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ThaShark316
12-03-2012, 02:48 PM
Mark Berman ‏@MarkBermanFox26

Texans CB Brice McCain suffered a broken foot yesterday and had surgery today.

Damn...

CretorFrigg
12-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Well, time for all of the CBs to step up. NEXT MAN UP!

TexanSam
12-03-2012, 02:50 PM
Well damn. That blows big time. Who replaces him? Move Quin back to corner and resign Troy Nolan?

LonerATO
12-03-2012, 02:51 PM
Some one on the offensive side of the ball.......

CloakNNNdagger
12-03-2012, 02:53 PM
Well damn. That blows big time. Who replaces him? Move Quin back to corner and resign Troy Nolan?

This wouldn't surprise me.

TheIronDuke
12-03-2012, 02:57 PM
I wouldn't mind seeing what Pleasant can do!

76Texan
12-03-2012, 02:59 PM
Well, time for all of the CBs to step up. NEXT MAN UP!

How long will he be out?

This late in the season, can we count on him to be back "effectively" in the play-offs?

I guess it's time for Harris to step up; it's not like McCain is having a great year anyway (not knocking him at all).

Maybe we'll see a little more Nickel than Dime now, especially with the Pats not having their premier TE in the line-up.

76Texan
12-03-2012, 03:01 PM
Well damn. That blows big time. Who replaces him? Move Quin back to corner and resign Troy Nolan?

That's a possibility, I think!

Dutchrudder
12-03-2012, 03:04 PM
How long will he be out?

This late in the season, can we count on him to be back "effectively" in the play-offs?

I guess it's time for Harris to step up; it's not like McCain is having a great year anyway (not knocking him at all).

Maybe we'll see a little more Nickel than Dime now, especially with the Pats not having their premier TE in the line-up.

Tania Ganguli of the Houston Chonicle just tweeted:

"CB Brice McCain had surgery this morning to repair his broken foot. He'll be out about 6 weeks, per a person familiar w/injury"

A first round bye would mean he could be ready for the first playoff game.

deucetx
12-03-2012, 03:05 PM
Well damn. That blows big time. Who replaces him? Move Quin back to corner and resign Troy Nolan?

Not a bad option. I would guess it depends on Jonathan Joseph's status and maybe Ball too. The good thing about the secondary is the flexibility because you have essentially two corners at safety. If Joseph is back then Quin or Manning could play the slot. It was Manning's speciality with the Bears before the final move to safety.

I would suspect though that Harris would get the nickle duties as he didn't look bad last game. Heh, in fact, he had the highest coverage rating on PFF for our secondary players last game surprisingly enough. But your suggestion would work as Demps could start and Nolan take over Demps previous duties while Quin held opposite of KJ. Really like the flexibility but I think Harris may be able to handle slot.

Then again...that is Wes Welker so that would be a heck of a step up for Harris. They do say it's best to just leap in the pool rather than dipping your toe in.

Exascor
12-03-2012, 03:05 PM
Tania Ganguli of the Houston Chonicle just tweeted:

"CB Brice McCain had surgery this morning to repair his broken foot. He'll be out about 6 weeks, per a person familiar w/injury"

A first round bye would mean he could be ready for the first playoff game.Damn...that's around the AFC Championship game.

Vinnie
12-03-2012, 03:07 PM
How long will he be out?

I guess it depends on what he broke. I broke a metatarsal when I was a freshman and I was in a cast for six weeks. After the cast was off I was full steam ahead.

CretorFrigg
12-03-2012, 03:09 PM
I guess it depends on what he broke. I broke a metatarsal when I was a freshman and I was in a cast for six weeks. After the cast was off I was full steam ahead.

That's encouraging. We could get him back when we need him the most.

