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speedfreek
10-25-2012, 08:43 PM
As I once was. They are being handled by a very pedestrian Tampa team..

TJ

TheDream34
10-25-2012, 08:58 PM
The only way we lose to them is if we have the AFC locked up already and we bench out starters. And that is very possible considering how weak the AFC is.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2012, 09:33 PM
Peterson is missing a lot of blocks in pass pro. He's practically cost his team several plays.

Is he normally this bad at it?

NastyNate
10-25-2012, 10:22 PM
It's just one game, sometimes teams show up flat (Green Bay anyone?).

Allstar
10-25-2012, 10:25 PM
Speaking of sitting our starters, if we end up resting against Indy at the end, it'd sure be a nice consolation prize to screw them over a few draft slots if we have to lose to them.

Hardcore Texan
10-25-2012, 10:29 PM
It's just one game, sometimes teams show up flat (Green Bay anyone?).

Yep

ItsMyFault
10-25-2012, 10:37 PM
I thought they were pretty overrated, especially defensively. I think if there's anything consistent about them, it's probably their pass rush. Ponder isn't very good. AP is AP, a beast. Harvin is also a beast, but they don't have any other weapons outside of those two on offense. This game being week 16, I don't even think it'll matter the way the AFC is going right now. Hope it doesn't so we can rest our starters for this game.

PandapuffTexan
10-25-2012, 10:40 PM
The only way we lose to them is if we have the AFC locked up already and we bench out starters. And that is very possible considering how weak the AFC is.

If the goal is first seed, depending how afc goes..we may need to play starters and win all the way to end to lock up first seed.playing the afc chapionship game at home is a good advantage..

Dutchrudder
10-25-2012, 10:44 PM
People were worried about our week 16 opponent??? lolz...

MEGA SWATT
10-25-2012, 11:00 PM
I was hoping they would make a game of it, but all I got was 1 great TD run from AP, and that was it as far as come backs.

Vinny
10-25-2012, 11:05 PM
Vikings are on the rise..but not a complete team yet. I'm thinking that they won't be a pushover at the end of the year. We are probably playing for homefield advantage so we will have something to play for most likely.

Hookem Horns
10-25-2012, 11:32 PM
As I once was. They are being handled by a very pedestrian Tampa team..

TJ

Don't undersell the Bucs. They could even beat the Texans on a good day. They are a young team finding their way who could just as easily be 6-1 right now. Heck maybe even 7-0, I can't think of a game they were blown out and had no shot of winning.

Let me review their losses (because I now live in Florida and have watched all of their games) ...

Giants (they were up big in that game and should have won that. As a real young team they just choked up and let the SB Champs come back. It took a monster effort in the 2nd half by Eli to pull this off.)

Cowboys (they had no business losing that game. They dominated the Cowboys for most of that game however Schiano was handcuffing Freeman. If they had an resemblance of an offense they would have blown out the Cowboys like they did the Vikes tonight.)

Redskins (I was at that game. They should have won this one too. However miscues led the them to giving the Redskins a chance and the Skins win it on a last second FG.)

Saints (Another game where they had a huge lead. Just like the Giants they let the Saints back in the game. This time they miraculously tie the game in the closing seconds ... but wait there is some stupid NFL rule where a defender can throw a WR out of bounds and eliminate him from the play ... so a penalty is called and the Bucs lose)

That's their 4 losses. So don't think the Vikes got thrashed by a horrible team tonight. The Vikes can still beat the Texans if the chips fall into the right places.

PandapuffTexan
10-26-2012, 12:16 AM
Don't undersell the Bucs. They could even beat the Texans on a good day. They are a young team finding their way who could just as easily be 6-1 right now. Heck maybe even 7-0, I can't think of a game they were blown out and had no shot of winning.

Let me review their losses (because I now live in Florida and have watched all of their games) ...

Giants (they were up big in that game and should have won that. As a real young team they just choked up and let the SB Champs come back. It took a monster effort in the 2nd half by Eli to pull this off.)

Cowboys (they had no business losing that game. They dominated the Cowboys for most of that game however Schiano was handcuffing Freeman. If they had an resemblance of an offense they would have blown out the Cowboys like they did the Vikes tonight.)

