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downtownsb
06-03-2005, 04:39 PM
Here is the article:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2075361

infantrycak
06-03-2005, 04:45 PM
From the article so you can get the gist without the link:

According to Williams, "a person of interest" means Taylor could be a subject, victim or witness of an alleged crime and that the police department was looking for him. He would not say whether there was an arrest warrant out for Taylor.

An NFL source tells ESPN's Chris Mortensen that the league has gotten a communication from the Dade County Police Department, which says there is a warrant out for Taylor's arrest in regards to an alleged assault with a weapon.

downtownsb
06-03-2005, 04:51 PM
sorry i diddnt know the rules on quotes and i was lazy. :)

infantrycak
06-03-2005, 05:05 PM
Not a rule, just you get more replies and some people are link averse so a tid-bit helps out. Welcome to the MB.

JustBonee
06-03-2005, 05:07 PM
And so many people around here wanted him so badly. Shows that you don't always get what you see.

TEXANS84
06-03-2005, 05:13 PM
This should help out with his contract negotiations.

ArlingtonTexan
06-03-2005, 05:44 PM
Okay, where are all those people who wanted to trade (more picks than for Babin) up for this guy...If he was in Washington concerning himself with playing he probably would not be in this bit of trouble.

WWJD
06-03-2005, 07:06 PM
I'm out of the loop or something.

Isn't he a fairly young player? Why would he be doing a contract this soon?

Too bad if he's in trouble. I don't wish that on anyone.

DRIFTAWAY
06-03-2005, 07:42 PM
i remember we held a fake live mock draft on this site, and i had control of the Redskins and traded away Sean Taylor. If i remember some people started throwing some cr*p my way and i just said that Taylor wouldnt work out in Washington. More proof i should be gm/coach or something.

texasguy346
06-03-2005, 08:08 PM
I'm out of the loop or something.

Isn't he a fairly young player? Why would he be doing a contract this soon?


He is a very young player, and he's played only one year under his rookie contract. Basically he's had a change of heart, and wants more money after the fact. He's definately a "rollercoaster" type of player, and I hope he'll start to settle down soon. I doubt it will happen though.

WWJD
06-03-2005, 10:08 PM
He is a very young player, and he's played only one year under his rookie contract. Basically he's had a change of heart, and wants more money after the fact. He's definately a "rollercoaster" type of player, and I hope he'll start to settle down soon. I doubt it will happen though.

Thanks for the info. Your post made me recollect an article I read recently..I didn't remember who it was about but now I realize it was about Sean. He's young and hopefully he's going to get his life straightened out and go play football the way he's capable. If not what a waste.

F-minus67
06-03-2005, 10:12 PM
:shocked .... I'll admit that I wanted the texans to trade up for him, but how could anyone know he was like this? If he gets convicted or stays on this track, next time ESPN makes one of those 25 biggest NFL draft busts he'll be in the top 10. So much talent, so little smarts.

Hervoyel
06-03-2005, 10:15 PM
This guy was giving off the creepy trouble vibe before he was drafted. Obviously there was something to that. It doesn't matter how much "talent" he has because he's nothing but trouble. By the end of his rookie contract nobody is going to care about Sean Taylor except Sean Taylor.

TexansCanes
06-03-2005, 10:17 PM
i will hold judgment until the whole story comes out because normally with athletes they report the worst case scenario. as of right know he is just a person of interest and it has yet to be seen if he did actually fire the shots, we only have second hand information about that. whether he is the victim, suspect, or witness will be found out soon enough, it doesn't help that it happened Wednesday and they haven't found him yet. i will continue to support the guy, but like with k2, it is getting harder. as for trading up for him, performance wise i still have no problem with it, but wouldn't trade d rob for st. as for the contract situation, the reason he wants a new deal is because he is upset with how his deal compares to the other players the drafted before and after him. he was the first to sign and his deal was the worst of the top 7 picks.

ledzeppelin229
06-04-2005, 01:19 AM
Okay, where are all those people who wanted to trade (more picks than for Babin) up for this guy...If he was in Washington concerning himself with playing he probably would not be in this bit of trouble.

Well, before everyone gets on the "I never wanted ST anyway" high horse, remember there was an extremely different perception about him as a person/player prior to the draft. I think you can ask anyone now that they'd rather have the draft fall like it did but that's easy to say over a year later.