Exascor
12-03-2012, 03:33 PM
McCain will be placed on IR with the designation to return. He'll be out until the Superbowl. <per Kubuiak presser>

Hervoyel
12-03-2012, 03:47 PM
Why would we move Quin back to corner and screw up our bitchin (yeah, I'm bringing it back) SS/FS combo? Just get Joseph back, Ball back, and everyone else step up. What in the hell was Brandon Harris drafted for if not for this exact situation?

alphajoker
12-03-2012, 03:49 PM
Looks like its time for Harris and Carmichael to step up. Harris did look fairly decent yesterday.

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 03:51 PM
McClain on twitter says Harris will move inside to replace McCain. Which means he will be on Welker alot.

CloakNNNdagger
12-03-2012, 03:58 PM
Tania Ganguli of the Houston Chonicle just tweeted:

"CB Brice McCain had surgery this morning to repair his broken foot. He'll be out about 6 weeks, per a person familiar w/injury"

A first round bye would mean he could be ready for the first playoff game.

It's difficult to try to figure out what PART of the foot was fractured (metatarsal vs toe), but most uncomplicated and undisplaced foot fractures can and are treated nonsurgically with a healing period anywhere from 4-6 weeks. If it is a displaced, multiple or comminuted (splintered) fracture, surgery is usually performed to stabilize with pins, screws or plates. Healing period can be considered possible as soon as 6 weeks, but not unusually 8 weeks or longer depending on the circumstances. We've seen some players come back from a lower leg fracture as soon as 6 weeks, but the stress placed on the leg is very much different than on a foot. And there is a matter of getting back into playing shape. I'm not sure how prepared he will be to jump up and down and push off with his foot even with a protective nonyielding orthotic he will likely be wearing. How all of this impacts and plays into a "desirable" return to effective play in 6 weeks is at best unpredictable.

srrono
12-03-2012, 04:01 PM
McClain on twitter says Harris will move inside to replace McCain. Which means he will be on Welker alot.

Ouch If you got Welker on your fantasy team starting him just might not suck lol Hopefully Welker catches a serious case dropanitous

Exascor
12-03-2012, 04:03 PM
It's difficult to try to figure out what PART of the foot was fractured (metatarsal vs toe), but most uncomplicated and undisplaced foot fractures can and are treated nonsurgically with a healing period anywhere from 4-6 weeks. If it is a displaced, multiple or comminuted (splintered) fracture, surgery is usually performed to stabilize with pins, screws or plates. Healing period can be considered possible as soon as 6 weeks, but not unusually 8 weeks or longer depending on the circumstances. We've seen some players come back from a lower leg fracture as soon as 6 weeks, but the stress placed on the leg is very much different than on a foot. And there is a matter of getting back into playing shape. I'm not sure how prepared he will be to jump up and down and push off with his foot even with a protective nonyielding orthotic he will likely be wearing. How all of this impacts and plays into a "desirable" return to effective play in 6 weeks is at best unpredictable.Kubiak said McCain had a screw put in his foot if that helps. =)

IDEXAN
12-03-2012, 04:15 PM
Anything come out on J-Joseph's return ?

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Anything come out on J-Joseph's return ?

Kubiak said both him and Ball were improving. Joseph had a "light practice" today.

Dutchrudder
12-03-2012, 04:24 PM
Kubiak said both him and Ball were improving. Joseph had a "light practice" today.

Gotta keep the Patriots guessing... :D

CloakNNNdagger
12-03-2012, 04:25 PM
Kubiak said McCain had a screw put in his foot if that helps. =)

For a single screw, one of the possibilities I entertained initially, now immediately comes to mind...........a "Jones Fracture"........a fracture of the 5th (outside) metatarsal. Very common athletic injury.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JvT_TBLAiow/TbnIsfSTIrI/AAAAAAAAABI/2m0bYSX4eN8/s1600/Jones_Fracture.jpg

Here's a very simple video (not bloody) that speaks to the repair, recovery, and "unpredictability" which I spoke of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1eoNLRAAWQ

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 05:19 PM
Not a bad option. I would guess it depends on Jonathan Joseph's status and maybe Ball too. The good thing about the secondary is the flexibility because you have essentially two corners at safety. If Joseph is back then Quin or Manning could play the slot. It was Manning's speciality with the Bears before the final move to safety.


