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PandapuffTexan
11-04-2012, 07:23 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

TheIronDuke
11-04-2012, 07:25 PM
Lol @Foster a non-factor.

TheEastwood
11-04-2012, 07:37 PM
Really? A non-factor? He only leads all running backs in tds

BullNation4Life
11-04-2012, 07:41 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

Leading the NFL in rushing TDs is far from being a "non-factor"

I face palm in your general direction sir!

:mariopalm::kubepalm::toropalm::wadepalm:

PandapuffTexan
11-04-2012, 07:45 PM
yes once shaub gets use to the endzone hes good at running a few yards in for a td, what i was referring to was his yard per carry not use to seeing him get stuffed so much in the back field for a loss.

DocBar
11-04-2012, 07:51 PM
yes once shaub gets use to the endzone hes good at running a few yards in for a td, what i was referring to was his yard per carry not use to seeing him get stuffed so much in the back field for a loss.Maybe you should keep puffing pandas. :bubbles:
Foster is the most marked player on our team and every single team we play gameplans to try and stop him. That's besides the obvious (to anyone but a panda puffer) fact that a lot of his YPC being low is due to the Texans playing with a lead and running out the clock. Jim Brown wouldn't run for many YPC against 8+ in the box.

amazing80
11-04-2012, 08:00 PM
yes once shaub gets use to the endzone hes good at running a few yards in for a td, what i was referring to was his yard per carry not use to seeing him get stuffed so much in the back field for a loss.

Has nothing to do with that right side of the oline right?

:mariopalm:

Hervoyel
11-04-2012, 08:03 PM
I don't get it. On your first point it's not like we've seen all that much of Mercilus so I'd like to say he's very, very good but I don't think we've got enough data to know. I think he's shown positive signs and I'm optimistic.

Foster is second in rushing if I'm not mistaken (off the lead by about 10-20 yards?) and first in TD's. He's far from a non-factor.

Bills fans I know nothing of but I'll accept your assertion since you're the one who smells like beer and has to clean a shirt.

Your fourth point is I think a legitimate question. The turtle returned today a few times and frankly, I still don't like this damn coach. He's lining up against a team that everyone in the NFL and half the SEC could run on and he's got the Texans out there throwing it around. Just run the hell out of them dammit! We came out fat, rusty, and uninterested I thought and didn't put anything consistent together on offense until after the half. The Texans get the ball with 1:42 to go before the half and they turtle their asses to a three and out in about half that time. No attempt to pick up the pace or shoot downfield. Just dicking around the line of scrimmage trying to eat clock. Then they kick it away to Buffalo who actually wants to score before the half and they throw for 11, 12, and 19 yards, then run for 22 before kicking a FG with 9 seconds remaining.

That sums up Gary completely in my eyes. He'll always do that and if Wade hadn't come along we'd be sitting around .500 and trying to keep Luck and the Colts from taking the division away from us. I don't think I'll ever like Gary.

amazing80
11-04-2012, 08:05 PM
Heres my take on the run game TODAY.

Tate was out and Foster has a lot of carries already, Forsett was basically a non factor. Running 50 times with Foster would have been stupid, He played it the best he could without Tate.

The super bowl is our goal not pounding Arian into submission vs a pourous Bills defense just so we get more points.

We won and our defense looked great.

Special teams is still bad and our oline is VERY inconsistent.

Wolf
11-04-2012, 08:11 PM
Didn't know that foster had the flu(per website)

As far as game notes
http://www.houstontexans.com/news/article-2/Quotes-Post-game-vs-Buffalo/acf7a64c-a4a4-4fc5-bd08-907ad7a76490

HEAD COACH GARY KUBIAK (Transcribed by Tiffani Walker)
(on changes he made at halftime) “We moved the heck out of the ball.* I think at that time we were averaging over seven yards a play.* So that’s what you’re looking for.* But when you have as many penalties, first and twenties as we did, you’re just killing yourself.* Other than telling them the truth, no, I didn’t do a whole heck of a lot.* Just told them to get rid of the penalties, we were moving the ball and let’s go back out and play better.”
(on how he felt about the offensive play from the first to the second half) “We played cleaner as a team in the second half.* Defensively, I thought we played very good in the second half.* Offensively, we did away with the things that were hurting us, except for, I think, the second drive. I knew they would come in here and play well.* They had two weeks off and they have a ton of talent, they were fresh, so we knew we had a battle on our hands.* We did a lot of things that are not good enough for us to win consistently, but yet we found a way to survive.* So, I’ve got a lot of things I have to fix.”
(on what he told the team after the game)* “Just what I’m telling you: you’ve got to survive in this league and find a way to win. It wasn’t always pretty.* We did a lot of things as a team, but it wasn’t very smart.* So me as a coach have got to look at things, we as coaches we’ve got to look at things.* But we found a way to get it done.* And it’s about winning. I told them to feel good about winning, but let’s come in tomorrow and try and fix some of that stuff.”