I will admit I was suckered into the hype at the time but fortunately I think (hopefully) I'm one of those that learns his lesson the first time around.

swtbound07
06-04-2005, 02:44 AM
i was dang near president of the sean taylor fan club, and i still maintain that he could have been a beast here...obviously, things worked out for the best, and there is a reason ive never been given control of a non madden franchise, but maybe if he wasnt around a bunch of thugs he wouldnt...oh nevermind, screw it, i was wrong and i apologize

TexansNeedRBin05
06-04-2005, 06:06 AM
i was dang near president of the sean taylor fan club, and i still maintain that he could have been a beast here...obviously, things worked out for the best, and there is a reason ive never been given control of a non madden franchise, but maybe if he wasnt around a bunch of thugs he wouldnt...oh nevermind, screw it, i was wrong and i apologize

LOL!

Notice how all the Miami Guys in that draft didnt work out (Winslow Taylor etc.) Maybe there was something in the water or something? :confused:

Chrispy
06-04-2005, 07:21 AM
LOL!

Notice how all the Miami Guys in that draft didnt work out (Winslow Taylor etc.) Maybe there was something in the water or something? :confused:

Luckily not all Miami guys were drinking that water. AJ seems to have turned out real well.

cuppacoffee
06-04-2005, 08:50 AM
i remember we held a fake live mock draft on this site, and i had control of the Redskins and traded away Sean Taylor. If i remember some people started throwing some cr*p my way and i just said that Taylor wouldnt work out in Washington. More proof i should be gm/coach or something.

Our GM is doing just fine, however, the Astros probably could use some help.... :bomb:

Lucky
06-04-2005, 10:20 AM
If this is true, he could have killed anyone firing a gun into a home like that.
This guy needs a years suspension and some therapy. That's just flat out crazy. Taylor was a great college player, but he needs to get back in touch with reality.

done88
06-04-2005, 12:15 PM
"Police call Taylor 'person of interest' in investigation"

He is asking for more money. The police are looking for him. More trouble then he is worth. I do believe everyone me included wanted the Texans to try to get him. SHows what we know.

ArlingtonTexan
06-04-2005, 12:23 PM
This guy needs a years suspension and some therapy. That's just flat out crazy. Taylor was a great college player, but he needs to get back in touch with reality.

You mean Taylor wasn't just, "keepin it real"

Ibar_Harry
06-04-2005, 12:30 PM
"Police call Taylor 'person of interest' in investigation"

He is asking for more money. The police are looking for him. More trouble then he is worth. I do believe everyone me included wanted the Texans to try to get him. SHows what we know.

Yes, I saw this late last night and it doesn't sound real great. There have been a number of problems with High Profile players this preseason. Money and perceived Power has a lot to do with it. Unfortunately what makes the headlines are the few malcontents and the vast majority of players who are really good citizens doing what good people do never make the headlines. You see it in every community across the land and world.

dalemurphy
06-04-2005, 01:18 PM
How many of those complaining about the off-season moves this year were also screaming about trading up to get Sean Taylor or Kellen Winslow. Perhaps there is a lesson in that somewhere?

keyfro
06-04-2005, 03:47 PM
i'll be the first to admitt sean taylor was the number one guy that year i wanted the texans to draft...and i'll admitt that this young man has some serious issues...i'm glad now that we did not get him and that we drafted D-ROB instead...i really feel for taylor the kid has all the talent in the world he just needs to get his head on straight

Texas_Thrill
06-04-2005, 05:22 PM
I was one that wanted to trade up for Taylor. However I think we have to take into account here the ORGANIZATIONS for which these players come into. I mean let's face it.....washington is a run away circus.

Houston's organization if nothing else is structured and having AJ here would have helped him a lot IMO.

It saddens me to see someone judging this kid instead of wanting to make sure he gets the proper help.

And you know what I can't say that if someone else came and robbed most of us we wouldn't have the desire to do the same thing he did. Of course that's us that actually don't believe the police are here for much more than to harrass us on a daily basis.

WWJD
06-04-2005, 08:59 PM
You can't control what people do away from the field, away from the office...he would have done the same thing here. If you don't have the maturity or the smarts to not get involved in these things you are bound to make the same mistakes over and over irregardless of geography. It has nothing to do with him being a Redskin. It has everything to do with him being a troubled person.