I don't think we need to make any changes right off the bat. Signing Nolan makes sense, but he'll sit on the bench while Quin, Manning, & Demps hold down the safety spot.

We've still got enough CBs to field two starters & a nickel. Kj, Roc, Harris. The problem is if someone gets hurt.

Then you can move Quin to Corner & bring Shilo in as your joker. Or move Manning to CB & let Nolan spy.

rolyat93
12-03-2012, 06:45 PM
Let's sign Brian Dawkins.:koolaid::clown:

EllisUnit
12-03-2012, 07:29 PM
McClain on twitter says Harris will move inside to replace McCain. Which means he will be on Welker alot.

I liked what i saw from Harris, he needs to keep his hands off the WRs a little more, but i liked his speed and overall coverage, hell i think him and Roc looked good.

BUT that was against Locker, NOT BRADY :boogereater:

TEXANRED
12-03-2012, 07:31 PM
Well, time for all of the CBs to step up. NEXT MAN UP!

YEAH!

Time to see what Posey can do! :slapfight:

GregR
12-03-2012, 07:36 PM
Texans to work out CB Stanford Routt.

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 07:46 PM
I liked what i saw from Harris, he needs to keep his hands off the WRs a little more, but i liked his speed and overall coverage...

If I were a CB this year, I wouldn't know what to think. The refs have been very lenient with the PI all year long. It looks like they are letting them play the game the way it's supposed to be played.

Then out of nowhere there's a phantom call.... nowhere near as egregious as what they've been allowing.

So if I'm a hands on guy & they let me do what I do for 3 qtrs... I mean what's a guy supposed to do?

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 07:47 PM
Texans to work out CB Stanford Routt.

That's going to suck.

If you're Asomugha that is. He's going to be watching Jjo & Routt in the play-offs while he & the dream team.... dream.

CloakNNNdagger
12-03-2012, 08:21 PM
Texans to work out CB Stanford Routt.

Feb 2011, The Raiders gave him a 3 year 31 million dollar contract, but he renegotiated so the Raiders could keep him because the Raiders were having a real cap problem. In 15 games, he had 4 interceptions. The Chiefs picked him up and gave him a 20 million dollar 3 year deal this Feb. After missing his last game the end of October, he was released by the Chiefs with a hamstring injury. He had already accumulated 2 interceptions. KC's head coach was not specific in the reasons for the move other than saying the "relationship wasn't progressing as quickly and fast as I wanted it to." Sounds like some personality conflicts.

At 29, he sounds like he still has something in the tank........just ended up on the wrong teams. Could be a very interesting pickup. Remember, before Chris Johnson ran a Combine 4.24 40 (2008), Routt held the fastest run at 4.27 (2005)

TEXANRED
12-03-2012, 08:26 PM
For a single screw, one of the possibilities I entertained initially, now immediately comes to mind...........a "Jones Fracture"........a fracture of the 5th (outside) metatarsal. Very common athletic injury.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JvT_TBLAiow/TbnIsfSTIrI/AAAAAAAAABI/2m0bYSX4eN8/s1600/Jones_Fracture.jpg

Here's a very simple video (not bloody) that speaks to the repair, recovery, and "unpredictability" which I spoke of.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1eoNLRAAWQ

One day I am going to read one of your prognoses and it will read: Eh, I ain't too worried. He's fine.

PapaL
12-03-2012, 08:27 PM
I don't see why people are so quick to move Quin back to CB. He's doing better than anyone expected at Safety. Why weaken 2 positions?

Big Lou
12-22-2012, 09:04 PM
Any news on Brice's recovery?

Dutchrudder
12-23-2012, 02:13 AM
Any news on Brice's recovery?

In my own estimation, it looks like he got screwed.


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