Cjeremy635
11-04-2012, 08:13 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

The real question is why are you here and not being brought in on assault charges? If some fool can't hold his liquor and is spilling it on me, it would not end well in his favor. Just sayin'......:aggressive:

EllisUnit
11-04-2012, 08:18 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

u lost me at foster a non factor......leads NFL in TDs. is top 7 in yards and demands a lot of attention. Hence reason play action like the pass to OD is so successful.

PandapuffTexan
11-04-2012, 08:18 PM
I let one the people working at the stadium know they said they didn't see anything so they cant do anything based on word of mouth. If i Hit a person that would of left a mark.

Exascor
11-04-2012, 08:20 PM
Your fourth point is I think a legitimate question. The turtle returned today a few times and frankly, I still don't like this damn coach. He's lining up against a team that everyone in the NFL and half the SEC could run on and he's got the Texans out there throwing it around. Just run the hell out of them dammit! We came out fat, rusty, and uninterested I thought and didn't put anything consistent together on offense until after the half. The Texans get the ball with 1:42 to go before the half and they turtle their asses to a three and out in about half that time. No attempt to pick up the pace or shoot downfield. Just dicking around the line of scrimmage trying to eat clock. Then they kick it away to Buffalo who actually wants to score before the half and they throw for 11, 12, and 19 yards, then run for 22 before kicking a FG with 9 seconds remaining.

That sums up Gary completely in my eyes. He'll always do that and if Wade hadn't come along we'd be sitting around .500 and trying to keep Luck and the Colts from taking the division away from us. I don't think I'll ever like Gary.Anti-Kubes glasses fogging up Herv? How is running 3 passing plays on the last possession of the first half "turtling"? They had 3 incompletions. How is that trying to eat the clock? Maybe I watched a different game than you did. Heh. Yeah, sometimes a coach playing the odds is frustrating to watch. In this game, with 3 minutes left everyone knew there would be 3 running plays. That's what happened. It burned 2 minutes off the clock and ensured the win. If Kubiak would have called a pass play, WAY more bad things can happen than good things. Incompletion, sack-fumble, interception... Again, it's not exciting to watch but most good coaches (like the current Superbowl winner) would play the odds and burn the clock with a 12 point lead.

Meh...I agree with you on most things Herv, but sometimes the anti-Kubiak crap on these boards (by a quite a few members) gets frustrating. The Texans are 7-1. Enjoy. =)

Wolf
11-04-2012, 08:21 PM
(on WR Andre Johnson’s reps during the practice week) “A lot less reps, and just doing everything we can.* We’ve got him on this certain maintenance program that he’s been holding onto and I just think it shows when he’s playing on Sunday right now.”


From my link. Plus the broadcast said that the Texans were doing that with Owen also(I do realize he has a hamstring issue)

2slik4u
11-04-2012, 08:40 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

When teams work their entire defensive scheme around a running back like foster, he is not exactly a "non-factor". Even if he is averaging 3.9 yds per carry. He dictates the other teams defensive gameplan.

As far as kubiaks decision to run on 2nd and 20; it's easier to covert a 3rd and 10 rather than a 3rd and 20 assuming an incompletion happens. Most defenses sit in dime packages on a 2nd and 20 so throwing for a big gain is harder. It's easier to run on those packages due to less down lineman/linebackers.

Just Because kubiak doesn't heave it down field on 2nd or 3rd and long plays doesn't mean he can't take us to the Super Bowl. In fact, I think it shows the maturity of a coach to know how his team is built and stick with a gameplan. Face the facts, we have a conservative coach. The sooner you accept that, the less likely you will be upset every Sunday.

By the way, were 7-1 and widely considered the best team in the AFC and a top contender to represent the AFC in the Super Bowl.

Things are good right now.

Wolf
11-04-2012, 08:53 PM
If anyone read the game note link. I wonder why the journalists kept asking the same damn question to each player(it seems)

"how does it feel to be 7-1"

I guess other teams get the same type questions when they are winning. I just feel it is a silly question I mean what do they expect a player to say?

texanprincess
11-04-2012, 09:00 PM
Things are good right now.