Redskins (I was at that game. They should have won this one too. However miscues led the them to giving the Redskins a chance and the Skins win it on a last second FG.)

Saints (Another game where they had a huge lead. Just like the Giants they let the Saints back in the game. This time they miraculously tie the game in the closing seconds ... but wait there is some stupid NFL rule where a defender can throw a WR out of bounds and eliminate him from the play ... so a penalty is called and the Bucs lose)

That's their 4 losses. So don't think the Vikes got thrashed by a horrible team tonight. The Vikes can still beat the Texans if the chips fall into the right places.

guess last year wasnt a good game for them if i recall we beat the bucks by 28 points

Norg
10-26-2012, 04:18 AM
hopefully we have eveything locked up by wk 15 and we can treat are last two games like pre season games

TheIronDuke
10-26-2012, 07:22 AM
My only concern with them is Jared Allen being a dirty SOB trying to put a kill hit on Schaub, same thing with Suh in Detroit. Hopefully we have the home field locked down by the Minnesota game and we can let Yates go then.

speedfreek
10-26-2012, 07:57 AM
Yep, I remember that. Hopefully JJ can have a chat with him before the game, so that everyone sees eye-to-eye :bat:

TJ

My only concern with them is Jared Allen being a dirty SOB trying to put a kill hit on Schaub, same thing with Suh in Detroit. Hopefully we have the home field locked down by the Minnesota game and we can let Yates go then.

Hookem Horns
10-26-2012, 09:00 AM
guess last year wasnt a good game for them if i recall we beat the bucks by 28 points

The Bucs quit on their coach last season. IIRC the Falcons were up by over 40 points by halftime last season. The Jags beat them by more than 30 points I think.

They are a different team this season. Look, I am not trying to say the Bucs are as good as the Texans. In context of the OP, I am just saying they are not some doormat that the Vikings got rolled by last night. My end point being that game doesn't prove the Vikings are horrible because they got bounced by the Bucs.

However as someone else mentioned the Vikings game is weeks away and anything could happen before then.

IDEXAN
10-26-2012, 09:03 AM
You can't base what the Vikings performance will be here in Reliant in a few
weeks on what they did in last nights game.

BigWig
10-26-2012, 10:04 AM
And don't forget our only loss is against an NFC team, look at the stats for the AFC, they are not looking good against NFC, hence the parity over there also. I would be very cautious about getting too confident about the Vikes and esp the Bears, besides that we need to worry the most about NE.

thunderkyss
10-26-2012, 10:06 AM
As I once was. They are being handled by a very pedestrian Tampa team..

TJ

I think someone said something similar about the Packers & the Colts.

I'm going off memory here, so I could be wrong.

GP
10-26-2012, 10:32 AM
Green Bay game taught me to never expect a win based on any team's performance. We're not perfect, we can't blindfold ourselves and whistle while we work and expect to win each game.

News flash: All teams have pride, and when cornered they will out-fight you for the win if you don't fight back.

b0ng
10-26-2012, 11:14 AM
I see it's time for me to bust out the Christian Ponder files:

http://i.imgur.com/6rIuq.gif
http://i.imgur.com/XgTcD.gif


Here is a graph through like week 5 or 6 that shows his completion percentage matched up against how far he has to throw the ball:
http://i.imgur.com/VGCAN.png

Here are three passes he threw back to back to back against Tennessee:

http://i.imgur.com/v0SIl.gif
http://i.imgur.com/xBUAB.gif
http://i.imgur.com/Nvnpf.gif


Basically Minnesota has some good offensive pieces (Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, and Kalil) and their defense has been playing way over expectation (And they just lost a CB to a broken ankle sooooooooo). This is not Aaron Rodgers we're talking about whipping our asses, it's Christian Ponder. You're perfectly fine selling him very short in my opinion.

b0ng
10-26-2012, 11:15 AM
One more before I go:

http://i.imgur.com/CdRb1.gif

I don't see you guys worrying about Blaine Gabbert as much as this dude, and for all intents and purposes I think Gabbert can at least throw a ball 20+ yards out and it not be a trainwreck.

b0ng
12-18-2012, 03:01 PM
An Aerial Assault by Christian Ponder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG6dfeYSrXM)

