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Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 08:27 PM
This is the Packers game 2.0

Mental error after mental error and self inflicted wounds. The opposition is beating them and they're also killing themselves. I'm becoming extremely worried about Kubiak's ability to prepare his team for big games against elite competition.

silvrhand
12-10-2012, 08:28 PM
turned it off or else I'm going to new a new TV.

BullBlitz
12-10-2012, 08:32 PM
This is the Packers game 2.0

Mental error after mental error and self inflicted wounds. The opposition is beating them and they're also killing themselves. I'm becoming extremely worried about Kubiak's ability to prepare his team for big games against elite competition.

They just aren't ready for the better teams.

eriadoc
12-10-2012, 08:32 PM
This is the Packers game 2.0

Mental error after mental error and self inflicted wounds. The opposition is beating them and they're also killing themselves. I'm becoming extremely worried about Kubiak's ability to prepare his team for big games against elite competition.

Just now, huh?

Trap_Star
12-10-2012, 08:32 PM
Paper champs with glass jaw

AMartin56
12-10-2012, 08:36 PM
Bad things happen when you get out coached. They are killing us by exploiting match ups while we continue to run against eight in the box...

Mr. Texan
12-10-2012, 08:36 PM
at least they look good against the mark sanchez, jake lockers, ryan tanehill, and ryan fitzpatricks of the nfl

ATXtexanfan
12-10-2012, 08:54 PM
This is the Packers game 2.0

Mental error after mental error and self inflicted wounds. The opposition is beating them and they're also killing themselves. I'm becoming extremely worried about Kubiak's ability to prepare his team for big games against elite competition.

Don't match up with elite O, spread us out and tear us apart. Then our O can't keep up. Denver or NE in playoffs is a bad matchup

Tailgate
12-10-2012, 08:58 PM
We have to win out now. If we do, we will get a rematch at home. That game will be all that matters.

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Don't match up with elite O, spread us out and tear us apart. Then our O can't keep up. Denver or NE in playoffs is a bad matchup

This goes way beyond a "matchup problem". The Texans are crapping the bed and are doing a fantastic job killing themselves. This is a snowball game.

AMartin56
12-10-2012, 09:01 PM
We had a better team last year other than Schaub going down. I'm starting to wonder if it will take another year to replace our cap casualties from this past off season and get our young receivers going.

Fili
12-10-2012, 09:07 PM
This is all on coaching. We can't put LBs on Aaron Hernandez. That's common sense... Man coverage does NOT work against elite QBs unless we can get pressure and sacks. So far no sacks. Too dependent on JJ Watt. Schaub needs to settle down and throw some to Daniels. Run game looked good first two runs but now we are getting nothing. Pass and run protection is not showing up. Defense has stepped a little in getting those punts but the offense needs to take advantage. Fresh half, if the Pats can score 21 in a half we can score just as much.

Surreal McCoy
12-10-2012, 09:08 PM
We have to win out now. If we do, we will get a rematch at home. That game will be all that matters.

Not being funny, but do you really think we'll beat the Colts? Either home or away?

ATXtexanfan
12-10-2012, 09:12 PM
Not being funny, but do you really think we'll beat the Colts? Either home or away?

I'll keep my money off the table

DaTruthExplodes
12-10-2012, 09:12 PM
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.
2nd and long run the ball.


nothing has changed with kubiak and schaub.

NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


kubiak and schaub will never be ready for prime time because they are not prime time players at their position.

eriadoc
12-10-2012, 09:15 PM
This is all on coaching.

I'm shocked.

gafftop
12-10-2012, 09:16 PM
Matt is Matt not in the elite class of QBs.
Doesn't seem to perform in big games. Not a good sign for the playoffs.
Doesn't see field like Brady. Seems to get in his mind he is going to throw to a certain receiver and then stares him down.
No 2nd receiver doesn't help.

Belichick better coach than Kubiak but Brady sure helps.

We need to hope someone else beats the Pats in the playoffs for us.
Maybe this game will help us in the playoffs if we have the opportunity to meet again in the playoffs.

Hope we get out of the game healthy.

Hervoyel
12-10-2012, 09:17 PM
We had a better team last year other than Schaub going down. I'm starting to wonder if it will take another year to replace our cap casualties from this past off season and get our young receivers going.

I think we would have probably finished with a better record had Schaub not been injured but I doubt we get any closer to the Super Bowl with him than we did with Yates. Schaub just plays like crap in high-pressure big stage games and the playoffs are all high-pressure big stage games.

The postseason is where Schaub will fold like a cheap suit. I wonder how long it will take McNair to force Gary to go get a different QB? It only took him 4 years to realize that Gary was being overly loyal to his friend the DC.