Things are good right now, but today's offense is not a Super Bowl winner. The play calling will have to be a lot better and Kubiak will need to get out of his conservative comfort zone for the Texans to have even a chance to win. As a fan, it would make me very happy if he would at least demonstrate that he can make the uncomfortable call from time to time.

Hervoyel
11-04-2012, 09:02 PM
Anti-Kubes glasses fogging up Herv? How is running 3 passing plays on the last possession of the first half "turtling"? They had 3 incompletions. How is that trying to eat the clock? Maybe I watched a different game than you did. Heh. Yeah, sometimes a coach playing the odds is frustrating to watch. In this game, with 3 minutes left everyone knew there would be 3 running plays. That's what happened. It burned 2 minutes off the clock and ensured the win. If Kubiak would have called a pass play, WAY more bad things can happen than good things. Incompletion, sack-fumble, interception... Again, it's not exciting to watch but most good coaches (like the current Superbowl winner) would play the odds and burn the clock with a 12 point lead.

Meh...I agree with you on most things Herv, but sometimes the anti-Kubiak crap on these boards (by a quite a few members) gets frustrating. The Texans are 7-1. Enjoy. =)

It's "the turtle" when all three of the passes are thrown to a guy who's barely beyond the line of scrimmage which I thought I made clear. I said nothing about how he ended the game. There's a time when you certainly eat clock and smile. That was the end of this game. I'm just saying the issue was in doubt far too long (as it has often been during Gary's mostly .500 time here). I just don't like the way he calls games. Probably never will. Enjoying 7-1 like a good fan should but I know it's because of Wade's defense and not Gary's offense. Before Wade got here the O was inconsistent but talented and the D was broken. Wade's fixed the D but the O is still at times a mystery.

They come out like this against the Bears and it's going to be ugly next Sunday night.

Marcus
11-04-2012, 09:07 PM
Your fourth point is I think a legitimate question. The turtle returned today a few times and frankly, I still don't like this damn coach. He's lining up against a team that everyone in the NFL and half the SEC could run on and he's got the Texans out there throwing it around. Just run the hell out of them dammit! We came out fat, rusty, and uninterested I thought and didn't put anything consistent together on offense until after the half. The Texans get the ball with 1:42 to go before the half and they turtle their asses to a three and out in about half that time. No attempt to pick up the pace or shoot downfield. Just dicking around the line of scrimmage trying to eat clock. Then they kick it away to Buffalo who actually wants to score before the half and they throw for 11, 12, and 19 yards, then run for 22 before kicking a FG with 9 seconds remaining.

That sums up Gary completely in my eyes. He'll always do that and if Wade hadn't come along we'd be sitting around .500 and trying to keep Luck and the Colts from taking the division away from us. I don't think I'll ever like Gary.

This is exactly what aggravates the ever loving ******* out of me with some of you.

What you are complaining about is exactly what every NFL head coach does. Every GODDAMN one of them. It's just stupid.

****ing fantasy football.

Wolf
11-04-2012, 09:13 PM
Gary said in post game that they try to be 50/50 with pass/run selection.

They were heavy on the passing in the first half and needed to get balance .
Well here
(on having the defense helping out the slow-starting offense) “We were really out of whack at halftime.* I felt good about us throwing the ball and what they were doing to us, but we were heavy out of whack, we were heavy pass, and that was because of all the first-and-twenties.* I told the coaches at halftime, regardless, we are going to get back to 50/50.* We’re going to run the ball and give ourselves a chance to play defense and we did that. And 80 (WR Andre Johnson) stepped up and made some big, big plays for us today. But we got back to balance and I think that was the key to us winning.”

2slik4u
11-04-2012, 09:22 PM
Things are good right now, but today's offense is not a Super Bowl winner. The play calling will have to be a lot better and Kubiak will need to get out of his conservative comfort zone for the Texans to have even a chance to win. As a fan, it would make me very happy if he would at least demonstrate that he can make the uncomfortable call from time to time.

2nd in NFL in scoring offense
4th in NFL in 3rd down %
4th in NFL in Touchdowns scored
6th in NFL in rushing offense
9th in NFL in total yards per game

Those are five very important offensive categories. Now everyone knows that stats dont tell the whole story so lets revert to the record...oh yeah, we're 7-1.

Just because YOU dont think the coach does a good job doesnt exactly mean he isnt doing a good job. The numbers are there. The wins are there. Not exactly sure what else you want from him?

