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Lurvinator11
11-27-2012, 03:05 PM
Per Schefter

Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Philadelphia Eagles announced they have released DE Jason Babin.

Dutchrudder
11-27-2012, 03:08 PM
Holy crap! From chump to champ and back to chump.

Eagles release Jason Babin. Will owe remaining balance of $5.6M salary, $1.64M, if he is not claimed on waivers.

We could actually fit him under the cap this year if we wanted to. How would he do as a 3-4 DE? Can he play anything other than a wide 9?

Exascor
11-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Holy crap! From chump to champ and back to chump.



We could actually fit him under the cap this year if we wanted to. How would he do as a 3-4 DE? Can he play anything other than a wide 9?He weighs 260ish. Doubt that's big enough.

thunderkyss
11-27-2012, 03:10 PM
Holy crap! From chump to champ and back to chump.



We could actually fit him under the cap this year if we wanted to. How would he do as a 3-4 DE? Can he play anything other than a wide 9?

Too small. We'd want to make him an OLB.... a WOLB which he didn't do to well at for us before. With Wade though....


interesting why they let him go.

Dutchrudder
11-27-2012, 03:17 PM
Too small. We'd want to make him an OLB.... a WOLB which he didn't do to well at for us before. With Wade though....


interesting why they let him go.

It's probably a financial decision. If he gets picked up, they save 1.64 million in capspace this year, which can be rolled over into 2013. The season is over for them, so might as well start looking ahead to next year.

Playoffs
11-27-2012, 03:21 PM
A one trick pony who just got dumped by said pony. No thanks.

Lurvinator11
11-27-2012, 03:22 PM
It's probably a financial decision. If he gets picked up, they save 1.64 million in capspace this year, which can be rolled over into 2013. The season is over for them, so might as well start looking ahead to next year.

It's also a sign of things to come for The Eagles.

That organization is getting blown up this off season.

HOU-TEX
11-27-2012, 03:28 PM
I keyed on him several times last night. Boy, what a difference a season makes. He simply looked lost on the field, like he really didn't care to be out there. There'd be times he looked to have his man beat then make a strange move that would take him completely out of the play. It was weird, like a chicken with it's head cut off kinda weird.

Bulls on Parade
11-27-2012, 03:38 PM
A guy with 5.5 sacks, 18 sacks and 12.5 sacks the past three seasons. Hmm, I'm interested regardless. I could care less about his smaller size. Antonio Smith is doing little lately and if that worries you then let him play some snaps at OLB instead of RE.

HoustonFrog
11-27-2012, 03:42 PM
I keyed on him several times last night. Boy, what a difference a season makes. He simply looked lost on the field, like he really didn't care to be out there. There'd be times he looked to have his man beat then make a strange move that would take him completely out of the play. It was weird, like a chicken with it's head cut off kinda weird.

I was reading Twitter and one guy who reports fantasy news and talks to NFL people said one personnel guy told him that most if his sacks last year were "cherry picked." I'm not sure how you can luckily cherry pick 18 sacks but that was the message.

From Eric Edholm @eric_edholm

I'll say this: One pro personnel guy bashed Jason Babin up and down to me ... last year. After 18 sacks. Called him a cherry picker. FWIW...

Dutchrudder
11-27-2012, 03:43 PM
I keyed on him several times last night. Boy, what a difference a season makes. He simply looked lost on the field, like he really didn't care to be out there. There'd be times he looked to have his man beat then make a strange move that would take him completely out of the play. It was weird, like a chicken with it's head cut off kinda weird.

Well given that their defense has taken a nose dive since firing Juan Castillo, I would think the "chicken with its head cut off" is an apt description for the team. That was a really stupid move on Reid's part this year, even more so than hiring the O-line coach as DC in the first place. In any case, I would chalk up the poor play to poor coaching and the turmoil in the organization this year. I think he'll go elsewhere and be much more productive. Rumors are Tampa, Detroit and Cincy could be interested, which would put him as a 4-3 DE pass rusher. That would probably fit his play style more so than a 3-4 like the Texans.

Bulls on Parade
11-27-2012, 03:44 PM
If the Eagles let DeMeco go next we got to bring him back.

