Texans.


Disgraceful for all involved.

The Texans haven't had any momentum since prior to the Patriots game. Kind of tough for today's refs to have stolen it.

Please quit whining. Fans' expectations for this team were too high and unwarranted.

JCTexan
12-30-2012, 04:17 PM
Yeah the Texans had to beat the refs and the colts today. That fumble call was just the worst call since the replacement refs called that interception a td. I saw at least 4 encroachments that weren't called. They also made some bad calls in our favor but not enough to even it out.

No excuses though they had their opportunity's.

This. As much as it pains me to say, the refs screwed Houston this game. That false start on Houston on the first drive destroyed the drive. It was clearly encroachment. Then there was no way in hell you overturn the fumble call. That was pathetic.

ajohnson80
12-30-2012, 04:17 PM
for the record I never said the nfl was rigged or this game.

Vinny
12-30-2012, 04:18 PM
This. As much as it pains me to say, the refs screwed Houston this game. That false start on Houston on the first drive destroyed the drive. It was clearly encroachment. Then there was no way in hell you overturn the fumble call. That was pathetic.
Texans were awful on offense, special teams and defense. The excuses are lame and make us look stupid as a fan base.

JCTexan
12-30-2012, 04:20 PM
Texans were awful on offense, special teams and defense. The excuses are lame and make us look stupid as a fan base.

Was it a fumble? To me it clearly was... I'm not saying the Texans weren't awful in many aspects of the game, but in no way was that not a fumble. The penalty that lost the momentum of the first drive was clearly encroachment.

qqert
12-30-2012, 04:21 PM
2. The NFL possesses an Anti-Trust Exemption to the law granted to it by President John F. Kennedy, which ultimately allows the NFL to classify itself as "entertainment" rather than sport, as well as incorporate itself as a single entity instead of the 32 separate "franchises" they would want you to believe. Contrary to the perception of the NFL being 32 separate franchises battling it out for gridiron supremacy. In a franchised environment, such as McDonalds (Business 101), each franchise is individually owned and operated and can participate in national promotions, have its own local promotions, or abstain from participating (hence the fine print in commercials saying "at participating locations".

This keeps the regionality of competition in tact without having to compete on a national level. MLB has this status, the NFL does not. Instead, since the NFL has this Anti-Trust exemption, it is able to package its teams in order to sell to national television companies, which today totals $6 Billion in revenue for the league. That is 75% of the leagues total annual revenue. In a 2004 lawsuit vs the NFL, the NFL attorney Gregg H. Levy argued that "the NFL is not a collection of 32 individual teams, but rather a single entity. And as long as the NFL teams are a unit, and they compete as a unit in the entertainment marketplace, then they should be deemed a single unit and not subject to any Anti-Trust laws."

There is only another "sports" organization that I can think of that follows this, the WWE. Levy also argued that the league markets its products and merchandise as a whole to promote the NFL as a whole. These arguments led all the way to lockout during the 2011 offseason. The league would still earn $5 Billion in revenue, even without a single game being played.

Professional sports is the only industry without ANY federal oversight. Therefore the league can do and go as they see fit, this is something the players were concerned about going into the lockout, the NFL players themselves sought help from US Congress asking for oversight of the NFL. And NFL players wanted an explanation as to why the NFL owners were granted an Anti-Trust exemption in the first place. They didn't get it.

The NFL proved in this lawsuit that they see themselves as a single unit in the "entertainment" industry and the unique league revenue sharing strategy is not common amongst professional sports leagues.

source < (http://spaces.covers.com/blog/MaximumWins/NFL/03042012-Reasons-Why-The-NFL-Is-Fixed-For-Profit.html)

:spin::spin::spin:

Wolf
12-30-2012, 04:22 PM
Blaming the refs remind me of WR that complain every time the ball is thrown and when they don't catch it,they want a ref to bail them out every time. Quit worrying about the refs and make plays

Big Lou
12-30-2012, 04:45 PM
quit making excuses

Its not an excuse its what happened. If you want point out just poor pl
ay you arent discussing the whole story.

We played poorly last week, but that was all bad play the refs didn't contribute this week they did.

Big Lou
12-30-2012, 04:56 PM
Blaming refs is for losers.

I wasn't out and out blaming the refs but discussing the reasons they interfered with the game.

Big Lou
12-30-2012, 04:59 PM
...lol. Get off the internet, you're an idiot.

Is this a personal attack from the keeper of the internet. Take your anger out on someone else dude.

ESAD2-14
12-30-2012, 05:17 PM
Look the Texans didn't play well enough to win given the situation, but was it a fair contest? I'm not saying the NFL is rigged, but if you deny that we got called for everything and then some, while the Colts barely got called, and got help.

The Texans played well enough at the begining of the season, and could have overcome help from the NFL, but not now.

This was as much BS as last year in Indy.

The NFL had two story lines in this game:

1. "Chuckstrong", enough said. The NFL wanted their touchy feely story.
2. Houston has never beat Indy in Indy. This was the story line last year and they love it for some reason.

The Texans are playing weak, but this was a disgrace, Goodell should be f'ing ashamed. One more showing like this by the NFL, and I will give up on Pro Football.

Before you blast me about the Texans should have played well enough to win period, I agree, but it should be a fair contest. Never was and if you cant admit that then you are just too angry at "insert person/coach/etc. here" to see the truth.

Gumble just went to commercial with the story line of the day, "Colts give Pagano heart warming, blah, blah, blah, they played hard for him, blah, blah, they overcame the odds, blah, blah, blah. B*ll****.

Bottom line Indy played well, made some big plays, but the momentum was stolen from the Texans.


Disgraceful for all involved.

Bolded the parts that some seem to have glossed over.

It's a common story line for the Colts vs Texans "rivalry" as far as the refs go. especially when played in Indy. Colts have been getting calls their way going back for all the years Manning played for them. On the "incomplete pass"/fumble, the refs didn't even look to see if it was a lateral/backward pass. Refs didn't make the Texans lose, but they didn't help either. Not that it matters, games over and bring on Cinci. :spin:

The Texans didn't play well enough to win, hell our O-line got manhandled by some backups inside. Schaub freaks out anytime an opposing player looks like he might get through. Foster is running on banana peels, when he is able to make it past the line of scrimmage. Throw in the defense not creating turn-overs, stupid penalties on both sides of the ball, and a lack of discipline pretty much means games will be lost.

klockWork
12-30-2012, 05:34 PM
Bottom line Indy played well, made some big plays, but the momentum was stolen from the Texans.


Disgraceful for all involved.

What momentum? Texans never had momentum so they never lost it to begin with. And blaming the refs for a lost is one thing, blaming the media is low and pitiful.