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Tailgate
12-02-2012, 04:02 PM
24 hr rule my ass. I have never been more pumped up for a game than I am for this one on Monday night. Tom Brady, Belichick, on the road, national TV, December, best record, homefield ramifications... I mean who doesnt want to be in this position??

Lets get this!!!!

thunderkyss
12-02-2012, 05:45 PM
What's the line?

Tailgate
12-02-2012, 05:49 PM
If I had to guess... Opens at 4.5-5?

Hervoyel
12-02-2012, 07:42 PM
It's an interesting matchup. We're beat up defensively, they've got some key pieces out on their offense. We're 1-2 all-time against the Patriots for whatever that's worth. We lost to them back in the Capers era in OT the year they beat the Panthers in the Super Bowl here and Kubiak has gone 1-1 against them. We won here, they won there.

I've been looking at this date for weeks and thinking about playing the Patriots in New England. They're good but so are we. We get a lot of crap about not playing anybody but the Patriots feed on their division of crappy opponents just like every division leader. They talk a lot about how they're rolling so many points up on other teams but their recent win streak is against the Jets, Rams, Bills, Colts, Jets, and Dolphins.

I'm not going to say we will necessarily win this. I will say that we without any doubt can win this.

TheMatrix31
12-02-2012, 07:45 PM
Anyone who says we haven't played anyone is a ****ing moron, and quite frankly, they should have their freedom to comment on football matters stripped away from them.

TheRealJoker
12-02-2012, 07:53 PM
Next Monday Night the 11-1 Houston Texans are going to Gillette Stadium to face the 9-3 New England Patriots. Primetime.

Playing a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback that's at the top of his game. Jon Gruden in the booth calling it. JJ Watt with national spotlight against a top offense on the road in his defensive player of the year campaign. Matt Schaub ready to engage in a shootout with Tom freaking Brady.

If you can't get excited for this game you aren't a fan of FOOTBALL!!!

TexansFanatic
12-02-2012, 07:54 PM
Anyone who says we haven't played anyone is a ****ing moron, and quite frankly, they should have their freedom to comment on football matters stripped away from them.

http://stpaulscollege.ie/history/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/stalin2.jpg

Joseph agrees with you, comrade.

JMacaroni
12-02-2012, 08:03 PM
Next Monday Night the 11-1 Houston Texans are going to Gillette Stadium to face the 9-3 New England Patriots. Primetime.

Playing a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback that's at the top of his game. Jon Gruden in the booth calling it. JJ Watt with national spotlight against a top offense on the road in his defensive player of the year campaign. Matt Schaub ready to engage in a shootout with Tom freaking Brady.

If you can't get excited for this game you aren't a fan of FOOTBALL!!!

It's a game, not a nike commercial. Chill

thunderkyss
12-02-2012, 09:26 PM
It's an interesting matchup. We're beat up defensively, they've got some key pieces out on their offense.

We learned last year, no one is going to cry for us & our injuries. That's not going to change this year. I'm sure there is someone, somewhere marginalizing our 11-1 record right now & they'll marginalize our victory if we manage to defeat the Patriots next week.



I've been looking at this date for weeks and thinking about playing the Patriots in New England. They're good but so are we. We get a lot of crap about not playing anybody....

I think we're definitely going to learn something about our boys next Monday. So will the Patriots, so will the NFL.

I expect a fight to the end. Nothing less.

michaelm
12-02-2012, 09:48 PM
It's a game, not a nike commercial. Chill

Who the **** are you to tell people to chill when they express their opinion? Maybe you ought to make a few thousand more posts around here before you start telling people how they should act.

CloakNNNdagger
12-02-2012, 09:49 PM
Ponder is no Brady. If we don't notch up the play of both our offense and our defense (pass rush and secondary), Brady will run up the score and try to run away with total points that this week's offense won't be able to keep up with. Hope that this is not the case. Even if we get a healthy JJo back, it looks like we will have lost even more players to injury this week. Kubiak will need a more creative O play calling to keep us in the game and get us out of Monday without carrying our asses back to Houston. JMHO.

thunderkyss
12-02-2012, 10:20 PM
Ponder is no Brady. If we don't notch up the play of both our offense and our defense (pass rush and secondary), Brady will run up the score and try to run away with total points that this week's offense won't be able to keep up with. Hope that this is not the case. Even if we get a healthy JJo back, it looks like we will have lost even more players to injury this week. Kubiak will need a more creative O play calling to keep us in the game and get us out of Monday without carrying our asses back to Houston. JMHO.

That's why we need the OL & our RBs to step it up next week. We can't just win the T.O.P. we've got to dominate the T.O.P. If we can limit the Bradys to 3 or 4 possessions per half, get two or three stops.... we should win.

What we can't do is get into a shootout. down by 20 in the first half, run the ball. Down by 14 in the 3rd, run the ball. Keep it out of the hands of Tom Brady.

drs23
12-02-2012, 11:17 PM
It's an interesting matchup. We're beat up defensively, they've got some key pieces out on their offense. We're 1-2 all-time against the Patriots for whatever that's worth. We lost to them back in the Capers era in OT the year they beat the Panthers in the Super Bowl here and Kubiak has gone 1-1 against them. We won here, they won there.

I've been looking at this date for weeks and thinking about playing the Patriots in New England. They're good but so are we. We get a lot of crap about not playing anybody but the Patriots feed on their division of crappy opponents just like every division leader. They talk a lot about how they're rolling so many points up on other teams but their recent win streak is against the Jets, Rams, Bills, Colts, Jets, and Dolphins.

I'm not going to say we will necessarily win this. I will say that we without any doubt can win this.

A good, rational post. I can buy into that.

I think we can win as well. I think we can beat any team on any day on any field.

As far as the Pats on Monday night prime time I hope we don't get smoked. :yikes: If the team that played today shows up (our defense flying around like crazy) and we can track 4 quarters of Texan offense we can win.

Go Texans!

mussop
12-02-2012, 11:46 PM
Ponder is no Brady. If we don't notch up the play of both our offense and our defense (pass rush and secondary), Brady will run up the score and try to run away with total points that this week's offense won't be able to keep up with. Hope that this is not the case. Even if we get a healthy JJo back, it looks like we will have lost even more players to injury this week. Kubiak will need a more creative O play calling to keep us in the game and get us out of Monday without carrying our asses back to Houston. JMHO.

And NE's WR's aren't going to drop pass after pass either. NE and Denver are going to be our worst matchups in the playoffs. I hope we can somehow avoid both of them.

SAMURAITEXAN
12-02-2012, 11:49 PM
That's why we need the OL & our RBs to step it up next week. We can't just win the T.O.P. we've got to dominate the T.O.P. If we can limit the Bradys to 3 or 4 possessions per half, get two or three stops.... we should win.

What we can't do is get into a shootout. down by 20 in the first half, run the ball. Down by 14 in the 3rd, run the ball. Keep it out of the hands of Tom Brady.

Yep, I would like to see NE's O on sidelines much as possible. I do not want Brady bringing his A game to us. Establish running game early and worn out NE's D with our RB trios by keep rotating for a fresh pair of legs. Our OL need to stay strong and no stupid fouls please. Perhaps, an occasional short to mid range pass to keep NE's D off balance and a few long and safe pass to surprise them(If no chance to complete, just throw it away long where no one able to catch). But, basically run first O.

Go Texans!!!

TexansFanatic
12-03-2012, 12:32 AM
And NE's WR's aren't going to drop pass after pass either. NE and Denver are going to be our worst matchups in the playoffs. I hope we can somehow avoid both of them.

I don't think there's a snowball's chance in hell that both of those teams will be bounced before the AFC championship game.

TexansFanatic
12-03-2012, 12:48 AM
If I had to guess... Opens at 4.5-5?

Damn, were you really just guessing? Helluva guess.

It's New England minus 4.5.

Texn4life
12-03-2012, 01:27 AM
I honestly feel pretty good about this game for some reason. The Patriots haven't played a good offense in a long time. People have been talking about how well their defense has been performing, but the truth is they've just been benefactor of turnovers. The Colts offense moved the ball on the, but shot themselves in the foot.

If we can jump out to an early lead I like our chances. Stopping Hernandez is going to be tough though. That's the one matchup that is gonna give us fits. Something tells me the Texans were probably game planning some this week for the Pats in advance. I think we'll come out ready to play.

Corrosion
12-03-2012, 09:05 AM
Ponder is no Brady. If we don't notch up the play of both our offense and our defense (pass rush and secondary), Brady will run up the score and try to run away with total points that this week's offense won't be able to keep up with. Hope that this is not the case. Even if we get a healthy JJo back, it looks like we will have lost even more players to injury this week. Kubiak will need a more creative O play calling to keep us in the game and get us out of Monday without carrying our asses back to Houston. JMHO.

