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Thorn
11-15-2012, 01:26 PM
For the first time all season, the Texans had a full complement of players on the practice field on Wednesday.

All 53 players on the active roster participated in practice, as did inside linebacker Darryl Sharpton, whos close to returning from the Physically Unable to Perform list.

Tight end Owen Daniels (ribs), nose tackle Shaun Cody (back/ribs) and running back Ben Tate (hamstring) were limited. All three have a chance to play Sunday against the Jacksonville Jaguars after sitting out in Week 10.

We were kind of light in what we did, but they were all back in practice today, so should be all back out there tomorrow, Texans coach Gary Kubiak said.

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/No-Texans-sit-out-of-practice-Wednesday/158d4549-9b27-4ddf-8830-0e3f79fb9bde

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2012, 01:37 PM
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/No-Texans-sit-out-of-practice-Wednesday/158d4549-9b27-4ddf-8830-0e3f79fb9bde


Love to know how OD all of a sudden shows up with "ribs".........with no previous contact practices. :kitten:

Vinnie
11-15-2012, 01:38 PM
It seems funny to me we have full participation for this one when we shouldn't need half of them. :kitten:

Thorn
11-15-2012, 01:38 PM
I'd just as soon Tate didn't play against the Jags anyway. Even if he is ready, we should save him for the Turkey Day game in Detroit.

TheIronDuke
11-15-2012, 01:42 PM
I'd just as soon Tate didn't play against the Jags anyway. Even if he is ready, we should save him for the Turkey Day game in Detroit.

I don't know, I'm thinking we need to get him as much playing time as possible to hopefully up his trade value before he hurts himself again. Unless we let Grimes and Forsett get all the carries, which should be enough to beat Jacksonville.

IDEXAN
11-15-2012, 01:45 PM
Love to know how OD all of a sudden shows up with "ribs".........with no previous contact practices. :kitten:
Right, I Thought OD was having problems with a "hip pointer", and I don't recall anything about rib issues either ?

Playoffs
11-15-2012, 01:56 PM
Right, I Thought OD was having problems with a "hip pointer", and I don't recall anything about rib issues either ?
Ribs are the new hip pointer. :kitten:

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2012, 02:12 PM
All 53 players on the active roster participated in practice, as did inside linebacker Darryl Sharpton, whos close to returning from the Physically Unable to Perform list.

He better be "close" to being activated...........if not by November 28........IR.
If he is not fully activated and still not ready to contribute, he will then count against roster and someone will need to be kicked out the door.

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2012, 02:18 PM
Gets stranger............OD listed as "back" on official HT.com injury report.:kubepalm:

Dobbins listed as "shoulder"...........dang Cutler.:wadepalm:

CloakNNNdagger
11-15-2012, 02:26 PM
I'd just as soon Tate didn't play against the Jags anyway. Even if he is ready, we should save him for the Turkey Day game in Detroit.

I don't know, I'm thinking we need to get him as much playing time as possible to hopefully up his trade value before he hurts himself again. Unless we let Grimes and Forsett get all the carries, which should be enough to beat Jacksonville.

Let Tate get the longest rest he can not only for the hamstring, but for the turf toe that probably led to the hamstring tear. Forsett and Foster should easily take care of the Jags.

The Pencil Neck
11-15-2012, 02:38 PM
Gets stranger............OD listed as "back" on official HT.com injury report.:kubepalm:

Dobbins listed as "shoulder"...........dang Cutler.:wadepalm:

They asked OD about it yesterday, and he said it was his back. Not his hip. He didn't say anything about ribs.

Dobbins hurt his shoulder on that first defensive play where he recovered the fumble. He went to the locker room and then game back and played through the pain. That damned Cutler just ran into his hurt shoulder trying to get Dobbins out of the game.

Playoffs
11-15-2012, 02:58 PM
Dobbins listed as "shoulder"...........dang Cutler.:wadepalm:

I think Dobbins injured his wallet. http://cdn-live2.blackenterprise.net/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/2011/08/Money-Cash-Black-Enterprise-Business-Large.jpg

Rey
11-15-2012, 03:13 PM
Tate didn't practice today...

I know the article is about yesterday...

76Texan
11-15-2012, 03:27 PM
You guys are too funny!

Ryan
11-15-2012, 03:50 PM
We should come up with a mysterious injury for Foster so he can sit out a week. We shouldn't need him at all this week and he could have some extra rest for the Detroit game.

GP
11-15-2012, 03:59 PM
Remember when the Jags game would be coming up...we'd be all like, "Well, we have to keep their DL and LBs out of the backfield..."

And we'd be all like, "Man, it's going to be hard to stop MJD. He always gets the tough yards....."

Then we're all like, "The 4th quarter. That's when Garrard runs on us and we chase him all over the field, dude takes it into the end zone on the last drive. We gotta find a way to stop him."

Yeah, now we're like, "Let's sit our best running back. Hell, let's let all the starters sit. Save them for Detroit."

Jags fans' world turned upside down when they face us now. :evil:

michaelm
11-15-2012, 04:12 PM
Yeah, now we're like, "Let's sit our best running back. Hell, let's let all the starters sit. Save them for Detroit."

Jags fans' world turned upside down when they face us now. :evil:

Unless it blows up in the Texans' faces...

ObsiWan
11-15-2012, 05:53 PM
Unless it blows up in the Texans' faces...

It's not the Texans with these random "let's sit so-and-so for the Jags game" thoughts. It's we know-it-all fans.

and if they - in some wild, alternate reality, universe - actually sat all the starters we'd all go... :panic:
:D

kiwitexansfan
11-15-2012, 06:02 PM
I'd just as soon Tate didn't play against the Jags anyway. Even if he is ready, we should save him for the Turkey Day game in Detroit.

