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badboy
11-08-2012, 09:21 AM
It is probably just me but Texans just don't seem to be getting the fan explosion I expected and hoped for. Perhaps if I am correct, it is just caution by many fans to avoid that let down of "fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...".

Even on this MB where I've come to expect rabid and vociferous comments defending a writer's opinion, the tone just seems to be flat recently. Maybe it is just the bye week, midseason spot we find ourselves in. 7-1 going to Chicago I was expecting an explosion of chest thumping. I have not seen the avalanche of new fans (so called bandwagoners) to this message board. I have even decreased my listening to radio talk shows as it is the same blah blah but seemingly little fan excitement. This is despite getting the "all important" national coverage and some admisssion that Houston does have an NFL football team. Heck we are even picked by some experts to go to that Heaven on earth called Super Bowl.

This came to an head after the game against Buffalo as the team played (what is the right word?) not as well as I expected. Well the fans did not react as I expected either; more like "well glad that one is behind us, but not a looking forward to Bears either". I am basically a take it one game at a time guy but where is the maniacal fan base that I lived through during Luv Ya Blue era?

Stemp
11-08-2012, 09:30 AM
I think the term is cautiously optimistic.

I'll feel a lot better about this season if we win in Chicago. But we need to beat Chicago and/or NE for me to really good about this team heading into the playoffs.

Texas T
11-08-2012, 09:35 AM
I agree with Stemp. Win or a really good showing this week and I'll be much more comfortable with our chances.

I think we are all kind of looking at who we've beaten and seen that it is not a great group of teams. We've also come out flat in a couple of games-one we lost.

HJam72
11-08-2012, 09:39 AM
I think the confidence in the idea that we are going to the playoffs has made the regular season start to feel a tad boring. Not saying it will be boring the whole rest of the season, but it just feels kind of "blah" in a relaxed and good way right now. We just beat somebody pretty handily without bringing our A game. I think we'll be up for the Bears, but it isn't game-day yet...

Presidential race might have something to do with it too. Most Texans ain't too happy right now.

GuerillaBlack
11-08-2012, 09:42 AM
It is probably just me but Texans just don't seem to be getting the fan explosion I expected and hoped for. Perhaps if I am correct, it is just caution by many fans to avoid that let down of "fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...".

Even on this MB where I've come to expect rabid and vociferous comments defending a writer's opinion, the tone just seems to be flat recently. Maybe it is just the bye week, midseason spot we find ourselves in. 7-1 going to Chicago I was expecting an explosion of chest thumping. I have not seen the avalanche of new fans (so called bandwagoners) to this message board. I have even decreased my listening to radio talk shows as it is the same blah blah but seemingly little fan excitement. This is despite getting the "all important" national coverage and some admisssion that Houston does have an NFL football team. Heck we are even picked by some experts to go to that Heaven on earth called Super Bowl.

This came to an head after the game against Buffalo as the team played (what is the right word?) not as well as I expected. Well the fans did not react as I expected either; more like "well glad that one is behind us, but not a looking forward to Bears either". I am basically a take it one game at a time guy but where is the maniacal fan base that I lived through during Luv Ya Blue era?

Just waiting for the playoffs.

Playoffs
11-08-2012, 09:58 AM
I think the base and the muff-hugga bandwaggoneers -- as Dread calls them -- were a bit sidetracked by the election. I expect sports will find its way to the top of the local news and public discourse once the O-hangover wears off.

TexanSam
11-08-2012, 10:05 AM
Do any cities who have a dominant football team display chest thumping? Fact is, when a team is terrible everyone has their own opinion on how to fix things so it leads to a lot more discussion. When the Texans are rolling along, doing what they're supposed to do, what are as fans supposed to say? We all agree that they're doing great and that special teams sucks.

Perki-Perk
11-08-2012, 10:11 AM
I don't know about everyone else, but once we got past that farce of an election, I am really pumped about the Bears game!

I'm going to be at On The Rocks in the Woodlands with the Battle Red Freaks cheering on my Texans!!

Fan Up, baby! Go Texans!!!!:texan::gotexans1

CloakNNNdagger
11-08-2012, 10:24 AM
I think the term is cautiously optimistic.

I'll feel a lot better about this season if we win in Chicago. But we need to beat Chicago and/or NE for me to really good about this team heading into the playoffs.


This^^^^

Each team we've beaten thus far, even the best ones, has either had overwhelming warts or have been beaten with an ugly stick immediately prior to coming to the dance.

We are meeting the one loss Bears in the midst of their successful 6 game run. Although their schedule of wins have also been against teams with questionable strength, if we manage to come out showing less of our warts and revealing more of theirs, you will probably begin to see more "rah rah" than you can stand.

Vinnie
11-08-2012, 10:40 AM
I hear what your saying from a "general populace" standpoint, but I've never experienced a season like this one from a stadium attendance standpoint. People are coming out to the games and sticking around until the end like never before.

Cjeremy635
11-08-2012, 10:44 AM
I hear what your saying from a "general populace" standpoint, but I've never experienced a season like this one from a stadium attendance standpoint. People are coming out to the games and sticking around until the end like never before.

That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

Rey
11-08-2012, 10:48 AM
I think some of the enthusiasm was lost when the Packers came in and stole our lunch money.