Just a reminder...2nd in the NFL in scoring offense...

utahmark
11-04-2012, 09:29 PM
It's "the turtle" when all three of the passes are thrown to a guy who's barely beyond the line of scrimmage which I thought I made clear. I said nothing about how he ended the game. There's a time when you certainly eat clock and smile. That was the end of this game. I'm just saying the issue was in doubt far too long (as it has often been during Gary's mostly .500 time here). I just don't like the way he calls games. Probably never will. Enjoying 7-1 like a good fan should but I know it's because of Wade's defense and not Gary's offense. Before Wade got here the O was inconsistent but talented and the D was broken. Wade's fixed the D but the O is still at times a mystery.

They come out like this against the Bears and it's going to be ugly next Sunday night.

We have a top 10 offense. We are one of the top scoring offenses in the league. We are leading the league in time of possession. We are 7 and 1. We have outscored our opponents by 100 points this year, that is number 1 in the league.

The facts don't agree with your general observations.

2slik4u
11-04-2012, 09:31 PM
We have a top 10 offense. We are one of the top scoring offenses in the league. We are leading the league in time of possession. We are 7 and 1. We have outscored our opponents by 100 points this year, that is number 1 in the league.

The facts don't agree with your general observations.

This.

DocBar
11-04-2012, 09:35 PM
Gary said in post game that they try to be 50/50 with pass/run selection.

They were heavy on the passing in the first half and needed to get balance .
Well hereIMO, Kubiak knows exactly what he has in Schaub: an accurate, reliable passer who doesn't create a lot of plays in space but excels in making good reads and good decisions. Kubiak gameplans accordingly. Schaub may not be elite or as creative as some QB's, but he also doesn't make as many mistakes. Control the clock, win the turnover battle and don't commit a turnover to give the opponent a short field are the Texans keys to victory in every game. A balanced attack is the easiest way to achieve those goals.

I'll take Schaub throwing the ball away or taking a sack vs. a gunslinger that can throw 4 TD's or 4 INT's on any given Sunday. Again, the gameplans seem to reflect this.

Give Kubiak a QB like Elway and I think you'll see gameplans change accordingly.

drs23
11-04-2012, 09:44 PM
This is exactly what aggravates the ever loving ******* out of me with some of you.

What you are complaining about is exactly what every NFL head coach does. Every GODDAMN one of them. It's just stupid.

****ing fantasy football.

I see it somewhat the same way. Kubiak is never, ever going to please some of the folks on here because they've made up their minds they don't like him and thus, they don't, and never will. No matter what the hell he does. He obviously doesn't have a damn thing to do with them being 7 & 1. Its' ALL Wade and the D.

edit a bunch of rant:D

To the second bolded: X2 (at least :)

/rant

Nite all...

Dutchrudder
11-04-2012, 09:46 PM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?

All I got from this is that you must be EMdiggy's brother or something.

gwallaia
11-04-2012, 09:55 PM
Foster was sick today with the crud and he still rushed for 111 yards and a TD. He was a factor.

Geeez.

Exascor
11-04-2012, 10:47 PM
It's "the turtle" when all three of the passes are thrown to a guy who's barely beyond the line of scrimmage which I thought I made clear.I was slightly off. I thought it was 3 incompletions but remembered that on 3rd down I thought they'd let time tick off and was surprised they went quickly to the line and ran the play.

1st down: Schaub was pressured, threw the ball 12 yards to OD. Incomplete.
2nd down: Schaub was pressured, threw the dump off 2 yards to OD. Complete.
3rd down: No one open. Forced ball to single-covered OD right at 1st down marker. Incomplete.

Not a turtle. Sorry. Kubiak calls the plays. Players have to make the plays. We are a great offensive when we can use the play action. We are an average offense in a 2 minute drill IMO. Blame that on whoever you want but I think Kubiak gets the best from the players he has-much like Phillips does.

What is sad is if the Texans get to the Superbowl and lose "See! Kubiak can't win it all!" will be the cry. If they get there and win " It's all because of Phillip's defense!" Even if they win 45 to 42 Kubiak won't get credit from many people. Erase the 2010 season and Kubiak has done pretty good considering the train wreck we had at D coordinators and the lack of a decent RB to make PA work well.

wolf123
11-04-2012, 11:33 PM
All I got from this is that you must be EMdiggy's brother or something.