Hervoyel
11-27-2012, 03:55 PM
Absolutely. Babin I don't know about though. On one hand I thought the Texans parted with him just as he was starting to turn the corner. On the other he had all of his success when he went back to playing in a 4-3. On still another (three hands?) you got Wade Phillips and if you're good at something he'll put you in a position to do that so maybe he could make something happen here with Babin again.

If the Texans choose to go after him it's because they know what they want to do with him and I trust them. If they don't bother then I trust that decision too.

But DeMeco would come back here and make some noise.

TheIronDuke
11-27-2012, 04:01 PM
Probably has a steroid suspension looming. Yes, that is all hearsay. I'm just saying that he took steroids probably.

Dutchrudder
11-27-2012, 04:03 PM
If the Eagles let DeMeco go next we got to bring him back.

Right now, I would love to get him back, but the trade deadline has passed. I can't see him going unclaimed if he was released right now. His remaining salary would be around 1.05 million for the rest of the season and the future years of of his contract are not be guaranteed. So there's just about no risk for a team to pick him up and keep him this year. Too bad, he would be perfect to have on our team right now :(

Next offseason, I could see us trying to get him, but he's probably too expensive for us.

silentassassin
11-27-2012, 04:04 PM
I fully expect Vick and Asomugha to suffer the same fate in the offseason.

BullNation4Life
11-27-2012, 04:05 PM
Didn't the Kubiak regime trade him to Seattle?

TheIronDuke
11-27-2012, 04:06 PM
Didn't the Kubiak regime trade him to Seattle?

Yes but Michael Boulware was pretty beastly! :kubepalm:

Hervoyel
11-27-2012, 04:09 PM
Didn't the Kubiak regime trade him to Seattle?

Babin, correct. They traded him for a safety (Boulware) who didn't work out either (just looked, I was wrong. Seattle kept him until 2008). I think both teams cut their respective players before the season even ended.

Babin had come back into camp lean though and was actually having what I thought was his best camp ever.

eriadoc
11-27-2012, 04:13 PM
Babin, correct. They traded him for a safety (Boulware) who didn't work out either (just looked, I was wrong. Seattle kept him until 2008). I think both teams cut their respective players before the season even ended.

Babin had come back into camp lean though and was actually having what I thought was his best camp ever.

Yeah, I thought it was a pretty stupid trade based on talent and potential, but it was hard to give much of a damn at the time. I think Kubiak just wanted him gone for other reasons and dealt him.

Hervoyel
11-27-2012, 04:17 PM
Yeah, I thought it was a pretty stupid trade based on talent and potential, but it was hard to give much of a damn at the time. I think Kubiak just wanted him gone for other reasons and dealt him.


At the time I remember some kind of BS comment from either Rick or Gary about trying to get help where we were thin and having to give up something where we we had depth. I felt like we traded a better player than some we kept. It kind of led me to believe that there was a reason they decided he wasn't going to be a Texan any longer. At various points in time when he's been out there the Texans haven't really been interested so that kind of makes me think they just don't want the guy which is fine I guess. I'm reading a lot into it but that's my impression.

BullNation4Life
11-27-2012, 04:22 PM
At the time I remember some kind of BS comment from either Rick or Gary about trying to get help where we were thin and having to give up something where we we had depth. I felt like we traded a better player than some we kept. It kind of led me to believe that there was a reason they decided he wasn't going to be a Texan any longer. At various points in time when he's been out there the Texans haven't really been interested so that kind of makes me think they just don't want the guy which is fine I guess. I'm reading a lot into it but that's my impression.

If memory serves me he said something along the lines of "You have to give up something to get something in this league and we decided with the depth at DE that Jason was the talent we had to give up in order to fill a need at Safety."

not verbatim but I remember the interview...

srrono
11-27-2012, 04:40 PM
I just hope no AFC playoff bound team picks him up. I can see it now AFC Championship game Babin 3 sacks for NE. NE wins! Ouch nightmare.

