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TheIronDuke
11-23-2012, 09:01 PM
Hoping Nitro reads this post, could use a lip reader. Looks like Watt was super pissed. Anyone heard what this was about?

76Texan
11-23-2012, 09:04 PM
Hoping Nitro reads this post, could use a lip reader. Looks like Watt was super pissed. Anyone heard what this was about?

Go to the game day thread, page 60

dream_team
11-23-2012, 09:04 PM
He posted his interpretation in another thread already. Sorry, forgot which one.

TexansFanatic
11-23-2012, 09:06 PM
Watt was yelling: "I know the play!"

Looked like Kollar may have reprimanded Watt for missing his assignment and Watt was defending himself.

Corrosion
11-23-2012, 09:13 PM
Nitro's post - Link (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2064730&postcount=1195)


Let me put my lipreading skills to good use here... After reviewing the video several times, I feel very confident this is what was said... word for word. I was only able to catch Kollar saying two words but his back was to the screen most of the time. Those two words were fuc*ing and gap. Luckily, it appears that Watt is pretty easy for me to lipread...

JJ Watt: I was playing the double! I played it bad!

JJ Watt interrupting Kollar: I knew the play!

Kollar speaking again but JJ Watt interrupts again: I KNOW THE PLAY!


Thanks for the translation ...

EllisUnit
11-23-2012, 09:15 PM
Hoping Nitro reads this post, could use a lip reader. Looks like Watt was super pissed. Anyone heard what this was about?

He was saying i know the damn play.

It was his assignment but he was double teamed and appeared to me the OT had him by the back of his jersey. It was apparent he was trying to fill the inside gap.

Wolf
11-23-2012, 09:18 PM
Let me put my lipreading skills to good use here... After reviewing the video several times, I feel very confident this is what was said... word for word. I was only able to catch Kollar saying two words but his back was to the screen most of the time. Those two words were fuc*ing and gap. Luckily, it appears that Watt is pretty easy for me to lipread...

JJ Watt: I was playing the double! I played it bad!

JJ Watt interrupting Kollar: I knew the play!

Kollar speaking again but JJ Watt interrupts again: I KNOW THE PLAY!
I have to spread rep

TheIronDuke
11-23-2012, 09:25 PM
Thanks, didn't feel like searching through the game thread. He was on fire after that though.

NitroGSXR
11-23-2012, 09:40 PM
Yeah. When he said I played it bad... he said it with a quiver in his voice. He was really upset. He really blew the play.

HJam72
11-23-2012, 09:44 PM
TD plays get overblown a lot. They had to get all the way down there first, so there was a lot of less than perfect play by the whole D before that happened. I always find it kind of absurd the way a replay of a really short TD run will be shown, but they will sometimes omit showing the highlight of a 40 yd. pass completion that set it up...

2slik4u
11-23-2012, 10:41 PM
So here lies the main issue with me.

Curious as to if was Watt walking that line of unsaid "disrepect" for Coach

OR

Watt walked the line of a pissed off player that Coach still maintained full command of the situation.


Strictly curious as to have a closer look behind the curtain more so than Im worried about any outside issues.

Let me re-iterate my point because some posters will pick this comment apart like .... like.... Im drunk but you know what Im talking about....

Just topic of a conversation...

Wolf
11-23-2012, 10:46 PM
It was a moment of frustration. And after that "blowup" ,the lions did nothing


Well they did miss a field goal

GlassHalfFull
11-23-2012, 10:52 PM
All I know is JJ's face got bright red. He was pissed. And then the defense got fired up.

Corrosion
11-23-2012, 10:53 PM
So here lies the main issue with me.

Curious as to if was Watt walking that line of unsaid "disrepect" for Coach

OR

Watt walked the line of a pissed off player that Coach still maintained full command of the situation.


Strictly curious as to have a closer look behind the curtain more so than Im worried about any outside issues.

Let me re-iterate my point because some posters will pick this comment apart like .... like.... Im drunk but you know what Im talking about....

Just topic of a conversation...


Nothing to see here .... Watt was simply emotionally charged and irritated with himself because of the situation. Kollar had control of the situation.

Watt is the last guy who would be walking that line of disrespecting the coaching staff ....



You know , I cant really get mad at other people , they have an excuse .... but I can get absolutely furious with myself. I dont have excuses for letting myself down.

2slik4u
11-23-2012, 11:02 PM
Nothing to see here .... Watt was simply emotionally charged and irritated with himself because of the situation. Kollar had control of the situation.
Watt is the last guy who would be walking that line of disrespecting the coaching staff ....


You know , I cant really get mad at other people , they have an excuse .... but I can get absolutely furious with myself. I dont have excuses for letting myself down.

Exactly, thats called self-respect.

I know this deep down but its interesting see some emotion from the front of the Houston Texans. They are starting to get the rep of the vail of secrecy as the New England Patriots (which I like...alot).

MEGA SWATT
11-23-2012, 11:39 PM
I saw that and was wondering what that was all about. Thanks for the thread op.

TheRealJoker
11-24-2012, 01:01 PM
Watt delivered 2 more sacks in crunch time after that. Good coaching by Kollar.