We need to rest Foster as much as we can for the playoffs.

We need as many healthy backs as we can get.

silvrhand
11-15-2012, 06:23 PM
Let Tate get the longest rest he can not only for the hamstring, but for the turf toe that probably led to the hamstring tear. Forsett and Foster should easily take care of the Jags.

Hamstring injury was the result of the collision and Ed Reed falling ackwardly on the back of his legs, they were both down for a while on that.

EllisUnit
11-17-2012, 01:01 AM
How do you beat the jaguars on any given sunday...

anyone

ok ok

you just have to show up

CloakNNNdagger
11-17-2012, 10:00 AM
Hamstring injury was the result of the collision and Ed Reed falling ackwardly on the back of his legs, they were both down for a while on that.

If this was the mechanism of the hamstring injury, it is referred to a "hamstring contusion." Kubiak initially referred to the injury as a "slight" hamstring pull. A direct blunt hit to the hamstring essentially creates a crush injury of the muscles against the underlying bone (femur). It can create even a "slight" tear of the muscle which can in turn tear a blood vessel or blood vessels within the muscle group........essentially a bruise or hematoma within the muscle. A small tear can create a small amount of bleed or a very large amount of bleed. The latter scenarios, if not the immediate case, is especially likely if the therapy is too aggressive or implemented too soon. There is additional tearing and potentially much greater exacerbation of the previously ceased bleeding. This has great effect on the prognosis of ability to return to play. The greater the bleed, the more spasm of the involved muscle......and the more dysfunctionality........a vicious circle. If the bleeding creates a distinct pocket of blood, the area can be surgically drained, and the recovery hurried along. However, commonly the bleed is into the muscle substance itself. And in this case, the re-absorption of the blood can be a very long process. A blunt trauma leading to "slight" tear and minor bleed, properly treated, will usually lead to return to play within 3 weeks. The problem with further injury resulting in significant rebleed is that the recovery can be easily prolonged to 4-8 weeks or longer. The longer the blood remains unabsorbed, the more chance of a more uncommon phenomenon of calcium deposits being laid down in the muscle, a condition called myositis ossificans. The latter condition can essentially turn the return to effective play from many weeks to many months. We haven't officially been giving any real information about Tate's injury and subsequent course, but it is somewhat strange that a hamstring injury that was initially characterized as "slight" has turned into a mini-nightmare.

BTW, as an FYI, a turf toe will create compensatory gait "adjustments" that can place abnormal stress on the hamstring muscles. While trying to recover from a hamstring, stiff turf toe orthotics don't help things either. Think of placing a plank of plywood inside your shoe and not being able to normally run and push off by bending your toes back. You will appreciate the transfer of stresses to the hamstring.

silvrhand
11-17-2012, 10:13 AM
If this was the mechanism of the hamstring injury, it is referred to a "hamstring contusion." Kubiak initially referred to the injury as a "slight" hamstring pull. A direct blunt hit to the hamstring essentially creates a crush injury of the muscles against the underlying bone (femure). It can create even a "slight" tear of the muscle which can in turn tear a blood vessel or blood vessels within the muscle group........essentially a bruise or hematoma within the muscle. A small tear can create a small amount of bleed or a very large amount of bleed. The latter scenarios, if not the immediate case, is especially likely if the therapy is too aggressive or implemented too soon. There is additional tearing and potentially much greater exacerbation of the previously ceased bleeding. This has great effect on the prognosis of ability to return to play. The greater the bleed, the more spasm of the involved muscle......and the more dysfunctionality........a vicious circle. If the bleeding creates a distinct pocket of blood, the area can be surgically drained, and the recovery hurried along. However, commonly the bleed is into the muscle substance itself. And in this case, the re-absorption of the blood can be a very long process. A blunt trauma leading to "slight" tear and minor bleed, properly treated, will usually lead to return to play within 3 weeks. The problem with further injury resulting in significant rebleed is that the recovery can be easily prolonged to 4-8 weeks or longer. The longer the blood remains unabsorbed, the more chance of a more uncommon phenomenon of calcium deposits being laid down in the muscle, a condition called myositis ossificans. The latter condition can essentially turn the return to effective play from many weeks to many months. We haven't officially been giving any real information about Tate's injury and subsequent course, but it is somewhat strange that a hamstring injury that was initially characterized as "slight" has turned into a mini-nightmare.

BTW, as an FYI, a turf toe will create compensatory gait "adjustments" that can place abnormal stress on the hamstring muscles. While trying to recover from a hamstring, stiff turf toe orthotics don't help things either. Think of placing a plank of plywood inside your shoe and not being able to normally run and push off by bending your toes back. You will appreciate the transfer of stresses to the hamstring.

Familiar with turf toe, have had foot injury in college when playing, was not fun. In this case I don't think that's the injury though it definitely seems not a pull but as you mentioned a contact injury such as a contusion or some odd extension of it, aka a tear.

Now that I think it was that serious but I was worried when they showed the replay that he had hurt something odd, reminded me a bit like the Bo Jackson injury.

CloakNNNdagger
11-17-2012, 10:20 AM
Familiar with turf toe, have had foot injury in college when playing, was not fun. In this case I don't think that's the injury though it definitely seems not a pull but as you mentioned a contact injury such as a contusion or some odd extension of it, aka a tear.

Now that I think it was that serious but I was worried when they showed the replay that he had hurt something odd, reminded me a bit like the Bo Jackson injury.

I understand what you are trying to say. From what you presented, I agree that it is likely the initial injury was the Ed Reed blunt trauma to his hammy and not the turf toe.