Perki-Perk
12-18-2012, 03:11 PM
I see it's time for me to bust out the Christian Ponder files:

http://i.imgur.com/6rIuq.gif
http://i.imgur.com/XgTcD.gif


Here is a graph through like week 5 or 6 that shows his completion percentage matched up against how far he has to throw the ball:
http://i.imgur.com/VGCAN.png

Here are three passes he threw back to back to back against Tennessee:

http://i.imgur.com/v0SIl.gif
http://i.imgur.com/xBUAB.gif

32 on the Titans is part of their culture that has them losing. I love it! "Hey, you could have caught that and got some yardage, but instead, I'm going to tip it to myself for no gain! woohoo!" F the Traitors!

http://i.imgur.com/Nvnpf.gif


Basically Minnesota has some good offensive pieces (Peterson, Harvin, Rudolph, and Kalil) and their defense has been playing way over expectation (And they just lost a CB to a broken ankle sooooooooo). This is not Aaron Rodgers we're talking about whipping our asses, it's Christian Ponder. You're perfectly fine selling him very short in my opinion.

I hate the Tennessee Tacs!!!

76Texan
12-18-2012, 03:35 PM
An Aerial Assault by Christian Ponder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JG6dfeYSrXM)

That was brutal, LOL.

b0ng
12-18-2012, 03:39 PM
That was brutal, LOL.

He makes worse decisions on the run than OJ Simpson.

rush2112mn
12-18-2012, 11:57 PM
Any given Sunday......you better worry.....things can change....Adrian Peterson could break open a big one.....not saying he will...but could happen....hell anything can happen in NFL....so saying your not worried.....I would not say that ever.....you better think twice before you say that.

:toropalm:

srrono
12-19-2012, 08:26 AM
With our LB play we all should be worried Peterson could run for 300yds.

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Re-watching Texans/Colts and @sonofbum was slanting DTs and replacing in the gap with ILBs, but the ILBs didn't do their job vs. the run

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
Far too often Dobbins and James either didn't square up the lead blocker or simply took poor angles. Bradie James playing WAY TOO HIGH

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
It's not even debatable. Really poor lately RT @ericdkennedy: @LanceZierlein LZ, I'm convinced ILB is the weak point in the D this season

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
And while D. Manning was better with his tackling, his instincts were suspect on a couple of plays once again which we didn't see in '11

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
@PHABMK6 I know. There is no way that Wade is watching that tape and thinking to himself, "Bradie is doing just fine." It's not possible

Lance Zierlein ‏@LanceZierlein
@HoustonDiehards the LB play was pathetic this game. Nobody plays downhill, nobody attacks blockers and nobody plays with instincts

thunderkyss
12-19-2012, 08:31 AM
I'd like for the defense to have a stellar game. However, the only important thing to me is that we get the win. I don't care if Adrian runs for 700 yards. As long as we get the W

76Texan
12-19-2012, 09:00 AM
There's nothing new here.
We've already know about our ILBs.
As long we maintain our gap responsibility, take good angle in pursuit, and play as a team, Peterson can have his 200 yards and we will still win.

The Vikings, on the other hand, have to worry about our offense.
We should take a lead by halftime, and eventually, the Peterson's effect will be lessen. We will control the clock and we will win.

I hope my prognosis comes true so that everybody can enjoy a nice Christmas Holliday.

:fans::snowday:

CloakNNNdagger
12-19-2012, 11:09 AM
Robison, the Vikings miniversion of our JJ Watt, very likely will not be play Sunday.......and if he does, I would not expect him to be very effective. He left with a significant shoulder injury last game. That was after already logging a sack to add to his already 6.5 total. Robison's presence has opened the game up for Allen and Williams to reach the QB.

Even if Robison doesn't play, Griffen, who has thus far been used as a 3rd down pass rush specialist, will replace him. After Robison's injury, Griffen came in and ended up with one tackle, one pass deflection, one quarterback hit, several pressures, and a big interception for a TD return. Our O had better game plan not only to keep moving the ball forward, but just as importantly, to protect Schaub from getting too familiar with the topography of the Reliant grass or ceiling. :kitten:

DX-TEX
12-19-2012, 11:13 AM
For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/hennesmirk.gif

For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.