Bears aren't really battle tested either, so why would a win over them mean much?

Of course I'd rather win than lose, but I'm just sayin'....

chicagotexan2
11-08-2012, 10:50 AM
Bears aren't really battle tested either, so why would a win over them mean much?

Of course I'd rather win than lose, but I'm just sayin'....

This is true. This is a good indicator where both teams stand.

Grid
11-08-2012, 10:53 AM
We made the playoffs last year with a ton of injuries. Going into this year.. we have talked about going deeper in the playoffs and staying healthy.

I think that most folks are excited about the Texans and see us as a team capable of playing in the superbowl.

But we also look at last year and see how easy it is for a great team to become a "good" team with a few key injuries.

Basically.. until we are in the playoffs with all of our important starters playing.. im going to be a little subdued in my fanaticism. 1 or 2 injuries could easily turn this into a replay of last year. Which was great...dont get me wrong.. but I think we would all like to see us accomplish more this time around.

ATXtexanfan
11-08-2012, 11:47 AM
I think the term is cautiously optimistic.

I'll feel a lot better about this season if we win in Chicago. But we need to beat Chicago and/or NE for me to really good about this team heading into the playoffs.

Yup

2slik4u
11-08-2012, 11:52 AM
Bears opponents winning % is .368

Texans opponents winning % is .438

Kind of puts it into perspective when they say "we" havent played anyone. The longer the season goes on, the better/stronger the schedule looks. Miami didnt turn out to be as bad as anyone thought they were going to be and Indy looks like its actually going to be a little test as they are very much in the hunt for the one of the wild card spots. We play them weeks 14 and 16. I secretly wished we played Indy in the beginning of the season before Andrew Luck got 13 NFL games under his belt but, oh well.

We shall crush him anyways...

Stemp
11-08-2012, 12:13 PM
That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

Most stadiums start to empty when the game in hand, either way.

But there is usually a larger exodus when the home team is losing.

Malloy
11-08-2012, 12:21 PM
I still dont get why there were so many empty seats last week... are people having trouble getting into the stadium, are y'all dead drunk in the parking lot or are people just not showing up for the game?

Big Lou
11-08-2012, 12:22 PM
I live in Vegas, and most Texas transplants are from the Southern Oklahoma city of Dallas, so lots of Stars on the cars. However in a 2 week period I saw 3 cars with some form of Texan advert, and one dude walk in to Wal Mart with a Texans Hat.

Used to be the only thing I saw was the occassional tourist with a Texans jersey or hat roaming the Casinos.

Not sure if the success is drawing them out, or maybe a couple of more folks moved he from H-Town.

Either way sure would be nice to get a "Texans Bar" so I could hang out with like minded people.

Vinnie
11-08-2012, 12:27 PM
That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

I didn't say it was perfect, but it has been markedly better than years past. Both with people being in their seats before the game and staying until the end. This has been my honest observation on the season as a whole. I know people were taking off a little early during the Bills game, but come on. If you can understand people leaving if the Texans are getting blown out, you certainly can see it the other way as well, right? We were joking with each other in the seats about the only thing the Bills had left to try for in the 4th quarter was a 10.5 point cover and they couldn't even pull that off.

ItsMyFault
11-08-2012, 12:30 PM
Just wait till it's closer to playoff time. You'll see Houston rocking, the bandwagoners will be out in large numbers. Regular season really doesn't matter to me. We're a lock for the playoffs, probably a lock for a 1st round bye... those are the first two things that matter. After that you can wish for getting the #1 seed, but it's not a requirement IMO. If this team is healthy and stays healthy in the playoffs, the sky's the limit.

TexansFanatic
11-08-2012, 01:11 PM
Just wait till it's closer to playoff time. You'll see Houston rocking, the bandwagoners will be out in large numbers.


Bingo. Playoff season is always when the fans really start getting fired up. It will happen ---- no doubt about it.

TexansLucky13
11-08-2012, 01:21 PM
I am thoroughly enjoying myself. Being a displaced Texans fan up here in Maryland has it's advantages.... assuming that we donkey stomp the Ravens (which we did!). I talk Texans and wear Texans apparel as often as humanly possible. Life is great!

Double Barrel
11-08-2012, 02:26 PM
That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

I was a little surprised that the steady stream of Texans fans leaving at the beginning of the 4th quarter. This is FOOTBALL!! And we have a great team! You pay full price for a ticket to FOUR quarters of NFL football, why not enjoy it?!

Then again, I'm one of the folks who sat through every home game of the 2-14 season, never leaving our seats until the clock showed 0:00, so I might not be the best person to comment on these folks.

I still dont get why there were so many empty seats last week... are people having trouble getting into the stadium, are y'all dead drunk in the parking lot or are people just not showing up for the game?

At one point, the place was packed. I even mentioned to my buddy that I was surprised at how full the wine & cheese levels were packed. Those folks are usually inside enjoying the luxuries not afforded to rabble like myself, but they were mostly there in seats at one point in the game.

Marcus
11-08-2012, 02:42 PM
For me, it's the feeling that we might indeed have the best team . . . in the AFC.

But when we play NFC teams, I'm wondering just how good we really are. Like someone else said, Green Bay tempered my enthusiasm.

