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badboy
10-27-2012, 05:51 PM
Health and commitment kept Wade a Texan this season. If we win Super Bowl, would he still have same commitment? He still yearns to be a head coach imo. There should be teams willing to give a defensive guru with Texans stats and a ring a chance to be head coach.

I hope McNair has a huge bonus plan to keep him in Houston. Wade is under contract thru 2013 but can leave for H.C. position. If he goes, I am not sure if we have his replacement in house.

Vinny
10-27-2012, 05:55 PM
he may leave with or without winning a SB. Enjoy him while you have him because the only thing that moves more than the players are the coaches. Hopefully he retires here but somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

The Pencil Neck
10-27-2012, 05:58 PM
Doesn't even have to win a SB. This defense just has to keep putting up good numbers and I'm afraid he's going to have a lot of opportunities to go be an HC.

And this is my biggest fear. We saw how the defense suffered when Wade was out at the end of last season. It's not just the defense and the players that make it work, it's his play-calling. We need that.

I hope, for my own sake, that he stays and decides that it's a lot more fun being a DC and stomping people's lights out than having to be an HC and deal with all the crap that falls in the HC's lap.

But I doubt that will happen. I can't see how he won't be an HC somewhere next year and I don't know if we can replace him.

Big Lou
10-27-2012, 06:30 PM
he may leave with or without winning a SB. Enjoy him while you have him because the only thing that moves more than the players are the coaches. Hopefully he retires here but somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

Hope he stays, but at least with his arrival Bob see's what a top tier DC can do versus a 2A High School DL coach that has connections. So hopefully he will seek top talent moving forward.

DX-TEX
10-27-2012, 06:33 PM
Wade Twittered the other day he was spending the byw week in Dallas and that him and his wife were in process of building a home in Houston. Im thinking he is done moving around.

He IS the highest paid DC in the league at 2.5 million per year soo.....

GlassHalfFull
10-27-2012, 06:37 PM
I keep hoping/thinking his age is going to be a factor in keeping him here.:wadepalm:

htowntexans1985
10-27-2012, 06:43 PM
Phillips @ sonofbum

I am in Dallas for the open date-We
finalized plans for building a home in
Houston #Houstonishome

Looks to me like he has plans to stay.

steelbtexan
10-27-2012, 06:50 PM
Even if the Texans dont win a SB and Wade gets a HC gig, he's gone, as it should be.

Lurvinator11
10-27-2012, 07:02 PM
Phillips @ sonofbum

I am in Dallas for the open date-We
finalized plans for building a home in
Houston #Houstonishome

Looks to me like he has plans to stay.

I hope that is code for "I'm staying in Houtson"

I don't want him to leave. I will say, building a house anywhere, means you have long term plans.

amazing80
10-27-2012, 07:15 PM
Why does this keep getting brought up? Do you people have nothing better to do with your time other than starting threads on stupid imaginary thoughts?


He is TOO OLD to be hired as a head coach again. He failed as HC and his health is not great. He isn't going anywhere unless he retires. He will be our Dick LeBeau

ObsiWan
10-27-2012, 07:22 PM
Health and commitment kept Wade a Texan this season. If we win Super Bowl, would he still have same commitment? He still yearns to be a head coach imo. There should be teams willing to give a defensive guru with Texans stats and a ring a chance to be head coach.

I hope McNair has a huge bonus plan to keep him in Houston. Wade is under contract thru 2013 but can leave for H.C. position. If he goes, I am not sure if we have his replacement in house.


I hope, for my own sake, that he stays and decides that it's a lot more fun being a DC and stomping people's lights out than having to be an HC and deal with all the crap that falls in the HC's lap.

But I doubt that will happen. I can't see how he won't be an HC somewhere next year and I don't know if we can replace him.

These statements dance around the key point. Whether he retires or moves on to one more shot as a head coach, the bottom line is one day - hopefully in the far future - we'll lose him.

The key point IMHO is:

Are we grooming his successor? If so, then who is he?

Ryan
10-27-2012, 07:28 PM
These statements dance around the key point. Whether he retires or moves on to one more shot as a head coach, the bottom line is one day - hopefully in the far future - we'll lose him.

The key point IMHO is:

Are we grooming his successor? If so, then who is he?


