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EllisUnit
11-17-2012, 12:09 AM
http://forum.jaguars.com/index.php?showtopic=705562

I mean even in our bad bad bad days i always had false hope, lying to myself, convincing myself we were better than we were. Hmmm i am glad we are finally past those days. some of my favs though...


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I dont see us having 3 good enough drives to make it into field goal range.....we're usually guaranteed 1 so i'll say we'll go down 30-3....Line gives up about 5 sacks and depending on how long it takes for them to separate from us, Gabbert probably wont make it through the game

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Jags and Texans score predictions? Thats assuming we do something better than 3 and out. Let me give you a preview:


Jags:

3 and out

3 and out

3 and out

3 and out

3 and out

etc...etc...

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Score predictions? Must we wallow in our gloriously untalented misery?

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42-1 Texans

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Somewhere in a dark horribly scary place JJ Watt is suiting up. I can imagine the movie style mashup where they show him putting on one piece of armor at a time ala Batman movies. What place is that you say? Gabbert's nightmares.

The game will start and so will the slaughter. Expect no less than 4 sacks (2 by Watt) and 2 Ints with alot of Qb hits.


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In case you missed it that dotted line is our statline. Dont see much huh?

45-6 Texans.

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WOW these guys are pretty funny, i give them props though.

NastyNate
11-17-2012, 12:12 AM
Like what? Using contractions incorrectly? :kitten:

EllisUnit
11-17-2012, 12:19 AM
Like what? Using contractions incorrectly? :kitten:

excuse me sir, sir please re-look.

thank you come again

powda
11-17-2012, 12:20 AM
We were like this. At least I was though I had a lot of false hope in people like carr and casserly. It's hard to say still but we were destitute...we at least had the new franchise excuse and were beaming with pride to have an nfl team again even if the product on the field sucked.

Showtime100
11-17-2012, 12:30 AM
Somewhere in a dark horribly scary place JJ Watt is suiting up.


Poetry. Sig-worthy if I ever saw. :barman:

Allstar
11-17-2012, 01:00 AM
If our team was on a 7 game skid, and we were going up against the consensus top team in the league (which thoroughly demolished us earlier in the season), I'd be pretty down about it too.

Malloy
11-17-2012, 01:54 AM
In the good olde run-run-pass-punt days of Capers, apathy and disbelief was rampant here too. Joking about it was to only way to retain a slight amount of sanity :)

Thorn
11-17-2012, 01:58 AM
Our nickname there is the tinhorns. My favorite though is from the Titans, moo cows. LOL

Marcus
11-17-2012, 03:12 AM
To answer your question . . .

Yes, we were like that. When the football team sucks, so do the fans. It's a team effort.

eriadoc
11-17-2012, 03:52 AM
I had zero hope during the 2005 season. I went to the games for two reasons: 1.) I paid for it, and 2.) Mathis might return a kickoff, which the team received a lot of.

thunderkyss
11-17-2012, 05:04 AM
I didn't frequent the boards very much before Kubiak. But when I did, I didn't frequent any of the prediction threads or the game day threads. All I did was argue about how good the QB wasn't.

Since Kubiak, I don't think we were that bad & I truly believed we could win any game. We lost a lot but I don't think it was ever hopeless. Even with the Ole' defense, it depended on which offense showed up.

Lucky
11-17-2012, 06:21 AM
If our team was on a 7 game skid, and we were going up against the consensus top team in the league (which thoroughly demolished us earlier in the season), I'd be pretty down about it too.
It was pretty bad here in 2010 after the Texans lost 8 of 10 after the bye. The 2 wins were against the Titans with Rusty Smith @ QB and the Jags in week 17 when they were sitting many of their starters.

And why shouldn't it have been bad here? The franchise kept doing the same things, over and over, and expecting different results. One hire started a change that completely turned the franchise around. I would tell the Jags fan to hold on to hope, and that maybe they could get that one player, coach, or GM that can revitalize their franchise.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-17-2012, 07:02 AM
It was pretty bad here in 2010 after the Texans lost 8 of 10 after the bye. The 2 wins were against the Titans with Rusty Smith @ QB and the Jags in week 17 when they were sitting many of their starters.

And why shouldn't it have been bad here? The franchise kept doing the same things, over and over, and expecting different results. One hire started a change that completely turned the franchise around. I would tell the Jags fan to hold on to hope, and that maybe they could get that one player, coach, or GM that can revitalize their franchise.

Yep, if you give up hoping, there's nothing left.