Da Bears will tell me a lot about this team. Until then, I'm keeping it in check.

gtexan02
11-08-2012, 02:43 PM
For me, its higher expectations.

I found the buffalo game boring because I expected to win so surely. Going 16-0 is meaningless if you don't take home the Lombardi trophy

Double Barrel
11-08-2012, 02:59 PM
While I'm not going to say that I will celebrate a Super Bowl loss, I will certainly be as happy as a pig in mud if they just make it to the big game.

And honestly, this city will party so hard and hold those guys up as kings if they just make it to the Super Bowl. I could see the potential to lose focus because of all the hype and excitement of a city waiting many decades for the opportunity.

I think Stemp nailed the term, though: cautiously optimistic. We have been conditioned far too long to wait for the other shoe to drop. So let's see them clinch a playoff spot and win multiple playoff games before we assume anything.

Norg
11-08-2012, 03:38 PM
its biz nas has usual we have done nothing yet we havent won the divison havent locked up the Number 1 seed havent won our div playoff game ....

so its still all hands on deck plusss i dont know about yall but im thinking long term i just dont wanna win this years SB i wanna be good from here on out like the steelers and the Pats i want the texans to be good all the way up to 2020

and with Matts and Andre age that worries me in 3 years they will be gone or retired ...so we are going to haveeeee to Hit strong on our draft picks

ThaShark316
11-08-2012, 03:41 PM
The reason is simple:


http://content.sportslogos.net/logos/7/186/full/581.gif

Thanks to those **** faces, Houston will need to witness a Super Bowl win by the Texans to rid itself of pessimism.

badboy
11-08-2012, 03:41 PM
I think the confidence in the idea that we are going to the playoffs has made the regular season start to feel a tad boring. Not saying it will be boring the whole rest of the season, but it just feels kind of "blah" in a relaxed and good way right now. We just beat somebody pretty handily without bringing our A game. I think we'll be up for the Bears, but it isn't game-day yet...

Presidential race might have something to do with it too. Most Texans ain't too happy right now.Very well put and is some of my feelings also.

Norg
11-08-2012, 03:45 PM
pluusss the PLayoff game last year it was NUTZZZ in terms of noise so i expect i to be 2X more epic this year

Norg
11-08-2012, 03:49 PM
That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

People left the bills game in the 4th qtr Cause simply we didnt take the bills serious LOL ..if it was a closer game then yeah things would be different plus alot of people also like to hanf out in the bar areas or go back outside to thetailgate in the 4th

badboy
11-08-2012, 03:50 PM
Do any cities who have a dominant football team display chest thumping? Fact is, when a team is terrible everyone has their own opinion on how to fix things so it leads to a lot more discussion. When the Texans are rolling along, doing what they're supposed to do, what are as fans supposed to say? We all agree that they're doing great and that special teams sucks.

Sam you might not remember the craziness of Luv ya Blue but this city went berserk for two years. I mean strangers meeting by chance in an elevator or just anywhere immediately began talking Oilers. The only thing close to that was the Rockets 1994 and 1995. We may be a dominant thing but still baby new to it; so yeah chest thumping should be rampant. We are nowhere near Packer or Patriot fan expectations of an annual playoff appearance. Texans (people not the team) have always lived through sports from kiddie ball to majors. Having lost an NFL team and going through several losing and so so seasons with McNair's team, I just expect more at least for now.

Norg
11-08-2012, 03:56 PM
Houston fans will always love the texans win or lose cause they are afriad of losing them like the oilers they dont want to Ever lose the texans

badboy
11-08-2012, 04:09 PM
Just wait till it's closer to playoff time. You'll see Houston rocking, the bandwagoners will be out in large numbers. Regular season really doesn't matter to me. We're a lock for the playoffs, probably a lock for a 1st round bye... those are the first two things that matter. After that you can wish for getting the #1 seed, but it's not a requirement IMO. If this team is healthy and stays healthy in the playoffs, the sky's the limit.I can see the bolded if we were talking about basketball or baseball which goes on forever or Hockey that never stops but 16 games? The people I've watched football with go nuts. Yeah 3 adults sometime more yelling another Houston Texans first down. Yelling almost every play as if the players, coaches and referees could hear us or would care if they could. I also believe the Rocket fan is a different breed of cat than the Texan fan.

I don't read only the last chapter of a book and then say I had the experience the author was trying to give.

ObsiWan
11-08-2012, 05:46 PM
These are the remaining games on the reg. season schedule. Eight games left and five of them on the road. Depending on which version of the Texans decide to show up we could win all of them or lose most of them.

11/11 - Bears (anyone else scared of the Bears special teams vs. ours?? ...or Brandon Marshall against a somewhat gimpy J-Jo??)
11/18 - Jags (meh)
11/22 - Lions (Matthew Stafford and Megatron; don't laugh, Stafford has more passing yds than Aaron Rodgers or Matt Ryan)
12/02 - Titans (meh)
12/10 - Pats (errr... Brady, Thomas... 'nuff said)
12/16 - Colts (a pretty damn good rookie and a team playing inspired ball for their seriously ill head coach)
12/23 - Vikings (Adrian Peterson)
12/30 - Colts (see above, but hopefully we'll be playing 2nd & 3rd stringers)

And it's not just the offense that concerns me; if the defense that got embarrassed by the Packers is the one that shows up for the Bears, Lions, Pats, or Vikings (hell, the way Luck is playing, even the Colts) we could go on a losing streak. All those teams have a stud or two that could torch our secondary or gash our run defense (see comments next to each game).