Thats a fact ... Ponder is no Brady but then again , what got Ponder going late , Brady cant do. He's not going to beat you with his legs. He's much like Schaub in that he's not often going to get out of the pocket other than on designed plays.

As for play calling by Kubiak , Im with you. If they expect to win this one , they are going to have to be a bit more creative than they have in past weeks.
I also dont believe that they can throttle it back if they get up a couple scores like they tend to do against the weaker teams. I know they dont want to show more than they are forced to , but they better come prepared to convers consistently on 3rd down , convert in the redzone and dominate the TOP.

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 09:16 AM
I know they dont want to show more than they are forced to , but they better come prepared to convert consistently on 3rd down , convert in the redzone and dominate the TOP.

Nothing to worry about. We've got Matt. He's clutch.

Big Lou
12-03-2012, 09:32 AM
Next Monday Night the 11-1 Houston Texans are going to Gillette Stadium to face the 9-3 New England Patriots. Primetime.

Playing a first ballot Hall of Fame quarterback that's at the top of his game. Jon Gruden in the booth calling it. JJ Watt with national spotlight against a top offense on the road in his defensive player of the year campaign. Matt Schaub ready to engage in a shootout with Tom freaking Brady.

If you can't get excited for this game you aren't a fan of FOOTBALL!!!

Ahhhh, sh*t!!!

I forgot about Chuckie, all we will hear about all night is Brady, Bady, Brady, Brady, Brady. "Ohhh Tom I love you, can I wash your jock strap, can I get you a gatorade. your the best, ohhh Tom". Guess I'll try to get 610 of the interwebs and get it synced up with the game.

gwallaia
12-03-2012, 09:34 AM
Good points made by everyone. For the Texans to have a chance in this game we are going to need Foster, Forsett and Tate to bring it. Rotate this guys out and keep them fresh as long as possible. Keep Brady on the sidelines as much as possible.

I would even like to see Foster and Tate lined up in the backfield in a split formation. That would be a nice wrinkle.

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 09:35 AM
Good points made by everyone. For the Texans to have a chance in this game we are going to need Foster, Forsett and Tate to bring it. Rotate this guys out and keep them fresh as long as possible. Keep Brady on the sidelines as much as possible.

I would even like to see Foster and Tate lined up in the backfield in a split formation. That would be a nice wrinkle.

Its definitely time to get Tate running over mfers again.

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 09:39 AM
Good points made by everyone. For the Texans to have a chance in this game we are going to need Foster, Forsett and Tate to bring it. Rotate this guys out and keep them fresh as long as possible. Keep Brady on the sidelines as much as possible.

I would even like to see Foster and Tate lined up in the backfield in a split formation. That would be a nice wrinkle.

Now for a reason we won't win.

Gary Kubiak.

If Gary Kubiak thinks this is an important game, a must win he's not going to rotate those guys like he should. He's going to stick with Foster. You'd think that should be a good plan. You'd think that ought to get us a win. & it might. But I think there is so much variety in the way those three guys run, that it helps us to mix it up. Foster & Tate at the least. But Forsett should also be part of the plan. Gary should go into the game thinking we're going to run it 45 times & split the carries accordingly.

Now, I know it's not a must win. You know it's not a must win. But we don't know what Kubiak thinks.

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 09:42 AM
Now for a reason we won't win.

Gary Kubiak.

If Gary Kubiak thinks this is an important game, a must win he's not going to rotate those guys like he should. He's going to stick with Foster. You'd think that should be a good plan. You'd think that ought to get us a win. & it might. But I think there is so much variety in the way those three guys run, that it helps us to mix it up. Foster & Tate at the least. But Forsett should also be part of the plan. Gary should go into the game thinking we're going to run it 45 times & split the carries accordingly.

Now, I know it's not a must win. You know it's not a must win. But we don't know what Kubiak thinks.

We will only see Forsett enter the game on obvious passing downs and thats when we will hand it off to him. :)

Trap_Star
12-03-2012, 09:55 AM
I was banned from the pat's fans board last night for starting a thread titled "JJ Watt..."

It said "....has a bigger, thicker penis than Tom Brady."

Lasted only 5 minutes...they be mad.

b0ng
12-03-2012, 09:58 AM
Best MNF match up this season.

BullNation4Life
12-03-2012, 10:05 AM
I was banned from the pat's fans board last night for starting a thread titled "JJ Watt..."

It said "....has a bigger, thicker penis than Tom Brady."

Lasted only 5 minutes...they be mad.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/no/when-people-are-arguing-and-try-to-pull-you-into-the-conversation.gif

HOU-TEX
12-03-2012, 10:07 AM
Good points made by everyone. For the Texans to have a chance in this game we are going to need Foster, Forsett and Tate to bring it. Rotate this guys out and keep them fresh as long as possible. Keep Brady on the sidelines as much as possible.

I would even like to see Foster and Tate lined up in the backfield in a split formation. That would be a nice wrinkle.

Agree 100% with the bolded. IMO, the only way we win is to run the heck out of the ball. It's not much different than a Manning led offense. Keep him on the sidelines and you have a chance.

The Pats will not drop balls that hit them in the hands. Their QB will not throw the ball behind his WRs. Nor will he shook up by a pass rush or defensive scheme.

disaacks3
12-03-2012, 10:25 AM
They will be a really tough test, but these aren't the unbeatable Pats from years' past. They beat the Fins by a touchdown, they've beat less teams with a wining record than we have, they'll likely be down Gronkowski.

I still give them an edge with how decimated our secondary is (gave me chills when Quin was talking about sending Posey on the field as a CB last night!), but if we can establish a running game, it'll be the Texans game to lose.

Hervoyel
12-03-2012, 10:30 AM
Good points made by everyone. For the Texans to have a chance in this game we are going to need Foster, Forsett and Tate to bring it. Rotate this guys out and keep them fresh as long as possible. Keep Brady on the sidelines as much as possible.

I would even like to see Foster and Tate lined up in the backfield in a split formation. That would be a nice wrinkle.

Now for a reason we won't win.

Gary Kubiak.

If Gary Kubiak thinks this is an important game, a must win he's not going to rotate those guys like he should. He's going to stick with Foster. You'd think that should be a good plan. You'd think that ought to get us a win. & it might. But I think there is so much variety in the way those three guys run, that it helps us to mix it up. Foster & Tate at the least. But Forsett should also be part of the plan. Gary should go into the game thinking we're going to run it 45 times & split the carries accordingly.

Now, I know it's not a must win. You know it's not a must win. But we don't know what Kubiak thinks.

No telling how Gary looks at this game. I think he'd like to be 1-0 this coming week just like seemingly every week. I think that keeping Foster in there if he's "on" and giving him the lion's share of the carries in this game is not a bad idea necessarily. It's going to be cold, most likely wet. The first guy who can demonstrate that he is capable of running effectively in that I think you run with and don't look back.

76Texan
12-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Somebody has the time to check out Wade's record against Belichick's Pats.

I know Belichick's has the upper hand but I don't think its's by much and Wade was "bouncing" around so he never really got the chance of the continuity in his defense against the Pats.

And I know some of the losses were close games, too.

And can somebody verify that Kubiak's Broncos were 4-2 against Belichik's Pats??!

All and all, I don't think we should worry about coaching.

MistaRed
12-03-2012, 11:31 AM
Somebody has the time to check out Wade's record against Belichick's Pats.

I know Belichick's has the upper hand but I don't think its's by much and Wade was "bouncing" around so he never really got the chance of the continuity in his defense against the Pats.

And I know some of the losses were close games, too.

And can somebody verify that Kubiak's Broncos were 4-2 against Belichik's Pats??!

All and all, I don't think we should worry about coaching.

Wade Phillips coached teams vs. Belichick' Pats:

Loss 48-27 vs. NE in 2007 regular season as HC of Dallas Cowboys
Win 41-17 At NE in 2005 regular season as DC of San Diego Chargers
Loss 24-21 AT NE in 2007 AFC Divisional playoffs as DC of San Diego
Win 16-13 At NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills
Loss 13-10 vs. NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills

Overall record of 2-3, 0-1 in playoff games

76Texan
12-03-2012, 11:45 AM
Wade Phillips coached teams vs. Belichick' Pats:

Loss 48-27 vs. NE in 2007 regular season as HC of Dallas Cowboys
Win 41-17 At NE in 2005 regular season as DC of San Diego Chargers
Loss 24-21 AT NE in 2007 AFC Divisional playoffs as DC of San Diego
Win 16-13 At NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills
Loss 13-10 vs. NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills

Overall record of 2-3, 0-1 in playoff games

Appreciate that.