BullNation4Life
12-19-2012, 11:17 AM
For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/hennesmirk.gif

For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.

Chad Henne is actually a better QB than people give him credit for and is beyond better than Ponder....

12-2 people, let go of the past and focus on the future, HFA through out the playoffs...

ChampionTexan
12-19-2012, 11:30 AM
Given that running the ball is about all the Vikings can do, this could very well be a low scoring game. While controlling Peterson is important, the fact is he can have a monster game and not necessarily have it translate to the scoreboard (His 210 yard game against the Packers was in a 23-14 Viking loss).

With all the rushing I expect in this game, it could be a very short game with a relatively small number of possesions for each team. Because of that, I think the Texans red zone efficiency is going to play a critical part in this game. An offensive ratio of one TD to five field goals like we had in the Indy game likely won't be good enough.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 11:33 AM
Chad Henne is actually a better QB than people give him credit for and is beyond better than Ponder....

12-2 people, let go of the past and focus on the future, HFA through out the playoffs...

^^^ This!

Also, remember that against Henne, we had mis-tackles, guys bumping into each other, guys playing with poor techniques, bad coverage, etc.

It wasn't like Henne was playing great.

Our secondary needs to play as they are capable of, or at least, they need to avoid too many unforced errors.

ChampionTexan
12-19-2012, 11:35 AM
^^^ This!

Also, remember that against Henne, we had mis-tackles, guys bumping into each other, guys playing with poor techniques, bad coverage, etc.

It wasn't like Henne was playing great.

Yeah, I think that's kind of the point.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 11:35 AM
Given that running the ball is about all the Vikings can do, this could very well be a low scoring game. While controlling Peterson is important, the fact is he can have a monster game and not necessarily have it translate to the scoreboard (His 210 yard game against the Packers was in a 23-14 Viking loss).

With all the rushing I expect in this game, it could be a very short game with a relatively small number of possesions for each team. Because of that, I think the Texans red zone efficiency is going to play a critical part in this game. An offensive ratio of one TD to five field goals like we had in the Indy game likely won't be good enough.

If we have 6 drives that consume 7 minutes each, we'll win for sure! :specnatz::koolaid:

76Texan
12-19-2012, 11:39 AM
Yeah, I think that's kind of the point.

Basically, if both teams bring their A game, we win.

We will probably still win with out B game against their A game, but we cannot afford to slip any more than that.

On the positive side, we should be able to force them into a B game or worse, then the advantage is all ours! :smiliedance:

Tailgate
12-19-2012, 11:42 AM
I think everyone should be worried about this game. The Vikings are very physical and are a winning football team fighting for their playoff lives. They beat the 49ers, Lions, Chicago, and gave Green Bay fits.

Quite honestly, we have only beaten 3 winning teams since October... Colts, Bears, Ravens. We have MAJOR concerns at LB right now.

This is a HUGE game, and they are going to need a lively crowd to help the cause.

Can't wait to get the part started, but I know this will hardly be a cakewalk.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 11:53 AM
I think everyone should be worried about this game. The Vikings are very physical and are a winning football team fighting for their playoff lives. They beat the 49ers, Lions, Chicago, and gave Green Bay fits.

Quite honestly, we have only beaten 3 winning teams since October... Colts, Bears, Ravens. We have MAJOR concerns at LB right now.

This is a HUGE game, and they are going to need a lively crowd to help the cause.

Can't wait to get the part started, but I know this will hardly be a cakewalk.

It ain't no fun if you walk all over the cake! :ahhaha:

Oz Texan
12-19-2012, 12:09 PM
I think everyone should be worried about this game. The Vikings are very physical and are a winning football team fighting for their playoff lives. They beat the 49ers, Lions, Chicago, and gave Green Bay fits.

Quite honestly, we have only beaten 3 winning teams since October... Colts, Bears, Ravens. We have MAJOR concerns at LB right now.

This is a HUGE game, and they are going to need a lively crowd to help the cause.

Can't wait to get the part started, but I know this will hardly be a cakewalk.

Concidering we have only played 4 winning teams since October that means we have won 3. Yes we have ILB concerns but its not the end of the world.
We can only play our schedule and 3-1 vs playoff teams since October is not so bad.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 12:19 PM
What happened to Barrett Rudd?