So when we get past that murderer's row of road games, maybe folks will let loose...
maybe....
even then there are still things to fret about...

For example, I know if we go to Brady's place with a 10-2 record, I'll be very worried. Because that game will be for home field advantage throughout the playoffs.

If we're 9-3 or worse when we go to Brady's place, we're playing for the second bye - or worse - because I don't see anyone on the Pats' schedule that can take them down before we play them.

All that to say, it's waaaaay too soon for chest thumping.

rush2112mn
11-08-2012, 08:08 PM
I knew somebody was going to start a Luv Ya Blue fanbase is better than a Texans fanbase someday.....this is that thread.....lol
next......

imatexan
11-08-2012, 08:52 PM
I live in Vegas, and most Texas transplants are from the Southern Oklahoma city of Dallas, so lots of Stars on the cars. However in a 2 week period I saw 3 cars with some form of Texan advert, and one dude walk in to Wal Mart with a Texans Hat.

Used to be the only thing I saw was the occassional tourist with a Texans jersey or hat roaming the Casinos.

Not sure if the success is drawing them out, or maybe a couple of more folks moved he from H-Town.

Either way sure would be nice to get a "Texans Bar" so I could hang out with like minded people.


When we played the Broncos a few weeks back I was in Vegas at the Aria hotel/casino and we had more people with Texans gear on than any other team.

I think the support has been phenomenal and every home game has been packed, in years past when I enter the red lot 30 minutes before kickoff I could drive at least 10 empty rows before cars are parked. This year the entire parking lot if basically full when I enter(like I said around 30 min before kickoff).

It will continue to grow as we get closer to the playoffs and continue to win.
Specifically the support around JJ Watt has been incredible.

CretorFrigg
11-08-2012, 10:30 PM
I live in Cowboys country, but I still see so many Texans gear. I don't remember ever seeing so many Texans merchandise. The response is great here.

Last year, if I wanted to watch a Texans game on the local channels, I wouldn't be able to. This year, I think they've broadcasted the Texans game every week here, except for 1 game.

ItsMyFault
11-08-2012, 11:48 PM
I can see the bolded if we were talking about basketball or baseball which goes on forever or Hockey that never stops but 16 games? The people I've watched football with go nuts. Yeah 3 adults sometime more yelling another Houston Texans first down. Yelling almost every play as if the players, coaches and referees could hear us or would care if they could. I also believe the Rocket fan is a different breed of cat than the Texan fan.

I don't read only the last chapter of a book and then say I had the experience the author was trying to give.

I didn't mean that in terms of fan response. I honestly don't know why I even included any of that in this thread.

What I meant by that is there's no reason to overreact over regular season games. We've seen the last two years where teams that have had injuries and average regular seasons still win super bowls. It's really how this team plays around week 14-17.

As far as fan response to the regular season goes, I definitely agree. Football's different, there's nothing that really comes close to it. I love Sundays.

BigBull17
11-09-2012, 10:02 AM
That's BS! I commented to my wife how embarrasing it was that the stadium was half empty during the 4th quarter of the Bills game. We have a city full of fair weather fans. I could understand if we were getting blown out, but we were winning. I don't see the mass exodus from other stadiums when I see them on TV. It's quite strange IMHO.

Yeah, too many people bail half way through the 4th quarter. I remember the Falcons game last year a few in my section cleared out. And you're not gonna find a better down the stretch game than that.

TexCanada
11-09-2012, 11:24 AM
I think we can expect to see a massive influx of "new" fans near playoff time, and especially if we can make a run in the playoffs.

GP
11-09-2012, 12:55 PM
Sam you might not remember the craziness of Luv ya Blue but this city went berserk for two years. I mean strangers meeting by chance in an elevator or just anywhere immediately began talking Oilers. The only thing close to that was the Rockets 1994 and 1995. We may be a dominant thing but still baby new to it; so yeah chest thumping should be rampant. We are nowhere near Packer or Patriot fan expectations of an annual playoff appearance. Texans (people not the team) have always lived through sports from kiddie ball to majors. Having lost an NFL team and going through several losing and so so seasons with McNair's team, I just expect more at least for now.

Your last sentence holds the key to the problem.

A lot of folks had their heart ripped out when the Oilers left Houston. Maybe these folks have never recovered the way WE have?

For many people, they might have chosen other teams OR might have just give up on it altogether. Plus, with social media and smart phones we're not talking on elevators with people anymore...we're typing things onto a phone and interacting digitally now.

Those things might factor into the lack of buzz. If I want to chat it up about Texans football, I'm doing that here and not with random dude on elevator.

Different times.

badboy
11-09-2012, 02:40 PM
Your last sentence holds the key to the problem.

A lot of folks had their heart ripped out when the Oilers left Houston. Maybe these folks have never recovered the way WE have?