Looks like it will be a fun game to watch.

MistaRed
12-03-2012, 11:45 AM
Kubiak's Broncos teams vs Belichick's pats:

Won 24-16 @ NE in 2002 Regular season as OC
Loss 30-26 vs. NE in 2003 Regular season as OC
Won 28-20 vs. NE in 2005 Regular season as OC
Won 27-13 vs. NE in 2006 AFC divisional playoffs as OC
Loss 28-19 vs. NE in 2000 Regular Season as OC/QB Coach
Won 31-20 vs. NE in 2001 Regular season as OC/QB Coach
Won 24-16 @ NE in 2002 Regular season as OC/QB Coach

Overall record of 5-2. 1-0 in playoff games

76Texan
12-03-2012, 11:51 AM
Wade Phillips coached teams vs. Belichick' Pats:

Loss 48-27 vs. NE in 2007 regular season as HC of Dallas Cowboys
Win 41-17 At NE in 2005 regular season as DC of San Diego Chargers
Loss 24-21 AT NE in 2007 AFC Divisional playoffs as DC of San Diego
Win 16-13 At NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills
Loss 13-10 vs. NE in 2000 regular season as HC of Buffalo Bills

Overall record of 2-3, 0-1 in playoff games

Hey, I think Wade also won one when Belichick was the HC of the Browns in 95 (his fifth year there.)

MistaRed
12-03-2012, 11:55 AM
Hey, I think Wade also won one when Belichick was the HC of the Browns in 95 (his fifth year there.)

He sure did. He won 22-19. So that improves Wade's record vs. Belichick to 3-3. Reason I didn't include that one is because you were asking for his record against Bill as HC of the Patriots.

Mailman
12-03-2012, 11:57 AM
Anyone who says we haven't played anyone is a ****ing moron, and quite frankly, they should have their freedom to comment on football matters stripped away from them.

Exactly! Wins ON THE ROAD against two playoff contenders in Denver and Chicago, and a complete asskicking at home against the Ravens. I am gobsmacked by all the talk lately about the Patriots being the most dominant team in the NFL and how tough they are to beat.

WRONG.

They are quite beatable because they simply aren't the complete team the Houston Texans field on Sundays. The script needs flipping. At 11-1 and a resume of big wins on their schedule, including two crazy OT wins in a matter of four days, the Texans strength of schedule credentials should not be questioned. The question should be this:

Who has New England beaten?

Denver at home, that's it. They've lost to Seattle, Arizona, and Baltimore.

Do not fear the Patriots, they are very mortal.

76Texan
12-03-2012, 12:01 PM
He sure did. I must've overlooked it. He won 22-19. So that improves Wade's record vs. Belichick to 3-3.

Cool.

Also I found out that Kubiak's was 4-4 and 48 yards with a QB rating of 116.7 against the Giants in a play-off game in 1986 season when Belichick's was the DC.
(Game date was 1-25-1987 - Broncos shoulda start Kubiak's that day, LOL).

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 12:21 PM
I am gobsmacked by all the talk lately about the Patriots being the most dominant team in the NFL and how tough they are to beat.

WRONG.


I'm not gobsmacked, at least I don't think I am, but I think I understand what you are saying.

The Patriots remind me of the Bears. Their big thing was being on the plus side in the turnover battle. The Bears defense (defence??) was known to create turnovers, give their offense the short field & occasionally put points on the board. At that time, the Bears defense scored more than they gave up.

That's really the only thing the Pats got over us, considering their injuries on offense.

What people didn't recognize, is that we're pretty good at forcing turnovers on the defensive side of the ball as well. And offensively, we don't give it up.

That's going to be tested against the Pats. Without Gronk I don't think they have enough offense. Without turnovers, I honestly don't think it's going to be close.

That's saying an awful lot. Writing checks that Wade's gotta cash. But that's the way I see it.

gwallaia
12-03-2012, 01:11 PM
I have registered over at the Pats message board and am engaged in a good conversation about our upcoming game. I would appreciate some of you coming over to talk football over there.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/977419-game-plan-thoughts-houston.html

thunderkyss
12-03-2012, 02:17 PM
I bet emdiggy picks the Patriots

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 02:28 PM
Who the **** are you to tell people to chill when they express their opinion? Maybe you ought to make a few thousand more posts around here before you start telling people how they should act.



its never too late to start acting like an adult

michaelm
12-03-2012, 02:38 PM
its never too late to start acting like an adult

Not sure if you're referring to him, or me... lol

Corrosion
12-03-2012, 02:40 PM
its never too late to start acting like an adult

:potkettle:

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 03:10 PM
:potkettle:

pretty sad gif considering neither are black and Id also so its not very relevant since I dont curse at people like teenager here or talk about post count for credibility

michaelm
12-03-2012, 03:24 PM
pretty sad gif considering neither are black and Id also so its not very relevant since I dont curse at people like teenager here or talk about post count for credibility

It's not about post count at all, but it is about credibility. The post count reference is clearly a way of telling him that he should probably familiarize himself with Texans Talk and it's members before he comes in here telling people how they should act.

The guy popped in, made a flippant remark about a long time member that is completely irrelevant to the thread topic, and I didn't like so I called him out.

Does it make you feel better about yourself, defending the weak, and calling me a teenager?

Gosh, I used a sentence with four **** in it... give me a break, where do you live, Disney Land?

Perki-Perk
12-03-2012, 03:59 PM
It's not about post count at all, but it is about credibility. The post count reference is clearly a way of telling him that he should probably familiarize himself with Texans Talk and it's members before he comes in here telling people how they should act.

The guy popped in, made a flippant remark about a long time member that is completely irrelevant to the thread topic, and I didn't like so I called him out.

Does it make you feel better about yourself, defending the weak, and calling me a teenager?

Gosh, I used a sentence with four **** in it... give me a break, where do you live, Disney Land?

HEY! Don't you be bad mouthing Disney Land!!! :kingkong:

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 04:17 PM
Sooooooo.... Whats our gameplan for Monday Night?

michaelm
12-03-2012, 04:24 PM
HEY! Don't you be bad mouthing Disney Land!!! :kingkong:

No offense was intended. I was just using Disney Land to illustrate a place where the use of asterisks is frowned upon.


:specnatz:

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 04:27 PM
It's not about post count at all, but it is about credibility. The post count reference is clearly a way of telling him that he should probably familiarize himself with Texans Talk and it's members before he comes in here telling people how they should act.

The guy popped in, made a flippant remark about a long time member that is completely irrelevant to the thread topic, and I didn't like so I called him out.

Does it make you feel better about yourself, defending the weak, and calling me a teenager?

Gosh, I used a sentence with four **** in it... give me a break, where do you live, Disney Land?



If its not about post count then don't bring it up. Also your reaction was childish or immature asking who the f are you to someone who said "calm it down" I didn't call you a teenager though. Do I feel better about myself? These post really have no impact on how I feel

SAMURAITEXAN
12-03-2012, 04:27 PM
Hope, everyone just NAMASTE to each other and world would be much better place. We(Japanese) don't NAMASTE but just take a bow unless we are at temple that's when we do a similar style of NAMASTE. Anyway, it works pretty good when we show respect to one another before communicating. Simple hello or a picture of Arian doing NAMASTE attached prior to conversation or something.

The Texans record is 11-1 and we are talking about possible home field advantage throughout playoffs and what are we arguing about? We should be happy and not angry. Let's talk about Bring on New England related subject.

Go Texans!!!

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 04:31 PM
Fwiw the line is down to -4

michaelm
12-03-2012, 04:46 PM
If its not about post count then don't bring it up. Also your reaction was childish or immature asking who the f are you to someone who said "calm it down" I didn't call you a teenager though. Do I feel better about myself? These post really have no impact on how I feel

If you can't connect the dots on the post count reference, then I can't help you. I'm pretty sure you understand what I'm saying, but are just consciously being obtuse about it.
Whatever, I know what I meant, so your lack of understanding is irrelevant.

pretty sad gif considering neither are black and Id also so its not very relevant since I dont curse at people like teenager here or talk about post count for credibility

I'm just mature enough that I have the ability to read between the lines on this comment. Of course it was a reference to me. Your denial is just more of you choosing to be argumentative.
If you just woke up this morning feeling like you wanted to argue with someone, maybe you (we) should take it to the NSZ. God knows we have enough differences there to keep us busy for a while.

Corrosion
12-03-2012, 04:52 PM
pretty sad gif considering neither are black and Id also so its not very relevant since I dont curse at people like teenager here or talk about post count for credibility

I was sarcastically refering to ....


you choosing to be argumentative.



Or make mountains out of molehills on occasion ....