:spit:

texanprincess
11-04-2012, 11:48 PM
2nd in NFL in scoring offense
4th in NFL in 3rd down %
4th in NFL in Touchdowns scored
6th in NFL in rushing offense
9th in NFL in total yards per game

Those are five very important offensive categories. Now everyone knows that stats dont tell the whole story so lets revert to the record...oh yeah, we're 7-1.

Just because YOU dont think the coach does a good job doesnt exactly mean he isnt doing a good job. The numbers are there. The wins are there. Not exactly sure what else you want from him?

Just a reminder...2nd in the NFL in scoring offense...


2slik--I never said Kubs wasn't doing a good job--I said today's offense wouldn't win a Super Bowl, and I stand by my statement...Kubiak will have to get out of his comfort zone to win a Super Bowl. If Kubiak is blinded by the numbers as you are, there's a good chance a championship will slip through his fingers.

Hervoyel
11-04-2012, 11:48 PM
This is exactly what aggravates the ever loving ******* out of me with some of you.

What you are complaining about is exactly what every NFL head coach does. Every GODDAMN one of them. It's just stupid.

****ing fantasy football.

Never played fantasy football once in my life. Decline to take part every time I'm asked.

The Third Man
11-04-2012, 11:51 PM
yes once shaub gets use to the endzone hes good at running a few yards in for a td, what i was referring to was his yard per carry not use to seeing him get stuffed so much in the back field for a loss.

Watch more football, post less.

Hervoyel
11-05-2012, 12:01 AM
I was slightly off. I thought it was 3 incompletions but remembered that on 3rd down I thought they'd let time tick off and was surprised they went quickly to the line and ran the play.

1st down: Schaub was pressured, threw the ball 12 yards to OD. Incomplete.
2nd down: Schaub was pressured, threw the dump off 2 yards to OD. Complete.
3rd down: No one open. Forced ball to single-covered OD right at 1st down marker. Incomplete.

Not a turtle. Sorry. Kubiak calls the plays. Players have to make the plays. We are a great offensive when we can use the play action. We are an average offense in a 2 minute drill IMO. Blame that on whoever you want but I think Kubiak gets the best from the players he has-much like Phillips does.

What is sad is if the Texans get to the Superbowl and lose "See! Kubiak can't win it all!" will be the cry. If they get there and win " It's all because of Phillip's defense!" Even if they win 45 to 42 Kubiak won't get credit from many people. Erase the 2010 season and Kubiak has done pretty good considering the train wreck we had at D coordinators and the lack of a decent RB to make PA work well.

Didn't record the game, not going to go to the trouble of finding it. I recall an uninspired possession that went much like this



9-R.Lindell kicks 67 yards from BUF 35 to HOU -2. 82-K.Martin to HOU 26 for 28 yards (53-N.Bradham).
1-10-HOU 26 (1:36) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass incomplete short middle to 81-O.Daniels.
2-10-HOU 26 (1:30) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass short middle to 81-O.Daniels to HOU 29 for 3 yards (50-N.Barnett).
3-7-HOU 29 (1:10) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass incomplete short left to 81-O.Daniels (43-B.Scott).
4-7-HOU 29 (1:05) 5-D.Jones punts 58 yards to BUF 13, Center-46-J.Weeks. 21-L.McKelvin pushed ob at BUF 33 for 20 yards (21-B.McCain). (The punt hang time was 4.5 seconds.)

Gary gets the most out of the players he has. Sounds like a typical apologist for Gary to me but then Gary is a big part of picking the players he has so if he's making chicken salad with chicken **** then he's the one buying the chicken **** and again we're back to Gary.


If the Texans get to the Super Bowl I'll be thrilled. If they get there and Gary does something stupid it will be on display for the whole world to see and I'll *****. If we get there it will be because of Wade's defense as much if not more than Gary's offense. We saw what Gary's offense and Gary's defense got us and it was somewhere between 6-10 and 8-8. Gary picked those DC's so sure, he's going to get the blame for trotting a team out there with no cohesive defense for years. He should get the blame for that. He did it. Gary was driving the train. He's the one who wrecked it.


