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PandapuffTexan
10-26-2012, 09:22 PM
Was googling about JJ's draft day, and ran into a article that was quiet comical.

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsdetail/04-29-11-texans-will-rue-the-night-they-took-pizza-boy-watts-over-nick-fairley-houston-lover/

Boy some people were so quick to write him off

Allstar
10-26-2012, 09:25 PM
Watt posted this same link on twitter not that long ago, he really used this as motivation. Good for him (and good for us!)

DRP
10-26-2012, 10:37 PM
It's awesome when the media has to eat their words, this guy was way off on everything he said in this article. It also sounded like he had a man crush on Fairley when he was writing this trash

Thorn
10-26-2012, 11:25 PM
There is also this gem in the article.

He's more along the lines of the Texans' reclamation running back Arian Foster on the difficulty scale. And how's that turned out for Smith and Kubiak?

TejasTom
10-27-2012, 12:04 AM
You couldn't script a more perfect landing. And the Texans' now three-headed brain trust punted.

Something you still can't expect to see opposing offenses doing too much of in Reliant Stadium this fall. Not without Fairley, not without the star who was sent back to the sky.


Chris Baldwin unwittingly got this part right. Not much punting going on because tipped balls and forced fumbles become turn overs.

Showtime100
10-27-2012, 12:23 AM
The Texans are giving me something I never felt as a professional sports fan in my life. Trust in ownership. I'm not crazy about Kubiak and never will be, but I trust the Texans front office. How cool is that??

PandapuffTexan
10-27-2012, 12:40 AM
The Texans are giving me something I never felt as a professional sports fan in my life. Trust in ownership. I'm not crazy about Kubiak and never will be, but I trust the Texans front office. How cool is that??

Sometimes iii dobut kubiak but when it comes to draft picks overall weve done very well, our 2012 draft pick was odd figuring we lack depth at WR. but mercilus the few plays ive seen him seems to be very good. I hope Next years draft brings us antoher jewel but way season is turning out i dont see us getting first pick. Our frotn office actually cares about the team cant be said for alot of teams out there.. (cowgirls)

paycheck71
10-27-2012, 12:45 AM
Some info on the Texans last 4 drafts. Not bad, especially compared to some of the other teams.

http://www.drafttek.com/ConsolidatedNFLDraft2012-SWT.asp?RequestTeam=Houston#.UItmpm_A8WM

Malloy
10-27-2012, 05:22 AM
There is also this gem in the article.

haah, 'ups' :)

Insideop
10-27-2012, 06:16 AM
I don't think this Chris Baldwin was the only one who didn't like the pick. I remember hearing a lot of boos from the crowd at the draft party at Reliant when Watt's name was announced. I trust Smith, Kubes, and Wade to make a better draft selection for their system than any yahoo sportswriter or average football fan out there. I might scratch my head sometimes at their pick and say what the heck are they doing, but I've learned to trust their judgement.

b0ng
10-27-2012, 10:17 AM
I don't think this Chris Baldwin was the only one who didn't like the pick. I remember hearing a lot of boos from the crowd at the draft party at Reliant when Watt's name was announced. I trust Smith, Kubes, and Wade to make a better draft selection for their system than any yahoo sportswriter or average football fan out there. I might scratch my head sometimes at their pick and say what the heck are they doing, but I've learned to trust their judgement.

I was at that same draft party and you are correct about the boos. Amukamara and Fairley were the two guys the crowd wanted.

Titans Sux 72
10-27-2012, 10:25 AM
I don't think this Chris Baldwin was the only one who didn't like the pick. I remember hearing a lot of boos from the crowd at the draft party at Reliant when Watt's name was announced. I trust Smith, Kubes, and Wade to make a better draft selection for their system than any yahoo sportswriter or average football fan out there. I might scratch my head sometimes at their pick and say what the heck are they doing, but I've learned to trust their judgement.



This^^^^^^^

I wanted Fairley but when the pick was made I trusted the FO. I was not mad just curious. Now I know why I cut trees for a living and they evaluate football talent for a living. And recently they've been doing a good job at it.

Hooston Texan
10-27-2012, 10:41 AM
The interesting thing about the first round picks in the Kubiak era is that the ones that were most heavily criticized were the ones that have worked out the best.

2006: Mario over Bush and VY. I don't think there's ever been more criticism for a #1 overall pick in the history of the league. Mario worked out well enough to snag a $100,000,000 contract.

2007: Amobi Okoye. Not that much criticism at the time, though there are legions of folks who later claimed they were for drafting Patrick Willis all along. General consensus was that nobody thought he'd be there for the Texans' pick.

2008: Duane Brown. Widely seen as an unwarranted reach, but he's now one of the premier players at a premium position.