For many people, they might have chosen other teams OR might have just give up on it altogether. Plus, with social media and smart phones we're not talking on elevators with people anymore...we're typing things onto a phone and interacting digitally now.Those things might factor into the lack of buzz. If I want to chat it up about Texans football, I'm doing that here and not with random dude on elevator.

Different times.GP I think your post has much to do with it. I still strike up conversation with random folks wearing and NFl gear & lead into Texans but probably many do not do that.

I have stronger since of urgency/trepidation with Cody out now and OD probably reduced to just a few plays if that.

TejasTom
11-10-2012, 09:34 AM
I was a little surprised that the steady stream of Texans fans leaving at the beginning of the 4th quarter. This is FOOTBALL!! And we have a great team! You pay full price for a ticket to FOUR quarters of NFL football, why not enjoy it?!

Then again, I'm one of the folks who sat through every home game of the 2-14 season, never leaving our seats until the clock showed 0:00, so I might not be the best person to comment on these folks...

I'm with you, I've never left early either. Good or bad, I stay til the end.

76Texan
11-10-2012, 11:51 AM
I'm with you, I've never left early either. Good or bad, I stay til the end.

Heck, I always stay until the end even if it's a PS game, a basketball game, anything really. I can understand that some folks have other obligation afterward though.

Norg
11-10-2012, 11:34 PM
some people dont like to get stuck in traffic some people go back to the parking lot to party and some people go upstairs to creep on da gurlz LOL

thunderkyss
11-11-2012, 02:40 AM
I think the term is cautiously optimistic.


Well, I think the truth of the matter is that we haven't done anything yet.

For us, who live & die BattleRed & SteelBlue, :koolaid: there is plenty to be excited about. But for the casuals & the muffhuggas... we haven't done anything yet.

Stemp
11-12-2012, 11:59 AM
I think the term is cautiously optimistic.

I'll feel a lot better about this season if we win in Chicago. But we need to beat Chicago and/or NE for me to really good about this team heading into the playoffs.

I'm feeling A LOT BETTER this morning!!!!


:koolaid:

speedfreek
11-12-2012, 12:15 PM
Actually, I think this town is more Texans crazy than I've ever seen it..

OH YEAH!!
:koolaid:

TJ

Hervoyel
11-12-2012, 12:49 PM
Heck, I always stay until the end even if it's a PS game, a basketball game, anything really. I can understand that some folks have other obligation afterward though.


You pay so much for the ticket to get in that when I do get to go I get every seconds worth out of it.

DaTruthExplodes
11-12-2012, 12:57 PM
because the texans were suppose to be this great team but when they play prime time games they can barely beat the jets, get crushed by green bay, and barely beat jason campbell.

those games were suppose to showcase our great team but the texans underwhelmed and underperformed.

Cant blame the fans and media for their reluctant approach.

All that matters for the texans are playoff wins.

Norg
11-12-2012, 01:20 PM
did yall see that picture of all the texans fan at that Silver ball thing in CHI someone post that


http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/530976_10151175678349342_1588769709_n.jpg

GuerillaBlack
11-12-2012, 02:47 PM
Did they use to work for Continental?

spurstexanstros
11-12-2012, 04:45 PM
Yall Should see whats happening in San Antonio...heh heh

Ill post pics soon but check out Houston Texans Fan Club of San Antonio on FB. Last night we had party and it was packed. We have over 900 members.(or people who like page...whatever)

Pretty cool...not as monolithic for Dallas as you have been led to believe.

The Pencil Neck
11-13-2012, 10:32 PM
I get more response now than I have in the past when I wear Texans' gear. They play Texans games now here in Dallas almost every week.

But we don't get a lot of media attention because we're not a story. We've got the quietest WRs in the league. We've got one of the calmest QBs in the league. Even most of our defensive players aren't THAT in your face. Our guys aren't going out and shooting people or getting busted or hitting their girlfriends or anything. Our coaching staff could give classes in not giving the other team bulletin board material, always being respectful of the talent of the players on the other team no matter their record.

So most people don't identify with our players. They don't get a chance to learn who our guys are.

BUT.

We had to take a connection through Cincinnati. As I was walking onto the plane, the stewardess pointed at my shirt and said, "You guys are 8-1!" Which was a surprise. Later on, she came by and talked to us. She'd been watching the game in Mexico. When she found out we'd been at the game her response was... "Shut up!" It was kinda cool.

drs23
11-13-2012, 11:06 PM
I get more response now than I have in the past when I wear Texans' gear. They play Texans games now here in Dallas almost every week.

But we don't get a lot of media attention because we're not a story. We've got the quietest WRs in the league. We've got one of the calmest QBs in the league. Even most of our defensive players aren't THAT in your face. Our guys aren't going out and shooting people or getting busted or hitting their girlfriends or anything. Our coaching staff could give classes in not giving the other team bulletin board material, always being respectful of the talent of the players on the other team no matter their record.

So most people don't identify with our players. They don't get a chance to learn who our guys are.

BUT.

We had to take a connection through Cincinnati. As I was walking onto the plane, the stewardess pointed at my shirt and said, "You guys are 8-1!" Which was a surprise. Later on, she came by and talked to us. She'd been watching the game in Mexico. When she found out we'd been at the game her response was... "Shut up!" It was kinda cool.