I hope it all works out. I wish our offense was more consistent and I'm glad our defense is so much better but as I said: I'm never going to like this coach or the way he calls games. He's been here for going on 7 years and I'm resigned to the fact that he's not going anywhere but the minute Wade decides to coach somewhere else or retire we're gonna be in trouble.

dream_team
11-05-2012, 02:10 AM
Didn't record the game, not going to go to the trouble of finding it. I recall an uninspired possession that went much like this



9-R.Lindell kicks 67 yards from BUF 35 to HOU -2. 82-K.Martin to HOU 26 for 28 yards (53-N.Bradham).
1-10-HOU 26 (1:36) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass incomplete short middle to 81-O.Daniels.
2-10-HOU 26 (1:30) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass short middle to 81-O.Daniels to HOU 29 for 3 yards (50-N.Barnett).
3-7-HOU 29 (1:10) (Shotgun) 8-M.Schaub pass incomplete short left to 81-O.Daniels (43-B.Scott).
4-7-HOU 29 (1:05) 5-D.Jones punts 58 yards to BUF 13, Center-46-J.Weeks. 21-L.McKelvin pushed ob at BUF 33 for 20 yards (21-B.McCain). (The punt hang time was 4.5 seconds.)

Gary gets the most out of the players he has. Sounds like a typical apologist for Gary to me but then Gary is a big part of picking the players he has so if he's making chicken salad with chicken **** then he's the one buying the chicken **** and again we're back to Gary.


If the Texans get to the Super Bowl I'll be thrilled. If they get there and Gary does something stupid it will be on display for the whole world to see and I'll *****. If we get there it will be because of Wade's defense as much if not more than Gary's offense. We saw what Gary's offense and Gary's defense got us and it was somewhere between 6-10 and 8-8. Gary picked those DC's so sure, he's going to get the blame for trotting a team out there with no cohesive defense for years. He should get the blame for that. He did it. Gary was driving the train. He's the one who wrecked it.


I hope it all works out. I wish our offense was more consistent and I'm glad our defense is so much better but as I said: I'm never going to like this coach or the way he calls games. He's been here for going on 7 years and I'm resigned to the fact that he's not going anywhere but the minute Wade decides to coach somewhere else or retire we're gonna be in trouble.

You don't like Kubiak. I get it and I can respect that.

But we're freaking 7-1, no doubt the best team in the AFC.

He's obviously doing some stuff right.

kiwitexansfan
11-05-2012, 02:23 AM
Kubiak will call whatever plays he sees fit to finish with more points than the opponent on any given Sunday.

He won't call plays to score as many points as possible on any given Sunday.

I perceive him as being happier protecting a solid lead, than pushing to get a big lead.

He is of the Milton Berle school.

welsh texan
11-05-2012, 02:33 AM
I'll watch a team hold us under 20 points before I start worrying about our production on O.

Yeh, the Bills were still in the game for longer than they should have been, but at the same time, we didn't allow a single TD today and played a team with plenty of talent on D.

Talking about Schaub as a QB, I don't see a QB who is top 10 in terms of natural talent and physical tools, I see a guy who's been coached to the point where he almost always makes the right decision and rarely makes a poor read. That is on Kubiak who has made him what he is, there are plenty of Flynn's, Cassel's & Kolb's out there who've cost a fortune to take as a FA/trade off another team and who've proved exactly why they were only playing as backup.

I don't see anyone really standing up for Kubiak here, the one really black mark - his choice of Defensive coaching personnel, seems to have been taken out of his hands, and when you look at how he coaches up players on offense, you rarely see a player who doesn't eventually become really good. Sure, it can take a little while longer than we'd like, but when it comes time for them to start, they are usually ready.

I'll take what we've got right now tbh, it isn't perfect but it seems like we're in with a shot at a championship at long last.

Looking forward to next weeks game, Da Bears look a good team but they do have weak points that we can game plan against. I think we'll want to be one of the teams every season that sacks Jay Cutler to the point where he just turns awful.

PandapuffTexan
11-05-2012, 07:36 AM
well its good thing I didnt go to the blue crew tailgating,some people on this forum come across as very rude. If read my profile i struggle with a mental illness, no im not the smartess at football or the high on common sense at time. But I dont deserve disrespect.. but since everyone is labeling me as a troll i will leave the forums,,i dont want the added stress of people ive never even met saying what i am when theve never met me and dont know what i deal with on a daily basis. take care texans fans..:kitten:

Joe Texan
11-05-2012, 08:31 AM
See you later man, don't really want you to go but seems theres no stopping a train.

Hey yall take it easy with PandaPuffy

He has his right to his opinion

Joe Texan
11-05-2012, 08:33 AM
I was gonna throw a beer but my good side said no

TexanBacker93
11-05-2012, 08:48 AM
Foster isn't going to get to the line of scrimmage with Kyle Williams lining up in the backfield. I think the game he had was remarkable considering Myers was getting destroyed along with both guards.

