View Full Version : Winslow's father slams the media

06-05-2005, 02:59 PM
Winslow Sr. Lambastes Media Coverage of Son (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050604/ap_on_sp_fo_ne/fbn_browns_winslow;_ylt=AtOBTksuXn41HETnM3h3NJELMx IF;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl)

Kellen Winslow Sr., who drove his son to the event and escorted him into the hotel, initially said he would not comment, either. However, a few hours later, the Hall of Famer changed his mind.

The former San Diego Chargers star angrily accused the media of turning the younger Winslow's accident and recovery into a spectacle.

"I'm disappointed in the way you guys have handled it. Twenty-one-year-old people make mistakes," he said. "He made a mistake. You made it a circus. Remember when you were 21? A human being at 21 makes mistakes. He's not a piece of property."

Winslow Sr. was asked if he expected his son to make a full recovery.

"It's a long career," he said. "I played nine years in the National Football League. Technically, I played six years — two strikes, two major injuries and I came out OK. We look at it as a long-term career.

"You guys look at it as a moment in time and you blow it out of proportion. This Jerry Springer mentality of journalism, you guys are better than that. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Presidents make mistakes. Senators make mistakes. Journalists, if you still call yourselves that, make mistakes."

The guy actually does have point. :fishing:

06-05-2005, 05:19 PM
When you always want the spotlight (like Kellen, Jr. does), you can't pick your moments when you get it. You take the bad with the good.

06-05-2005, 05:21 PM
I would be pissed off too if the media made a huge spectacle of my son getting sent to the hospital after a motorcycle accident, even if it was a dumb mistake.

06-05-2005, 05:50 PM
This is like the Bennifer thing, and now the Katie Holmes-Tom Cruise story. It just seems like the media is more interested in sensationalism than actual journalism these days.

06-05-2005, 06:01 PM
too bad his son doesn't have the eloquence and common sense that his father has.

06-05-2005, 06:08 PM
A father's gonna do what a father does ... defend his son.
But 21 or not .. when you are handed a multi-million dollar job with all the glitz and glamour, along comes larger levels of responsibility.
If he can't handle the latter, than it doesn't seem right to be given the former. He's not just your 'average 21 year old' out there doing what everyone else does .. as Papa Winslow puts it.

06-05-2005, 11:50 PM
MSNBCs "Rebuttal" - via Whine of the Week (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3298669/)

Any teacher will tell you it’s not that big a deal when kids whine about imagined injustices. They’re kids, they’re immature, and you expect it.

What really annoys teachers is when parents come in as surrogate whiners for their kids. Invariably, the kids are the sort who continually get in trouble, but always deny having anything to do with the trouble they caused, even when they’re holding the evidence.

Teachers don’t need to wonder how these youngsters get that way. They know just as soon as their parents arrive to swear on all that is holy that their little Heather or Josh would never do a thing like that and how dare a mere teacher, whose salary is being underwritten by the taxpaying parents, say he or she would?

Unfortunately, teachers aren’t allowed to take a ruler to the parental knuckles. But you know they’d like to.

That’s pretty much how Cleveland sportswriters are feeling about our Whiner of the Week, Kellen Winslow Sr., who took the time last week to lecture them about how unfair they’d been to his poor, defenseless, innocent little boy, Kellen Jr.

Junior, as you may recall, was the Browns’ first-round draft choice in 2004. He held out for more money than the team was willing to pay him, which was his right, saying he was worth it because he was going to be the greatest tight end since his father. He played in two games, broke his leg, and missed the rest of the season.

This spring, Junior took time from his rehab schedule to have a little fun on a new motorcycle he’d bought. He didn’t need no stinkin’ lessons on the bike, an opinion that lost credibility when he went hurtling over a curb at 35 mph, causing serious damage to his internal organs and severing an ACL, thus rendering him unavailable for his second year in the NFL.

Junior’s contract specifically prohibited riding motorcycles, and he showed considerable remorse at his youthful lack of judgment. Just the same, the local media felt it their duty to lecture him on his behavior and lament a bad beginning to yet another football season on the shores of Lake Erie.

It would have ended there, but Kellen Sr. had to come with Junior to a team function and lecture the press.

“I’m disappointed in the way you guys have handled it,” Senior whined. “Twenty-one-year-old people make mistakes. He made a mistake. You made it a circus. Remember when you were 21? He’s not a piece of property.”

Actually, Kellen Sr., he is a piece of property, and he’s deprived the owners of his contract of the use of that property. And, yes, we all remember when we were 21 and did stupid things. After doing them, we felt we deserved all the criticism and grief we got.