2009: Brian Cushing. "I hate this pick with the fire of a thousand suns" or something like that was the general feeling.

2010: Kareem Jackson. Some thought he was a reach, but the criticism was pretty mild. Like Brown, he took some time to develop, though it is too soon to tell if he's really turned the corner the way Brown did a couple years ago.

2011: Watt. We know that deal.

Too soon to tell on Mercilus, but I really like how he's being worked into the rotation recently.

If any fan base should trust its folks on draft day (at least in Round 1), it should be ours.

Grams
10-27-2012, 10:58 AM
Still, they couldn't bring themselves to take a chance with the 11th pick in the draft. Instead of going big, instead of grabbing the best defensive player in the draft (a guy who Mel Kiper was touting as the No. 1 overall pick not long ago), the Texans played it safe and went with the pizza boy


Watt is a great story. But it's hard to imagine him ever being a star. It's hard to see him changing games for Houston on defense
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I like these quotes. Wonder what he thinks now?

powda
10-27-2012, 11:43 AM
The interesting thing about the first round picks in the Kubiak era is that the ones that were most heavily criticized were the ones that have worked out the best.

2006: Mario over Bush and VY. I don't think there's ever been more criticism for a #1 overall pick in the history of the league. Mario worked out well enough to snag a $100,000,000 contract.

2007: Amobi Okoye. Not that much criticism at the time, though there are legions of folks who later claimed they were for drafting Patrick Willis all along. General consensus was that nobody thought he'd be there for the Texans' pick.

2008: Duane Brown. Widely seen as an unwarranted reach, but he's now one of the premier players at a premium position.

2009: Brian Cushing. "I hate this pick with the fire of a thousand suns" or something like that was the general feeling.

2010: Kareem Jackson. Some thought he was a reach, but the criticism was pretty mild. Like Brown, he took some time to develop, though it is too soon to tell if he's really turned the corner the way Brown did a couple years ago.

2011: Watt. We know that deal.

Too soon to tell on Mercilus, but I really like how he's being worked into the rotation recently.

If any fan base should trust its folks on draft day (at least in Round 1), it should be ours.

Good post. Ive been surprised by most of these picks, but not upset about all of them. I was really wrong about Cushing and Okoye (i liked him) it's starting to look like I was wrong about Kareem as well. I wanted Kyle Wilson.

I remember reading a lot of scouting reports about Watt and liking him. At the time, Mario was assumed to be a defensive end in Wade's scheme. I dismissed him as a draft possibility. When we picked him I felt like he was a safe selection and not the "sexy pick" to impress fans.

Our recent draft history has been so much better then the snake oil Casserly used to sale and i'm grateful.

paycheck71
10-27-2012, 12:53 PM
a guy who Mel Kiper was touting as the No. 1 overall pick not long ago


That's why Mel Kiper is doing the draft for espn, and not for an NFL team.

PandapuffTexan
10-27-2012, 01:10 PM
This^^^^^^^

I wanted Fairley but when the pick was made I trusted the FO. I was not mad just curious. Now I know why I cut trees for a living and they evaluate football talent for a living. And recently they've been doing a good job at it.

where you work? I to cut trees, Im ISA certfied and working toward aborist license.

stingray
10-27-2012, 01:11 PM
The interesting thing about the first round picks in the Kubiak era is that the ones that were most heavily criticized were the ones that have worked out the best.

2006: Mario over Bush and VY. I don't think there's ever been more criticism for a #1 overall pick in the history of the league. Mario worked out well enough to snag a $100,000,000 contract.

2007: Amobi Okoye. Not that much criticism at the time, though there are legions of folks who later claimed they were for drafting Patrick Willis all along. General consensus was that nobody thought he'd be there for the Texans' pick.

2008: Duane Brown. Widely seen as an unwarranted reach, but he's now one of the premier players at a premium position.

2009: Brian Cushing. "I hate this pick with the fire of a thousand suns" or something like that was the general feeling.

2010: Kareem Jackson. Some thought he was a reach, but the criticism was pretty mild. Like Brown, he took some time to develop, though it is too soon to tell if he's really turned the corner the way Brown did a couple years ago.

2011: Watt. We know that deal.

Too soon to tell on Mercilus, but I really like how he's being worked into the rotation recently.

If any fan base should trust its folks on draft day (at least in Round 1), it should be ours.

Not bad first round picks at all. I give it an A-. The - being Amobi.

houstonspartan
10-27-2012, 01:28 PM
In all fairness, did anyone like the JJ Watt pick? I know I wasn't all that impressed. Was anyone?


It was Wade's first pick as DC, and it was the first round, and we all expected a big splash. We didn't get one, and very few people were impressed, including myself.

