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EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:18 PM
Same formations, losing by 21 and please dont go 4 wide although we have seen time and time again that we can move the ball at will with 4 wide.

Then lets get the ball back down 35-7 and run 3 straight times. Kubiak lost us this game with his non creative play calling. Didnt we trade for a damn full back, SO put casey at TE and use or damn FB.

Folks the Texans now look like a joke, and i cant help but laugh. I love this team but what was displayed on the field tonight is what we have seen the last 4 games. The patriots defense is not good enough to hold us to 7 points. The texans held us to 7 points.

What a ****ing joke. Grow some balls kubiak

cdollaz
12-10-2012, 11:21 PM
Yep, we'd better secure home-field advantage, because if we have to go to NE again, it's gonna be a problem.

We've played pretty poorly for 4 games now. Maybe the rest of the league has just figured us out.

Also, Kubiak is a big p****.

dream_team
12-10-2012, 11:21 PM
Could it be possible Kubiak is up to something here? And thinking big picture? It does seem quite odd Kubiak was so stubborn with the run today despite constant single man coverage.

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:22 PM
Could it be possible Kubiak is up to something here? And thinking big picture? It does seem quite odd Kubiak was so stubborn with the run today despite constant single man coverage.

What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???

JVL713
12-10-2012, 11:24 PM
When you have a princess coaching your team, you're gonna play soft in big games like this.

The Medic01
12-10-2012, 11:25 PM
Yep, we'd better secure home-field advantage, because if we have to go to NE again, it's gonna be a problem.

We've played pretty poorly for 4 games now. Maybe the rest of the league has just figured us out.

Also, Kubiak is a big p****.

What the **** is wrong with you. Get outta here bandwagoner. What fan calls the coach of his 11-2 team a *****.

dream_team
12-10-2012, 11:26 PM
What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???

Just my way of giving hope that the Texans didn't honestly just get smashed today.

Who knows? Maybe the Pats will take us lightly if we play them again in our house. We also didn't give them an honest view of our offense today.

Yes, I'm an optimist.

Hookem Horns
12-10-2012, 11:26 PM
Yep, we'd better secure home-field advantage, because if we have to go to NE again, it's gonna be a problem.



Ain't gonna happen. There is NO way this team sweeps the Colts. The Vikings might spoil the party also.

The Pats won home field advantage tonight and it's very doubtful they are going to lose any of their last 3 games.

cdollaz
12-10-2012, 11:28 PM
What the **** is wrong with you. Get outta here bandwagoner. What fan calls the coach of his 11-2 team a *****.

Piss off, s h i t bird, I've been on this board much longer than you.

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:31 PM
Tell me i'm not seeing this, now that the back-ups are in we have our FB in and Casey at TE. Kubiak u are a moron.

cdollaz
12-10-2012, 11:35 PM
Kubiak u are a moron.

Get outta here bandwagoner. What fan calls the coach of his 11-2 team a moron?

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:39 PM
Get outta here bandwagoner. What fan calls the coach of his 11-2 team a moron?

HAHA everyone around here should know i am no bandwagoner. Tonight Kubiak was a moron, not saying he is all the time.

The match-ups and play calling on the offense was terrible. Did we think lining AJ up at FB and then sending him in motion every play would confuse the Patriots soft Defense ?? One on one on AJ all night and losing by 21 we still run against an 8 man front, but we have all seen what 4 wide does for our offense.

cdollaz
12-10-2012, 11:41 PM
HAHA everyone around here should know i am no bandwagoner. Tonight Kubiak was a moron, not saying he is all the time.



I'm with you. It was just a callback to some earlier silliness in this thread.

AMartin56
12-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Short open letter to the Texans: Thanks for embarrassing yourselves and your fan base on national television AGAIN. And ditch the juvenile letter jackets...unless you intend to look like a high school team every week.

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:45 PM
It just makes no sense. Can Kubiak really not adjust and adapt. Go 4 wide "IT WAS WORKING" spread them out. No lets do our same old boring formation and be uncreative with the play calling and run the ball 3 times. Way to show confidence in ur team.