GP
12-10-2012, 09:38 PM
We have to win out now. If we do, we will get a rematch at home. That game will be all that matters.

That's what I think is in the back of the minds of the entire team.

I think they had this idea that IF things went our way tonight, great. If not, let's not get devastated about it (Like I am right now). LOL.

Look! Kubiak swallowed his pride.

A RB who wants a new contract. What a sight!

Hervoyel
12-10-2012, 10:10 PM
We had a better team last year other than Schaub going down. I'm starting to wonder if it will take another year to replace our cap casualties from this past off season and get our young receivers going.

I think we would have probably finished with a better record had Schaub not been injured but I doubt we would have gotten any closer to the Super Bowl with him than we did with Yates. Schaub just plays like crap in high-pressure big stage games and the playoffs are all high-pressure big stage games.

The postseason is where Schaub will fold like a cheap suit. I wonder how long it will take McNair to force Gary to go get a different QB? It only took him 4 years to realize that Gary was being overly loyal to his friend the DC.

GlenRice
12-10-2012, 10:14 PM
More Matt shaub is not ready for prime time

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 10:14 PM
Lol.. Gruden just hit the nail on the head and even said it... it's coaching.

This loss is squarly on the coaching staff... one team ran a game plan designed around attacking the teeth of a team's strengths and the other team developed a game plan to ram it right up the rear of a team's weaknesses. Guess who got their ish pushed? :rolleyes: Gary should be ashamed. With that game plan this team never stood a chance.. even if they played their A game they still would've lost by double digits, the fact that they didn't is the reason why a double digit loss turned into a embarrasing blowout laugher.

Rey
12-10-2012, 10:20 PM
I don't know what to think...

I've always teetered on schaub as a top qb and maybe we can win in spite of kubiak...

But I'm doubting both those ideas right now.

But I do think if kubiak had a better qb he could do more with his offense.

Rey
12-10-2012, 10:22 PM
Can we once and for all put an end to this schaub as an elite qb non sense?

He's not elite. That much should be obvious.

Brisco_County
12-10-2012, 10:25 PM
75% coaching, 25% Schaub getting jittery.

Everyone at the bar was laughing every time I would call out the running play on 2nd or 3rd and long. It's so typical Kubiak. He does not know how to adjust a gameplan against a better coach.

ATXtexanfan
12-10-2012, 10:25 PM
I don't know what to think...

I've always teetered on schaub as a top qb and maybe we can win in spite of kubiak...

But I'm doubting both those ideas right now.

But I do think if kubiak had a better qb he could do more with his offense.

Take it easy with those words of wisdom. Schaub is more than capable, remember

ATXtexanfan
12-10-2012, 10:26 PM
Are the playoffs considered primetime?

DocBar
12-10-2012, 10:26 PM
The Texans aren't ready for prim time. Prim would've kicked their sissy asses tonote.

eriadoc
12-10-2012, 10:29 PM
Lol.. Gruden just hit the nail on the head and even said it... it's coaching.

This loss is squarly on the coaching staff... one team ran a game plan designed around attacking the teeth of a team's strengths and the other team developed a game plan to ram it right up the rear of a team's weaknesses. Guess who got their ish pushed? :rolleyes: Gary should be ashamed. With that game plan this team never stood a chance.. even if they player their A game they still would've lost by double digits, the fact that they didn't is the reason why a double digit loss turned into a embarrasing blowout laugher.

As a die hard Texans fan, I want my team to win a Super Bowl. Once I started to seriously doubt that Kubiak was the guy to get them there, I had a choice to make - pump sunshine about the coach, or make noise to get a new one. I'm still making noise to get a new one someday, because I just don't see him being the answer. One day, enough fans will come to realize the same. Until then, I'll just keep pointing it out like you have here.

Wolf6151
12-10-2012, 10:29 PM
For all the guys that want to know why we don't get the national respect that other teams get, this game is a classic example why.

ATXtexanfan
12-10-2012, 10:31 PM
For all the guys that want to know why we don't get the national respect that other teams get, this game is a classic example why.

Man put that on houstontexans.com , the chronicle etc

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 10:33 PM
Can we once and for all put an end to this schaub as an elite qb non sense?

He's not elite. That much should be obvious.

This game doesn't have crap to do with Schaub and nobody claimed he was a "elite QB".. even if he played like a "elite QB" Houston still would've lost. This game is strictly about coaching and what happened between Wednesday and Friday .

Hagar
12-10-2012, 10:33 PM
I'm the Gloomy Gus around here and y'all need to get off my turf!