So...was she Hot? :shades:

The Pencil Neck
11-13-2012, 11:20 PM
So...was she Hot? :shades:

Actually, she was kinda cute.

Speedy
11-14-2012, 06:45 AM
Actually, I think this town is more Texans crazy than I've ever seen it..

OH YEAH!!
:koolaid:

TJ

Agreed. I see more people wearing the gear, car flags, etc. than ever before.

As for people leaving the stadium early, I never do, but it happens everywhere. There were a lot of empty seats at the end of the Steelers game Monday night.

IDEXAN
11-14-2012, 07:03 AM
Do people in Houston still fail to have Reliant filled at KO ? That's a sign of poor
fan support, but many in Houston don't seem to have a clue about that ?

Vinny
11-14-2012, 09:40 AM
It is probably just me but Texans just don't seem to be getting the fan explosion I expected and hoped for. Perhaps if I am correct, it is just caution by many fans to avoid that let down of "fool me once shame on you. Fool me twice...".

Even on this MB where I've come to expect rabid and vociferous comments defending a writer's opinion, the tone just seems to be flat recently. Maybe it is just the bye week, midseason spot we find ourselves in. 7-1 going to Chicago I was expecting an explosion of chest thumping. I have not seen the avalanche of new fans (so called bandwagoners) to this message board. I have even decreased my listening to radio talk shows as it is the same blah blah but seemingly little fan excitement. This is despite getting the "all important" national coverage and some admisssion that Houston does have an NFL football team. Heck we are even picked by some experts to go to that Heaven on earth called Super Bowl.

This came to an head after the game against Buffalo as the team played (what is the right word?) not as well as I expected. Well the fans did not react as I expected either; more like "well glad that one is behind us, but not a looking forward to Bears either". I am basically a take it one game at a time guy but where is the maniacal fan base that I lived through during Luv Ya Blue era?
I haven't read the thread but this isn't high school (yay school spirit) and being "ranked" no1 in the Nation means nothing when you have a playoff system and I personally think that this team is good but not great (weakass AFC). If and when we get to a AFC title game or the SB and you will see all the bandwagon stuff. Till then I think we have more of a smarter, more savvy football fan down here in Houston. This fan isn't going to get all that excited about a decent team getting run out of the playoffs by Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. If and when we beat those guys in the playoffs I think you will be able to "feel" more over the top fan reaction.

badboy
11-14-2012, 09:59 AM
Yall Should see whats happening in San Antonio...heh heh

Ill post pics soon but check out Houston Texans Fan Club of San Antonio on FB. Last night we had party and it was packed. We have over 900 members.(or people who like page...whatever)

Pretty cool...not as monolithic for Dallas as you have been led to believe.this is what I have been looking for. Maybe the tidal wave is just forming. I don't think a win at Jacksonville will impact fan response much as to be expected. Still 9-1 is darn good. :clap:

Exascor
11-14-2012, 10:06 AM
Do people in Houston still fail to have Reliant filled at KO ? That's a sign of poor
fan support, but many in Houston don't seem to have a clue about that ?I don't agree. That's a sign of people failing to leave awesome tailgates. That's a sign of a lot of corporate owned seats. That's a sign of terrible traffic on game days. That's a sign of fans watching the game from places other than their seats. That's a sign of slow/overloaded vendors before the game starts.

IMO - Poor fan support is when you still see tons of empty seats somewhere in the middle of the game. Yes, fans should get in their seats earlier. That's always been the case for Texans games. See above. It still doesn't mean empty seats at kick off means poor fan support.

drs23
11-14-2012, 11:48 AM
I haven't read the thread but this isn't high school (yay school spirit) and being "ranked" no1 in the Nation means nothing when you have a playoff system and I personally think that this team is good but not great (weakass AFC). If and when we get to a AFC title game or the SB and you will see all the bandwagon stuff. Till then I think we have more of a smarter, more savvy football fan down here in Houston. This fan isn't going to get all that excited about a decent team getting run out of the playoffs by Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. If and when we beat those guys in the playoffs I think you will be able to "feel" more over the top fan reaction.

:goodpost:

Summed up my exact thoughts far better than I could.

rep

ThaShark316
11-15-2012, 01:59 AM
I haven't read the thread but this isn't high school (yay school spirit) and being "ranked" no1 in the Nation means nothing when you have a playoff system and I personally think that this team is good but not great (weakass AFC). If and when we get to a AFC title game or the SB and you will see all the bandwagon stuff. Till then I think we have more of a smarter, more savvy football fan down here in Houston. This fan isn't going to get all that excited about a decent team getting run out of the playoffs by Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. If and when we beat those guys in the playoffs I think you will be able to "feel" more over the top fan reaction.

Posts like this is why I believe what I said.

Vinny
11-15-2012, 10:40 AM
Thanks to those **** faces, Houston will need to witness a Super Bowl win by the Texans to rid itself of pessimism.I haven't read the thread but this isn't high school (yay school spirit) and being "ranked" no1 in the Nation means nothing when you have a playoff system and I personally think that this team is good but not great (weakass AFC). If and when we get to a AFC title game or the SB and you will see all the bandwagon stuff. Till then I think we have more of a smarter, more savvy football fan down here in Houston. This fan isn't going to get all that excited about a decent team getting run out of the playoffs by Peyton Manning or Tom Brady. If and when we beat those guys in the playoffs I think you will be able to "feel" more over the top fan reaction.
Posts like this is why I believe what I said.my view isn't pessimism. It's realism. The Stadium is packed, the tailgate lots are overflowing and the team isn't even close to being blacked out on any given Sunday. You guys act like the Stadium is half empty because not everyone is a face-painter or the forum is overflowing with "way over the top guy" spewing dumb homer chants crying about your lack of slaps on the back. Look around...everyone is excited about the team.