Thorn
12-03-2012, 04:54 PM
I have registered over at the Pats message board and am engaged in a good conversation about our upcoming game. I would appreciate some of you coming over to talk football over there.

http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/977419-game-plan-thoughts-houston.html

I registered an account. I'll have to wait on their email before I can post though.

76Texan
12-03-2012, 04:55 PM
Hope, everyone just NAMASTE to each other and world would be much better place. We(Japanese) don't NAMASTE but just take a bow unless we are at temple that's when we do a similar style of NAMASTE. Anyway, it works pretty good when we show respect to one another before communicating. Simple hello or a picture of Arian doing NAMASTE attached prior to conversation or something.

The Texans record is 11-1 and we are talking about possible home field advantage throughout playoffs and what are we arguing about? We should be happy and not angry. Let's talk about Bring on New England related subject.

Go Texans!!!
I love you man, err I mean, good wisdom sensei!:ahhaha:

76Texan
12-03-2012, 04:58 PM
I registered an account. I'll have to wait on their email before I can post though.

Don't be nice like me over there, Thorn.

We need somebody to kick ass after the first wave of nicety!
LOL

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 05:02 PM
I was sarcastically refering to ....




Or make mountains out of molehills on occasion ....



Now that I'm good at

Corrosion
12-03-2012, 05:02 PM
Now that I'm good at

No sh!t Sherlock .... :lol:

76Texan
12-03-2012, 05:06 PM
Fwiw the line is down to -4

Seen that, money on Texans at better odds.
I think it will be a toss-up with the favorite currently trending down.

Hopefully the Football God is out of the equation just to let them play.

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 05:10 PM
If you can't connect the dots on the post count reference, then I can't help you. I'm pretty sure you understand what I'm saying, but are just consciously being obtuse about it.
Whatever, I know what I meant, so your lack of understanding is irrelevant.



I'm just mature enough that I have the ability to read between the lines on this comment. Of course it was a reference to me. Your denial is just more of you choosing to be argumentative.
If you just woke up this morning feeling like you wanted to argue with someone, maybe you (we) should take it to the NSZ. God knows we have enough differences there to keep us busy for a while.


Your overreaction to his opinion, questioning his ability to comment on others opinions is somewhat commical. In your expectation for others to read between the lines it seems you don't have any ability within yourself there could of be some sarcasm in his post. The post he quoted was overly descriptive and I actually found some humor in his response. I'm sure he didn't mean "calm down or I will **** your mother"

2012Champs
12-03-2012, 05:15 PM
Seen that, money on Texans at better odds.
I think it will be a toss-up with the favorite currently trending down.

Hopefully the Football God is out of the equation just to let them play.



That's a pickem for a home game, right now it shows 71% of the money hitting the texans with the points

76Texan
12-03-2012, 05:39 PM
That's a pickem for a home game, right now it shows 71% of the money hitting the texans with the points

That's a lot of money on a dog for the points given, if I may say!

Tailgate
12-03-2012, 05:45 PM
That's a lot of money on a dog for the points given, if I may say!

Especially since the Pats havent lost at home in December since 2005. Wow.

SAMURAITEXAN
12-03-2012, 05:46 PM
I love you man, err I mean, good wisdom sensei!:ahhaha:

Grass Hopper76!!! Yes, wisdom is important like I said before when Sun rises from East and sets on West .........:wadepalm: whatever! NAMASTE to you but don't get me wrong, I'm not bending over(NAMASTE) for you know what! :lol:
I am happy with my beautiful girl friend.(Boy, she is stunning! and I have her only to myself:doot:)

Go Texans!!!

76Texan
12-03-2012, 05:51 PM
Grass Hopper76!!! Yes, wisdom is important like I said before when Sun rises from East and sets on West .........:wadepalm: whatever! NAMASTE to you but don't get me wrong, I'm not bending over(NAMASTE) for you know what! :lol:
I am happy with my beautiful girl friend.(Boy, she is stunning! and I have her only to myself:doot:)

Go Texans!!!

You're funny as hell you know that sensei.
I've learned comedy between East and West; I found out that we can surely as helll appreciate both.

SAMURAITEXAN
12-03-2012, 06:28 PM
You're funny as hell you know that sensei.
I've learned comedy between East and West; I found out that we can surely as helll appreciate both.

Yep, doesn't matter your from East or West. We all are same human being and we appreciate things which are about the same. However, West women tend to have a bigger breast in general in comparison with East women but the rest is like I said about the same Grass Hopper76! :tiptoe:

Go Texans!!!

MEGA SWATT
12-04-2012, 12:03 AM
Time to introduce The Pats to the New AFC Sheriff in Town!

http://media.timesrecordnews.com/media/img/photos/2012/11/14/Texas_Flag_t607.jpg
http://images.texas.ynn.com/media/2012/12/2/images/Football_Houston_Texans899e39b4-7fc2-4c81-af1f-0af3c77dd546.jpg

Let's do this!

Now, can we just skip to Friday!

NastyNate
12-04-2012, 04:06 AM
Sooooooo.... Whats our gameplan for Monday Night?

Blow up all those terrible slip screens they like to run to compensate for their poor pass protection. Put Brady on his back all day long, run the ball, and most importantly, score more points than they do.

htownfan32
12-04-2012, 05:42 AM
Run, run, and run again. Keep Brady off the field and chew up the damn clock.

TheMatrix31
12-04-2012, 05:58 AM
I'd do anything for Foster to have an insane game. Hope he does. He got some nice rest on Sunday.

CloakNNNdagger
12-04-2012, 07:50 AM
Interesting recycle, per Boston Herald.

Wide receiver Donte Stallworth is set to join the Patriots for the third time, according to a source.

The Patriots have a need at the position due to Julian Edelman’s foot injury, which caused him to leave Sun Life Stadium yesterday with crutches and a walking boot.link (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/12/03/source-donte-stallworth-re-signs-with-patriots/)

CloakNNNdagger
12-04-2012, 08:02 AM
Some interesting factoids going into this game.

New England Patriots (http://www.gamingtoday.com/race_sports/article/39125-Analysis_of_four_AFC_playoff_contenders)

I don’t often include post-game quotes in my analysis, but this one from Bill Belichick really stood out to me. “It’s always good to win. It’s not about the stats, it’s about wins.” That’s the core of the Patriots philosophy. With 12 straight winning seasons and nine division titles in the last 10 years, it’s clearly been proven right. And this win over Miami was the epitome of that thought process.

No team in the league is more willing to change their offensive approach depending on the opponent. Last week against the Jets, the Patriots had 39 rushes and only 18 completed passes. This week against Miami’s strong run defense, they spent the game throwing very efficient dinks and dunks. Other weeks, it’s all about the downfield passing game. Tom Brady and offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels live by the cliche “take what the defense gives you.”

This defense is clearly getting better. The pass rush was there all day. The linebackers did an excellent job stuffing the run and the secondary didn’t allow many open receivers. And the playmakers were making plays – Brandon Spikes, Aquib Talib, Jerod Mayo, Chandler Jones and Rob Ninkovich all stepped up. But as the defense has become Super Bowl worthy, there are offensive concerns now – particularly up front. OL Dan Connolly got hurt here and the line didn’t get much push up front against a quality defensive front.

Brady took four sacks after only one in his previous four games. A good pass rush is kryptonite for New England’s offense. Brady’s sacks were the primary reason why New England’s extended streak of OVERS – nine in a row dating back to Week 3 – finally ended.

The last team to return to the Super Bowl the year after a loss was 1993 Buffalo Bills (and the ‘92 Bills, and the ‘91 Bills). It doesn’t happen very often. In fact the only NFL team to reach back-to-back Super Bowls in the last 14 years was the non-spread covering Patriots from ‘03 and ‘04.

Tailgate
12-04-2012, 02:33 PM
Good stuff over at ESPN Boston:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8707808/new-england-patriots-houston-texans-matchup-plenty-offer

Specnatz
12-04-2012, 02:38 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Julian Edelman appears headed to injured reserve http://wp.me/p14QSB-6B8K

Corrosion
12-04-2012, 02:42 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Julian Edelman appears headed to injured reserve http://wp.me/p14QSB-6B8K

I saw that this morning on either Espn or NFL-N ... cant remember which.

2012Champs
12-04-2012, 02:47 PM
That's a lot of money on a dog for the points given, if I may say!



lots of places in vegas now at 3.5 59% of the money still on the texans with the points

thunderkyss
12-04-2012, 02:52 PM
Good stuff over at ESPN Boston:

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/8707808/new-england-patriots-houston-texans-matchup-plenty-offer

I'm not liking this article already.

This marks the Texans' third road game in three weeks, and according to the Elias Sports Bureau, only five teams have won three road games in three weeks since 2000.