The Medic01
12-10-2012, 11:46 PM
Piss off, s h i t bird, I've been on this board much longer than you.
Just hoping we could show some class here. Call him a moron or whatever. But *****. Really? Pathetic.

CretorFrigg
12-10-2012, 11:46 PM
I was praying like hell we could pull another Arizona game like a couple years ago, when we were down 21 in the first half and still managed to win.

That was the game AJ trucked 3 defenders to get to the end zone.

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:48 PM
I was praying like hell we could pull another Arizona game like a couple years ago, when we were down 21 in the first half and still managed to win.

That was the game AJ trucked 3 defenders to get to the end zone.

AJ cant truck any defenders if the ball is the hands of foster, forsett and tate though. Pats up 21 still throwing, we are down 21 and still running.

The Medic01
12-10-2012, 11:49 PM
I'm not denying that he had crappy play calling and obviously didn't get the team ready to play. Just wish people could turn down the insults.

EllisUnit
12-10-2012, 11:51 PM
I'm not denying that he had crappy play calling and obviously didn't get the team ready to play. Just wish people could turn down the insults.

I just called him a moron, not to bad, but i feel insulted as a fan at how they played tonight.

hradhak
12-10-2012, 11:53 PM
Could it be possible Kubiak is up to something here? And thinking big picture? It does seem quite odd Kubiak was so stubborn with the run today despite constant single man coverage.

I would like to think so, but to what end? We haven't wrapped it up yet. Kubiak went in with a gameplan that didn't work. I'm hoping that he uses this to figure out what plays are going to work if we face them again.

I think the players didn't execute either. Our O Line was porous. Receivers dropped passes. Schaub couldn't find open receivers underneath and instead threw into tight coverage. Kubes called it poorly, but our plays didn't execute when they had the chance.

The Medic01
12-10-2012, 11:53 PM
I just called him a moron, not to bad, but i feel insulted as a fan at how they played tonight.

This is directed at the other guy not you unit.

EllisUnit
12-11-2012, 12:06 AM
On the good note, prob the best news of the night. I am going to bed to dream about butterflies and rainbows in hopes kubiaks game plan dont creep into my sleep and bore me to death.

hradhak
12-11-2012, 12:10 AM
HAHA everyone around here should know i am no bandwagoner. Tonight Kubiak was a moron, not saying he is all the time.

The match-ups and play calling on the offense was terrible. Did we think lining AJ up at FB and then sending him in motion every play would confuse the Patriots soft Defense ?? One on one on AJ all night and losing by 21 we still run against an 8 man front, but we have all seen what 4 wide does for our offense.

That really puzzled me. I know we are down a TE, but AJ at the FB is not going to fool anyone. It bothers me that AJ was getting single coverage and we were targeting guys like Martin and Jean.

Also where was OD? He really didn't show up. We needed a big game from him considering Graham was out and the Pats don't cover well on TEs.

AMartin56
12-11-2012, 12:10 AM
Why do other teams so easily exploit mismatches while Kubiak has a better chance of seeing a unicorn then he does a defense's weakness?

BullNation4Life
12-11-2012, 12:12 AM
. Pats up 21 still throwing, we are down 21 and still running.

this^^^^ This all F'ing day. This is why I hate stubborn, gonna do it all my way coaching. Kubiak, for better or worse, is one of the most stubborn, egotistic coaches in the NFL. Will not deviate from a game plan, even when down 21.

Kubiak: "Down 21, well let me flip my little colorful sheet." "Ah yes I have great plays for being down 21....run left for no gain...run right for negative yards...throw a short 8 yard pass when you need 11..."

Still will not allow Schaub to audible out of plays. Oh he can change the run from left to right, but that is about it. Brady sees something, looks at his WR, BAM over the top for big gain. Why you ask, because of the coach...

11-2 is 11-2 but a leopard still doesn't change his spots...Even at 11-2....