JamesBill
11-24-2012, 07:07 PM
Yeah. When he said I played it bad... he said it with a quiver in his voice. He was really upset. He really blew the play.

This board has the best members. Doctor explaining all the injuries and a deaf person reading lips for us with this level of detail. Wow.

NitroGSXR
11-24-2012, 07:55 PM
This board has the best members. Doctor explaining all the injuries and a deaf person reading lips for us with this level of detail. Wow.

I appreciate the kind words. Do keep in mind... I am still a Deaf person so... misunderstandings WILL and DO happen. I am certainly VERY good at it but lipreading isn't an exact science. Not in this case though. I am 100% certain it's what he said. You can decipher it too. Just watch the clip and you can see him choke up when he said the word bad.

dream_team
11-24-2012, 08:03 PM
This also shows how much we know as casual fans. We probably would have faulted one of the LBs or safeties, and Watt was doubled, so no way it was his fault. Sounds like he played the wrong gap, and it cost a TD.

Corrosion
11-24-2012, 09:44 PM
So?

Coaches are people just like Watt.

No different if you "disrespect" a teacher or your boss or a cop or anyone ... they are just people.

People don't get respect by being given some title ... they have to earn it, and continue to earn it.

If Watt was right he had every right to tell a "coach" to go unlawful carnal knowledge himself.

Its no longer unlawful .... they removed sodomy laws from the books :heh:

thunderkyss
11-24-2012, 10:55 PM
So?

Coaches are people just like Watt.

No different if you "disrespect" a teacher or your boss or a cop or anyone ... they are just people.

People don't get respect by being given some title ... they have to earn it, and continue to earn it.

If Watt was right he had every right to tell a "coach" to go for unlawful carnal knowledge himself.

That's what's wrong with the world today. People with this attitude.

Koller's job is to make Watt the best he can be. Whether Kollar was right or wrong, Watt needs to approach his coach with the understanding that Kollar pointing out what happened is only to help Watt be better.

If Kollar is grabing Watt, yelling at Watt, I'm with you. But it looks like Kollar is just doing his job & Watt was frustrated & taking it out on Kollar.

At his presser, Kubiak played it off, said they are always yelling at each other.

I bet the conversation was different in private.

Corrosion
11-24-2012, 11:03 PM
.

I bet the conversation was different in private.

I would agree with that , it was just the heat of the moment ... Watt was emotional not just downright disrespectful.

Allstar
11-24-2012, 11:24 PM
Admitting that you blew the play to your coach, even if you're screaming, doesn't sound too disrespectful to me.

Allstar
11-24-2012, 11:26 PM
This board has the best members. Doctor explaining all the injuries and a deaf person reading lips for us with this level of detail. Wow.

Don't forget all the professional perverts we have on hand to break down any cheerleader dance you need ;)

GP
11-25-2012, 05:02 PM
Honestly, I knew from watching it the first time that he was mad at himself.

"I know the play!" wasn't meant to be rude to Kollar, it was JJ admitting failure. "I played it wrong!" was further admission of guilt by JJ.

The reason he was acting angry was because he didn't want/need Kollar reminding him of it. Whereas other players would need that coaching, or the player might not know he'd done wrong, JJ was immediately understanding that he failed on the assignment.

To me, it looked fine. Guys get pissed off. Never once saw JJ get up and move toward Kollar. He stayed seated instead. I never saw him cuss at him during that. He didn't make an ass of himself. It was textbook in terms of being upset at oneself and expressing anger over it.

Plus, everything I read says Kollar is a much respected coach. I thought it was awesome to see them get that fired up yet remain professional.

SCOTTexans
11-25-2012, 08:49 PM
He made Watt so mad that the next play he got another sack.... In my book that's what i call great coaching!

amazing80
11-25-2012, 09:50 PM
He made Watt so mad that the next play he got another sack.... In my book that's what i call great coaching!

Yup, guys need to be pushed no matter how great they are.....sometimes the best thing you can do to a great player is point out their flaw and fire them up to get it fixed....watt a koller beast :kitten:

ObsiWan
11-26-2012, 01:20 AM
If Kollar is grabing Watt, yelling at Watt, I'm with you. But it looks like Kollar is just doing his job & Watt was frustrated & taking it out on Kollar.

At his presser, Kubiak played it off, said they are always yelling at each other.

Yep business as usual...

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dream_team
11-26-2012, 01:49 AM
He made Watt so mad that the next play he got another sack.... In my book that's what i call great coaching!

IMO, that's more reflective of the player, than the coach.

Hagar
11-26-2012, 09:32 AM
Yep business as usual...

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This is about the size of it. This is just "heat of battle" stuff that happens on the sidelines during a game. Nothing more.

gtexan02
11-26-2012, 09:39 AM
Watt came across as timid and friendly in the mic'd up session he was a part of. I was amazed such a friendly guy could have th epassion to succeed like he does. This showed his passionate side. I like this side of him. He's passionate and fiery. His play was turned up to another level after he had a mistake. He's going to be one of the greatest ever

NitroGSXR
11-26-2012, 09:44 AM
Formal request to dutch for a gif of the incident.