76Texan
12-04-2012, 03:03 PM
lots of places in vegas now at 3.5 59% of the money still on the texans with the points

I pretty much expect this.
Sounds like a game where "may the best team wins".

I like it.

Let's go Texans. :kingkong:

76Texan
12-04-2012, 03:05 PM
ProFootballTalk ‏@ProFootballTalk

Julian Edelman appears headed to injured reserve http://wp.me/p14QSB-6B8K

I expected that he won't play.

76Texan
12-04-2012, 03:08 PM
Interesting recycle, per Boston Herald.

link (http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/12/03/source-donte-stallworth-re-signs-with-patriots/)

I wouldn't worry about him.

ThaJokaa
12-04-2012, 03:37 PM
http://thepenaltyflagblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/gay_tom_brady2.jpg

Bring em on then

CloakNNNdagger
12-04-2012, 03:43 PM
I wouldn't worry about him.
I posted it only to note that he was picked up after Edelman hit the turf.

Pats
12-04-2012, 04:30 PM
Shame, he was having a good season.

Maybe Gronk will make an appearance.

76Texan
12-04-2012, 04:45 PM
Shame, he was having a good season.

Maybe Gronk will make an appearance.

Ya' think?

What's the news on him, I'm curious.

DX-TEX
12-04-2012, 04:47 PM
Ya' think?

What's the news on him, I'm curious.

Just saw rumors they will hold him out until the playoffs start. Dont want risk it.

patfanken
12-05-2012, 12:12 AM
Welcome to NE. The weather will be cold, wet and in the 20's when your team arrives. I hope they can adapt. Here are a few things you should know about the Pats when entering in any discussions with Pats fans.

1. We don't care about hearing about your injuries. Sorry you have them, but you aren't the only team in the league that has to deal with them. The Pats have had just one offensive lineman who has played every game this season. There is a good chance that 3 of the 5 starting offensive linemen will miss this game. (Volmer, Connolly, and Mankins) As well as the starting TE (Gronk), and 3rd WR/PR (Edelman) and that;s just the offense. We've already lost our starting CB (Dowling) 3rd LB (Fletcher) to the IR and our best DL (Jones) for the last 3 games. SO WHAT!

It would be great to have all your guys playing without any injuries, but that just doesn't happen. You have to be lucky with injuries and neither the Pats or the Texans have been. But the one thing you won't hear from most Pats fans are injury excuses. And its something we've had to learn over time. As fans we are just as prone to blame injuries for our disappointments as any team, but over the 12 years of the Bellichick era, he has never stooped to use injuries as an excuse....ever. And over the years of success he's had with the Pats, the fans have gradually learned to accept injuries as facts of life. So now we just curse them and expect the next man up to do the job. Last season the Pats had 4 different C's start games on the #1 offense in the league and made it to the superbowl

2. The Texans have had a great run and really should be considered the top team in the AFC. I'm a little surprised the Pats are favored, even if its only the by the home field advantage.

3. The Texans are hitting the Pats at a very good time. The Pats have only 2 healthy WRs (Welker and Lloyd) on the roster (plus a guy they just signed this week (Stallworth). Look for TE Aaron Hernandez to play a lot of snaps split out.

4. The Pats base formation which they run about 60-70% of the time is the 1-2-2. One RB, 2 TE's 2 WRs. It presents a lot of very tough matchups for defenses. With Gronk there there are 4 excellent Receiver options, and if the defense tries to go with nickel or dime defenses to counteract the pass threats, its a great formation to run the ball. Without Gronk, of course its less effective, but that's relative. Its still very effective.

5. For the first time in a long time the Pats are more balanced. Last week is a good example. The Pats had just 10 rushing yards in the first half against a very good rush defense, and wound up the game with 120 for the game. With the lack of WR's look for the Pats to rush the ball over 30 times

6. I know the Texans have one of the better pass rushes in the league. It will be a huge challenge for the Pats OL. But the Pats have faced other good pass rushes this season, and generally have held up well regardless who who is in there. It also helps to have Tom Brady as your QB. He gets rid of the ball very quickly. Kills blitzes, and has great pocket presence.

I think the Texans would be wise to rush just 4 most of the time. I think their front 4 is good enough to provide enough pressure without biltzing.

7. The key to defeating the Pats passing attack is pressure up the middle. Edge pressure is generally not as effective. If I were setting up the Texan defense this week, I'd be looking to get JJ Watts into the middle as much as possible either through alignment or stunts

8. Gillette Stadium has been a great home field advantage, but its not a particularly noisy crowd, like Seattle or a dome team. The stadium design is more open than a lot of fields, and I'm sad to say the prolonged success of the Pats has softened the Pats crowd a bit. I think the weather will more of a disadvantage than the crowd.

9. patsfans.com is a popular Pats message board. Most of the time there will be 5-600 fans logged on, so you can get involved in a lot of good football talk. Feel free to talk up your team, and disagree with a Patriots point view. As long as you are respectful and want to talk football, you will be welcomed. If you just want to talk trash and be annoying, your stay will be a short one. So far most of the Texan fans who have shown up have been very classy.

10, Good luck to your team on Sunday. Regardless of who wins, I doubt it will be the last time we face each other. May we both leave this game as healthy as we started it. That's the most important thing over the long haul.

The next 2 weeks (Texans and Niners) will tell Pats fans a lot of about the state of their team But at this point the next 4 games for both our 2 teams are merely for playoff seeding and getting prepared for the 2nd season. Merely rehearsals for January.

76Texan
12-05-2012, 12:16 AM
Just a quick reply before I appreciate your thorough post.

We don't care to know about your injured players just the same :)

76Texan
12-05-2012, 12:24 AM
Offensively, we do a lot of things similar to the Pats.

We flexed our TEs (either O.D. or Garett Graham) or our FB/TE James Casey from time to time.

We ran quite a bit out of the 12 personnel just the same.

And we've been quite balance with the run/pass distribution for a few years now.

But, just like the Pats, if we need to go 4 or 5 wide and sling it, we can do that, too.

76Texan
12-05-2012, 12:31 AM
We don't know how much blitzing Wade is going to do.

His team went 3-3 against Belichick over the years; I trust he'll figure out something.

I still think we'll rush some off the edge to flush Brady up the pocket for our interior guys to make play.

I'm sure you've already noticed that our strength in the pass rush is up the middle.

On the other side of the ball, Kubiak has a winning record against Belichick when he was the OC of the Broncos.
I think I will trust him to put up a sound game plan.

We've won in the Frozen Tundra on a very cold day.
We've won in the Windy City on a very wet day.
Still, the weather might favor the Pats.
It could slow down our pass rush.

I think that's probably why the line had the Pats as the favorite.

Specnatz
12-05-2012, 12:32 AM
Welcome to NE. The weather will be cold, wet and in the 20's when your team arrives. I hope they can adapt. Here are a few things you should know about the Pats when entering in any discussions with Pats fans.

1. We don't care about hearing about your injuries. It would be great to have all your guys playing without any injuries, but that just doesn't happen.

2. The Texans have had a great run and really should be considered the top team in the AFC. I'm a little surprised the Pats are favored, even if its only the by the home field advantage.

3. The Texans are hitting the Pats at a very good time. The Pats have only 2 healthy WRs (Welker and Lloyd) on the roster (plus a guy they just signed this week (Stallworth). Look for TE Aaron Hernandez to play a lot of snaps split out.

4. The Pats base formation which they run about 60-70% of the time is the 1-2-2.

5. For the first time in a long time the Pats are more balanced.

6. I know the Texans have one of the better pass rushes in the league. It will be a huge challenge for the Pats OL.

I think the Texans would be wise to rush just 4 most of the time. I think their front 4 is good enough to provide enough pressure without biltzing.

7. The key to defeating the Pats passing attack is pressure up the middle. Edge pressure is generally not as effective. If I were setting up the Texan defense this week, I'd be looking to get JJ Watts into the middle as much as possible either through alignment or stunts

8. Gillette Stadium has been a great home field advantage

9. patsfans.com is a popular Pats message board.

10, Good luck to your team on Sunday. Regardless of who wins, I doubt it will be the last time we face each other. May we both leave this game as healthy as we started it. That's the most important thing over the long haul.

The next 2 weeks (Texans and Niners) will tell Pats fans a lot of about the state of their team But at this point the next 4 games for both our 2 teams are merely for playoff seeding and getting prepared for the 2nd season. Merely rehearsals for January.

First, let me say I have no ill will to the Pats, while I know friends who do cause of the way fans acted at the Superbowl in Houston, but I will say you were not the rude fan.