IDEXAN
11-27-2012, 04:47 PM
I just hope we don't have to play against him this weekend ?

badboy
11-27-2012, 04:49 PM
I just hope we don't have to play against him this weekend ?Better against Titans than Patriots. imo

Hervoyel
11-27-2012, 04:50 PM
I just hope we don't have to play against him this weekend ?

We will. The Titans are needy enough and bad enough to claim him and get him. No worries though. I imagine after this season in Philadelphia he's ready to shut it down and go to the house until training camp (wherever that may be). Unless he's picked up by a team that's rolling and headed to the playoffs I bet he goes full turtle for the rest of the year.

Rey
11-27-2012, 04:53 PM
I'd pick him up.

I think we'd have a good shot to do so since there probably aren't many teams ahead of us on the wire that need him and still have play-off hopes.

TheIronDuke
11-27-2012, 04:56 PM
Didn't he bad-mouth the Texans after he was traded? I know he was a punk when he was with the Tacks when they beat us, didn't he take the game-winning kneel-down or am I mis-remembering? I just remember him really getting fired up to play us, but that could've been the steroids he was on at the time, allegedly.

infantrycak
11-27-2012, 05:07 PM
Yeah, I thought it was a pretty stupid trade based on talent and potential, but it was hard to give much of a damn at the time. I think Kubiak just wanted him gone for other reasons and dealt him.

I spent about four hours with him one time. He was an ahole. I would not be surprised at all if Kubiak just wanted him gone.

Rudyball
11-27-2012, 05:40 PM
the released Babin - we should pick him up for the stretch run - can't have enough line backers they say

Wolf6151
11-27-2012, 05:42 PM
There's already a thread on this in the NFL section.

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=96480


JMO, Hell NO.

Allstar
11-27-2012, 05:42 PM
Zerlein seems to think both the Texans and Packers should be interested in him.

Exascor
11-27-2012, 05:43 PM
Here's some talk about it: Babin Cut Thread (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=96480)

Texans_Chick
11-27-2012, 06:26 PM
I spent about four hours with him one time. He was an ahole. I would not be surprised at all if Kubiak just wanted him gone.

Avert your eyes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8vER4ICIAAjomG.png:large

/Babin tweeted this picture to show ESPN he should be in the "Body Issue." If there were the d-bag issue, he'd be a shoe in. Yuck.

Double Barrel
11-27-2012, 06:29 PM
He's obviously not "Houston Texan-worthy". :dontknowa

NastyNate
11-27-2012, 09:18 PM
Avert your eyes.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8vER4ICIAAjomG.png:large

/Babin tweeted this picture to show ESPN he should be in the "Body Issue." If there were the d-bag issue, he'd be a shoe in. Yuck.

Ahhh, tribal tattoos, a timeless example of classy body art :sarcasm:

JimBaker488
11-27-2012, 11:18 PM
I spent about four hours with him one time. He was an ahole. I would not be surprised at all if Kubiak just wanted him gone.
If he's an ahole, why would you remain in his company for 4 hours ?

Lucky
11-27-2012, 11:52 PM
Can he play anything other than a wide 9?
I don't know. Babin complained about playing in the 3-4 under Capers. And there was some bad blood between him and the Texans (especially their medical staff). Not sure if there is interest from either party.
I spent about four hours with him one time. He was an ahole. I would not be surprised at all if Kubiak just wanted him gone.
I never met Babin, but I used to tailgate next to his family. Nice and fun loving bunch, especially his mom. Probably skips a generation.
If he's an ahole, why would you remain in his company for 4 hours ?
I think it was in a professional capacity.

infantrycak
11-28-2012, 12:00 AM
I never met Babin, but I used to tailgate next to his family. Nice and fun loving bunch, especially his mom. Probably skips a generation..

I don't doubt it. I met one of his best friends as well and he seemed distinctly uncomfortable with Babin's behavior.

Now mind you our meeting came in the context of my making Babin's wallet lighter on behalf of a contractor he stiffed at his ranch. But in the context of 20 years of such dealings he stood out as an ahole and a liar.

JimBaker488
11-28-2012, 08:33 AM
I don't know. Babin complained about playing in the 3-4 under Capers. And there was some bad blood between him and the Texans (especially their medical staff). Not sure if there is interest from either party.