To be realistic, this is all weaknesses we've already know about. The strength of our defense is the front seven and with Cushing and Reed out, we're not as effective. The defensive backfield is weak and its getting picked apart by an elite QB who is getting time to throw. The right side of our O'line is weak and became weaker when Caldwell went down. Jones is doing his best, but he's a rookie who's getting used by a pro-bowl veteran. We don't have a true second wide receiver.

There's nothing in the previous paragraph that we didn't know going into this game. The difference is the Patriots are a very good team that can expose all these weaknesses at once. That's why they are Super Bowl Champions.

We've taken a step forward from last year already but there is still more we can accomplish this year. Bring on the Colts and lets take our frustration out on them.

BullNation4Life
12-10-2012, 10:41 PM
I think we would have probably finished with a better record had Schaub not been injured but I doubt we get any closer to the Super Bowl with him than we did with Yates. Schaub just plays like crap in high-pressure big stage games and the playoffs are all high-pressure big stage games.

The postseason is where Schaub will fold like a cheap suit. I wonder how long it will take McNair to force Gary to go get a different QB? It only took him 4 years to realize that Gary was being overly loyal to his friend the DC.

Bob, force anybody out? Seriously? Do you not know whoe the head coach is of the Houston Texans? Incase you forgot, he is the guy who is 58-51 in 7 seasons and went 6-10 and still did not get fired.

Schaub will be this teams QB for the next 4 years...

Titans Sux 72
12-10-2012, 11:01 PM
Not being funny, but do you really think we'll beat the Colts? Either home or away?

Really?

Man what is that sound I hear?

Freaking bandwagoners jumping off the wagon!

When did a rookie QB turn into Tom Brady?

I hope you enjoyed that ride on the wagon. You can still return your #99 jersey with a receipt.

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 11:03 PM
Are the playoffs considered primetime?

Does Texan Bill grope the nearest stripper and chug his beer in times like this?

silentassassin
12-10-2012, 11:11 PM
Not being funny, but do you really think we'll beat the Colts? Either home or away?

Yes.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say the two losses this year were aberrations.

Comes down to one thing for me: You don't get penalized on third down and extend their drives, maybe those games are within reach.

DocBar
12-10-2012, 11:12 PM
Does Texan Bill grope the nearest stripper and chug his beer in times like this?Seriously? TB gropes however he can grope. Kinda like Harris. :kitten:

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:13 PM
Are the playoffs considered primetime?

Good question.

If so, then the Texans are pretty much ready for prime time based on last year playoffs.

Dawgnme
12-10-2012, 11:13 PM
You know its bad when you lose to a bunch of unknowns whose names the announcers can't even pronounce... and they laugh about it!

hradhak
12-10-2012, 11:15 PM
Yes.

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and say the two losses this year were aberrations.

Comes down to one thing for me: You don't get penalized on third down and extend their drives, maybe those games are within reach.

I really think the number one the scoreboard is more of a reflection of how a couple plays go the wrong way for you and you're in a huge hole. We made some stupid plays and if a fumble bounces back to KJ, this game would have been a lot different.

Nothing changes next week. Andrew Luck is not as good as Brady. Go in there and hit him and frustrate him, but don't get penalized on 3rd down.

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:21 PM
I really think the number one the scoreboard is more of a reflection of how a couple plays go the wrong way for you and you're in a huge hole. We made some stupid plays and if a fumble bounces back to KJ, this game would have been a lot different.

Nothing changes next week. Andrew Luck is not as good as Brady. Go in there and hit him and frustrate him, but don't get penalized on 3rd down.

I feel the same way. Probably why I still believe this team is elite. Maybe the QB is not elite but I've always felt like our elite players were just at other positions.

If Kareem recovers a simple fumble, that P.I call is not called then I do feel like this is a different game. The defense held up for a long time after that, but it's hard to get motivated as a defensive player when your offense isn't moving. Eventually they were just going to fold. Always happens when a offense can't score sometimes it seems like the defense just loses motivation.

The defense held in there for a while. Had it not been for those two unlucky plays then who knows?

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 11:22 PM
Good question.

If so, then the Texans are pretty much ready for prime time based on last year playoffs.

"Based on last year's playoffs".. How much can you really base on last year's playoffs? Their only win came against a rook and when they had to step up in competition they shot themselves in the foot... sound familar? If anything last year's playoffs has been a precurser to what we've seen this season. Feast on the bottom feeders and have a inability to get out of own way against vet talent. This team is way beyond judging ourselfs against up and coming wild card caliber teams. We need to start K.O.ing teams in our own weight class if we want to win a chip and tonight we got a weggie and locked inside our locker left to beg for the custodian to walk by.