Do your kid a favor and help him grow up instead of reinforcing his belief that nothing is ever his fault.

06-06-2005, 08:41 AM
Do your kid a favor and help him grow up instead of reinforcing his belief that nothing is ever his fault.

Actually, another good point! :fishing:

06-06-2005, 08:57 AM
The media handles everything like that. When your kid is as outspoken as he is, you shouldn't be surprised at how the media handles it.

06-06-2005, 09:03 AM
And we wonder why kids seem to have no sense of accountability/responsibility these days...

Winslow is 21 years old. He's an adult. His father needs to shut his trap and let his kid take his much-deserved lumps for doing something extremely stupid and risking his career as well as the Browns' future.

06-06-2005, 09:11 AM
Well look on the bright side, at least little Kellen knows that his dad is a Soldjah!!!!!!!

What a joke! 21 yrs old is not a kid , he is an adult (since 18). Mistakes are going to be magnified once you turn 18, and after college, even more so. You'd think a well reputable school like the Univ of Miami would produce some classy adults.....then again, it is still Gangsta U....no need to let the cred go away!

06-06-2005, 09:28 AM
If the Winslows didn't have such a shroud of secrecy around this thing it would've been back page news by now ....

06-06-2005, 12:43 PM
Ok but please realize your first instinct as a parent is ALWAYS to defend your child. I dont care how old they are. My grandmother defends all her children to no end no matter how much they screw up and all her children are over 50.

Now does that mean Kellen Sr. wont chastize his son in private about his decisions? I think K Sr will talk to his son but there is no need for him to do it public for all the *****s to see.

The media takes one story and they run with it until the next sensational story comes along. The media doesn't report news anymore they CREATE it. You'd think they found WMD's in K2's motorcyle they gave this story so much press or that Bush suddenly quit being an ***** and realized he lied to all of america....and admitted to it.

The boy was riding a motorcyle he crashed. Get over yaselves.

06-06-2005, 01:18 PM
David Carr getting a haircut was on all 3 Houston news programs and made the paper. It's just the way it is. Sports and athletes make news. Whether it's warranted or not what they do is reported.

06-06-2005, 01:22 PM
Maybe now Warren Sapp will stop using the "slaves" analogy, and realize that NFL players get more pub than they deserve.......there is no such thing as bad publicity! Ask Paris Hilton!

06-06-2005, 01:48 PM
Ok but please realize your first instinct as a parent is ALWAYS to defend your child. I dont care how old they are.

I have 5 of my own and I couldn't agree with you more but guys like K2, TO, ..... can't have it both ways. When things are going good they look for microphones. When things go bad then the "media doesn't report news anymore they CREATE it".

You'd think they found WMD's in K2's motorcyle they gave this story so much press or that Bush suddenly quit being an ***** and realized he lied to all of america....and admitted to it.

huh? idonno:

Get over yaselves.

done. :thumbup

06-06-2005, 02:13 PM
i dont really think he made a mistake, he was havin fun, and had an accident. Just because he plays a sport, doesn't mean he's banned from a motorcycle. It was just an unfortunate incident and the media made a field day off of it.

06-06-2005, 02:24 PM
OMG you have got to be kidding, right?

Because the Browns own him (and that is the only way to look at it!), he signed a contract which in it states that he is not to partake in any of the hazardous activities listed. He did, got injured (seriously) and therefore was careless....not mistaken.

The media is on him for being such an *****. He held out last season after protesting he deserved much more than he was worth (self-hype), played two games and was done. He wasn't even completely healed when he decided to ride the motorcycle, and Murphy's Law....he got injured and is now considered one of the top 5 busts in the NFL!

Just having fun, huh? Sort of like many married people do when they decide to partake in adultry? Aren't they just having fun too? Oh wait, they singned a contract, that stipulates "having fun" could result in voiding the marital contract.

Self-glossed "K2" is nothing more than a :crying:

If he were truly a "Soldjah", he'd take up for himself instead of having his daddy do it. What a PUNK!

06-06-2005, 07:41 PM
ChuckM, the only thing I was saying with the WMD comment was the newspaper turned this kid's accident into something so serious like it needed to be front page news.

I get tired of turning on the news and them running the same clip over and over and over. Its an accident. He makes millions. Great. MOVE ON.....

Maybe I just dont jump everytime a celebrity or athlete's name pops up in the news. I'd like to think these people want some privacy and that the rest of us have better things to do than go through their garbage.