I never met Babin, but I used to tailgate next to his family. Nice and fun loving bunch, especially his mom. Probably skips a generation.

I think it was in a professional capacity.
I doubt Babin would ever return to Houston to be on its roster, my recollection is that he's a prideful man and now a wealthy man who is bitter about missed opportunities and wasted years here.
But I remember reading many positive things about Babin and his family, and
Babin is very much about family. And I remember the stories of Babin eating the chiken bones before he played a game in HS ? At one time Babin was greatly admired by Houston fans as a high-motor guy who didn't take plays off.
"Professional capacity." ? What capacity ? Hooker and john ? Don't know ?

Kaiser Toro
11-28-2012, 08:43 AM
His Tasmanian Devil spin move could change the rotation of toilet flushes in Reliant last decade.

Don't want.

Texan_Bill
11-28-2012, 08:49 AM
*Adam Sandler voide*

NOOOOOooooooo!

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 09:27 AM
The story is now that they released him because he quit on the team.

No link, just heard it on the radio (97.5) all morning.

GP
11-28-2012, 09:34 AM
Kubiak wants no part of this guy. One of the biggest reaches in Texans draft history. We traded UP to get him, and our trading partner was Bud Adams' team.

Babin is a documented ass hat, too.

He wouldn't help us. He'd cost the team money, around $1.something million dollars for his remaining salary he's due, he's a jerk, and he's no better than Barwin in terms of flashing potential and then going dark the rest of the time.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 09:38 AM
He wouldn't help us. He'd cost the team money, around $1.something million dollars for his remaining salary he's due, he's a jerk, and he's no better than Barwin in terms of flashing potential and then going dark the rest of the time.

If he clears waivers, we can get him for the vet minimum.

We've given plenty other players the benefit of the doubt & blamed coaching for our previous issues. Babin has managed to stay in the league a "long" time & has had some success.

With our current coaching staff, who knows?

But wasn't Kollar the DL coach when we released Babin? As an OLB he'd probably spend more time with Herring... so I don't know.

I & the staff probably have high expectations of Mercilus, so we'll probably wait it out for that reason alone.

ChampionTexan
11-28-2012, 09:50 AM
If he clears waivers, we can get him for the vet minimum.

We've given plenty other players the benefit of the doubt & blamed coaching for our previous issues. Babin has managed to stay in the league a "long" time & has had some success.

With our current coaching staff, who knows?

But wasn't Kollar the DL coach when we released Babin? As an OLB he'd probably spend more time with Herring... so I don't know.

I & the staff probably have high expectations of Mercilus, so we'll probably wait it out for that reason alone.

Babin was traded prior to the 2007 season. Kollar's first season with the Texans was 2009.

Something tells me that if he's going to get the vet minimum (and my guess is someone claims him off of waivers), there's lots of teams Babin would play for before he'd sign with the Kubiak/Smith tandem that's running the Texans.

GP
11-28-2012, 09:51 AM
If he clears waivers, we can get him for the vet minimum.

We've given plenty other players the benefit of the doubt & blamed coaching for our previous issues. Babin has managed to stay in the league a "long" time & has had some success.

With our current coaching staff, who knows?

But wasn't Kollar the DL coach when we released Babin? As an OLB he'd probably spend more time with Herring... so I don't know.

I & the staff probably have high expectations of Mercilus, so we'll probably wait it out for that reason alone.

Andrew Brandt says whatever team picks him up this year will take a $1.64 million CAP hit. Pretty sure that it means the new team gets a cap hit, I can't see why the league would hit the Eagles for $1.64 million if he's not on their roster anymore.

I don't see the Texans using that amount of cap space for him.

adbrandt Andrew Brandt
$1.64M. RT @Wade_Harrison If claimed, what's the new team cap hit for Babin? Original 5.5 or 1.6 balance?

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 09:53 AM
Andrew Brandt says whatever team picks him up this year will take a $1.64 million CAP hit.

I don't see the Texans spending that for him.

adbrandt Andrew Brandt
$1.64M. RT @Wade_Harrison If claimed, what's the new team cap hit for Babin? Original 5.5 or 1.6 balance?