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:25 PM
"Based on last year's playoffs".. How much can you really base on last year's playoffs? Their only win came against a rook and when they had to step up in competition they shot themselves in the foot... sound familar? If anything last year's playoffs has been a precurser to what we've seen this season. Feast on the bottom feeders and have a inability to get out of own way against vet talent.

Not sure what game you are talking about?

They almost beat the Ravens. You make it sound like they were blown out and embarrassed when it was anything but. A few mistakes by a rookie 3rd string QB cost the Texans a trip to the AFCC game.

silentassassin
12-10-2012, 11:26 PM
I feel the same way. Probably why I still believe this team is elite. Maybe the QB is not elite but I've always felt like our elite players were just at other positions.

If Kareem recovers a simple fumble, that P.I call is not called then I do feel like this is a different game. The defense held up for a long time after that, but it's hard to get motivated as a defensive player when your offense isn't moving. Eventually they were just going to fold. Always happens when a offense can't score sometimes it seems like the defense just loses motivation.

The defense held in there for a while. Had it not been for those two unlucky plays then who knows?

Exactly, takes you back to the penalties against Green Bay. Both of those actually came on 4th down--Posey lining up offsides and Barwin leaping. Both of those drives eventually lead to touchdowns.

Tonight, they came on 3rd down. The early holding on Harris when they got a stop and the terrible PI call on Manning on the deep throw on 3rd and long.

I'm not saying these penalties are the SOLE reason they lost both of these games, but it's what you and hradhak alluded to. A couple plays here and there change the course of the game.

Then again, sometimes you just find a way to make those plays. Or in this case, avoid making stupid plays that cost you.

Tonight doesn't change the fact that this team is capable of winning its last three. It's a tough task, but I think they're more than capable of completing it.

TheMatrix31
12-10-2012, 11:27 PM
Tonight's loss was on coaching. Plain and simple.

Team wasn't focused, they made mistakes, they got down early and the Patriots never looked back.

Simple as that.

Rey
12-10-2012, 11:29 PM
I feel the same way. Probably why I still believe this team is elite. Maybe the QB is not elite but I've always felt like our elite players were just at other positions.

If Kareem recovers a simple fumble, that P.I call is not called then I do feel like this is a different game. The defense held up for a long time after that, but it's hard to get motivated as a defensive player when your offense isn't moving. Eventually they were just going to fold. Always happens when a offense can't score sometimes it seems like the defense just loses motivation.

The defense held in there for a while. Had it not been for those two unlucky plays then who knows?

Let's say Kareem recovers that fumble.

Then what?

Is our offense going to do what they failed to do at any meaningful point in the game? Go on a long TD scoring drive?

You can what if all you want to...i can just as easily what if about half of our games this year and make us 7-6...

But I won't because we won them. We made more plays and had more things go right.

Tonight, we got out asses kicked. Own that.

hradhak
12-10-2012, 11:32 PM
Let's say Kareem recovers that fumble.

Then what?

Is our offense going to do what they failed to do at any meaningful point in the game? Go on a long TD scoring drive?

You can what if all you want to...i can just as easily what if about half of our games this year and make us 7-6...

But I won't because we won them. We made more plays and had more things go right.

Tonight, we got out asses kicked. Own that.

There's no question we got our asses kicked. I think his point is still valid. We let the game slip away and then panicked. There's no question though that we have to play better. The refs are always gonna rob us a few times a game. Nonetheless, you gotta make plays. We didn't execute, but those little things early on set the tone for the game and we pretty much mailed it in at half time.

silentassassin
12-10-2012, 11:34 PM
There's no question we got our asses kicked. I think his point is still valid. We let the game slip away and then panicked. There's no question though that we have to play better. The refs are always gonna rob us a few times a game. Nonetheless, you gotta make plays. We didn't execute, but those little things early on set the tone for the game and we pretty much mailed it in at half time.

Exactly. I don't think any of us here are saying that if those plays don't happen, we win the game.

I think it's more like trying to highlight certain plays that dictated the way this game was going to go.

I believe it's also fair to say those few plays tell the story for the game too.

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:38 PM
Let's say Kareem recovers that fumble.

Then what?

Is our offense going to do what they failed to do at any meaningful point in the game? Go on a long TD scoring drive?

You can what if all you want to...i can just as easily what if about half of our games this year and make us 7-6...

But I won't because we won them. We made more plays and had more things go right.

Tonight, we got out asses kicked. Own that.

Well just earlier you were what-IFing away our wins so I am surprised.