EllisUnit
12-11-2012, 12:13 AM
That really puzzled me. I know we are down a TE, but AJ at the FB is not going to fool anyone. It bothers me that AJ was getting single coverage and we were targeting guys like Martin and Jean.

Also where was OD? He really didn't show up. We needed a big game from him considering Graham was out and the Pats don't cover well on TEs.

He was there but Schaub was busy throwing into double coverage or over throwing WRs to see O.D or Foster ide open in the flats. "When we were throwing"

Mr. Texan
12-11-2012, 12:18 AM
Why do other teams so easily exploit mismatches while Kubiak has a better chance of seeing a unicorn then he does a defense's weakness?

it's weird, in the jags and lions game when the texans were down and he saw that his offense was sluggish,he just said **** it and spread every thing out, went hurry up shotgun and the offense was moving down the field at a pace we haven't seen all year

yet tonight he kept running :wacko:

EllisUnit
12-11-2012, 12:19 AM
it's weird, in the jags and lions game when the texans were down and he saw that his offense was sluggish,he just said **** it and spread every thing out, went hurry up shotgun and the offense was moving down the field at a pace we haven't seen all year

yet tonight he kept running :wacko:

He gave up early, it was obvious, do u think the pats, or broncos would give up down 28 to start the 4th ??? Hell no

klockWork
12-11-2012, 12:20 AM
The game was over on the opening drive of the 2nd half when Kubiak insistence on establishing an enemic running game that resulted in a 3 & out in a 21-0 game. When was the last time in the history of football has a team rushing game ever help out on coming back from a 21-0 lead in the 2nd half. That tells me this team hung it up early. That has to be the only reason.

MEGA SWATT
12-11-2012, 12:21 AM
If we bounce back and destroy the colts like we bounced back and destroyed the ravens - that will help heal the wounds......

TimeKiller
12-11-2012, 12:21 AM
Yeah. This was really a Kubiak-outsmarting-Kubiak game. 3rd and 8? 5 yard pass. QB sneaks in garbage time. No bootlegs. Running Foster into run defense.


Actually, this was a Belichick outsmarting Kubiak game.

AMartin56
12-11-2012, 12:26 AM
Remember the games were Kareem Jackson was being picked on by the other team with ZERO mercy? Can anyone provide me an example where Kubiak has done this? The NFL is all about exploiting matchups and while we have some mega fancy x's and o's on offense we never seem to pick at a defense's scab...

BullNation4Life
12-11-2012, 12:26 AM
If we bounce back and destroy the colts like we bounced back and destroyed the ravens - that will help heal the wounds......

That wins the AFC South, doesn't it?

Rey
12-11-2012, 12:32 AM
it's weird, in the jags and lions game when the texans were down and he saw that his offense was sluggish,he just said **** it and spread every thing out, went hurry up shotgun and the offense was moving down the field at a pace we haven't seen all year

yet tonight he kept running :wacko:

Kubiak was intimidated.

Kinda like fonzi in the waterboy.

BullNation4Life
12-11-2012, 12:51 AM
Kubiak was intimidated.

Kinda like fonzi in the waterboy.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/002/029/842/henrywinklercoachklein_display_image.jpg?133177582 1

Kubiak: "Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh. Come on. Come here. Come here. Come on.
Come on, everybody. All right, this is it. This is the play...

The quarterback. Two receivers lined up to the left, one to the right. There's a flanker lined up to the left behind the quarterback. h, okay.

He gives the ball... No, he doesn't get the ball.

The receiver goes all the way over there to the left. Once the quarterback has the ball, he fakes to the left. No. He fakes to the right. He doesn't fake.

He thinks about faking. He pretends to fake....

I don't know where I am. I can't breathe. This room is getting smaller.

I have to sit down....."

midway
12-11-2012, 12:58 AM
Kubes ****ing gave up at halftime. He gave up as soon as it was 21-0. He's a horrid coach.

midway
12-11-2012, 12:59 AM
That wins the AFC South, doesn't it?