It isn't pessimism to say that the fans won't be overwhelmed with more Oiler-style success. If that is as good as it gets...fine, but I have the opinion that we won't see the type of following that the Cowboys get or the Patriots get or the Steelers get until we do what the Cowboys or the Patriots and the Steelers have done...win some Super Bowls. Until then we will get what the Falcons get or the Bills get...fans happy with the team but no over the top fan reaction like the teams get when they win it all a time or two.

infantrycak
11-15-2012, 11:15 AM
I have the opinion that we won't see the type of following that the Cowboys get or the Patriots get or the Steelers get until we do what the Cowboys or the Patriots and the Steelers have done...win some Super Bowls.

Not just that but those fan bases are based on prolonged winning.

The Cowboys have had periods of 17 of 18 years (still a winning season when they missed) and 8 of 9 years in the playoffs.

The Patriots are 9 of 11 years with the two out of the playoffs being 11-5 and 9-7.

The Steelers have missed the playoffs 13 times in the last 40 years.

Between them they have 14 Super Bowl wins.

We're hoping for our 2nd playoff trip ever.

ThaShark316
11-15-2012, 11:43 AM
my view isn't pessimism. It's realism. The Stadium is packed, the tailgate lots are overflowing and the team isn't even close to being blacked out on any given Sunday. You guys act like the Stadium is half empty because not everyone is a face-painter or the forum is overflowing with "way over the top guy" spewing dumb homer chants crying about your lack of slaps on the back. Look around...everyone is excited about the team.

It isn't pessimism to say that the fans won't be overwhelmed with more Oiler-style success. If that is as good as it gets...fine, but I have the opinion that we won't see the type of following that the Cowboys get or the Patriots get or the Steelers get until we do what the Cowboys or the Patriots and the Steelers have done...win some Super Bowls. Until then we will get what the Falcons get or the Bills get...fans happy with the team but no over the top fan reaction like the teams get when they win it all a time or two.

I'm fine with what you are saying, but to drop the "realism" card is a bother. Realism about an 8-1 football team? What exactly are you being realistic about? We aren't talking about a fringe contender with an 5-4 record, saying..."ehh, MAYBE we're a playoff team?"

The "Don't get too close, she'll break your heart" mentality is at work here.

With Super Bowls, I think this city's fans would be Giants fan-like; even with multiple titles. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. "Yeah, we won those, but..."

And don't bring up ATL, please. That fan base is horrid with ALL their teams.

Lastly, cak. That's why I mentioned the Oilers. Even if this franchise saw Carolina/Jacksonville-like success, would we really not have this thread?

2012Champs
11-15-2012, 11:57 AM
Do people in Houston still fail to have Reliant filled at KO ? That's a sign of poor
fan support, but many in Houston don't seem to have a clue about that ?



yes its still a poor showing at KO even a couple weeks ago when we were honoring our service men and women pregame

Vinny
11-15-2012, 01:03 PM
I'm fine with what you are saying, but to drop the "realism" card is a bother. Realism about an 8-1 football team? What exactly are you being realistic about? We aren't talking about a fringe contender with an 5-4 record, saying..."ehh, MAYBE we're a playoff team?"

The "Don't get too close, she'll break your heart" mentality is at work here.

With Super Bowls, I think this city's fans would be Giants fan-like; even with multiple titles. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. "Yeah, we won those, but..."

And don't bring up ATL, please. That fan base is horrid with ALL their teams.

Lastly, cak. That's why I mentioned the Oilers. Even if this franchise saw Carolina/Jacksonville-like success, would we really not have this thread?You have a problem with my "realism"? That's funny since I'm a pretty straight forward guy. I still don't see what you are trying to argue about. My earlier post clearly states that I think that everyone is enjoying the team....so don't strawman me. I just said that just because everyone is not "face-painter" happy its because our fan base is more in line with the fans disposition in Atlanta (never won anything). This thread is about the "Overall fan response not being what I expected". I'm just calling it what it is. Do I really seem like a fan that doesn't want to get too close to the team? (http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk) come on man. :pirate:

ObsiWan
11-15-2012, 05:30 PM
I'm fine with what you are saying, but to drop the "realism" card is a bother. Realism about an 8-1 football team? What exactly are you being realistic about? We aren't talking about a fringe contender with an 5-4 record, saying..."ehh, MAYBE we're a playoff team?"

The "Don't get too close, she'll break your heart" mentality is at work here.

With Super Bowls, I think this city's fans would be Giants fan-like; even with multiple titles. I could be wrong, but that's how I see it. "Yeah, we won those, but..."

And don't bring up ATL, please. That fan base is horrid with ALL their teams.