I didn't say we deserved to win or anything, just that not even luck was on their side today. Those two plays (The TERRIBLE P.I Call and the Kareem Jackson fumble) made it 21-0 and that is pretty big.

I'm not going to fret too much about it though. 11-2, most of us would have taken this before the season.

midway
12-10-2012, 11:41 PM
Not being funny, but do you really think we'll beat the Colts? Either home or away?

I do. The colts have had the advantage of having a last place schedule. **** they've been outscored by 37 points. We aren't losing to them once, and definitely not twice.

silentassassin
12-10-2012, 11:42 PM
Well just earlier you were what-IFing away our wins so I am surprised.

I didn't say we deserved to win or anything, just that not even luck was on their side today. Those two plays (The TERRIBLE P.I Call and the Kareem Jackson fumble) made it 21-0 and that is pretty big.

I'm not going to fret too much about it though. 11-2, most of us would have taken this before the season.

Totally agree with you there, but in a moment like this it's understandable if we tend to ignore the bigger picture.

Hopefully we'll all begin worrying about Sunday instead of tonight's game soon. :glasshalffull:

Rey
12-10-2012, 11:42 PM
There's no question we got our asses kicked. I think his point is still valid. We let the game slip away and then panicked. There's no question though that we have to play better. The refs are always gonna rob us a few times a game. Nonetheless, you gotta make plays. We didn't execute, but those little things early on set the tone for the game and we pretty much mailed it in at half time.

Listen, if we are so fragile that a few bad plays early on in games is going to lead to an embarrassing blow out then we got what we deserved.

The texans took a safety on the first play if the broncos game. Teams have come out and had us reeling quite a few times this year actually.

1) that's a trend...a bad one

2) we do it to ourselves and we cant afford to do that against good teams

It'd be one thing if we lost a competitive game. But this is the second ass kicking by a top team with a top qb.

From every angle the texans look like pretenders.

And I don't buy into the what Ifs. Don't do it for wins and won't do it for losses.

MEGA SWATT
12-10-2012, 11:43 PM
Tonight's loss was on coaching. Plain and simple.

Team wasn't focused, they made mistakes, they got down early and the Patriots never looked back.

Simple as that.

The refs were kicking us in the nuts the first half of the game:turtle:

silentassassin
12-10-2012, 11:47 PM
Listen, if we are so fragile that a few bad plays early on in games is going to lead to an embarrassing blow out then we got what we deserved.

The texans took a safety on the first play if the broncos game. Teams have come out and had us reeling quite a few times this year actually.

1) that's a trend...a bad one

2) we do it to ourselves and we cant afford to do that against good teams

It'd be one thing if we lost a competitive game. But this is the second ass kicking by a top team with a top qb.

From every angle the texans look like pretenders.

And I don't buy into the what Ifs. Don't do it for wins and won't do it for losses.

Really? Because a loss in a competitive game still puts them in the same position they're in right now.

If they take care of business and there's a rematch, they'll meet under much different circumstances(hopefully).

And again, I don't think they were pointing those out as "what-ifs" to justify that they could've won the game. I saw it more as trying to identify what went wrong.

But I certainly agree with the two points you listed.

Rey
12-10-2012, 11:47 PM
Well just earlier you were what-IFing away our wins so I am surprised.

I didn't say we deserved to win or anything, just that not even luck was on their side today. Those two plays (The TERRIBLE P.I Call and the Kareem Jackson fumble) made it 21-0 and that is pretty big.

I'm not going to fret too much about it though. 11-2, most of us would have taken this before the season.

I never what if'd a win.

What I said is that in those wins there were signs of deficiencies we had.

And besides that, weve had some narrow margins of victory.

You can't what if away this kind of ass kicking.

There is no bright side. No saving grace.

Pathetic showing tonight from the top down. Period.

Carr Bombed
12-10-2012, 11:49 PM
Not sure what game you are talking about?

They almost beat the Ravens. You make it sound like they were blown out and embarrassed when it was anything but. A few mistakes by a rookie 3rd string QB cost the Texans a trip to the AFCC game.

Actually I'm almost positive that you knew the EXACT game that I was talking about, because you just referenced it without me even saying what game it was.

I also didn't say anything about that Ravens loss being embarrased and didn't say anything about being blown out

I in your words "made it sound" like they bit it.. and the did in that game. We gave that game away through some of the same self inflicted wounds we saw today.. your point is?

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:53 PM
I never what if'd a win.

What I said is that in those wins there were signs of deficiencies we had.

And besides that, weve had some narrow margins of victory.

You can't what if away this kind of ass kicking.