1. Injuries are a part of it. As far as folks saying i want to face them when they are at there best .. BS. Win is a Win, if it gets you a title who cares.

2. We will get respect when we win yea in and year out so most of us could careless what espin says.

3. Injuries are never a good thing for any team and no matter who else is healthy it could spell trouble.

4. Your big TE have cause a lot of trouble for teams because usually the LB is to slow to cover and the DB is to small. It will be a key to the game that is for sure.

5. The run game has improved a great deal I have Riddley on my FFB team.

6. In the Texans version of the 3 -4 only rushing 4 is not how it is done, you max out the rush so the QB has less time to set and throw. You will see OLB dropping into coverage while a safety or Corner blitzes making the blocking difficult.

7. JJ Swatt normally is on the inside since he plays DE in a 3-4. Only time it appears he is on the edge is when the OLB drops off in to coverage and the OT swingout to far, which has happened a lot in our packages.

8. Gillette is a nice stadium and it is very home friendly.

Oh and as far as adapting to weather .. flashback to the Bears game.

76Texan
12-05-2012, 12:36 AM
Thank you for the inputs, and may the best team win.

Hopefully, there won't be much luck involved, but we'll take the luck if it happens. :)

Have a good one!

TheMatrix31
12-05-2012, 02:28 AM
I don't give a **** about anyone's injuries anymore. Not after what happened last year.

Pats
12-05-2012, 06:18 AM
Ya' think?

What's the news on him, I'm curious.

Some ex NE players thought hed back before the 4 week timetable.

Looks like hes not practicing, so no go.

Pats
12-05-2012, 06:42 AM
We don't know how much blitzing Wade is going to do.

His team went 3-3 against Belichick over the years; I trust he'll figure out something.

Seems to be hit or miss with Wade.

Hes bounced around the NFL with a lot of teams.

On the other side of the ball, Kubiak has a winning record against Belichick when he was the OC of the Broncos.
I think I will trust him to put up a sound game plan.

Kubiak had Elway.

Schaub is no Elway.

thunderkyss
12-05-2012, 07:16 AM
5. For the first time in a long time the Pats are more balanced. Last week is a good example. The Pats had just 10 rushing yards in the first half against a very good rush defense, and wound up the game with 120 for the game. With the lack of WR's look for the Pats to rush the ball over 30 times

6. I know the Texans have one of the better pass rushes in the league. It will be a huge challenge for the Pats OL. But the Pats have faced other good pass rushes this season, and generally have held up well regardless who who is in there. It also helps to have Tom Brady as your QB. He gets rid of the ball very quickly. Kills blitzes, and has great pocket presence.


I wonder if anyone has noticed we have the #2 rush defense (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=RUSHING&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=RUSHING_YARDS_PER_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1) in the league?

Or the #4 scoring (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2012&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1) defense.

There's been so much talk about our pass rush & Jj Watt... I wonder if the Quality of our defense is truly appreciated.

TEXANS84
12-05-2012, 08:09 AM
Heard a interesting stat this morning:

In the patriots 9 wins, they average 49 points per game (holy crap).

When the Patriots play a tough front 7, in the three losses to Arizona, Seattle and Baltimore they averaged 23 points. Take that with a grain of salt.

76Texan
12-05-2012, 08:55 AM
Seems to be hit or miss with Wade.

Hes bounced around the NFL with a lot of teams.



Kubiak had Elway.

Schaub is no Elway.
While Schaub lacks some of the physical traits that Elway possesses, he's been playing at a high level very comparable to how Elway played during those two SB runs.

He takes about 50% fewer sacks as a percentage of pass attempts.
He's completing his passes at a better rate while maintaining the equivalent YPA, with a slightly better percentage of INT per attempt.
He spread the ball around better, especially because we have more weapons.

Elway was toward the end of his career so his mobility was not at the top of his career.

Elway's record in those two years during the reg season was 22-6.

With a better defense, Schaub is enjoying a healthy 18-4 in the last two years.
With 4 games remaining, he might end up with a better level of success.

Dawgnme
12-05-2012, 10:08 AM
I was banned from the pat's fans board last night for starting a thread titled "JJ Watt..."

It said "....has a bigger, thicker penis than Tom Brady."

Lasted only 5 minutes...they be mad.


Dude, that's

http://www.the-frat-pack.com/images/news/ambiguously-gay-duo.jpg

Perki-Perk
12-05-2012, 01:05 PM
Just a quick reply before I appreciate your thorough post.

We don't care to know about your injured players just the same :)

LOL, I was thinking the same thing! You come in here, "We don't care about injuries, they happen, but check out all of ours!" Hahaha

Cold and Rainy...hmmm, we seemed to do well in Chicago under those same conditions.

pec0sb0b
12-05-2012, 01:49 PM
Bill Belichick would vote for J.J. Watt as defensive player of the year
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/bill-belichick-would-vote-for-j-j-watt-as-defensive-player-of-the-year/

Belichick: Watt is ‘most disruptive player in the league’
http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/belichick-watt-%E2%80%98most-disruptive-player-league%E2%80%99

@espn_afceast Saw where BB has defenders using rackets to imitate J.J. Watt and the guys up front who bat balls down. So smart.
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcsouth/post/_/id/44462/twitter-double-coverage-texans-vs-patriots

I think Belichick must have once worked for the CIA in psyops. It's one grand Machiavellian plot...

pec0sb0b
12-05-2012, 02:02 PM
To prepare for Watt's range, New England has equipped players on the scout team with racquetball racquets and ordered them to bat down whatever balls they can reach. It's not one of Brady's preferred practice exercises, but it's one that is completely necessary.

In fact, Bill Belichick suggested that the small racquets may not be enough. It may be time to move onto brooms.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/21277575/patriots-qb-tom-brady-trying-to-find-ways-to-avoid-texans-de-jj-watts-arms

76Texan
12-05-2012, 02:04 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/21277575/patriots-qb-tom-brady-trying-to-find-ways-to-avoid-texans-de-jj-watts-arms

lol

Tailgate
12-05-2012, 02:04 PM
Video of Bradys press conference today:

http://www.patriots.com/media-center/videos/Tom-Brady-Press-Conference---1252012/a8cc7160-7e1d-4399-a210-1116010a9802

patfanken
12-05-2012, 03:26 PM
I don't give a **** about anyone's injuries anymore. Not after what happened last year.nor should you.

Rey
12-05-2012, 04:02 PM
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/nfl-rapidreports/21277575/patriots-qb-tom-brady-trying-to-find-ways-to-avoid-texans-de-jj-watts-arms

Sounds like Ol' Belli is messing around...

thunderkyss
12-05-2012, 05:26 PM
Cold and Rainy...hmmm, we seemed to do well in Chicago under those same conditions.

Before the Chicago game Kubiak had the defensive players imitate the Chicago players & punch at the ball even after a play was over. We forced 3 fumbles in that game (I think).

I'm hoping that continued & may have helped us sunday night.

I hope they are still doing it, preparing for New England, who has the highest turnover margin.

76Texan
12-05-2012, 05:38 PM
Man, I'm already pumped!

The Third Man
12-06-2012, 12:34 AM
I don't expect the Texans to win unless they completely get their running game and pass rush cranked up. We saw progress last week with the pass rush, but it has been since the first half of the Chicago game since our rushing attack was hitting on all cylinders. I would hope Tate can get some time since he figures to have fresh legs and a whole lot of pent up frustration to draw on. We basically haven't seen a fully healthy trio of Foster, Tate and Andre Johnson ever.

DX-TEX
12-06-2012, 12:41 AM
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y300/MechDX/99problems.png

76Texan
12-10-2012, 08:29 AM
Kubiak's Broncos teams vs Belichick's pats:

Won 24-16 @ NE in 2002 Regular season as OC
Loss 30-26 vs. NE in 2003 Regular season as OC
Won 28-20 vs. NE in 2005 Regular season as OC
Won 27-13 vs. NE in 2006 AFC divisional playoffs as OC
Loss 28-19 vs. NE in 2000 Regular Season as OC/QB Coach
Won 31-20 vs. NE in 2001 Regular season as OC/QB Coach
Won 24-16 @ NE in 2002 Regular season as OC/QB Coach

Overall record of 5-2. 1-0 in playoff games

Hey, I think Wade also won one when Belichick was the HC of the Browns in 95 (his fifth year there.)

He sure did. He won 22-19. So that improves Wade's record vs. Belichick to 3-3. Reason I didn't include that one is because you were asking for his record against Bill as HC of the Patriots.

Hey, also when Belichick was HC of the Browns, he:
Lost to Broncos at home 7-17 in 1991 (Wade was the DC)
Lost to Broncos, again, at home 0-12 in 1992 (Wade was DC)
Lost to Broncos 14-29 in 1993, at home again the next year 1993 ( Wade as the DC)
Lost to Broncos 14-26 on the road the following year 1994 (4 years in a row with Wade as the Broncos DC).