ChampionTexan
12-19-2012, 12:23 PM
I think everyone should be worried about this game. The Vikings are very physical and are a winning football team fighting for their playoff lives. They beat the 49ers, Lions, Chicago, and gave Green Bay fits.

Quite honestly, we have only beaten 3 winning teams since October... Colts, Bears, Ravens. We have MAJOR concerns at LB right now.

This is a HUGE game, and they are going to need a lively crowd to help the cause.

Can't wait to get the part started, but I know this will hardly be a cakewalk.

Well, Minnesota's only beaten one winning team since October, and they also only beat one winning team prior to that. They've only got two victories over winning teams all season, and one of those was against Chicago, who they've also lost to (28-10 in early November).

Yeah, every NFL game is a concern, and Minnesota may be a slightly above average team (although not on the road), but this isn't about them. This is about the Texans, and if they play the way they should and they can, then it will be a comfortable victory. It's not about the opponent, it's all about the Texans.

GP
12-19-2012, 12:28 PM
Yeah, my problem is that the vast majority of animated gifs are in one game: Vs. the Titans.

Let's take a look at some animated gifs of Schaub vs. the Packers and the Patriots. I bet he looks equally unimpressive.

And the graph shown? Through week 5 or 6, which was right around the time of the Titans game...right?

So it's possible that even though Ponder isn't Superman in football cleats...he just might have settled down a bit. It's possible, btw, that they ALL figured out they just hand it off to Adrian Peterson and let him get 200+ yards and multiple TDs every game.

This game is not a gimmee game. We can lose this game. It's definitely possible. Likely? No. Possible? Yes.

As 76 has said: Our guys have shown the ability to look lost and out of sync, which is what happened vs. the Jags. And to the Lions, too, I might add. Both those games were OT victories that if we're being honest here...our two opponents had their chances to seal off a win and we were veteran enough to withstand the onslaught from them.

Tailgate
12-19-2012, 12:29 PM
Concidering we have only played 4 winning teams since October that means we have won 3. Yes we have ILB concerns but its not the end of the world.
We can only play our schedule and 3-1 vs playoff teams since October is not so bad.

Is Mercilus not a concern?

* Teams know that they can run the ball effectively towards Antonio Smith and Whitney Mercilusí side as long as the LBs are playing the way they are.* Smith is a true 1-gapper who is always fighting to get up the field but it is sometimes at the expense of his own awareness of where the ball carrier is.* Mercilus is just not aggressive in setting the edge against the run and teams are definitely noticing.* Adrian Peterson will definitely test their chins this week.


http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/12/re-watching-texanscolts-the-running-game-gets-it-going-but-linebacker-play-is-a-major-concern/

GP
12-19-2012, 12:30 PM
Let us also not forget that the Vikings have a legitimate, bonafide Schaub Injury Creator named Jared Allen who is as dirty as Suh is.

That guy will be looking to hurt Schaub, 100%.

Which only amplifies the pucker factor, IMO.

Get this last win, stay injury free, and we've nabbed HFA and can let Yates and Grimes and the 3rd string gang get some reps in Indy.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 12:38 PM
Yeah, my problem is that the vast majority of animated gifs are in one game: Vs. the Titans.

Let's take a look at some animated gifs of Schaub vs. the Packers and the Patriots. I bet he looks equally unimpressive.

And the graph shown? Through week 5 or 6, which was right around the time of the Titans game...right?

So it's possible that even though Ponder isn't Superman in football cleats...he just might have settled down a bit. It's possible, btw, that they ALL figured out they just hand it off to Adrian Peterson and let him get 200+ yards and multiple TDs every game.

This game is not a gimmee game. We can lose this game. It's definitely possible. Likely? No. Possible? Yes.

As 76 has said: Our guys have shown the ability to look lost and out of sync, which is what happened vs. the Jags. And to the Lions, too, I might add. Both those games were OT victories that if we're being honest here...our two opponents had their chances to seal off a win and we were veteran enough to withstand the onslaught from them.

I wouldn't call "looking lost" an ability (J/k).