There is no bright side. No saving grace.

Pathetic showing tonight from the top down. Period.

There is little bright side to this loss, we'd all agree on that.

There are chinks in the armor. Lack of pass rush, run game looks bad at times, secondary hobbled...but every single team has chinks in their armor.

They still have two losses and still in position to have a memorable season.

fiasco west
12-10-2012, 11:57 PM
Actually I'm almost positive that you knew the EXACT game that I was talking about, because you just referenced it without me even saying what game it was.

I also didn't say anything about being embarrased and didn't say anything about being blown out.

I in your words "made it sound" like they bit it.. and the did in that game. We gave that game away through some of the same self inflicted wounds we saw today.. your point is?

My point is that game (The Ravens playoff game) was and is NOTHING like today's game.

One game they showed heart, fight, and came out to compete. Mistakes by Jacoby and a rookie 3rd string QB cost them the game.

Tonight was NOTHING like that game. To even reference that game and this one is to kinda imply that they wet the bed all the same. They did not, they just lost to the better more experienced team last year...tonight they were embarrassed and kicked off the field.

Rey
12-10-2012, 11:57 PM
Really? Because a loss in a competitive game still puts them in the same position they're in right now.

If they take care of business and there's a rematch, they'll meet under much different circumstances(hopefully).

And again, I don't think they were pointing those out as "what-ifs" to justify that they could've won the game. I saw it more as trying to identify what went wrong.

But I certainly agree with the two points you listed.

No a loss in a competitive game means we are closer to being competitive with top teams.

If you get into a fight and you get your teeth knocked into your ass that's a loss right?

If you get into a fight and it's competitive, but you still probably lost because...well the guy landed a few more shots and you're a little bit more bloody than he is...

Which person are you going to be more confident against next time?

The guy who you had a good tussle with or the guy you couldn't touch once and he knocked your face inside out?

I'm not a player on that team. All I can do is voice my displeasure and observe what I see. And what I saw was a team that was outclassed for the second time this year against an upper echelon franchise.

Can they come back and beat then in the play offs? Sure. That's why I'll be watching...because anything can happen...

But am I confident that they'll take it to the pats if they meet again...fvk no...

If you guys are...good. I'm not. I've seen them play all year and ive seen schaub and kubiak since they've been here. I think I know how this one ends, but I'll hope for the best.

silentassassin
12-11-2012, 12:06 AM
No a loss in a competitive game means we are closer to being competitive with top teams.

If you get into a fight and you get your teeth knocked into your ass that's a loss right?

If you get into a fight and it's competitive, but you still probably lost because...well the guy landed a few more shots and you're a little bit more bloody than he is...

Which person are you going to be more confident against next time?

The guy who you had a good tussle with or the guy you couldn't touch once and he knocked your face inside out?

I'm not a player on that team. All I can do is voice my displeasure and observe what I see. And what I saw was a team that was outclassed for the second time this year against an upper echelon franchise.

Can they come back and beat then in the play offs? Sure. That's why I'll be watching...because anything can happen...

But am I confident that they'll take it to the pats if they meet again...fvk no...

If you guys are...good. I'm not. I've seen them play all year and ive seen schaub and kubiak since they've been here. I think I know how this one ends, but I'll hope for the best.

Yeah I get your point. But I get the feeling a loss in any form would call into question this team and coaching staff's competence against the cream of the crop by most on the board.

And yes, I've been watching this team since it's inception as well. I guess I just have more blind faith and am more of a masochist than you are. :choke:

Rey
12-11-2012, 12:11 AM
Yeah I get your point. But I get the feeling a loss in any form would call into question this team and coaching staff's competence against the cream of the crop by most on the board.

And yes, I've been watching this team since it's inception as well. I guess I just have more blind faith and am more of a masochist than you are. :choke:

It's all good...

I did post before the game that how we played was going to be very important though and not really a win or a loss...

I won't say we won't or can't win the superbowl, but if I had to put money on it id bet no...because unlike the texans tonight, I like to win....

Zing. :)

Textan
12-11-2012, 12:24 AM
Yeah I get your point. But I get the feeling a loss in any form would call into question this team and coaching staff's competence against the cream of the crop by most on the board.

And yes, I've been watching this team since it's inception as well. I guess I just have more blind faith and am more of a masochist than you are. :choke:
Yes you are,:cutthroat: but I appreciate your positivity.
Seriously, I see nothing positive out of this loss and the one against Green Bay. Both showed the Texans are lacking when facing an elite team.
A competitive loss, where your team's somewhat in the game, I can live with.
But a flat out embarrassing azz whoopin, where your team looks like the B string junior high team, eats me alive.