My bet would be Vance Joseph if he doesn't get taken away at some point.

houstonspartan
10-27-2012, 07:29 PM
Not THIS again.

Can't we just relax and enjoy this season as it is?

ObsiWan
10-27-2012, 07:31 PM
Not THIS again.

Can't we just relax and enjoy this season as it is?

we ARE relaxed...

see....

:overreact:

powda
10-27-2012, 11:34 PM
Wade is clearly an ambitious individual. I remember quotes from him during the offseason about his record as a coach and how it seemed to him a slight that he didnt get more hc consideration. He'll leap at the chance if its presented at a decent organization. He's not grooming our next d coordinator. He's grooming his coordinator. Sorry to piss on the parade but he wont be back in 2013.

Norg
10-28-2012, 03:04 AM
no because he will have to come back for a Back to back SB win !!!! : )

Corrosion
10-28-2012, 07:52 AM
no.

BullBlitz
10-28-2012, 08:07 AM
The San Diego Chargers will attempt to sign him after this season, and I think he will consider it. Last chance as head coach, AFC team, great city, decent QB and offense.

Needs defense.

CloakNNNdagger
10-28-2012, 09:07 AM
The San Diego Chargers will attempt to sign him after this season, and I think he will consider it. Last chance as head coach, AFC team, great city, decent QB and offense.

Needs defense.

I don't believe Wade's going anywhere. Here he has the potential of helping build a dynasty for which he has and will be given a great deal of the credit.
Going to San Diego will be having the end of his legacy following that of Johnny Unitas.

BullBlitz
10-28-2012, 09:26 AM
I don't believe Wade's going anywhere. Here he has the potential of helping build a dynasty for which he has and will be given a great deal of the credit.
Going to San Diego will be having the end of his legacy following that of Johnny Unitas.

He says he wants to be a Head Coach again. I'm just taking him at his word.

I believe he will get offers, and because of his expressed desire, he will accept one. But, we will know in January or February.

rush2112mn
10-28-2012, 10:06 AM
So...your assuming we get to the Superbowl first.....
He might leave even if we dont......
He still thinks he can head coach. I would not put it past some owner to take a chance and sign him to be a head coach again.

GP
10-28-2012, 10:27 AM
JJ Watt is our next d-coord.

Solved.

Nawzer
10-28-2012, 10:47 AM
Even if Wade doesn't leave, how many more years do you think he want to do this job? He's getting up there in age and I hope he continues to coach here for a long time, but I hope we're also grooming a replacement d-coordinator behind the scenes. Someone like a Vance Joseph who has done a great job with the secondary over the past couple of years.

Goldensilence
10-28-2012, 11:06 AM
To me it's all about looking at the NFL coaching carousel possilby next season.


To me there's likely going to be 3 premier openings S.D. , Dallas, and Philly.

There's likely to be an opening in K.C., Cleveland, and it's going to go down the wire to see if Rex can keep his job in N.Y. (Even then offensively the team is a cluster..)

We can cross off Dallas, I think they're going to go hard after Cowher or lure Gruden out of the booth. I also think Philly will be doing the same as well. At the end of the day I don't think either are going to be after him.

Though Wade does have some S.D. ties I also see AJ Smith prolly getting shown the door and this franchise is likely going to want to go in a totally different direction.

The rest will come down to how BADLY he really does want to be a HC because of the last 3 options....while there's differing parts to each none are premier or stepping into good situations.

At the end of the day.....he's got in damn good in Houston. He gets just as much control (and credit) as a HC here. He gets paid more than some HCs do, though I don't think money is a huge fact. He has a chance to be an icon in the city, if he already isn't. To top it off he's in a very stable situation, he doesn't have to look over his back all the time, and he's going to more than have his own say in personnel.

Doppelganger
10-28-2012, 11:22 AM
he may leave with or without winning a SB. Enjoy him while you have him because the only thing that moves more than the players are the coaches. Hopefully he retires here but somehow I don't think that is going to happen.

He is getting up there in age. The trend we see is for the younger OC/DC coordinators to get the Head coaching jobs. We are not really seeing older coaches, in their mid 60s who have never won superbowls getting the jobs. He may want a head coaching job, I just wonder if last year was his last real chance.

PandapuffTexan
10-28-2012, 11:22 AM
To me it's all about looking at the NFL coaching carousel possilby next season.