Yes, if we win this week against the colts we clinch the division. If we win and denver loses then we clinch a bye also.

Edit: Took out any mention of NE since they just beat us. **** this loss.

Big Lou
12-11-2012, 01:04 AM
I was praying like hell we could pull another Arizona game like a couple years ago, when we were down 21 in the first half and still managed to win.

That was the game AJ trucked 3 defenders to get to the end zone.

Actually we lost that game I was there.

Premier
12-11-2012, 01:21 AM
Remember the games were Kareem Jackson was being picked on by the other team with ZERO mercy? Can anyone provide me an example where Kubiak has done this?

that would require kubiak to stray from his gameplan and thats not going to happen..

Premier
12-11-2012, 01:21 AM
Actually we lost that game I was there.

yup, matt schaub threw a pick 6 that wrapped that game up..

midway
12-11-2012, 01:22 AM
Remember the games were Kareem Jackson was being picked on by the other team with ZERO mercy? Can anyone provide me an example where Kubiak has done this? The NFL is all about exploiting matchups and while we have some mega fancy x's and o's on offense we never seem to pick at a defense's scab...


Picking on a rookie corner isn't on the menu.

The Third Man
12-11-2012, 01:44 AM
Let's look at this thing from Kubiak's perspective. I know everybody thinks he's an idiot after games like this, but I can see some reasons why he went ultra conservative. The offensive line is banged up and the Patriots started getting to Schaub and that's when he probably started thinking big picture. The Texans still control their own destiny as far as gaining home field advantage, all of the remaining games are winnable, the Patriots still have to play the 49ers (who are suddenly in a dog fight vs. the Seahawks) and the offense just wasn't in synch all night. Why risk Schaub getting hurt when the team still has a plausible shot at a Super Bowl even after a blow out loss?

C Madd
12-11-2012, 01:54 AM
Piss off, s h i t bird, I've been on this board much longer than you.

Does it take seniority to call someone out for making a ridiculous statement? If so, I'm going to go ahead and do that now.

kingdee09
12-11-2012, 02:46 AM
Let's look at this thing from Kubiak's perspective. I know everybody thinks he's an idiot after games like this, but I can see some reasons why he went ultra conservative. The offensive line is banged up and the Patriots started getting to Schaub and that's when he probably started thinking big picture. The Texans still control their own destiny as far as gaining home field advantage, all of the remaining games are winnable, the Patriots still have to play the 49ers (who are suddenly in a dog fight vs. the Seahawks) and the offense just wasn't in synch all night. Why risk Schaub getting hurt when the team still has a plausible shot at a Super Bowl even after a blow out loss?
I hate the fact that Kubiak quit early, but I agree with you. He doesn't want to risk Schaub, BUT what about the possibility of not showing NE coaching staff everything you have offensively, obviously because the game is out of reach and because you will meet them again in the post-season? Or am I just dreaming? With that being said, I could care less what the nation thinks of Houston. Texans are making a run to lock down home field while the rest of the NFL is thinking about the draft or battling for a spot in the wild card. I'm not pleased with tonight, but I like the Texans chances for rest of the season. They have to put this loss behind them though. We just need to keep running #44! That man is hungry!

DX-TEX
12-11-2012, 02:51 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/44713/texans-get-a-lesson-in-what-it-takes

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/44713/texans-get-a-lesson-in-what-it-takes


Down four touchdowns at the start of the fourth quarter, coach Gary Kubiak surrendered. His offense didn’t hurry, huddling at its regular pace. Schaub handed the ball off to third-string running back Ben Tate until it was time to punt.

Players stopped short of calling it a white flag, but receiver Andre Johnson and left tackle Duane Brown didn’t love it. They shouldn’t have. It sends a team a bad message to give up at that point. At least go down slinging it.

“I have no control over that,” Johnson said.

“I just line up and do my job,” Brown said.