Exascor
11-17-2012, 07:52 AM
I remember quite a bit of frustration back in 2005. Most of us were pretty sure the junk on the field had little chance of winning against good teams. Here's one example that ended in a 38-20 loss at home:

Flashback Clicky (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13772)

SheTexan
11-17-2012, 08:24 AM
Yep, if you give up hoping, there's nothing left.

This^^^^!

My lowest point in Texan history was the year VY ran in for a TD and 80% of our fans went balistic! That day will be FOREVER etched in my brain as one of the worst days of all. I was stunned, so sad I bawled my eyes out, heartbroken for our team who had to witness our fans screaming for the other team, or for VY, all the same to me. I went home wondering if I ever wanted to go back, and if I wanted to be a part of a fanbase like that. I truly thought about giving it up for good. My mantra has always been, went it ceases to be fun, I am done. BUT, it wasn't the TEAM that let me down that day, it was the fans. Football is a GAME, ya win some, ya lose some, but, ya never give up HOPE!

EllisUnit
11-17-2012, 08:53 AM
Well maybe i am to big of a homer, i have never went in to any game expecting us to lose. i have always expected a win, sure aliens might of had to come down and abduct the other teams entire roster. BUt i had faith it would happen ;)

Thorn
11-17-2012, 09:34 AM
Well maybe i am to big of a homer, i have never went in to any game expecting us to lose. i have always expected a win, sure aliens might of had to come down and abduct the other teams entire roster. BUt i had faith it would happen ;)

If you sit through every single game all year you can see the "character" of the team. The Texans character for many years was that of a loser. Last year they began to change, this year they ARE changed. In years pasts, I always seemed to wait and hope they wouldn't blow it as they usually did, and was happy when they didn't. It's just the opposite now for me. I don't hope they'll win, I expect them to. It's nice to feel that way for a change.

ObsiWan
11-17-2012, 09:51 AM
This^^^^!

My lowest point in Texan history was the year VY ran in for a TD and 80% of our fans went balistic! That day will be FOREVER etched in my brain as one of the worst days of all. I was stunned, so sad I bawled my eyes out, heartbroken for our team who had to witness our fans screaming for the other team, or for VY, all the same to me. I went home wondering if I ever wanted to go back, and if I wanted to be a part of a fanbase like that. I truly thought about giving it up for good. My mantra has always been, went it ceases to be fun, I am done. BUT, it wasn't the TEAM that let me down that day, it was the fans. Football is a GAME, ya win some, ya lose some, but, ya never give up HOPE!

I'm with you on this one. I was never so pissed in my life.
This pissed me off even more than when Renfro was gipped out of the TD against the Steelers or when the Bills came back to beat us in that playoff game. Those were bad breaks. This was the home fanbase turning on the home team. Still pisses me off just to think about it.
I just wanted to :strangle: all of 'em.

Maddict5
11-17-2012, 09:56 AM
I would tell the Jags fan to hold on to hope, and that maybe they could get that one player, coach, or GM that can revitalize their franchise.

it wasnt just one move though was it?

wade's hire meant the culmination of other good moves over the previous years finally came together- we had alot of offensive & defensive talent after years of overall good drafting & free agency and we had a good offensive coaching staff and a team that played hard.

finally bringing in an excellent defensive coach like wade and turning our major weakness (secondary) into a strength in the same offseason is what finally brought us in the elite realm many had predicted for the year or 2 before that

the jags have nothing like that & are way aways in terms of having the pieces necessary to contend

ObsiWan
11-17-2012, 09:57 AM
If you sit through every single game all year you can see the "character" of the team. The Texans character for many years was that of a loser. Last year they began to change, this year they ARE changed. In years pasts, I always seemed to wait and hope they wouldn't blow it as they usually did, and was happy when they didn't. It's just the opposite now for me. I don't hope they'll win, I expect them to. It's nice to feel that way for a change.

I submit the loser attitude began to change before last year. When they were still playing hard, in Dec., just to make it to 8-8... that's not a loser attitude. Losers would have mailed it in and just showed up to collect their game checks. They stopped doing that before 2010.

Last year they started to realize they could play with ANY team. This year they know, if they play their kind of football, they can whip any team. But Kubiak has them grounded enough that they know if they don't play their kind of football, they can lose any given Sunday. Keeps 'em hungry.
:koolaid:

ObsiWan
11-17-2012, 10:11 AM
it wasnt just one move though was it?

wade's hire meant the culmination of other good moves over the previous years finally came together- we had alot of offensive & defensive talent after years of overall good drafting & free agency and we had a good offensive coaching staff and a team that played hard.

finally bringing in an excellent defensive coach like wade and turning our major weakness (secondary) into a strength in the same offseason is what finally brought us in the elite realm many had predicted for the year or 2 before that

the jags have nothing like that & are way aways in terms of having the pieces necessary to contend

Any "turnaround" is NEVER just one move. Those who think that haven't done their homework.