To me there's likely going to be 3 premier openings S.D. , Dallas, and Philly.

There's likely to be an opening in K.C., Cleveland, and it's going to go down the wire to see if Rex can keep his job in N.Y. (Even then offensively the team is a cluster..)

We can cross off Dallas, I think they're going to go hard after Cowher or lure Gruden out of the booth. I also think Philly will be doing the same as well. At the end of the day I don't think either are going to be after him.

Though Wade does have some S.D. ties I also see AJ Smith prolly getting shown the door and this franchise is likely going to want to go in a totally different direction.

The rest will come down to how BADLY he really does want to be a HC because of the last 3 options....while there's differing parts to each none are premier or stepping into good situations.

At the end of the day.....he's got in damn good in Houston. He gets just as much control (and credit) as a HC here. He gets paid more than some HCs do, though I don't think money is a huge fact. He has a chance to be an icon in the city, if he already isn't. To top it off he's in a very stable situation, he doesn't have to look over his back all the time, and he's going to more than have his own say in personnel.

Hes making a house in houston, if he plans on moving away why build a house here? I think his wife and him decided its time to sette down..i feel he will be here for maybe 5 years then retires( hopefully we have a ring by then).

Wolf
10-28-2012, 11:25 AM
It's great that Wade is building a house here, but with the amount of jack he makes per year, he can afford a house or two in different parts do the country

Thorn
10-28-2012, 11:26 AM
I can't worry about this. But, if I was a betting man, I would bet he'll be here next season. Nothing we can do about it anyway.

speedfreek
10-28-2012, 11:35 AM
Wade wins superbowl, then retires from the NFL to bring a national championship to the University of Houston as head coach of them fighting H-town Coogazz!

OH YEAH!!
:koolaid::koolaid::koolaid:

TJ

badboy
10-28-2012, 10:18 PM
Amazing that Phillips can be considered for 2012 but not 2013 due to age (66).
Amazing that all coaches have a house one place and cannot coach in another.
Amazing that some of you cannot think past next game. As long as I have a bowel movement today, no need to be concerned about having toilet paper for tomorrow.

Texecutioner
10-28-2012, 10:59 PM
Why does this keep getting brought up? Do you people have nothing better to do with your time other than starting threads on stupid imaginary thoughts?


He is TOO OLD to be hired as a head coach again. He failed as HC and his health is not great. He isn't going anywhere unless he retires. He will be our Dick LeBeau

People are always so quick to say that someone failed as a HC. How did he fail? He went 34-22 as a HC. He only had one losing season and was fired at mid point of that season. So he had 3 out of 4 winning seasons while coaching some of the worst misfit teams in history. ONe of those years they went 13-3 having the best record in the NFC. Wade is also the only HC to win a playoff game for the Cowboys for like 15 years or something like that . Wade did not fail at all. He had the type of success that a lot of coaches would have been proud of. Jerry gave him a really short leash and wanted Garrett all along. Wade did a pretty good job though.

m5kwatts
10-29-2012, 01:56 AM
JJ Watt is our next d-coord.

Solved.

Eh. Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, and Ron Rivera could all be looking for work next year. I'd take any of them to replace Wade.

TheMatrix31
10-29-2012, 02:38 AM
Just say no to that fat, obnoxious, bitchmade, piece of ****ing **** Rex Ryan. If that guy ever steps foot into our franchise, I'm done with the team until he's gone.

fiasco west
10-29-2012, 03:15 AM
I wouldn't give a ____ !

We'd have a superbowl, I'd be too busy relishing that to even care. Hopefully the Texans have learned their lesson.

IMO the coaches in the NFL are WAY WAY more important than the players. The players come and go but the coaches don't. If Wade leaves then pay another coveted DC and realize the importance of having great coaches.

b0ng
10-29-2012, 07:05 AM
Amazing that Phillips can be considered for 2012 but not 2013 due to age (66).
Amazing that all coaches have a house one place and cannot coach in another.
Amazing that some of you cannot think past next game. As long as I have a bowel movement today, no need to be concerned about having toilet paper for tomorrow.

Who pissed in your cheerios?

TexanSam
10-29-2012, 07:39 AM
Just say no to that fat, obnoxious, bitchmade, piece of ****ing **** Rex Ryan. If that guy ever steps foot into our franchise, I'm done with the team until he's gone.