Other than that, this game should be all about the Texans.
They say they are hungry, let them show us that they really are.

I want to see them fight.
Nothing is given in this league; you ought to go take it.

Trail.Blazr
12-19-2012, 12:46 PM
Let us also not forget that the Vikings have a legitimate, bonafide Schaub Injury Creator named Jared Allen who is as dirty as Suh is.

That guy will be looking to hurt Schaub, 100%.

Which only amplifies the pucker factor, IMO.

Get this last win, stay injury free, and we've nabbed HFA and can let Yates and Grimes and the 3rd string gang get some reps in Indy.

I agree with the Jared Allen concern. I will be BESIDE myself if something happens to Schaub! Someone please chop block that basterd right out of the game on play#1!

76Texan
12-19-2012, 01:10 PM
Is Mercilus not a concern?




http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/12/re-watching-texanscolts-the-running-game-gets-it-going-but-linebacker-play-is-a-major-concern/

I'm not sure about Mercilus; I didn't concentrate on him, I don't think he is (at least not a major concern.)

I think Kubiak was OK with his performance.

But I think I will go back and look at him.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 01:16 PM
I'm not sure I agree with Lance Z.

It is quite possible that the game plan called for him to do certain things.
The same way Kubiak has been saying about Barwin doing his job.

IMO, it's all been about some guys holding the fort for another guy to make play.
If you keep looking for a certain guy to make play other than Watt, you would be dissapointed.

That's not how a defense works.

HOU-TEX
12-19-2012, 01:22 PM
Brooks Reed returned to practice and has a "good chance" to play Sunday. Per Kubiak presser.

DX-TEX
12-19-2012, 01:24 PM
Brooks Reed returned to practice and has a "good chance" to play Sunday. Per Kubiak presser.

I hope he studies the ILB position during his down time and get some snaps there. probably not but hoping.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 04:04 PM
All hands on deck, those who can.

Let's go boys; you have waited long enough!

thunderkyss
12-19-2012, 04:55 PM
For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:

For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.

But Brandon Harris wasn't playing then.

thunderkyss
12-19-2012, 05:00 PM
(His 210 yard game against the Packers was in a 23-14 Viking loss).

With all the rushing I expect in this game, it could be a very short game with a relatively small number of possesions for each team. Because of that, I think the Texans red zone efficiency is going to play a critical part in this game. An offensive ratio of one TD to five field goals like we had in the Indy game likely won't be good enough.

One TD (7) + Five Field Goals (15) = 22 points

Adrian Peterson 210 yards, 14 point game.... = 13 point

22 > 13


Unless my math is wrong, I think we still win.

thunderkyss
12-19-2012, 05:14 PM
I'm not sure I agree with Lance Z.

It is quite possible that the game plan called for him to do certain things.
The same way Kubiak has been saying about Barwin doing his job.

IMO, it's all been about some guys holding the fort for another guy to make play.
If you keep looking for a certain guy to make play other than Watt, you would be dissapointed.

That's not how a defense works.

That's the Koolaid talking. Nobody else designs a defense where one guy has the sole responsibility of making a play.

Indy has Mathis & Freeney, Minnesota has Allen, Williams, & Robison, Denver has Dumerville & Miller, Baltimore has Ngata & Suggs.

The fact that Jj Watt is the only Texan making plays is a problem.

DX-TEX
12-19-2012, 05:20 PM
But Brandon Harris wasn't playing then.

Not sure if serious....

Speedy
12-19-2012, 05:52 PM
For those of you dismissing Ponder. Never forget:

http://cdn.ksk.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/hennesmirk.gif

For one game Chad Henne was Dan Marino.

Dan Marino? I think not. Yeah, Henne had 354 yards in that game but 211 of it was on 3 completions. He was 13-30 (43%) for 143 yards the rest of the day. He was 1-9 for 15 yards in the OT period. Henne didn't even complete 50% of his passes for the game 16-33, 48%. Giving up the big play is what killed the Texans, not so much Henne.

76Texan
12-19-2012, 06:31 PM
That's the Koolaid talking. Nobody else designs a defense where one guy has the sole responsibility of making a play.

Indy has Mathis & Freeney, Minnesota has Allen, Williams, & Robison, Denver has Dumerville & Miller, Baltimore has Ngata & Suggs.