Schaub pointed to the short week ahead and a crucial game against Indianapolis as a reason for letting up.



Texans discontent with Kubiak playcalling? Schaub being Gary Jr and sounding just like his coach. You quit dumbass! You flat out quit!

midway
12-11-2012, 02:54 AM
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/44713/texans-get-a-lesson-in-what-it-takes

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/44713/texans-get-a-lesson-in-what-it-takes




Texans discontent with Kubiak playcalling? Schaub being Gary Jr and sounding just like his coach. You quit dumbass! You flat out quit!

It doesn't sound like Schaub was happy with that, but he wasn't going to throw Gary under the bus.

DX-TEX
12-11-2012, 02:58 AM
It doesn't sound like Schaub was happy with that, but he wasn't going to throw Gary under the bus.

Of course not. Respect your father, master, idol....whatever Kubiak Jrs relationship is to his daddy

HJam72
12-11-2012, 07:17 AM
I don't believe Kubiak was worrying about Schaub's health or the short week or who another team has to play the next 3 weeks. I'd like to believe that, but I just don't. I think Kubiak had a game-plan, and he was going to stick with that game-plan if we were down by 300 points. We're going to get into the AFC Championship against Brady or Manning and he's going to pull this crap again. Just watch. No more reasons for worrying about Schaub's health or who somebody else has to play or short weeks.................and he'll still pull the same crap...

It's like he absolutely refuses to make in-game decisions. I've already decided how this game will go and I'm going to call it that way. :rake:

Grams
12-11-2012, 07:25 AM
The good news is the Pats don't lose to the same team twice in a season.
They don't lose at home in Dec.

I would rather lose a game now.

Win what we need for home field advantage in the playoffs and make them come here in Jan. They hate our field.

I would hate to be Indy next Sunday....remember the Baltimore game??

cdollaz
12-11-2012, 08:20 AM
Does it take seniority to call someone out for making a ridiculous statement? If so, I'm going to go ahead and do that now.

I noted seniority to highlight the absurdity of being called a bandwagoner by someone who has been on this board for barely a year. You know, right when the Texans started to matter.

I would assume you can comprehend the validity of my statement.

Surreal McCoy
12-11-2012, 09:06 AM
I would hate to be Indy next Sunday....

Out of curiosity, why? They have the two things we consistently struggle with, a good spread offense, and a mobile QB. I can easily see this game going their way.

EllisUnit
12-11-2012, 09:11 AM
Out of curiosity, why? They have the two things we consistently struggle with, a good spread offense, and a mobile QB. I can easily see this game going their way.

We have a good spread offense that no defense will ever get to struggle with :mariopalm:

TexanBacker93
12-11-2012, 09:33 AM
What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???

What good could come out of "throwing" the game ???

If the Texans won the game they'd have pretty much secured HFA.

The loss would have dropped the Patriots to the 4th seed with a 9-4 record.

Broncos 10-3
Ravens 9-4 (beat the Pats)
Pats 9-4.

Week 15 - The Broncos go to Baltimore and the Pats host SF.
Week 16 - Pats at Jags, Ravens host the Giants, Browns at Denver.
Week 17 - Mia at Pats, Ravens at Cincy, KC at Denver.

If the Broncos win in Baltimore they'll probably win out and keep the #2 seed. IF the Broncos looked to be in that situation I think NE would rest guys and take the 4th seed. If I'm them I'd rather play in Houston in the Divisional round against an inexperienced team with a QB that hasn't played in the playoffs rather than have the 3rd seed and go play in Denver against Manning. This would mean Houston would play NE and Den (provided they win at home against Baltimore or a Wild Card team that beat Baltimore).

With a Pats win, though. The Texans keep the top seed, but everyone else moves around.

Pats 10-3 (beat Den)
Den 10-3
Bal 9-4

In this scenario even when Denver wins out the Patriots keep the #2 seed if they win out and they could.


I'm not suggesting a conspiracy, but....a loss did help us set up a more favorable playoff run. Provided we win out.