Dude, it's only football. Calm down.

TimeKiller
10-29-2012, 08:03 AM
This topic is some serious cart-before-the-horse stuff.

Also, in case nobody has figured it out yet.....

When he says, "I'd like to be a head coach again"-

He means, "I'd absolutely take Gary's job if offered".

Double Barrel
10-29-2012, 09:59 AM
Would Phillips leave after a Super Bowl?

I don't know, but I look forward to finding out after our Super Bowl! :texflag:

The1ApplePie
10-29-2012, 10:08 AM
Its there an owner dumb enough to make Wade a head coach again?

The best defensive coach in the game, just a horrible head guy.

Then again, Norv has gotten a slew of jobs...

TheMatrix31
10-31-2012, 02:40 AM
Dude, it's only football. Calm down.

No, it's not "only football". I root for groups I can be proud of. I can't be proud of people I don't like.

It's about branding. It's about conducting your organization in a proper, respectable, orderly, classy fashion.

Rex Ryan is the antithesis of "Houston Texans", and the antithesis of all the reasons I love this football team.

Seņor Stan
10-31-2012, 06:37 AM
Rex Ryan. If that guy ever steps foot ...

I see what you did there!

TexanSam
10-31-2012, 07:47 AM
No, it's not "only football". I root for groups I can be proud of. I can't be proud of people I don't like.

It's about branding. It's about conducting your organization in a proper, respectable, orderly, classy fashion.

Rex Ryan is the antithesis of "Houston Texans", and the antithesis of all the reasons I love this football team.

Because Rex Ryan loves to talk? Sure, we all got tired of his act a few years ago but how much of that is his fault and how much of it is ESPN showcasing it because he's in New York. Fact is, he can coach defense. If it ever came to the point that he's looking for a job and the Texans have an opening because Wade left, then hell yes you take a look. I don't care so much about his attitude. It never seemed to be a problem in Baltimore.

Thorn
10-31-2012, 07:56 AM
Lots of shoe stores in Houston, Rex would like it here.

speedfreek
10-31-2012, 08:23 AM
Fify

just say no to that fat, obnoxious, bitchmade, piece of ****ing **** rex ryan. If that guy ever brings his foot-fettish into our franchise, i'm done with the team until he's gone.

Mike77015
10-31-2012, 08:29 AM
What everyone has failed to point out is the relationship Wade has with Bum. They are very close, and I think that wade knows he is very limited on the amount of time remaining to spend with his dad. He has it made here, and gets to spend time with his dad. He will stay!

speedfreek
10-31-2012, 08:33 AM
If Houston made a key to the city. it would go to the Phillips family..
TJ

What everyone has failed to point out is the relationship Wade has with Bum. They are very close, and I think that wade knows he is very limited on the amount of time remaining to spend with his dad. He has it made here, and gets to spend time with his dad. He will stay!

Mike77015
10-31-2012, 08:38 AM
If Houston made a key to the city. it would go to the Phillips family..
TJ

I would like to see Bum be named honorary coach for the Texans so that he will not only be labled with the Oilers in this city.

badboy
10-31-2012, 09:57 AM
What everyone has failed to point out is the relationship Wade has with Bum. They are very close, and I think that wade knows he is very limited on the amount of time remaining to spend with his dad. He has it made here, and gets to spend time with his dad. He will stay!They were just as close when Wade accepted an interview in Florida last off season.

badboy
10-31-2012, 10:00 AM
Who pissed in your cheerios?

Amazing80 post #10.

steelbtexan
10-31-2012, 10:34 AM
No, it's not "only football". I root for groups I can be proud of. I can't be proud of people I don't like.

It's about branding. It's about conducting your organization in a proper, respectable, orderly, classy fashion.

Rex Ryan is the antithesis of "Houston Texans", and the antithesis of all the reasons I love this football team.

It should be about winning and only winning. That's why they keep score.

Unfortunately to many fans care about all of the periphreal stuff and the Texans org felt no pressure to put the best product possible on the field for a DECADE. However they did make alot of $$$$.

When the fans started turning on the franchise/Gary, BoB magically found the $$$$ to sign Wade to a big contract and bring in Manning and Joseph on huge deals as well. All of the sudden the Texans went from also rans to SB contenders. Funny how that works.