If claimed off waivers. I wouldn't doubt that some team will pick him up off waivers but now that the word is out that he quit on his team, they'd have to be pretty desperate. Maybe Buffalo. Maybe Tennessee. But they're done. Why would they spend anything on a player to help them finish with a losing record.

If he clears waivers, he'll get vet minimum.

Rey
11-28-2012, 09:55 AM
At the time I remember some kind of BS comment from either Rick or Gary about trying to get help where we were thin and having to give up something where we we had depth. I felt like we traded a better player than some we kept. It kind of led me to believe that there was a reason they decided he wasn't going to be a Texan any longer. At various points in time when he's been out there the Texans haven't really been interested so that kind of makes me think they just don't want the guy which is fine I guess. I'm reading a lot into it but that's my impression.

I heard earlier today that Babin said he wasn't going to play LB anymore and if he wasn't played as a DE he wasn't going to play in games....

If that is true, that's why they traded him....

And no way he's coming back.

And I'm also hearing that Philly didn't want him playing the wide 9 anymore so they could play the run better...He refused...

Wth kind of $^i# is that?

Playoffs
11-28-2012, 11:02 AM
A one trick pony who just got dumped by said pony. No thanks.

Hugh Douglas, ESPN analyst/former Eagles DE on Jason Babin:

"He quit. He quit on this Eagles team. If he gets another job, I mean, congratulations to him. ... I would be surprised when other teams put that tape on, I would be surprised if he got another job. That's real talk from a guy that has played the position."


Brian Dawkins: These last time the Eagles let a guy go when they needed everybody on deck, all the help they could, get was T.O. (Terrell Owens).

eriadoc
11-28-2012, 11:35 AM
I heard earlier today that Babin said he wasn't going to play LB anymore and if he wasn't played as a DE he wasn't going to play in games....

If that is true, that's why they traded him....

And no way he's coming back.

And I'm also hearing that Philly didn't want him playing the wide 9 anymore so they could play the run better...He refused...

Wth kind of $^i# is that?

That makes perfect sense. He was never any good at doing anything but getting after the QB. If he had been used as a situational pass rusher for his entire career, he could be one of those guys that stuck around as depth on a roster for a dozen years. But being drafted in the first round killed that, and it sounds like his ego/attitude/maturity won't let him properly assess his own place in the NFL.

I think Hugh Douglas is right - he's done in the NFL.

srrono
11-28-2012, 12:34 PM
At 1.64 mil Texans should take a chance on Babin. This is all predicated on Coach Phillips thoughts on Babin. Here is my main reason if Watt goes down (knock on wood) we are screwed. We need more pass rushers even if situational. When the Texans shipped Babin out the Defensive staff was completely different. Give Phillips more weapons. Texans can cut him if need too. Really where is the downside. Texans have given up 795 yds passing in last 2 games.

Watt 14.5
Smith 4.0
Mercilus 3.0
Reed 2.5
Barwin 2.0
Manning 1.0
Quin 1.0
Jamison 1.0
James 0.5
McCain 0.5

GP
11-28-2012, 12:36 PM
At 1.64 mil Texans should take a chance on Babin. This is all predicated on Coach Phillips thoughts on Babin. Here is my main reason if Watt goes down (knock on wood) we are screwed. We need more pass rushers even if situational. When the Texans shipped Babin out the Defensive staff was completely different. Give Phillips more weapons. Texans can cut him if need too. Really where is the downside.


Yeah, but the Babin weapon ends up looking like this to the d-coord who holds it.


http://godsownparty.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Bent-Barrel.jpg

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 12:38 PM
At 1.64 mil Texans should take a chance on Babin. This is all predicated on Coach Phillips thoughts on Babin. Here is my main reason if Watt goes down (knock on wood) we are screwed. We need more pass rushers even if situational.

I want to fall on that side, but I know Kubiak would never let him play if he's got the attitude people are saying. If Watt goes down, Smith goes down, & Merci goes down & we have Babin & two other guys as LBs... he won't play if Babin isn't a true pro.