Wade went to the Bills the next year, 1995; that's when he won 22-19 against Bellichick's Browns.

So actually, Wade's record against Belichick is 7-3

Our coaches have had a very good record against BB with Kubiak as the OC and Wade as the DC or HC.

And Kubiak is currently 1-1 against BB as the Texans HC, we all know that.

2012Champs
12-10-2012, 09:34 AM
game is now -4 with over 60% of the money hitting NE

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 09:39 AM
game is now -4 with over 60% of the money hitting NE

Love it.

This is awesome.

Tailgate
12-10-2012, 09:52 AM
Weather says it clears up this afternoon, 0% precip, low 30's tonight.

gtexan02
12-10-2012, 10:13 AM
Weather says it clears up this afternoon, 0% precip, low 30's tonight.

What weather are you looking at?

On weather.com I'm seeing 8pm - 53oF with 80% chance of rain
12am - 54oF and 90% chance of rain

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 10:16 AM
What weather are you looking at?

On weather.com I'm seeing 8pm - 53oF with 80% chance of rain
12am - 54oF and 90% chance of rain

Man, I hope we're not playing at 12 am...

Everlong
12-10-2012, 10:16 AM
I live 25 miles from Gillette. It's in the mid 50's with intermittent drizzle. Weather will not be a factor and the snow rumors were always bogus.

Tailgate
12-10-2012, 10:26 AM
What weather are you looking at?

On weather.com I'm seeing 8pm - 53oF with 80% chance of rain
12am - 54oF and 90% chance of rain

I am looking at the Weather channel app hourly forecast.

ChampionTexan
12-10-2012, 10:40 AM
I am looking at the Weather channel app hourly forecast.

You sure you're not looking at another Foxboro?

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USMA0146?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

Tailgate
12-10-2012, 10:48 AM
You sure you're not looking at another Foxboro?

http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/graph/USMA0146?pagenum=2&nextbeginIndex=6

Triplechecked it. Guess my TWC App is a Texans fan?

Rey
12-10-2012, 01:46 PM
Hourly forecast:

http://www.wcvb.com/weather/forecast

BrainTrust66
12-10-2012, 02:50 PM
I am sitting in Downtown Boston as I write this. I can say that the sky has been alternately like and dark all day - showery, but significantly warmer. I really don't think weather will be much of a factor but I can't rule out the stray downpour. It's field turf so there's no "mud" issues.

76Texan
12-10-2012, 03:14 PM
I am sitting in Downtown Boston as I write this. I can say that the sky has been alternately like and dark all day - showery, but significantly warmer. I really don't think weather will be much of a factor but I can't rule out the stray downpour. It's field turf so there's no "mud" issues.

Thanks for the update.

I really appreciate it.

Please describe the mood of the Texans fans representing.

Have a good time

klockWork
12-10-2012, 04:07 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."
THIS is not a divisional game. THIS is not a must-win game. Of all the the teams that could afford to lose a game this week it's the Texans and Falcons. With a lose those two teams still control their own destiny.

That comment by AJ could only mean one thing. The Texans are more concern of their perceive power by the media more than anything. And that a lost against Pats tonight could shaken this team emotionally. Win or lose they should only be concern about their next game. It's just another game. Good teams lose to other good teams all the time. It's how they respond against each other in the playoffs that matters.

The Pats are saying it themselves, "It's just another game." Win or lose tonight they know it's how you respond in the playoffs. And I don't buy into the crap about winning this game to gain confidence. N.E. blew out the Jets two years ago and lost to them in the playoffs. Confidence gain against beating another team in the regular season means absolutley nothing!

The outcome of this particular game matter most to critics and fans of both teams. It's something to talk about, analyzed, and brags. I just hope my Texans don't get caught up in between that nonsense.

If anything, I rather have them lose tonight. Because I think this team is more dangerous playing angry and with a chip on their shoulder than a false sense of confidence.

But yes, it would feel mighty damn fine if we win!

Hardcore Texan
12-10-2012, 04:10 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."
THIS is not a divisional game. THIS is not a must-win game. Of all the the teams that could afford to lose a game this week it's the Texans and Falcons. With a lose those two teams still control their own destiny.

That comment by AJ could only mean one thing. The Texans are more concern of their perceive power by the media more than anything. And that a lost against Pats tonight could shaken this team emotionally. Win or lose they should only be concern about their next game. It's just another game. Good teams lose to other good teams all the time. It's how they respond against each other in the playoffs that matters.

The Pats are saying it themselves, "It's just another game." Win or lose tonight they know it's how you respond in the playoffs. And I don't buy into the crap about winning this game to gain confidence. N.E. blew out the Jets two years ago and lost to them in the playoffs. Confidence gain against beating another team in the regular season means absolutley nothing!

The outcome of this particular game matter most to critics and fans of both teams. It's something to talk about, analyzed, and brags. I just hope my Texans don't get caught up in between that nonsense.

If anything, I rather have them lose tonight. Because I think this team is more dangerous playing angry and with a chip on their shoulder than a false sense of confidence.

But yes, it would feel mighty damn fine if we win!

It's big because if we win it all but guarantees the #1 seed and homefield advantage throughout.

TEXANRED
12-10-2012, 04:11 PM
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2012Champs
12-10-2012, 04:17 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."
THIS is not a divisional game. THIS is not a must-win game. Of all the the teams that could afford to lose a game this week it's the Texans and Falcons. With a lose those two teams still control their own destiny.

That comment by AJ could only mean one thing. The Texans are more concern of their perceive power by the media more than anything. And that a lost against Pats tonight could shaken this team emotionally. Win or lose they should only be concern about their next game. It's just another game. Good teams lose to other good teams all the time. It's how they respond against each other in the playoffs that matters.

The Pats are saying it themselves, "It's just another game." Win or lose tonight they know it's how you respond in the playoffs. And I don't buy into the crap about winning this game to gain confidence. N.E. blew out the Jets two years ago and lost to them in the playoffs. Confidence gain against beating another team in the regular season means absolutley nothing!

The outcome of this particular game matter most to critics and fans of both teams. It's something to talk about, analyzed, and brags. I just hope my Texans don't get caught up in between that nonsense.

If anything, I rather have them lose tonight. Because I think this team is more dangerous playing angry and with a chip on their shoulder than a false sense of confidence.

But yes, it would feel mighty damn fine if we win!



I think you may be missing the bigger playoff picture this game can setup

76Texan
12-10-2012, 04:19 PM
Bring on the Pats. Let's go!

silvrhand
12-10-2012, 04:25 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."
THIS is not a divisional game. THIS is not a must-win game. Of all the the teams that could afford to lose a game this week it's the Texans and Falcons. With a lose those two teams still control their own destiny.

That comment by AJ could only mean one thing. The Texans are more concern of their perceive power by the media more than anything. And that a lost against Pats tonight could shaken this team emotionally. Win or lose they should only be concern about their next game. It's just another game. Good teams lose to other good teams all the time. It's how they respond against each other in the playoffs that matters.

The Pats are saying it themselves, "It's just another game." Win or lose tonight they know it's how you respond in the playoffs. And I don't buy into the crap about winning this game to gain confidence. N.E. blew out the Jets two years ago and lost to them in the playoffs. Confidence gain against beating another team in the regular season means absolutley nothing!

The outcome of this particular game matter most to critics and fans of both teams. It's something to talk about, analyzed, and brags. I just hope my Texans don't get caught up in between that nonsense.

If anything, I rather have them lose tonight. Because I think this team is more dangerous playing angry and with a chip on their shoulder than a false sense of confidence.

But yes, it would feel mighty damn fine if we win!

- home field playoff rights (huge btw, were you at the last game at reliant, the stadium will be insane)
- extra week to get ready and healed up! (huge)
- intimidation factor of sticking it to the patriots @home.

That sounds like a pretty big game to me :)

Rey
12-10-2012, 04:27 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."


From a players perspective, this is probably the second biggest game in our team history behind the Bengals play-off game from last year.

With this team it's about clearing mental hurdles.

Facing the Patriots, in prime time...late in the season, in Foxboro, with the best record we've ever had, the key players on the teams are mostly healthy...Patriots were the best team in the AFC last year...Homefield throughout the play offs in the balance for this year...

This game is the game that makes this franchise go from believing they can to knowing they can.

There's a reason so many Pat's fans have come to our board. There's a reason this game feels like a special event. There's a reason why people are pumped for tonight's game.

There's a reason Andre said what he said. As far as regular season games, this one is Huge.