What are the reasons you love this team? Are they your moral compass? It's just entertainment. A winning team is much more entertaining to me and I personally dont care what Coaches/players do in their PRIVATE lives. As long as they win on Sundays.

Speaking of this model organization, Do you think it's right that they allowed D.Davis to play on a bad knee, destroying his career? How about last yr when they cut AJ's hamstring loose so the could get him back on the field, probably costing him a spot in the HOF? Manning playing with a bone bruise that C-N-D said had a good chance of breaking if he was allowed to play and that's exactly what happened? (Dont mean to speak for you C-N-D.)

See the thing is the Texans aren't a lily white org. They just do a better job of hiding their skeletons than most teams.

steelbtexan
10-31-2012, 10:52 AM
Because Rex Ryan loves to talk? Sure, we all got tired of his act a few years ago but how much of that is his fault and how much of it is ESPN showcasing it because he's in New York. Fact is, he can coach defense. If it ever came to the point that he's looking for a job and the Texans have an opening because Wade left, then hell yes you take a look. I don't care so much about his attitude. It never seemed to be a problem in Baltimore.

Matrix puts persoalities before winning. That's what has been wrong with this franchise for a long time. IMHO

And no I dont care for Rex's personality. But that wouldn't stop me from hiring him. He's a great DC.

houstonspartan
10-31-2012, 11:03 AM
It should be about winning and only winning. That's why they keep score.

Unfortunately to many fans care about all of the periphreal stuff and the Texans org felt no pressure to put the best product possible on the field for a DECADE. However they did make alot of $$$$.

When the fans started turning on the franchise/Gary, BoB magically found the $$$$ to sign Wade to a big contract and bring in Manning and Joseph on huge deals as well. All of the sudden the Texans went from also rans to SB contenders. Funny how that works.

What are the reasons you love this team? Are they your moral compass? It's just entertainment. A winning team is much more entertaining to me and I personally dont care what Coaches/players do in their PRIVATE lives. As long as they win on Sundays.

Speaking of this model organization, Do you think it's right that they allowed D.Davis to play on a bad knee, destroying his career? How about last yr when they cut AJ's hamstring loose so the could get him back on the field, probably costing him a spot in the HOF? Manning playing with a bone bruise that C-N-D said had a good chance of breaking if he was allowed to play and that's exactly what happened? (Dont mean to speak for you C-N-D.)

See the thing is the Texans aren't a lily white org. They just do a better job of hiding their skeletons than most teams.

Very, very, very true, and good point. I brought up Brian Cushing and the embarrassing "overtrained athlete syndrome" in another thread, and people were acting as if it never happened.

We have our secrets just like every other team. We just hide them better, and get labeled a "classy" franchise.

The Pencil Neck
10-31-2012, 12:23 PM
I don't agree with the idea that Bob had no real desire to field a winning franchise and only ponied up the money for a name DC when the fans started to turn on the team and that threatened his revenue source. I think he's always tried to field a winning team and I don't think he's ever been cheap about it. I think, for the most part, he's hired people who were supposed to know what they were doing and then got out of the way and let them do it.

I think he's put down the ground rules, though. He wants a team built along the Steeler's template and that includes building primarily through the draft and being extremely patient with coaches. I believe he's put some stipulations in place that he wants a team composed of "high class" players but I don't think that means he'll say no to someone who has some history. He just doesn't want to become the Bengals -- going after high-talent, low-class guys who have high up-side but are also risky -- and he doesn't want to become the Redskins -- spending tons of cash on whatever high-priced free-agent is out there.

ObsiWan
10-31-2012, 01:06 PM
Eh. Rex Ryan, Romeo Crennel, and Ron Rivera could all be looking for work next year. I'd take any of them to replace Wade.

Ryan - No
Do NOT want the circus he'd bring to town.

Rivera - maybe
Decent-to-good track record as a coordinator, jury still out on the HC thing; not sure he wouldn't be sniffing after Kubiak's job

Crennel - yes
he's one of those "best-used-as-coordinator/not-to-be-a-head coach" guys IMHO.

ObsiWan
10-31-2012, 01:07 PM
Lots of shoe stores in Houston, Rex would like it here.

it ain't the shoes he's after
:D