Titans Sux 72
12-11-2012, 12:47 AM
My point is that game (The Ravens playoff game) was and is NOTHING like today's game.

One game they showed heart, fight, and came out to compete. Mistakes by Jacoby and a rookie 3rd string QB cost them the game.

Tonight was NOTHING like that game. To even reference that game and this one is to kinda imply that they wet the bed all the same. They did not, they just lost to the better more experienced team last year...tonight they were embarrassed and kicked off the field.

Very well said!

Just let all the band wagon fans jump and hang themselves.

True colors are starting to show.

Now proceed to Academy and get a refund for your Watt jersey.

Carr Bombed
12-11-2012, 10:51 AM
My point is that game (The Ravens playoff game) was and is NOTHING like today's game.

One game they showed heart, fight, and came out to compete. Mistakes by Jacoby and a rookie 3rd string QB cost them the game.

Tonight was NOTHING like that game. To even reference that game and this one is to kinda imply that they wet the bed all the same. They did not, they just lost to the better more experienced team last year...tonight they were embarrassed and kicked off the field.

Mistakes cost them a chance to win against the Ravens.. self inflicted wounds cost them a chance to win against the Ravens. The score doesn't even matter and the only reason why you say they "played with heart" is because the Ravens aren't that great and can't capitalize on mistakes like the Pats can. The reoccuring theme here is when this team has to step up in competition.. they bite the bit.

Carr Bombed
12-11-2012, 10:58 AM
Very well said!

Just let all the band wagon fans jump and hang themselves.

True colors are starting to show.

Now proceed to Academy and get a refund for your Watt jersey.

I'm sorry, but give me a ____ing break. Are you trying to say that I'm a bandwagon fan? I've been here since the inception and there ARE NO BANDWAGON FANS ON THIS BOARD! Bandwagon fans may buy a ballcap or a jersey.. however they aren't so emotionally invested where they register on a message board and post for a decade. :rolleyes:

Speaking of bandwagon fans (if there is one here and if you want to fire that gun), that's weak coming from someone who joined this board during a season that was a franchise best. You're sitting in the back of this "bandwagon".. I've been riding shotgun since day one.

TheIronDuke
12-11-2012, 11:04 AM
I'm sorry, but give me a ____ing break. Are you trying to say that I'm a bandwagon fan? I've been here since the inception and there ARE NO BANDWAGON FANS ON THIS BOARD! Bandwagon fans may buy a ballcap or a jersey.. however they aren't so emotionally invested where they register on a message board and post for a decade. :rolleyes:

It's funny seeing the only people throwing the "bandwagon fan" label around are ones who have been posting here no more than a year.

Mr. Texan
12-11-2012, 11:09 AM
herp derp me sunshine pumping kool-aid drinking texans fan. me real texan fan herp derp

fiasco west
12-11-2012, 11:21 AM
Mistakes cost them a chance to win against the Ravens.. self inflicted wounds cost them a chance to win against the Ravens. The score doesn't even matter and the only reason why you say they "played with heart" is because the Ravens aren't that great and can't capitalize on mistakes like the Pats can. The reoccuring theme here is when this team has to step up in competition.. they bite the bit.

They didn't come out and fight that game? Well we just have to agree to disagree then, respect your opinion though.

I just give the Ravens some credit. Who got that INT? It was Ed Reed,he has been doing that all his life. The Jacoby mistake was just Jacoby, it really had nothing to do with the team. Why do we seem to forget that this team beat the Broncos, the Bears who were a elite team when we played them, and smacked the Ravens around when they were healthy?

Carr Bombed
12-11-2012, 11:22 AM
herp derp me sunshine pumping kool-aid drinking texans fan. me real texan fan herp derp

You got the herp? I hear they have medicine for that, but sadly there is no cure. :)

silvrhand
12-11-2012, 11:24 AM
All I have to say is..

:vincepalm::vincepalm::vincepalm::vincepalm:

)(*@$*@#$98234098@()$$*@)#$(*@..

Carr Bombed
12-11-2012, 11:28 AM
They didn't come out and fight that game? Well we just have to agree to disagree then, respect your opinion though.

I just give the Ravens some credit. Who got that INT? It was Ed Reed,he has been doing that all his life. The Jacoby mistake was just Jacoby, it really had nothing to do with the team. Why do we seem to forget that this team beat the Broncos, the Bears who were a elite team when we played them, and smacked the Ravens around when they were healthy?