Davis37
06-05-2005, 12:02 AM
thats just pathetic. you would think that with this guy making a boat load of money playing the best game on earth would find a way to stay out of trouble. oh, and Vinny, whats up havent seen you post lately. I might have just missed ur posts though cause i usually just check new posts.

tiger06
06-05-2005, 12:09 AM
Wow, this guy seems to be nothing but trouble since he got drafted

wags
06-05-2005, 12:41 AM
Maybe Taylor just idolizes Ray Lewis.

TexanBacker93
06-05-2005, 01:06 AM
So many people wanted the team to mortgage everything they had to trade up to get Sean Taylor. With the exceptional year Dunta had, I know everyone sees that Casserly and Co. knew what they were doing. With the latest off the field problems that Taylor has had I just want to say, thank you for avoiding that headache.

Grid
06-05-2005, 01:29 AM
yep.

I was a sean taylor supporter.. but I didnt want us to sell the farm to get him.


Somewhat off topic.. but this is the first year since our inception that I have not felt that our Rookies needed to come in and make a big impact in order for us to move forward.. thats a good sign of how far we have come, and how close we are to being competitive.

grandslam1
06-05-2005, 04:32 AM
skins fans are very angry at hailredskins. I'm also a skins fan and it sucks that you're future star first sits out at camp and then does something like this...

rittenhouserobz
06-05-2005, 06:42 AM
It is amazing to me that ST can ask for a new contract one year into the contract.

Lucky
06-05-2005, 07:59 AM
...With the exceptional year Dunta had, I know everyone sees that Casserly and Co. knew what they were doing. With the latest off the field problems that Taylor has had I just want to say, thank you for avoiding that headache.
There were reliable reports (Lance of 610 AM) that Casserly did attempt to trade up for Taylor on draft day. Had the Giants not made the deal with the Chargers for Manning, they may have moved back to #10 and taken Roethlisberger & the Texans would have taken Taylor at #4. So really, enough with the "for those that wanted Taylor posts". The Pats & about 20+ other teams wanted Taylor, as well. The Skins got him. And unless you're Miss Cleo, you didn't know the guy was going postal once he turned pro. Let's just say the Texans were one of the 31 fortunate teams that didn't select Taylor.

wags
06-05-2005, 10:59 AM
FOX NEWS ALERT


Redskins | Police and Courts: S. Taylor - from www.KFFL.com
Sun, 5 Jun 2005 00:04:43 -0700

Updating an ongoing storyline, the Associated Press reports Miami-Dade County police said Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor pointed a gun at someone Wednesday, June 1 during a dispute over two all terrain vehicles he claims the victims had stolen. Taylor, who was with others, left the scene but returned about 10 minutes later and assaulted one victim with his fists. Another man, Charles Elwood Caughman, threatened and chased another victim with a baseball bat, police said. Caughman was arrested later that day and charged with aggravated assault, police said. Police said the Redskins organization cooperated with them during the investigation. As previously noted, Taylor has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm and simple battery. He was accompanied by his attorney, Fred Moldovan, when he turned himself in Saturday, June 4.

TexanBacker93
06-05-2005, 12:08 PM
There were reliable reports (Lance of 610 AM) that Casserly did attempt to trade up for Taylor on draft day. Had the Giants not made the deal with the Chargers for Manning, they may have moved back to #10 and taken Roethlisberger & the Texans would have taken Taylor at #4. So really, enough with the "for those that wanted Taylor posts". The Pats & about 20+ other teams wanted Taylor, as well. The Skins got him. And unless you're Miss Cleo, you didn't know the guy was going postal once he turned pro. Let's just say the Texans were one of the 31 fortunate teams that didn't select Taylor.

Lucky, if the Texans wanted Taylor bad enough they would have made a move to get him regardless of the other trades. I don't see anywhere in my post that I claim to have known he was going to be this type of guy. I'm happy the Texans didn't get him. If he fell I would have wanted them to take him, but he didn't and it worked out for the best for the Texans.

