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srrono
12-03-2012, 10:04 AM
If Phillips moves on to head coach? (Knock on wood) If Rex Ryan is fired. Is Rex to big personality for Kub here? I still think Rex is a great DC.

Texanmike02
12-03-2012, 10:06 AM
Um. Why did you post this? Did you just want to stand out? WTF? This is about 3 months too early.

I know that 2 years ago and before it was acceptable to have discussions like this in the regular season but when you're 11-1 you DON'T talk about this kind of stuff.


Mike

Corrosion
12-03-2012, 10:14 AM
Their secondary schemes are vastly different ... Wade runs signifantly more man where Rexy plays a lot more zone. Not so sure the Texans current DB's fit well into that scheme.

srrono
12-03-2012, 10:18 AM
Um. Why did you post this? Did you just want to stand out? WTF? This is about 3 months too early.

I know that 2 years ago and before it was acceptable to have discussions like this in the regular season but when you're 11-1 you DON'T talk about this kind of stuff.


Mike

No I don't want to stand out.
When you're 11-1 teams come a calling for your personal & coaches just because we don't talk about doesn't mean it don't happen.
It came up this weekend during the game and a buddy threw it out. Looking at the NFL landscape there will be a lot of head coaching jobs available. We all know Wade wants to be a Head Coach again.

srrono
12-03-2012, 10:19 AM
Their secondary schemes are vastly different ... Wade runs signifantly more man where Rexy plays a lot more zone. Not so sure the Texans current DB's fit well into that scheme.

Thanks i did not know this.

badboy
12-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Um. Why did you post this? Did you just want to stand out? WTF? This is about 3 months too early.

I know that 2 years ago and before it was acceptable to have discussions like this in the regular season but when you're 11-1 you DON'T talk about this kind of stuff.


MikeIt is a perfectly logical question. Throw some salt over your shoulder, avoid mirrors and black cats and allow others to post without your superstition.

To OP: I posted question a few weeks ago about Phillips maybe being offered a HC position after such as highly successful season and he will be offered. Many think Wade has come home to roost but he has said he thinks he can still be a HC. I am hoping McNair and Smith have a plan. I am not a Ryans fan.

Doppelganger
12-05-2012, 04:02 PM
If Phillips moves on to head coach? (Knock on wood) If Rex Ryan is fired. Is Rex to big personality for Kub here? I still think Rex is a great DC.

Rex may be a great DC, but the 3-4 he runs is extremely different than the one Wade runs.

Wade runs more of a hybrid 3-4 with 1 gaps. He expects the 3 downlineman to shoot the gaps. He uses man coverage nd expects his front 7 to harass the QB or upset the QB's timing.

Rex plays more a traditional massive space eating NG and relies on being a stout run stopping team. His DEs tend to be bigger and are primarily responsible for the clogging the lanes and batting down balls. Rex uses pressure from his LBs(all 4) and uses exotic schemes such as overloading one side or using multiple DB blitzes with LB dropping into coverage. Rex plays a ton of zone and typically excells when he can use a CB to completely cut off part of the field, like Revis. This allows him to send additional help to CB2 in the form of S1, S2, or a dropping ILB.

I don't think the players in the current scheme would fit the Rex Defense as well. For one, there isn't a space eating NG. Watt would be asked to focus on the run and not rush the QB as much, so he may be wasted in that scheme.

Hervoyel
12-05-2012, 04:26 PM
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amazing80
12-05-2012, 06:06 PM
I don't think Rex and his loud mouth would ever be welcome here

I also don't think Wade will be a HC ever again

If for some reason WADE leaves, I would consider Vance Joseph as DC, the way he has transformed our younger secondary players speaks volumes to me, he was just as successful in San Fran too

Playoffs
12-05-2012, 06:14 PM
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thunderkyss
12-05-2012, 06:22 PM
Their secondary schemes are vastly different ... Wade runs signifantly more man where Rexy plays a lot more zone. Not so sure the Texans current DB's fit well into that scheme.

The only DBs we've got that are suited to man over zone are Jjo & McCain. Harris & Kj are more zone corners, I think.

badboy
12-06-2012, 02:11 PM
The only DBs we've got that are suited to man over zone are Jjo & McCain. Harris & Kj are more zone corners, I think.I think with game experience both KJ and Harris will be better at man.

Perki-Perk
12-06-2012, 03:05 PM
For what it's worth, I heard J&R interview Phillips earlier this week and it sounds like he is going to stay here. He pretty much told them he isn't going anywhere unless they (Texans organization) get rid of him.

amazing80
12-06-2012, 04:29 PM
For what it's worth, I heard J&R interview Phillips earlier this week and it sounds like he is going to stay here. He pretty much told them he isn't going anywhere unless they (Texans organization) get rid of him.

Thats good to hear, he should just be our Dick Lebeau and be happy about it

The Pencil Neck
12-06-2012, 04:36 PM
For what it's worth, I heard J&R interview Phillips earlier this week and it sounds like he is going to stay here. He pretty much told them he isn't going anywhere unless they (Texans organization) get rid of him.

If that's true then I am a very happy person.

infantrycak
12-06-2012, 06:50 PM
If that's true then I am a very happy person.

I heard the interview and my interpretation was he would have to be offered something he considered an ideal situation. Stated a definite preference to stay in Texas.

ThaJokaa
12-06-2012, 07:14 PM
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Exactly, Why even bring this up now -___-

TheMatrix31
12-06-2012, 07:20 PM
Rex Ryan is disgustingly unlikeable. He's also not anywhere near the type of person McNair and Smith bring in.

Thorn
12-06-2012, 07:49 PM
Well, there is that shoe repair place on Westheimer.

thunderkyss
12-06-2012, 08:03 PM
Up & coming Defensive coordinators, who's out there?


Any DC candidates with ties to Houston?

eriadoc
12-06-2012, 08:33 PM
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srrono
12-06-2012, 09:43 PM
I don't think Rex and his loud mouth would ever be welcome here

I also don't think Wade will be a HC ever again

If for some reason WADE leaves, I would consider Vance Joseph as DC, the way he has transformed our younger secondary players speaks volumes to me, he was just as successful in San Fran too


At first glance I say this is a good idea. Then I think about Kubs bringing in other guys as 1st time DC's and it didn't work out. I'm thinking it would have to be some one with a strong track record.

thunderkyss
12-06-2012, 09:53 PM
I'd like to see Van Joseph take over another area of the defense, DL, LBs before he jumps to DC. Learn another position, excel at another position before he takes over the whole defense.

DocBar
12-06-2012, 11:37 PM
Dude, you almost made me speak in ebonics with all the curse words that ended up in a big, fat NO.

Exascor
12-07-2012, 12:36 PM
At first glance I say this is a good idea. Then I think about Kubs bringing in other guys as 1st time DC's and it didn't work out. I'm thinking it would have to be some one with a strong track record.First, I don't think Phillips is going anywhere. I also feel that Kubiak's biggest mistake was hiring the 2 rookie DCs. The difference between Smith & Bush vs anyone the Texans could promote if Wade retires is that the system is in place. They players know it & the coaches know it. Each year that Phillips stays just makes the inevitable transition when he retires easier. JMO.