Last year folks pointed to the Niners as the miracle turn-around team. But the Niners you see today have been building since 2005 when they drafted Alex Smith and Frank Gore.

There were years when the guys we cut ended up totally out of football. Now other teams are raiding our practice squad and snapping up folks we cut within days. Think about it; I don't believe Jacoby Jones or Trindon Holliday were out of a job for any more than a month. It may have been less than a week in Holliday's case. Some of us know-it-alls on here thought both were completely useless. Not to the teams who picked them up.

You want signs of respect. There it is right there. When other teams - and not just bottom feeders but contenders - can't wait to see who you cut so they can snag a possible starter, that, my friends, is the ultimate in respect IMHO.

houstonspartan
11-17-2012, 10:12 AM
If you sit through every single game all year you can see the "character" of the team. The Texans character for many years was that of a loser. Last year they began to change, this year they ARE changed. In years pasts, I always seemed to wait and hope they wouldn't blow it as they usually did, and was happy when they didn't. It's just the opposite now for me. I don't hope they'll win, I expect them to. It's nice to feel that way for a change.

A buddy of mine is a bit overly dramatic, and says before every single game: "I'm nervous, man. I'm very nervous." I always ask him why, and he has a different reason for every single game. I kid you not. He asked me before one game why I wasn't nervous, and I said: "Look, I'm done with expecting losses. I expect wins. Are we going to win every single game? Nope. But, I expect us to. We're a good team, and it's time we started acting like it."

I wasn't freaking out about the weather in Chicago like every other Texans fan. I just said: "Meh. They've played in bad weather before. We got this."

I go into every game expecting a win.

As for Jags fans: they can bite one. I don't feel sorry for them. They weren't the nicest people when we were at the bottom and they were going to the playoffs regularly.

houstonspartan
11-17-2012, 10:16 AM
Any "turnaround" is NEVER just one move. Those who think that haven't done their homework.

Last year folks pointed to the Niners as the miracle turn-around team. But the Niners you see today have been building since 2005 when they drafted Alex Smith and Frank Gore.

There were years when the guys we cut ended up totally out of football. Now other teams are raiding our practice squad and snapping up folks we cut within days.

You want signs of respect. There it is right there. When other teams can't wait to see who you cut so they can snag a possible starter, that, my friends, is the ultimate in respect IMHO.

Yep. Our cast-offs are now considered top notch. That is definitely a sign of progress and respect.

And you just know teams are keeping a careful eye on TJ Yates and Case Keenum. They're probably salivating over Yates, especially.

Playoffs
11-17-2012, 10:23 AM
HWNWNBMH years, yep.

Our nickname there is the tinhorns. My favorite though is from the Titans, moo cows. LOLWhich reflects the average maximum level of education of Tack fans: 5th grade. http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1772.gif

houstonspartan
11-17-2012, 10:27 AM
HWNWNBMH years, yep.

Which reflects the average maximum level of education of Tack fans: 5th grade. http://www.buddy-icons.info/img/smile/1772.gif

LOL! I was wondering the same thing. Cows? Guess that's supposed to be a riff on bulls? FAIL.

Hagar
11-17-2012, 10:44 AM
Here's how bad it got for me:

In 2006, my buddies and I had just taken the tailgating truck out of storage to get it ready for the first preseason game. We struck up a conversation about how the Texans would do this year. Coming off the 2-14 season, we'd had a very nice draft and I was very hopeful for the team but I knew our latest draft class that included Mario, Demeco, Spencer and Winston would take some time to get up to speed. My comment to the conversations was

"I don't think we'll be any good this year but I like our direction, especially the two new tackles. Winston is a beast."

I had written off a complete year before it had even started. Realistic, but sad.

Thorn
11-17-2012, 10:54 AM
LOL! I was wondering the same thing. Cows? Guess that's supposed to be a riff on bulls? FAIL.

Well, you ARE supposed to be insulting the rival teams, no? :lol:

It's why we have the Dolts, tits and kittens in our division.

ObsiWan
11-17-2012, 12:06 PM
Well, you ARE supposed to be insulting the rival teams, no? :lol:

It's why we have the Dolts, tits and kittens in our division.

and we say those names with all the respect they deserve
:D

thunderkyss
11-17-2012, 12:35 PM
I submit the loser attitude began to change before last year. When they were still playing hard, in Dec., just to make it to 8-8... that's not a loser attitude. Losers would have mailed it in and just showed up to collect their game checks. They stopped doing that before 2010.