Lucky
06-05-2005, 12:38 PM
Lucky, if the Texans wanted Taylor bad enough they would have made a move to get him regardless of the other trades...
It takes 2 sides to make a deal. It's not like Casserly can impose his will on all other GMs. Just because the deal didn't happen doesn't mean the Texans didn't want Taylor "bad". And my use of the phrase "unless you're Miss Cleo" meant anyone pro/con drafting Taylor, Casserly included. Not "you" specifically. But if you, TexanBacker93, actually are Miss Cleo, I apologize.

Hey, I give the Texans all the kudos for selecting Dunta, but praising them for being 1 of 31 teams that didn't take Taylor is a little much. But like the great philosopher & poet Mick Jagger once said, "You can't always get what you want...but if try sometimes, you get what you need."

ArlingtonTexan
06-05-2005, 01:07 PM
If I remember correctly, the "character issues" associated with Taylor before the draft revovled around him not being coachable. The issues with DUI and now violence were not discussed.

wags
06-05-2005, 02:39 PM
"unless you're Miss Cleo"

That's a bad example Lucky, because she didn't even see her own demise coming. :)

ArlingtonTexan
06-05-2005, 03:13 PM
When your collage teamates, say your not a team player.
You Mods don't see a RED flag pop up. :embarrass

No I don't...

My point more exactly, TO is not a "team" player, but he is not off shooting up houses, driving drunk and holding out on contracts he signed a year ago (oops, well 2 or 3 not bad).

Plenty of guys in all sports who are not ideal teammates, but stay their rear end out trouble and show up on game day and play that same tail off.

ledzeppelin229
06-05-2005, 07:52 PM
They say TO is actually one of the hardest working guys in the NFL and has gained a reputation as that. Taylor only has a reputation of a high draft pick that commits felonies so far so there's nothing good to balance out the bad yet (character wise anyway)

Not that I could suggest anything that compensates for recklessly shooting at houses.

ArlingtonTexan
06-05-2005, 09:17 PM
Football, is a team sport to the Max.. If you don't get with
the team... life can be total hell. Skills are great, but if you
think you all that with out the team.. life can suddenly get
very tough. I would say that, is the 1st thing learned by every kid who ever suited up for football.
If the coach doesn't get rid of him... the players will. But you
show me that a Mod spot here, has got you name on it. :embarrass

In reviewing players for the draft, i read profiles of 500-600 players. Of those, 150-200 every year have some mention of "character concerns" or "not good teammates," etc...Those things range from kids who missed class twice or had one argument with a coach to those pulling a 105lb women down stairs by the hair. If there is a criticism, it is not of me or anyone who is getting this information filtered through 5 or 6 people, but the organizations who spend countless hours and tons of money investigating the backgrounds of these players.

A couple of things, I know some former players personally who spent a long time in the league and if you asked them which would they rather...a guy whose is a pain in the tail and maybe not even a "nice" guy but shows and does his job on the field or the "great guy" limited skilled teammate, with out question it is the first. For these players, your primary job as a teammate is to take care of your responsibility on the field. Until your personality interferes with the job being done on the field, players don't care if you are an arrogant self centered jerk or the world's greatest humanitarian.

F-minus67
06-05-2005, 11:41 PM
how much time can he do, if convicted of all charges?

ArlingtonTexan
06-06-2005, 12:04 AM
where are you going... I can't follow you. His team mates, said he wasn't a Team player.. right there, is enough to
explain the hard feelings... One big insult, to tag another
player with.. ( it better be fact ) This isn't a small thing.
No wonder he doesn't like practice with the team. A tag like
this is like a target on your chest. I don't care about his profile, skills, work habits or his personality.

Bad teammate does not equate with a guy shooting in a house, etc. or even translate he does not belong on the team. Different sport, but see Barry Bonds.

You have a "pie in the sky" notion of people saying someone is bad teammate and of the idea of "team". My point is that there are plenty of bad teammates and at least a couple on every team (no matter what is said publically). Again, players only care about a dude showing up on gameday doing his part, even the ones saying Taylor( or whoever) is a not a good teammate.

TEXANS84
06-06-2005, 09:40 AM
how much time can he do, if convicted of all charges?
Redskins | Police & Courts: Taylor Could Face Prison Time - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:10:55 -0700

Updating ongoing reports, Jody Foldesy, of the Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor could face a mandatory minimum sentence of at least three years in prison if convicted of a felony charge of aggravated assault with a firearm. Taylor has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, which is a third-degree felony, and simple assault, which is a first-degree misdemeanor.

infantrycak
06-06-2005, 10:14 AM
how much time can he do, if convicted of all charges?