Speedy
11-05-2012, 09:21 AM
Enjoying 7-1 like a good fan should but I know it's because of Wade's defense and not Gary's offense.

?????

We have a top 10 offense. We are one of the top scoring offenses in the league. We are leading the league in time of possession. We are 7 and 1. We have outscored our opponents by 100 points this year, that is number 1 in the league.

^^^ Exactly!
Hard to please some people. Can't be watching the same football team as me. Only the Patriots score more points per game than the Texans. The Texans hold onto the ball more than any team in football, are the 6th BEST at converting on 3rd down (bolded for those of you who like to complain about running on 3rd and long), are tied for the most rushing TDs in the NFL.

What the hell else could they possibly do to please some of you? I think Gary's offense is just fine and has more than carried their share of the weight. It isn't ALL defense.

Again, some of y'all can't be watching the same football team I am.

Marcus
11-05-2012, 09:49 AM
Again, some of y'all can't be watching the same football team I am.

They are, but they're watching it with "still butt hurt because Kubiak wasn't fired" glasses.

And PandaPuffTexan, really? You start a thread and make that comment about Foster, and then when you don't like the reaction, you play the "I'm mentally ill" card. Are you kidding me?

You may be entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

TheIronDuke
11-05-2012, 10:00 AM
They are, but they're watching it with "still butt hurt because Kubiak wasn't fired" glasses.

And PandaPuffTexan, really? You start a thread and make that comment about Foster, and then when you don't like the reaction, you play the "I'm mentally ill" card. Are you kidding me?

You may be entitled to your own opinion, but you are not entitled to your own facts.

That would explain why he thought that the NFL team's salary cap was based on sales.

badboy
11-05-2012, 10:41 AM
heres what i took from the game

1. our first round pick is very very good
2. Foster is becoming a non factor
3. bills fans are very obnoxious (still getting the beer stain out my shirt when they dumped beer on me)
4. I question wither kubiak can really take us to superbowl,way to conservative.. 2nd and 20 and they run it?I highly recommend you start a trade Arian Foster thread.

welsh texan
11-05-2012, 10:55 AM
Yep so Aspergers...that affects your social interactions more than your ability to review a football game doesn't it?

So it isn't as if you can claim the way you view a football game is affected by your illness, although your ability to handle people disagreeing with you about your assessment may well be affected right?

Maybe you want to have a little think about whats going on here before you walk away.

Chucking out mental illness to try and make people feel bad for you isn't gonna wash matey, especially if it then transpires that your condition would have nothing to do with your ability to watch a running back rush for 111 yards and decide if he is relevant or not.

DocBar
11-05-2012, 07:16 PM
Yep so Aspergers...that affects your social interactions more than your ability to review a football game doesn't it?

So it isn't as if you can claim the way you view a football game is affected by your illness, although your ability to handle people disagreeing with you about your assessment may well be affected right?

Maybe you want to have a little think about whats going on here before you walk away.

Chucking out mental illness to try and make people feel bad for you isn't gonna wash matey, especially if it then transpires that your condition would have nothing to do with your ability to watch a running back rush for 111 yards and decide if he is relevant or not.My niece has Aspberger's and she can perfectly dissect a Cowpie's game (She lives in Ft. Worth).

ObsiWan
11-06-2012, 03:02 AM
It's "the turtle" when all three of the passes are thrown to a guy who's barely beyond the line of scrimmage which I thought I made clear. I said nothing about how he ended the game. There's a time when you certainly eat clock and smile. That was the end of this game. I'm just saying the issue was in doubt far too long (as it has often been during Gary's mostly .500 time here). I just don't like the way he calls games. Probably never will. Enjoying 7-1 like a good fan should but I know it's because of Wade's defense and not Gary's offense. Before Wade got here the O was inconsistent but talented and the D was broken. Wade's fixed the D but the O is still at times a mystery.

They come out like this against the Bears and it's going to be ugly next Sunday night.

I'm sorry... Just how many points does Wade's defense average per game???" And how many wins - assuming Kubiak's "inconsistent offense" goes scoreless - would that translate to?

Oh and since Wade's defense gives up an average of 17.1 pts/game they better score 18/game since the offense has had nothing to do with our 7-1 record.

/rant

ObsiWan
11-06-2012, 03:13 AM
Things are good right now, but today's offense is not a Super Bowl winner. The play calling will have to be a lot better and Kubiak will need to get out of his conservative comfort zone for the Texans to have even a chance to win. As a fan, it would make me very happy if he would at least demonstrate that he can make the uncomfortable call from time to time.