Mike you are really tripping. You are going to tell me for one second that you as a parent or as a child wouldn't have stuck up for your child or would have been stuck up for by your parent in this situation?

Paternal instincts plain and simple.

06-06-2005, 08:06 PM
Winslow Sr. needs to get over it. I guess it's the media's fault his son runs around acting like a spoiled brat... :dangit:

06-06-2005, 09:09 PM
Ahh, 21. Gosh I was blessed! Didn't fall off any motorcycles or suffer any injuries from an assortment of the other daring feats that were fun back in the day.

06-06-2005, 09:41 PM
I was watching the bottom line on espn news and it said that senior said he was sorry about the comment.

06-06-2005, 10:58 PM
I think Dad is just very frustrated. He's an ex player so he knows how the NFL is run...he knows the Browns are counting on Jr. and have been for 2 years....he knows the money spent...but the media is intrusive and it's just very frustrating.

06-07-2005, 07:55 AM
1. Jr has apologized for the accident. I think he truly knows the error of his ways.

2. I have two children. I try to let them handle situations that are not causing them or others physical danger. (i.e. I am not going to be there in college when they encouter different situations. I want my children to learn to handle themselves. I will provide support when they ask.)

3. Remember when Archie Manning spoke to the media for Eli. I would consider that to be overbearing myself, but maybe Eli asked his dad for help?

I geuss it is possible that Jr was asking his dad for some help. If my son asked me to help him, then I would. Of course, my father made me remove my own transmission on an old 82 Plymouth Horizon. :) Some things are best learned without much help.

06-07-2005, 08:34 AM
I have two children......CHILDREN. I will be there to protect them and give them support when needed....I will not baby them now or when they are adults. To me, that deprives them of learning how to live on their own. As you may know, parents frequently pass on before their children, so it is a good idea to let them become the women or men you hope you have raised while they were children.

By K1 "defending" his child's exposure to the media, he made a complete mockery of the media and the NFL. Why is it that these former NFL players baby their sons who are now in the NFL (see Eli as well). I never recall Peyton needing his daddy to help him, but why then did Eli get help? He is not mature enough to deal with the media exposure (much like K2). I'm sure K1 was embarrassed with the "I'm a SOLDJAH" take, as were many of his ESPN collegues, therefore, he did not want a repeat of his son saying something embarrassing. Well, dad won't always be there for him and he needs to learn to grow up.....now is as good a time as ever....let him take his lumps via the media, and maybe he will learn a little humility!

06-07-2005, 08:41 AM
First off, Carr is like the prodigal son of Houston, and it was just on those local stations. And plus, getting a haircut didn't inflict danger upon Carr's playing future. I have been very critical of the young Winslow as some of you may have know. Here's the thing though...dad can't fight his battles for him. No problem with advising him in how to handle some issues, but your kid is an adult. LET HIM FIGHT HIS OWN BATTLES!! As far as I'm concerned, Jr. was doing a pretty decent job until his father opened his mouth.

One more thing. If you are a professional athlete of any kind, you should never do something that is extremely dangerous which could cost you long term. For example, stay off the high-performance motorcycle. Don't drink and then any of the following; driving, shooting, fighting, etc.

I KNOW that David getting a haircut is not endangering anybody or David...my analogy was that the media jumps over anything these guys do...including getting haircuts which is about as interesting as watching grass grow. But was I comparing him to Winslow...no.

06-07-2005, 08:45 AM
Just because he plays a sport, doesn't mean he's banned from a motorcycle.

It does if it's written into your contract, as it was in Winslow's case. He's in clear violation of his agreement with his team. That's why the Browns will attempt (and probably succeed) to recoup a chunk of his signing bonus.

06-07-2005, 06:46 PM
1. Jr has apologized for the accident. I think he truly knows the error of his ways. :rofl: :pigfly: You're kidding right?

He most assuredly has "millions" of reasons to apologize, but I'm not buying into too much sincerity there. If he didn't learn his lesson with the "Soldjah" incident, and still proceeds to do REALLY stupid things, then I'd say his errors aren't done with yet.

As for Sr..... having heard the whole 1-sided deal on 610 last night, where Sr. kept 'berating' the journalist for his questions and then asking him what his "next" question was, I've lost what little sympathy I had for the whole family. This is definitely NOT media spin....anyone who's heard the "interview" (I'm using that term VERY loosely) can't fail to hear the derision in Sr.'s tone and how unfairly the journalist was treated. Little snippets like "If you guys can still call yourselves Journalists!" just iced the cake.

The media in this country often 'gets away' with far too much while hiding behind 1st amendment rights....this isn't one of those instances.