I know a lot of people think this is Wade's call, but I believe Brandon Harris is on our sideline because of Kubiak.

Exascor
11-28-2012, 12:42 PM
I know a lot of people think this is Wade's call, but I believe Brandon Harris is on our sideline because of Kubiak.Based on what? Just curious...

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 12:46 PM
Based on what? Just curious...

Nothing solid, just my gut.

I can't believe a guy they wanted in the second round doesn't have the talent to get on the field. They brought in Alan Ball to get real snaps, they had Jason Allen getting real snaps.

I'm sure he's got issues..... but so does Kareem and Brice but they never wavered from starting them.

Exascor
11-28-2012, 12:57 PM
Nothing solid, just my gut.

I can't believe a guy they wanted in the second round doesn't have the talent to get on the field. They brought in Alan Ball to get real snaps, they had Jason Allen getting real snaps.

I'm sure he's got issues..... but so does Kareem and Brice but they never wavered from starting them.So you think that Phillips wants to play him but Kubiak overrides him then? Meh - this is off topic for this thread. Not sure I can see your take on that one though. :thinking:

GP
11-28-2012, 01:03 PM
Nothing solid, just my gut.

I can't believe a guy they wanted in the second round doesn't have the talent to get on the field. They brought in Alan Ball to get real snaps, they had Jason Allen getting real snaps.

I'm sure he's got issues..... but so does Kareem and Brice but they never wavered from starting them.

Seniority.

Kubiak is very big on seniority. Whereas a lot of teams will play the best man, Kubiak will 99% of the time keep a more senior player out there and make the younger guy stay as depth and wait until injury to the older guy....even if the older guy is older by 1 year.

Almost like an old-school college coach who makes freshmen sit and seniors are starters unless there's not senior at a position...and THEN he's gonna' have a junior at that spot, etc.

Now, this isn't true across the board. Obviously Foster is the starter and he's younger than Forsett...but honestly Foster is the main RB because his talent is so much more advanced than Tate and Forsett. But you put Forsett and Tate side by side, and due to their role being similar and production being similar, Kubiak is siding with the veteran here and telling the young guy to buck up.

Kubiak is developing that talent, and I think Brandon Harris is on the sideline for that same reason. Kareem, JJo, Ball, McCain...all these guys were in the secondary before Harris was IIRC. There's a method to Kubiak's madness. I think it's one of the reasons the locker room is as healthy as it is. Until somebody rocks the boat, maybe? Then Kubiak goes and lays down a little smack in the media, righting the ship a little if it needs it. Just my guess.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 01:08 PM
Seniority.

Kubiak is developing that talent, and I think Brandon Harris is on the sideline for that same reason. Kareem, JJo, Ball, McCain...all these guys were in the secondary before Harris was IIRC.

Not Ball.

GP
11-28-2012, 01:17 PM
Not Ball.

He's been in the league longer, though. Right?

It doesn't matter if it was with another team. Kubiak wants veterans if they are competent enough to be out there. A jumpy young guy can cost the team, and a veteran (while he might not be as PURELY talented as the young guy) is less likely to lose his head out there and go crazy over a series of plays.

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 01:24 PM
He's been in the league longer, though. Right?

It doesn't matter if it was with another team. Kubiak wants veterans if they are competent enough to be out there. A jumpy young guy can cost the team, and a veteran (while he might not be as PURELY talented as the young guy) is less likely to lose his head out there and go crazy over a series of plays.

eh.... Harris is a second round pick, he should be a difference maker. Even Kubiak would put a play-maker on the field before a role-player.

Goatcheese
11-28-2012, 01:29 PM
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2012/11/27/jason-babin-trash-to-treasure/

GP
11-28-2012, 01:31 PM
eh.... Harris is a second round pick, he should be a difference maker. Even Kubiak would put a play-maker on the field before a role-player.

Babin was a trade-up-for-a-1st rounder and look where that got him. Traded out of here. And won't be coming back.

if Kubiak values draft position that badly, he never would have had Jason Allen sharing snaps 50-50 with KJ last season. I think Harris is valued, but he's being brought along slowly. He's still under a rookie contract, so it's not like he's burning up a lot of salary space every season either.