Sooooo Kubiak taking a shot at the end zone late in the game when we were up 21-9 wasn't good enough for you??

The conservative, "turtle" call would have been to kick the 45 yd FG - we were on or around the 30 at the time. Yet Kubiak rolled the dice and went for the knockout.

I'll bet you didn't even notice that one.

TheEastwood
11-06-2012, 08:20 AM
Sooooo Kubiak taking a shot at the end zone late in the game when we were up 21-9 wasn't good enough for you??

The conservative, "turtle" call would have been to kick the 45 yd FG - we were on or around the 30 at the time. Yet Kubiak rolled the dice and went for the knockout.

I'll bet you didn't even notice that one.

Dude, it doesn't go along with peoples notions so they're not going to mention it. Truth is, Kubiak does not go "turtle". The players just may not execute the playcall. That was a ballsy playcall. And I loved it!

Trail.Blazr
11-06-2012, 08:57 AM
Dude, it doesn't go along with peoples notions so they're not going to mention it. Truth is, Kubiak does not go "turtle". The players just may not execute the playcall. That was a ballsy playcall. And I loved it!

I didn't expect it. Prior to the play, during a timeout to begin the 3rd down call, the camera had Kubes talking to Wade on the sideline, and I'm guessing that Kube's is telling Wade that It's Buffalo's last time out, we're going to run, then punt and run as much time off the clock as possible, then it's on the D to finish the game, which I had NO problem with.

What shocked me more than going for it on 4th was rather than pick up 5 yds and allow another 4 downs for clock runoff, they went for a TD? Seemed like a low percentage play, when a TD really didn't make sense up by 11. Definitely out of character for Kubes.

The Pencil Neck
11-06-2012, 11:22 AM
I didn't expect it. Prior to the play, during a timeout to begin the 3rd down call, the camera had Kubes talking to Wade on the sideline, and I'm guessing that Kube's is telling Wade that It's Buffalo's last time out, we're going to run, then punt and run as much time off the clock as possible, then it's on the D to finish the game, which I had NO problem with.

What shocked me more than going for it on 4th was rather than pick up 5 yds and allow another 4 downs for clock runoff, they went for a TD? Seemed like a low percentage play, when a TD really didn't make sense up by 11. Definitely out of character for Kubes.

I don't think it WAS out of character for Kubes. I think it's out of synch with the pre-conceived notions that a lot of people have about Kubes.

I think it showed just how much he trusts his defense and just how much he DOESN'T trust his special teams.

Kubes is going to play the percentages for most of the time and then take random unexpected shots. He's setting up tendencies so that later, teams are going to be expecting him to follow his tendencies and he's going to break out of the pattern to take a team by surprise.

For the most part, what people want to call "turtle" mode is just good, winning strategy.

El Tejano
11-06-2012, 12:30 PM
?????



^^^ Exactly!
Hard to please some people. Can't be watching the same football team as me. Only the Patriots score more points per game than the Texans. The Texans hold onto the ball more than any team in football, are the 6th BEST at converting on 3rd down (bolded for those of you who like to complain about running on 3rd and long), are tied for the most rushing TDs in the NFL.

What the hell else could they possibly do to please some of you? I think Gary's offense is just fine and has more than carried their share of the weight. It isn't ALL defense.

Again, some of y'all can't be watching the same football team I am.

I think alot of the not pleasing comes from the fact that Eric Davis and LaDanian Tomlinson on NFL Network and the entire ESPN crew can, with a straight face, look in the camera and say things like Baltimore, Pittsburgh and New England are the best teams in the AFC when clearly we've beaten one head to head and have the best record in the AFC.

Or has anyone else noticed that when they say "The Houston Texans are on top of the AFC" the words FOR NOW quickly follow?

That's the reason we want to see this well oiled machine drill the crap out of some of these teams so that we don't have to hear that crap. I guess the only way that happens though is to win the whole thing.

I agree with you. We are exactly what you say we are. It all shows in the stats etc...and when you look at our team we are what are record says we are. A team that has won 7 games and had 1 game where it just wasn't our night. However, nobody points to the fact that all of our wins have been heavily decided wins (yes I'm counting the Jets game, we played aweful but that game was a blowout if not for the kickoff return).

The Pencil Neck
11-06-2012, 12:57 PM
I'll say it again. There are 7 teams at 500 or better in the AFC. We've beaten 3 of them.

I actually like the fact that the pundits are favoring the Patriots, Ravens, and Broncos. Gives us something to prove.