Last year they started to realize they could play with ANY team. This year they know, if they play their kind of football, they can whip any team. But Kubiak has them grounded enough that they know if they don't play their kind of football, they can lose any given Sunday. Keeps 'em hungry.
:koolaid:

Don't forget we did go 9-7 in 2009. If anyone has coached a new team, or a young team moving up to the next age level knows, instilling a winning culture is a difficult thing to do.

We went 6-10, 8-8, 8-8, 9-7 (& should've gone to the play-offs), 6-10, 10-6, most likely 10+ for 2012.

A lot of people want to look at that as failure but from where we were, no that's not failure that's building a winning foundation. We were basically an 8-8 team, sometimes we'd win 2 more games, sometimes 2 less.

Now, I feel like we are a 10-6 team, meaning we'll win between 8 & 12 games. Eventually we'll be a 12 win team, regardless of schedule (my contention is that because of our weak schedule, we'll probably win 12+ games this season).

& I know it's hard to see, but I think that is what Bob saw when he said we were on the right track 2 years ago.

Lurvinator11
11-17-2012, 01:28 PM
Well, you ARE supposed to be insulting the rival teams, no? :lol:

It's why we have the Dolts, tits and kittens in our division.

The Dolts are the only name I could come up with.

Tits/Tacks/Sisterkisses or just bad. That is the Titans

And of course, Kittens/Baguars/HWMNBN 2.0's/ and my personal contribution, the Faguars!!!!!

Always have fun with the other teams.

Wolf
11-17-2012, 01:38 PM
I always had hope. (even if just slim). If the Texans can beat Pittsburgh, in Pittsburgh (with the Texans only gaining 47 Total yards) then anything is possible

:d:

EllisUnit
11-17-2012, 02:24 PM
[QUOTE=Fiddler;2059240](my contention is that because of our weak schedule, we'll probably win 12+ games this season).QUOTE]

Hmmmm i dont think our schedule has been weak, yeah it sure did before the start of the season. We went to denver and won, we stomped the ravens, we went to chicago and won, we beat the dolphins handily and they havent been as bad as advertised, sure the jets suck but we still went to their house and beat them by multiple scores.

I def dont give credit to this seasons success to an easy schedule.

thunderkyss
11-17-2012, 03:00 PM
(my contention is that because of our weak schedule, we'll probably win 12+ games this season).

Hmmmm i dont think our schedule has been weak, yeah it sure did before the start of the season. We went to denver and won, we stomped the ravens, we went to chicago and won, we beat the dolphins handily and they havent been as bad as advertised, sure the jets suck but we still went to their house and beat them by multiple scores.

I def dont give credit to this seasons success to an easy schedule.

It was just my opinion, I understand if you don't agree. I'm not owing our success to an easy schedule. I believe we are a 10 win team give or take 2 games. I realistically expect this team to win between 8 & 12 games. Because of the strength of the AFC South, I wouldn't be surprised if we win more than 12.

Hervoyel
11-17-2012, 09:40 PM
Of course we've been like this. The fans follow the team and when the team goes to 1-8 the fans follow them to the bottom of that dark place.

Norg
11-17-2012, 11:14 PM
i dont know i wasent like that everytime we lost i would just come home and point out the problems of the game i wasent mad about it just dissapointed

but like someone said above me alot of people would joke about a loss just to laugh and cheer us up to cope with the Anger LOL

Thorn
11-18-2012, 12:24 AM
........ cope with the Anger LOL

We'll probably be doing a lot of that tomorrow. :lol:

michaelm
11-18-2012, 02:30 AM
I don't think we were ever quite that pathetic. We never had to cover half our seats with tarps, after all...


my only other thought is, suck it glitter kitties! You deserve every loss...

SAMURAITEXAN
11-18-2012, 03:19 AM
I don't really care of Jags or any other team except for Texans, Rockets and Astros. However, I understand the pain you go through as a general fan of sports when your favorite team is not doing well. So, hanging in there Jags' fans, your time may come in the future. Don't give up hope.

Txn_in_Oki
11-18-2012, 03:42 AM
I'm a pretty objective guy. I'm not a Kool-Aid drinker. Hell, as a parent, my kids know they will get the straight, no kidding, honest brutal truth from me. Yes, you suck. It's time to move on to something else.

But. With this team. I have always had hope, even in the worst of times. In 2006 the sports bar I frequented felt so bad for me that at the end of the season they bought me a cake. It was so bad that at one point I hung with Bengal fans because we both were wallowing in our own teams mediocrity.

And now I've lost track of what point I was trying to make... Sunday night in Okinawa, too much beer.