Clearly, we were all wrong.

stingray
10-27-2012, 01:34 PM
In all fairness, did anyone like the JJ Watt pick? I know I wasn't all that impressed. Was anyone?


It was Wade's first pick as DC, and it was the first round, and we all expected a big splash. We didn't get one, and very few people were impressed, including myself.

Clearly, we were all wrong.

I liked it. He was my second choice. I wanted Robert Quinn as my first choice, who is also tearing it up this year with the Rams.

76Texan
10-27-2012, 03:48 PM
In all fairness, did anyone like the JJ Watt pick? I know I wasn't all that impressed. Was anyone?


It was Wade's first pick as DC, and it was the first round, and we all expected a big splash. We didn't get one, and very few people were impressed, including myself.

Clearly, we were all wrong.

My records on the Texans draft picks are pretty pretty good. http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/images/icons/icon7.gif

Lurvinator11
10-27-2012, 03:58 PM
I remember reading a lot of scouting reports about Watt and liking him. At the time, Mario was assumed to be a defensive end in Wade's scheme. I dismissed him as a draft possibility. When we picked him I felt like he was a safe selection and not the "sexy pick" to impress fans.

I remember wanting Fairly as well. When they took Watt, at first my reaction was who? but luckily I was lurking TT by that time and I really liked the pick by the end of the night. I like the high motor in him, and I am glad he worked out the way he did. I remember when I got home, my dad said he was "the worst pick in Texans history" I love it when my dad is wrong. haha.

Anyway, when he was drafted, I actually thought they were Smith was going to be the odd man out. I'm glad I was wrong about that one!

SteveSlaton20
10-27-2012, 05:51 PM
The interesting thing about the first round picks in the Kubiak era is that the ones that were most heavily criticized were the ones that have worked out the best.

2006: Mario over Bush and VY. I don't think there's ever been more criticism for a #1 overall pick in the history of the league. Mario worked out well enough to snag a $100,000,000 contract.

2007: Amobi Okoye. Not that much criticism at the time, though there are legions of folks who later claimed they were for drafting Patrick Willis all along. General consensus was that nobody thought he'd be there for the Texans' pick.

2008: Duane Brown. Widely seen as an unwarranted reach, but he's now one of the premier players at a premium position.

2009: Brian Cushing. "I hate this pick with the fire of a thousand suns" or something like that was the general feeling.

2010: Kareem Jackson. Some thought he was a reach, but the criticism was pretty mild. Like Brown, he took some time to develop, though it is too soon to tell if he's really turned the corner the way Brown did a couple years ago.

2011: Watt. We know that deal.

Too soon to tell on Mercilus, but I really like how he's being worked into the rotation recently.

If any fan base should trust its folks on draft day (at least in Round 1), it should be ours.

I didn't hate the Cushing pick at all. In fact, most of us wanted a LBer, but I think we wanted Matthews, not Cushing. But I didn't hate the pick.

I did hate the Watt pick at the time because I thought Fairley would be better.

b0ng
10-27-2012, 06:28 PM
In all fairness, did anyone like the JJ Watt pick? I know I wasn't all that impressed. Was anyone?


It was Wade's first pick as DC, and it was the first round, and we all expected a big splash. We didn't get one, and very few people were impressed, including myself.

Clearly, we were all wrong.

I was ambivalent at the time, I was actually hoping for Aldon Smith but the 9ers scooped him up first. I figured if Watt started his rookie it was probably a sign of our defense being in dire straits, not because of actual talent. I was definitely wrong on that part.

Scooter
10-27-2012, 07:31 PM
I didn't hate the Cushing pick at all. In fact, most of us wanted a LBer, but I think we wanted Matthews, not Cushing. But I didn't hate the pick.

I did hate the Watt pick at the time because I thought Fairley would be better.

that's how i remember it as well, most wanted a USC linebacker - preferring matthews and then cushing.

Allstar
10-27-2012, 07:34 PM
I remember us worrying that Cushing was just the next overrated LB that comes out every year. A lot of us were intrigued by Matthews' potential, despite having so little experience, but I do seem to recall some people getting worried we'd reach on him just because Bruce Matthews was on the staff. What a great couple of options we all argued about :)

76Texan
10-27-2012, 07:50 PM
I remember us worrying that Cushing was just the next overrated LB that comes out every year. A lot of us were intrigued by Matthews' potential, despite having so little experience, but I do seem to recall some people getting worried we'd reach on him just because Bruce Matthews was on the staff. What a great couple of options we all argued about :)

I distinctly remember more than one person asked me in the draft section, and I said I would take either one of them (they each had their own flavor).

There was one guy that I considered and it was Alex Mack.
His tapes looked really good and he was killing all the competition that entered the draft.

I was a great supporter of Myers, but I also think that with Mack, he can move back to guard where he also played very well when he was with the Broncos.