We're seeing more of him this season. If things go south with other CBs, he'll be out there. Then he'll have another camp to show his growth level. Or not.

Errant Hothy
11-28-2012, 04:20 PM
Babin is now a Jag per Schefter's twitter

srrono
11-28-2012, 04:24 PM
Pro Football Weekly ‏@ProFootballWkly
RT @Eric_Edholm: Will be curious to see what other teams placed claims on Jason Babin. Heard number was 7-10.

ChampionTexan
11-28-2012, 04:32 PM
If claimed off waivers. I wouldn't doubt that some team will pick him up off waivers but now that the word is out that he quit on his team, they'd have to be pretty desperate.

Actually, "Quit" is probably one of the least likely things to keep a team from picking him up off waivers. Think about it from a Head Coach/General Manager standpoint:

Bad knee/neck/shoulder etc. - I can't fix that
Older than dirt - I can't fix that
Too stupid to understand the scheme - you can't fix stupid
Not enough talent/athletic ability to succeed - I can't fix that
Crappy attitude - I CAN fix that.

Not saying I believe it, but I'm guessing there's more than few coaches in the NFL who do.

Also, Babin's under contract for three more years, and to tie down a guy who's less than one season removed from 18 sacks for less than $6 Million a year with the caveat that you can walk away for nothing after a 5 game $1.6 Million test drive may not be a bad gamble.

srrono
11-28-2012, 04:38 PM
Aaron Nagler ‏@Aaron_Nagler
RT @RavensInsider Among the teams that tried to get Jason Babin: Browns, Chargers, Raiders and Dolphins

2012Champs
11-28-2012, 04:48 PM
espn reporting the jags claimed him

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8687541/jason-babin-claimed-jacksonville-jaguars-waivers

srrono
11-28-2012, 04:54 PM
aron Nagler ‏@Aaron_Nagler

"Approximately 10 playoff contenders were ready to make a run at Babin had he cleared waivers." @MikeGarafolo

TexanSam
11-28-2012, 05:09 PM
So he goes from a bad Eagles team to arguably the worst team in the league? If he quit on Philly then I be he refuses to even leave the bench with the Jags.

thunderkyss
12-04-2012, 08:43 AM
So the Eagles fired Jim Washburn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/wires/12/03/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.washburn.fired.1st.ld.writethru .0485/index.html).

Makes me wonder what the real reason for them cutting Babin. You know we've heard the rumors that Babin quit, didn't like the "new direction" wasn't being a team player.

Then they fire his position coach.

What's up with that?

Specnatz
12-04-2012, 03:34 PM
So the Eagles fired Jim Washburn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/wires/12/03/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.washburn.fired.1st.ld.writethru .0485/index.html).

Makes me wonder what the real reason for them cutting Babin. You know we've heard the rumors that Babin quit, didn't like the "new direction" wasn't being a team player.

Then they fire his position coach.

What's up with that?

Saw a report where he was calling the fired D coordinator a fem version of his name in front of his position players.

The Pencil Neck
12-04-2012, 04:58 PM
So the Eagles fired Jim Washburn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/wires/12/03/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.washburn.fired.1st.ld.writethru .0485/index.html).

Makes me wonder what the real reason for them cutting Babin. You know we've heard the rumors that Babin quit, didn't like the "new direction" wasn't being a team player.

Then they fire his position coach.

What's up with that?

Wasn't Washburn supposed to be the reason Babin went to the Eagles?

Playoffs
12-04-2012, 06:49 PM
So the Eagles fired Jim Washburn (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/football/nfl/wires/12/03/2020.ap.fbn.eagles.washburn.fired.1st.ld.writethru .0485/index.html).

What's up with that?
Washburn sounds like a real problem.

He called DC Juan Castillo "Juanita" out loud, every time, in front of everyone. He was openly critical of the offensive playcalling & other coaches. Sounds more like Buddy Ryan. Plus, his Wide 9 front favored getting sacks over stopping the run.

I guess the Eagles got tired of babysitting a childish, divisive coach.