The fact that Jj Watt is the only Texan making plays is a problem.

I hate politicians!:choke:

ChampionTexan
12-19-2012, 06:58 PM
One TD (7) + Five Field Goals (15) = 22 points

Adrian Peterson 210 yards, 14 point game.... = 13 point

22 > 13


Unless my math is wrong, I think we still win.

I believe my post included the word ratio, and also referenced the realistic possibility we will not have as many possessions in the Minnesota game. (That means I don't expect us to have the opportunity to kick 5 field goals if the offense plays like it did against the Colts).

For example, two field goals and one TD would would be a big improvement over my 5 to 1 ratio, yet still would only get us a tie with your 13 points (which for the life of me I don't understand how you came up with as opposed to 14). This would necessitate overtime which would increase the chance of injury, and require additional physical and mental exertion on the part of our boys in Deep Steel Blue and that would be bad.

Any other questions?:kitten:

Texan_Bill
12-19-2012, 07:23 PM
Meh... I'm, "worried" about every game because well, you know, that whole "any given Sunday" thing. That said, I think that if the Texans can find a way to *ahem* sorta hold AD in check (meaning less than 200 yards rushing) the Texans should win. Ponder as a passer does not scare me at all.

Texan_Bill
12-19-2012, 07:25 PM
P.S. If Jared Allen takes out Schaub's knee I will have to be restrained from bum-rushing the field and taking out Jared Allen's knee.... :lion:

76Texan
12-20-2012, 02:36 PM
P.S. If Jared Allen takes out Schaub's knee I will have to be restrained from bum-rushing the field and taking out Jared Allen's knee.... :lion:

Just don't trip over the wall. :pop:

El Tejano
12-20-2012, 03:17 PM
Meh... I'm, "worried" about every game because well, you know, that whole "any given Sunday" thing. That said, I think that if the Texans can find a way to *ahem* sorta hold AD in check (meaning less than 200 yards rushing) the Texans should win. Ponder as a passer does not scare me at all.

Ponder as a play action running QB scares me though. We struggle against those mobile QBs.

76Texan
12-20-2012, 03:48 PM
Is Mercilus not a concern?




http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/12/re-watching-texanscolts-the-running-game-gets-it-going-but-linebacker-play-is-a-major-concern/

I'm not sure about Mercilus; I didn't concentrate on him, I don't think he is (at least not a major concern.)

I think Kubiak was OK with his performance.

But I think I will go back and look at him.

I'm not sure I agree with Lance Z.

It is quite possible that the game plan called for him to do certain things.
The same way Kubiak has been saying about Barwin doing his job.

IMO, it's all been about some guys holding the fort for another guy to make play.
If you keep looking for a certain guy to make play other than Watt, you would be dissapointed.

That's not how a defense works.

That's the Koolaid talking. Nobody else designs a defense where one guy has the sole responsibility of making a play.

Indy has Mathis & Freeney, Minnesota has Allen, Williams, & Robison, Denver has Dumerville & Miller, Baltimore has Ngata & Suggs.

The fact that Jj Watt is the only Texan making plays is a problem.



Wade wanted to make sure that our end man stay home to guard against the play action pass.

He (Mercilus or Barwin) needed to make sure not to buy the play fake.
They would not allow Luck to roll-out.
They made sure there's no reverse.
At times they need to bump the TE or the FB, not allowing a free relase.

Basically, they were asked to contain the edges, unless they dropped into coverage or the D-call was for them to pass rush.

Yeah, there were definitely game-planning for Luck there.

Rey
12-20-2012, 04:24 PM
I can't complain about Merciless right now. He looks better than Reed and Barwin combined.

OLB is a concern for me. They just haven't been good enough IMO. You have Watt playing the way he is, you should have the most dominant defensive front in the league hands down. Need other guys to step up to make that happen.

infantrycak
12-20-2012, 04:38 PM
The Texans are tied for 2nd in sacks 1 back of 1st place. Just sayin'

That is with a lot of teams taking a quick passing game approach.

Tailgate
12-23-2012, 02:36 PM
Is everyone on the same page now?

The Third Man
12-23-2012, 02:39 PM
Great thread.