The Broncos were not this Broncos team when we played them.. atleast not the team we faced in the first 3 quarters. The team we saw in the 4th.. they've been that team the last 7-8 weeks. The Bears lost their QB against us and might miss the playoffs.. as well as the Ravens. And Jacoby on another team under another coach is the best kick returner in the league with Holliday right behind him.

fiasco west
12-11-2012, 11:39 AM
The Broncos were not this Broncos team when we played them.. atleast not the team we faced in the first 3 quarters. The team we saw in the 4th.. they've been that team the last 7-8 weeks. The Bears lost their QB against us and might miss the playoffs.. as well as the Ravens. And Jacoby on another team under another coach is the best kick returner in the league with Holliday right behind him.

The Broncos and Peyton actually played just fine before we saw them. We made them look worse than they were, and in the 4th they started to attack a zone and less aggressive defense. Still won the game though. Whether they will be better if we see them again is another question.

The bears lost one game then and everyone was talking about how their defense was just legendary. I remember that week well, all I could hear about was how amazing their defense was and how their defense could score more than some teams offenses. Cutler was taken out by our guys, hey and we've had some injuries too if we are going to start counting his injury as to whether our wins are quality or not.

Jacoby just dropped a punt. While I agree our special teams have not been great this season, the coaches have nothing to do when a player just drops a punt like that.

The1ApplePie
12-11-2012, 11:43 AM
“I know the team we play next week, it’s not the biggest game in their franchise’s history,” guard Logan Mankins said.

Double Barrel
12-11-2012, 12:01 PM
It's funny seeing the only people throwing the "bandwagon fan" label around are ones who have been posting here no more than a year.

I get a reject-from-the-main-board vibe about some of these chumps.

bckey
12-11-2012, 12:06 PM
I have to agree with Car Bombed here. When the Texans faced the Broncos (3rd week) Peyton was not yet back to his old self. He is now so we will see if the Texans face him in the playoffs.

I'll give you Chicago although I don't think they are a top tier team.

When the Texans played the Ravens they had lost Ray Lewis and Lardarius Webb. Pretty big losses.

And the rest of their wins:

Titans twice-they suck
Jaguars twice-they suck
Dolphins-they suck
Jets-they suck
Bills-they suck
Lions-they suck but do have Megatron

And of course they were blown out by a good team with a great qb Green Bay

The trend for the Texans seems to be as so many have mentioned is they struggle against teams with really good qbs.

TimeKiller
12-11-2012, 06:41 PM
I don't know what to think...

I've always teetered on schaub as a top qb and maybe we can win in spite of kubiak...

But I'm doubting both those ideas right now.

But I do think if kubiak had a better qb he could do more with his offense.

Yeah, it would definitely take John Elway to make that gameplan happen.

I don't quite know what kind of gameplan they had last night. Something like run Foster right at Wilfork. Limit the throws to OD and Casey and only target Andre more than 4 yards down the field.....

....speaking of 4 yards down the field, it's 3rd and 8 lol. Definitely need Manziel to hurry up and graduate. If Bob wants a bigtime QB, that's about the closest shot the Texans are going to have.

TheMatrix31
12-11-2012, 06:43 PM
I don't give a **** WHAT Peyton Manning was or wasn't "back to" in our Week 3 matchup. We were dominating that game and they grabbed a touchdown or two later in the game to make it seem closer than it was.

I don't give a **** about anybody OR their injuries anymore. Not after last year.

thunderkyss
12-12-2012, 12:50 PM
You're sitting in the back of this "bandwagon".. I've been riding shotgun since day one.

BULL PUckEY!!!


I thought I was riding shot-gun

toronto
12-12-2012, 01:09 PM
I understand the angst over losing in primetime to the Pats, especially with the playoffs in the horizon.

I am here to provide neutral perspective.

1) 11-2. That alone is worthy
2) Wins over Denver, Baltimore, Chicago and a gutsy win on MNF against the Jets after losing Cushing. I don't care how those wins came about. I see "Denver hadn't gelled yet." Baltimore isn't what they seem. Maybe its because your team had something to do with it.
3) If there is a rematch, it will, in all likelihood, be in your house. I for one hope you get it.

Every team usually has one forgettable game that either is the hiccup or bump in the road. You just had yours, and its better to have it now then in January when there is no do-overs.

drs23
12-12-2012, 04:09 PM
I do. The colts have had the advantage of having a last place schedule. **** they've been outscored by 37 points. We aren't losing to them once, and definitely not twice.

I'm not gonna count any chickens yet. Sure, they've had some breaks but having lucked into Luck they've got 4 or 5 come from behind wins.

That and the fact that we've yet to win one in their house. I sure hope that changes this year. It HAS to if we're going to get to where we all want to be.