76Texan
12-10-2012, 04:31 PM
I've been here as a HS Senior in 1976.

I went through all the Oilers years.

We were loud in the Dome then and did not regret it one bit.
I'm having even more fun with the boys now.

76Texan
12-10-2012, 04:35 PM
When we talk about the mental hurdle, the fans are no exceptions

Let it go and enjoy the season.

Don't wait for the trophy; the joy is the adventure.

gwallaia
12-10-2012, 04:39 PM
When we talk about the mental hurdle, the fans are no exceptions

Let it go and enjoy the season.

Don't wait for the trophy; the joy is the adventure.

I hear what you're saying but we've all been on a lot of "adventures" with the Oilers already.

klockWork
12-10-2012, 04:42 PM
If AJ hadn't made those comments and we lose tonight then I'll still like our chances of a SB title. But because he DID made those comments then I pray this team isn't all about the vanity that this win could bring.

Last week game against Titans is more important than this game. We stay undefeated in our own division. N.E is also undefeated in the division. If we drop this game we still in the driver seat to #1 seed. If we lost against Titans then Pats have the adv if there is a tie. The most important remaining regular games in Texans history lies when we play against the Colts.

I hope AJ and the rest of the Texans recognize that fact. And yes, it would be freaking awesome if we beat the New England Patriots on Monday Night Football!!

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 05:05 PM
I have a big problem with Andre Johnson saying "This is the biggest regular season game in Texans history."
THIS is not a divisional game. THIS is not a must-win game. Of all the the teams that could afford to lose a game this week it's the Texans and Falcons. With a lose those two teams still control their own destiny.

Well let's see. Andre has put more into this club than anybody in the entire world, McNair included, & he says this is the most important game in Texans history.

You bought a T-shirt with Andre's name on it & you say it's just another game.

:thinking:


That comment by AJ could only mean one thing. The Texans are more concern of their perceive power by the media more than anything. And that a lost against Pats tonight could shaken this team emotionally. Win or lose they should only be concern about their next game. It's just another game. Good teams lose to other good teams all the time. It's how they respond against each other in the playoffs that matters.

I can see how you got to that conclusion, however, there are other possibilities.

The Pats are saying it themselves, "It's just another game." Win or lose tonight they know it's how you respond in the playoffs. And I don't buy into the crap about winning this game to gain confidence. N.E. blew out the Jets two years ago and lost to them in the playoffs. Confidence gain against beating another team in the regular season means absolutley nothing!

No, they know it's more than "just another game" They think it should mean more to them than to us, because it gets harder for them to accomplish their goal if they lose. We can still be the 1 seed if we lose & it would be easy by comparison.

It's not about "confidence" it's about stacking the odds in your favor.

The outcome of this particular game matter most to critics and fans of both teams. It's something to talk about, analyzed, and brags. I just hope my Texans don't get caught up in between that nonsense.

If anything, I rather have them lose tonight. Because I think this team is more dangerous playing angry and with a chip on their shoulder than a false sense of confidence.

But yes, it would feel mighty damn fine if we win!

Winning this game would not be considered "nonsense" to any team with Super Bowl aspirations.

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 05:09 PM
This game is the game that makes this franchise go from believing they can to knowing they can.


Exactly. The rematch in January is going to have a totally different feel, based on the outcome of this game tonight.


Right now, it's just lip service. People saying we're the best team. Fans, talking heads, power rankings, blah, blah, blah...

We beat the Patriots tonight, then they'll know, we'll know.... no false sense of confidence there.

klockWork
12-10-2012, 05:13 PM
So you rather win this game than the Titans game or the upcoming Colts game?

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 05:15 PM
So you rather win this game than the Titans game or the upcoming Colts game?

He didn't say the most important. He said the biggest game.


Think about it.

This game will have more of a play-off feel than any of our previous games, against the reigning AFC Champs, when they're still pretty good. They are clearly the #2 team in the conference.... arguably #1.

pissknocker
12-10-2012, 05:19 PM
I personally rather win them ALL!!!

76Texan
12-10-2012, 05:28 PM
I personally rather win them ALL!!!

Good answer LOL

Showtime100
12-10-2012, 05:32 PM
Should be an interesting Monday Night Countdown. It just started. :bat:

klockWork
12-10-2012, 05:35 PM
Please, stop it. Non-Divisional game is never more important or bigger than Divisional games unless it's the last game of the season that decides home-field adv.

If there's a rematch in the playoffs the outcome of tonight games mean ditto. Circumstances changes, play calling changes, knowledges gained and get processed, players and personnel progress changes, momentum changes. The air they breathe tonight changes.

If there's a rematch in January everything from tonight games will change! If there's a team that won't accept that fact, that team Will lose every time.

TEXANRED
12-10-2012, 05:37 PM
Should be an interesting Monday Night Countdown. It just started. :bat:

Na, they will just talk about the Cowboys or some other NFC East team.

Showtime100
12-10-2012, 05:39 PM
Sorry dude. I can't help but to get fired up for any Texans game no matter the circumstances.

I want a win tonight, same as game 1 of the preseason....well, you get my drift. :D

EDIT: Sorry, this was a comment to klockwork. I didn't quote, my bad.

klockWork
12-10-2012, 05:50 PM
All I'm saying is whoever win this game will not increase their chances of winning a rematch. So don't get too high if we win or too low if we lose.
The playoff is a whole different world.

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 05:56 PM
All I'm saying is whoever win this game will not increase their chances of winning a rematch. So don't get too high if we win or too low if we lose.
The playoff is a whole different world.

It means something to the guys playing it. Andre said so. He said it's the biggest game in the Texans history. No one has been wearing that red, white, & that blue longer than him, so he knows.

It don't mean squat to you. Fine, we get it. You're on record.

It's a big game for Andre. Maybe one day you can sit down with him & he'll explain it to you. Or you can explain to him that he don't know squat. It's just his career & your entertainment.

DX-TEX
12-10-2012, 05:58 PM
Should be an interesting Monday Night Countdown. It just started. :bat:

Patriots, Brady.....slurp slurp....Brady....slurp.....oh and the texans.

klockWork
12-10-2012, 06:07 PM
I would have a big problem if AJ put lay it all out in this game but hold some back against Indy.

Showtime100
12-10-2012, 06:14 PM
I would have a big problem if AJ put lay it all out in this game but hold some back against Indy.

I personally don't think Andre "holds back" in any game.

DX-TEX
12-10-2012, 06:18 PM
I personally don't think Andre "holds back" in any game.

Dre has waited 10 years for games like tonight! 10 years for a caged animal that lives for this type of situation!!

Show em Dre!! Show em who the best damn WR in the league is!!!

infantrycak
12-10-2012, 06:18 PM
Should be an interesting Monday Night Countdown. It just started. :bat:

I love the wisdom from Suzy Kolber - just hit Watt in the ribs when he goes up. Thanks chicka - I am sure none of the OLmen and coaches have heard that before.

thunderkyss
12-10-2012, 06:18 PM
I would have a big problem if AJ put lay it all out in this game but hold some back against Indy.

I'd have a big problem if any of our team captains said that.

But they didn't & they won't.

Stop adding to what the man said & take it for what it is.

Showtime100
12-10-2012, 06:22 PM
I love the wisdom from Suzy Kolber - just hit Watt in the ribs when he goes up. Thanks chicka - I am sure none of the OLmen and coaches have heard that before.

Yeah, I'm not a big Suzy fan at all.

klockWork
12-10-2012, 06:22 PM
I personally don't think Andre "holds back" in any game.

Let me rephrase that: I would have a problem if AJ put so much out in this game that there won't be enough left against Indy.

Mailman
12-10-2012, 06:22 PM
I love the wisdom from Suzy Kolber - just hit Watt in the ribs when he goes up. Thanks chicka - I am sure none of the OLmen and coaches have heard that before.

I'd still kiss her.

Rey
12-10-2012, 06:24 PM
So you rather win this game than the Titans game or the upcoming Colts game?

Winning this game would be nice, but honest I just don't want to be punked by the big bad bully on the block.

I more concerned with "how we play" vs. Coming out with a w. Although the w is and always will be the goal.

I don't pull this card a lot, but how much organized team sports have you played?

I ask because when you are on a team that has been bad or ok, when you start to become good you look at games like this as reassurance that you are in fact what you think you are.

You don't have to like it or agree with it, but to the players in that locker room this is a game where they can prove something.

You say that they are all about what people think....HELLO! That is the main thing that drives athletes...shutting up the doubters...quieting the haters...

Being able to stand up at the end if a game and saying I told you bastards so....

drs23
12-10-2012, 06:51 PM
Yeah, I'm not a big Suzy fan at all.

Me either so much, but she sure has some nice sticks. :drool: