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HOU-TEX
11-28-2012, 10:46 AM
Didn't see this posted anywhere. This is a great read and break down of DB's play. I really dig it when 'big nasties' get props. Read the entire article.

The Texans drafted Duane Brown with the 26th overall selection in 2008 in what was described as a reach by many at the time. Though Brown struggled early in his career, coughing up 11 sacks as a rookie, his PFF grade and ranking has improved every season since, and over the past 29 games he has surrendered just a single sack. The Texans were banking on his talent and potential, and right now they are being proved right with every game.

Brown is the league’s best left tackle in 2012, putting together a season so good it saw him in 6th position in our Offensive Player of the Year rankings compiled by the PFF analysts. Senior Analyst Ben Stockwell, the man that analyses more games than anybody at PFF, actually ranked Brown in his top spot.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/28/analysis-notebook-week-12-2/

GlassHalfFull
11-28-2012, 11:08 AM
OL is arguably the most important piece of the puzzle that makes up a good team. And LT is a huge part of that piece.

Duane Brown has been stellar. Glad to see him getting well deserved recognition.

TexanSam
11-28-2012, 11:16 AM
He's been awesome. His name is rarely called (maybe a half dozen time at most this season) and that's a good thing.

Playoffs
11-28-2012, 11:18 AM
Offensive Player of the Year rankings compiled by the PFF analysts. Senior Analyst Ben Stockwell, the man that analyses more games than anybody at PFF, actually ranked Brown in his top spot.
That is what is so impressive about the 2012 version of Duane Brown. Several players in the league today are athletically gifted left tackles, capable of shadowing great pass-rushers and limiting the pressure they surrender, but few are able to partner that with the strength and power Brown has developed and uses in the run game as well as his pass protection. He has allowed just fifteen total pressures this season as a pass protector, but his run blocking grade sits almost identically alongside his excellent pass-protection grade for the season, making Brown the league’s best all-around left tackle right now.
Pretty darn impressive.

Duane Brown has now passed every other OT drafted ahead of him in the 2008 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft). (Although I think Ryan Clady is right there with him.)

Scooter
11-28-2012, 11:24 AM
By the time Foster is crossing the goal line Brown has pancaked three defenders, driving his man off the line so far he cuts off the pursuit of both a linebacker and a safety and takes them all to the ground.

epic.

disaacks3
11-28-2012, 11:26 AM
The man is a beast, and deserves the props after getting hammered early & often as a rookie.

DocBar
11-28-2012, 11:29 AM
By the time Foster is crossing the goal line Brown has pancaked three defenders, driving his man off the line so far he cuts off the pursuit of both a linebacker and a safety and takes them all to the ground.
That is just awesome. I also like that Brown plays with a nasty attitude. He doesn't just want to block you, he wants to dominate and demoralize you.

TexansRule1
11-28-2012, 11:35 AM
Wait, wait. This can't be right. Isn't this the same guy that I knew was a bust his rookie year (just like everybody else)?

Next thing your gonna tell me is that Kareem Jackson isn't bust either. Bradie James, Alan Ball?

No, no. I think I will just continue to judge these things quickly. After all, no one gets better with practice, effort, and coaching.

NastyNate
11-28-2012, 11:35 AM
That is just awesome. I also like that Brown plays with a nasty attitude. He doesn't just want to block you, he wants to dominate and demoralize you.

I hope that style of play rubs off on Newton over the next few years.

Playoffs
11-28-2012, 11:36 AM
Duane Brown vs. 3 silver helmets...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg
...Duane wins.

Texan_Bill
11-28-2012, 11:38 AM
Just tweeted:

Lance Zierlein‏@LanceZierlein

Antoine Caldwell is 3rd in Pro Bowl voting while Duane Brown is 4th. Uh........... okay


WTF?????

Scooter
11-28-2012, 11:41 AM
Duane Brown vs. 3 silver helmets...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg
...Duane wins.

3 lions already on the ground, duane will add 3 more himself by the time arian gets to the goalline ... i think that's a pretty good recipe for a successful run game.

"myers you have the DT, wade cut any persuit, newton try not to hold anybody, jones ... jones? anybody home?, ok and duane you have the right end, the sam linebacker, the middle linebacker, and the strong safety ... ready BREAK!"

TheIronDuke
11-28-2012, 11:42 AM
Wait, wait. This can't be right. Isn't this the same guy that I knew was a bust his rookie year (just like everybody else)?

Next thing your gonna tell me is that Kareem Jackson isn't bust either. Bradie James, Alan Ball?

No, no. I think I will just continue to judge these things quickly. After all, no one gets better with practice, effort, and coaching.

You do realize that James and Ball are neither drafted by the Texans or in the early part of their careers, right?

GlassHalfFull
11-28-2012, 12:02 PM
3 lions already on the ground, duane will add 3 more himself by the time arian gets to the goalline ... i think that's a pretty good recipe for a successful run game.

"myers you have the DT, wade cut any persuit, newton try not to hold anybody, jones ... jones? anybody home?, ok and duane you have the right end, the sam linebacker, the middle linebacker, and the strong safety ... ready BREAK!"

LOL, love the huddle call.

My son was trying to give Casey credit for the blocking on that play. I had to correct him and tell him it was all DB.

76Texan
11-28-2012, 12:08 PM
Just another bust defended by the obnoxious 76Texan.
Still remember some folks called me an excuse-maker when I put some of those sacks on the QB. :kitten:

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 12:08 PM
Pretty darn impressive.

Duane Brown has now passed every other OT drafted ahead of him in the 2008 NFL Draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_NFL_Draft). (Although I think Ryan Clady is right there with him.)

eh..... I think it's still subjective. For what they do, the Broncos probably wouldn't trade Clady for the world. I'm just happy we've got a good one.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 12:12 PM
Just tweeted:

Lance Zierlein‏@LanceZierlein

Antoine Caldwell is 3rd in Pro Bowl voting while Duane Brown is 4th. Uh........... okay

WTF?????

There's got to be antoher player out there named Caldwell...


Gots to be.

HOU-TEX
11-28-2012, 12:15 PM
Just another bust defended by the obnoxious 76Texan.
Still remember some folks called me an excuse-maker when I put some of those sacks on the QB. :kitten:

http://www.trophyshop.com.au/images/INTER/First-Ribbon.jpg

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 12:15 PM
LOL, love the huddle call.

My son was trying to give Casey credit for the blocking on that play. I had to correct him and tell him it was all DB.

As much as I like DB, there's a whole lot of right on that play.


Arian Foster being patient & staying behind the big guy
Garrett Graham swinging the edge rusher outside, out of the play, & maintaining that block until the runner is well past him
The backside of the line cut off all backside pursuit
James Casey doesn't allow anyone on Brown's backside.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg

76Texan
11-28-2012, 12:23 PM
http://www.trophyshop.com.au/images/INTER/First-Ribbon.jpg

You're too kind Sir!
I was simply asking for patience.
There are diamonds in the rough, but they all need polishing, right?

GlassHalfFull
11-28-2012, 12:24 PM
As much as I like DB, there's a whole lot of right on that play.


Arian Foster being patient & staying behind the big guy
Garrett Graham swinging the edge rusher outside, out of the play, & maintaining that block until the runner is well past him
The backside of the line cut off all backside pursuit
James Casey doesn't allow anyone on Brown's backside.




I knew when I typed it that the "all" was overstated. I was just too anxious to prove I can correct my boys when they are wrong. :kitten:

76Texan
11-28-2012, 12:25 PM
As much as I like DB, there's a whole lot of right on that play.


Arian Foster being patient & staying behind the big guy
Garrett Graham swinging the edge rusher outside, out of the play, & maintaining that block until the runner is well past him
The backside of the line cut off all backside pursuit
James Casey doesn't allow anyone on Brown's backside.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg
yes sir, it takes more than one guy, but it also helps a lot that the guy at the POA wins big.

HOU-TEX
11-28-2012, 12:41 PM
You're too kind Sir!
I was simply asking for patience.
There are diamonds in the rough, but they all need polishing, right?

Yeah, I's just ribbin ya

I still give myself ribbons on getting Revis right. Ha

I've never been one to complain about our draft picks during draft time. I actually liked the DB, Watt, Barwin, D-Ryans, etc picks. However, I liked the Travis Johnson, Harris and Slaton picks too....so what the heck do I know

76Texan
11-28-2012, 12:54 PM
Yeah, I's just ribbin ya

I still give myself ribbons on getting Revis right. Ha

I've never been one to complain about our draft picks during draft time. I actually liked the DB, Watt, Barwin, D-Ryans, etc picks. However, I liked the Travis Johnson, Harris and Slaton picks too....so what the heck do I know

Actually, I think Slatom was a good pick in the third; I was only begging the coaches not to run him inside as much. We were running too much inside zone and it was not Slaton's strongest suit. Always said he's a poor man Reggie Bush.
More stretch run like we've been doing the last few years would have saved some of the concussions he took.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Actually, I think Slatom was a good pick in the third; I was only begging the coaches not to run him inside as much. We were running too much inside zone and it was not Slaton's strongest suit. Always said he's a poor man Reggie Bush.
More stretch run like we've been doing the last few years would have saved some of the concussions he took.

We weren't very good at the stretch run then.

76Texan
11-28-2012, 01:06 PM
Travis was before my time of studying game tapes; I only asked people to forget about his draft status. I saw him as an effective guy in a rotation; never thought of him as a legit starter.

Brandon Harris, just like Caldwell, my take was that he won't replace Jackson just as Caldwell won't replace Myers; I even said that Caldwell had a long way to go to replace Brisiel (in his second year). During that PS, some posters asked for my take and that was what I said (quite a few people still had high hope for him at the time.)

Caldwell is a pretty good player; I never sold him short. I just thought that both Myers and Brisiel were quite better at the time.

A healthy Caldwell is quite better than the rookie Ben Jones.
Problem is Caldwell has seen a lot of down time.
As an O-lineman, you can't afford much down time.
The chemistry, especially in the ZBS, doesn't tolerate that.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 01:10 PM
Brandon Harris, just like Caldwell, my take was that he won't replace Jackson

Jackson doesn't need to replace Jackson... just Ball. Or maybe Bryce (sp?)

76Texan
11-28-2012, 01:12 PM
We weren't very good at the stretch run then.

But we were. We just didn't run much of it as We were wanting to get the line to function well in the ZBS. We were very adamant about the back taking the first cut upfield so we simply employed a whole lot more inside zone.

Thorn
11-28-2012, 01:14 PM
Wait, wait. This can't be right. Isn't this the same guy that I knew was a bust his rookie year (just like everybody else)?

Next thing your gonna tell me is that Kareem Jackson isn't bust either. Bradie James, Alan Ball?

No, no. I think I will just continue to judge these things quickly. After all, no one gets better with practice, effort, and coaching.

Yep. Reminds me of the times when I said Vince Young was our future, Schaub wasn't worth one 2nd round pick let alone two, and that Kubiak would never get the Texans past a 500 season.

I'm pretty damn good at player/coach evaluations myself. :lol:

Playoffs
11-28-2012, 01:16 PM
"myers you have the DT, wade cut any persuit, newton try not to hold anybody, jones ... jones? anybody home?, ok and duane you have the right end, the sam linebacker, the middle linebacker, and the strong safety ... ready BREAK!"
:ahhaha:

76Texan
11-28-2012, 01:18 PM
We weren't very good at the stretch run then.

But we were. We just didn't run much of it as We were wanting to get the line to function well in the ZBS. We were very adamant about the back taking the first cut upfield so we simply employed a whole lot more inside zone.

I'm not at a place where I can put up links, but if you go to Football Outsiders and check on Offensive line in those years; we ran a ton more inside.

76Texan
11-28-2012, 01:28 PM
Check out how we gained more in 08 and 09 on the edges than we did in 2010 and 2011. Crazy right?

Dutchrudder
11-28-2012, 02:06 PM
Duane Brown vs. 3 silver helmets...

https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg
...Duane wins.

It looks even better in motion...

http://youtu.be/DYLG9jxwhiw?t=49m49s

Specnatz
11-28-2012, 02:15 PM
I remember the reaction on draft day for us taking him and my thread in which I went off on a tirade towards the folks bad mouthing the pick.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 03:16 PM
I honestly don't think I had an opinion of him till last year, when he took Harrison out of the game.

srrono
11-28-2012, 04:46 PM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/28/analysis-notebook-week-12-2/



Large story with pics and breakdown of career

BigBull17
11-28-2012, 04:48 PM
As much as I like DB, there's a whole lot of right on that play.


Arian Foster being patient & staying behind the big guy
Garrett Graham swinging the edge rusher outside, out of the play, & maintaining that block until the runner is well past him
The backside of the line cut off all backside pursuit
James Casey doesn't allow anyone on Brown's backside.


https://www.profootballfocus.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/2012wk12ply1a.jpg

It's not Casey's fault Brown is like an angry grizzly and has slaughtered the Lions already. Man's doing his job.

Kaiser Toro
11-29-2012, 12:19 AM
Good read on the build up to the 2008 draft - http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49512&highlight=Duane+brown

Specnatz
11-29-2012, 02:18 AM
Good read on the build up to the 2008 draft - http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49512&highlight=Duane+brown

Yes there is that and here the reaction to the pick.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49757&highlight=2008+draft

Specnatz
11-29-2012, 02:40 AM
if he turns into a franchise LT, i'll eat my texans hat live on webcam.


When is the event?

HOU-TEX
11-29-2012, 10:28 AM
Yes there is that and here the reaction to the pick.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49757&highlight=2008+draft

Heh, more proof showing how much of a moron swt was. That cat knee-jerked every draft

76Texan
11-29-2012, 11:57 AM
Heh, more proof showing how much of a moron swt was. That cat knee-jerked every draft

When is the event?

He did show up to take his serving of crow a year or two later.

76Texan
11-29-2012, 12:02 PM
Good read on the build up to the 2008 draft - http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49512&highlight=Duane+brown

Ah, I remember YoungTexanFan; he's a college fan of the Kansas Jayhawks I believe. His takes on football overall was pretty good.

On this one, I had a lengthy debate with him right after the draft; and so we agreed to let time decide the issue. He's not around much anymore.
Think I saw him in the college forum once in a blue moon.