Lastly, cak. That's why I mentioned the Oilers. Even if this franchise saw Carolina/Jacksonville-like success, would we really not have this thread?

I guess I'm confused over what the heck you expect.

badboy
11-15-2012, 05:47 PM
I expect to see more than one guy wearing apparel when I shop at Walmart, Kroger or when I am at a gathering of people. I want to hear conversation at the pool (ok so weather changing that) about Texans that I do not begin. I want people in line at a restaurant to talk about how well Texans are doing.

Yeah Vinny, it is exactly high school rah, rah. Houston has lost an NFL team and waited 15 years to get where we are with Texans. Football is this city's heart beat. We should be 9-1 Sunday about 3:30 and it will be ho hum. Reliant holds about 70,000 + some tailgaters who do not enter so while that is a rabid audience, it is a drop in the Houston area populace.

Dallas & New England had great fan support before they won all those Super Bowls so unfair comparison imo. I am not seeing the "band wagon fans" I expected. We often have posts about recognition ffrom national media and we can not get it up with our own people.

ThaShark316
11-15-2012, 06:22 PM
You have a problem with my "realism"? That's funny since I'm a pretty straight forward guy. I still don't see what you are trying to argue about. My earlier post clearly states that I think that everyone is enjoying the team....so don't strawman me. I just said that just because everyone is not "face-painter" happy its because our fan base is more in line with the fans disposition in Atlanta (never won anything). This thread is about the "Overall fan response not being what I expected". I'm just calling it what it is. Do I really seem like a fan that doesn't want to get too close to the team? (http://twitter.com/#!/TexansTalk) come on man. :pirate:

I guess the only thing I'm TRYING to say is that, to me, old stuff from franchise past has folks being more...let's call it "cautious".

And with that, I'll always sit and wonder why. Other than that, I got nothing.

ObsiWan
11-16-2012, 05:51 PM
I expect to see more than one guy wearing apparel when I shop at Walmart, Kroger or when I am at a gathering of people. I want to hear conversation at the pool (ok so weather changing that) about Texans that I do not begin. I want people in line at a restaurant to talk about how well Texans are doing.

Yeah Vinny, it is exactly high school rah, rah. Houston has lost an NFL team and waited 15 years to get where we are with Texans. Football is this city's heart beat. We should be 9-1 Sunday about 3:30 and it will be ho hum. Reliant holds about 70,000 + some tailgaters who do not enter so while that is a rabid audience, it is a drop in the Houston area populace.

Dallas & New England had great fan support before they won all those Super Bowls so unfair comparison imo. I am not seeing the "band wagon fans" I expected. We often have posts about recognition ffrom national media and we can not get it up with our own people.

Well, I'm a little confused as to where this multitude of bandwagon fans will come from. I see only two possibilities...

1. A vast, undecided, potential fanbase that has been lurking underground just waiting for us to have a great season - which this has been so far - so they can BUST out and let their fanhood shine thru.

2. For us to convert great masses of fans of other teams to foresake their current allegiances and become full-blown Texans fans.

Regarding #1, we're only ten years old. And for most of that time we did not inspire folks to become Texans' fans with our less than stellar play. And a great many football fans - even in those living in Houston - grew up rooting for other teams. Which brings me to #2. When you grow up rooting for a team, that allegiance is tough to break. Something seriously drastic would have to happen - say moving the team to Tennessee - to cause them to switch their allegiance. And even those folks may be totally turned off of football or have found another team to root for.

I just don't see where this ground swell you expect will come from.

badboy
11-16-2012, 09:33 PM
Well, I'm a little confused as to where this multitude of bandwagon fans will come from. I see only two possibilities...

1. A vast, undecided, potential fanbase that has been lurking underground just waiting for us to have a great season - which this has been so far - so they can BUST out and let their fanhood shine thru.

2. For us to convert great masses of fans of other teams to foresake their current allegiances and become full-blown Texans fans.

Regarding #1, we're only ten years old. And for most of that time we did not inspire folks to become Texans' fans with our less than stellar play. And a great many football fans - even in those living in Houston - grew up rooting for other teams. Which brings me to #2. When you grow up rooting for a team, that allegiance is tough to break. Something seriously drastic would have to happen - say moving the team to Tennessee - to cause them to switch their allegiance. And even those folks may be totally turned off of football or have found another team to root for.

I just don't see where this ground swell you expect will come from.
They come from same place as last season. Don't you remember the lengthy thread on band wagoners? We had another early this season IIRC.

Speedy
11-16-2012, 09:51 PM
If you're expecting people to get on a message board or call a radio station and rah, rah, rah it up, that's just not going to happen. You're not going to call a radio station and say, "hey, how 'bout those Texans? Looking good! Out." This is a society of complainers and that's hard to do when you're 8-1. Look at the threads about are the Texans getting enough national respect or the Oilers would have lost this game. We have to make things up to complain about it's so good now.

But out and about, fan response is through the roof, at least in the greater metro area, from what I see on a daily basis. Stores are packed with Texans stuff - even a Valero. More and more people are wearing the gear, car flags, Texans logos on the back window of their vehicles, it's all over the place. More than I've ever seen. So I don't know what the OP was expecting, but I don't think we're too far away from rivaling the Luv Ya Blue days. And an AFC title game at Reliant just might do the trick.