If he actually discharged the weapon (one of the guys on 610 am this morning said he did, not that that proves anything) he faces a minimum sentence of 20 years.

Link (If he had just let the prosecution go forward and ignored the politics, he would have served his second term with distinction.)

edo783
06-06-2005, 11:45 AM
Redskins | Police & Courts: Taylor Could Face Prison Time - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 6 Jun 2005 03:10:55 -0700

Updating ongoing reports, Jody Foldesy, of the Washington Times, reports Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor could face a mandatory minimum sentence of at least three years in prison if convicted of a felony charge of aggravated assault with a firearm. Taylor has been charged with aggravated assault with a firearm, which is a third-degree felony, and simple assault, which is a first-degree misdemeanor.

This is the correct jail time item. If he had discharged the weapon (turns out he didn't) then 20 years would have been the number. However, keep in mind these are the charges BEFORE any plea bargining. By the time that is done with, he may only be charged with jay walking.

TheOgre
06-06-2005, 12:33 PM
I really wish we had traded up to get him last year. :brickwall

Texas_Thrill
06-06-2005, 12:37 PM
I disagree with the fact that you think an organization has nothing to do with it. These organizations are here to teach and install discipline for not only what u do on the field but to provide help with what you do OFF it. Yes in the end its up to you to make the decisions but let's not kid ourselves like the organization isn't there to help prep you on what is out there.

These kids have no idea of the things that face them. Who cares what game you play or how much money you make! It doesnt change the life you've had to live for the past 20 years before all the money. Most of them are coming from environments of poverty, crime, and where sports are more important than academics or mentral prep.

The only thing MONEY does is provide you the opportunity to do something dumber on a grander scale. Though I'm sure most of you never had to face the odds these kids faced coming up. I'm not condoning what he did but I also understand that Taylor has probably been able to do whatever he wanted whenever he wanted and gotten away with it b/c that's just how we treat gifted athletes from the moment we NOTICE they have athletic talent.

WWJD
06-06-2005, 01:15 PM
I reiterate..in my opinion...the Washington Redskins are in no way responsible for what Sean does off the field. He is a grown man. They are not his babysitters nor his keepers.

That would be a bit like saying I work for Shell and if I go rob a bank it's somehow Shell's fault because I work there....

The blame game only goes so far. It's not Dan Snyder's fault or Coach Gibb's fault or his teammates or his coaches fault that Sean makes irresponsible and criminal decisions.

infantrycak
06-06-2005, 01:17 PM
I disagree with the fact that you think an organization has nothing to do with it. These organizations are here to teach and install discipline for not only what u do on the field but to provide help with what you do OFF it. Yes in the end its up to you to make the decisions but let's not kid ourselves like the organization isn't there to help prep you on what is out there.

The league and teams do try to provide some guidance to the players. Of course Sean Taylor skipped part (maybe the do not brandish firearms part) of the league's clinic and got fined for it.

JustBonee
06-06-2005, 05:04 PM
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/5655/gtast2od.jpg

JustBonee
06-06-2005, 05:05 PM
http://webpages.charter.net/rdsknsfan/SeanDunce.jpg

http://img115.echo.cx/img115/6290/b00000g3pv01lzzzzzzzgif2sd.jpg

JustBonee
06-06-2005, 05:08 PM
http://www.abel-leasing.com/kevin/taylor-tyson.gif

Texas_Thrill
06-06-2005, 07:31 PM
Ridiculous. Just plain ridiculous. Whoever created those was a pure *******. I'm sure that will be bleeped out.

I am not saying these organizations are soley responsible for his actions. I also belive that some organizations are run better than others. That some organizations care more about the people that work there no matter what their role is than others.

This kid is coming from a background most of us can't even imagine. You stick millions of dollars in their pockets with no life skills beyond the inner-city and you expect them to just GET IT????

I could care less if he played another down in football but I do care if I see a young man who is ONLY 22 throwing his life away b/c nobody around him cared enough to help or pull him aside and talk to him or even TRY to figure out why he his acting out in this way. Nobody ever thinks about these kids background or the way they were raised.

There was times growing up that I can relate to exactly what he was feeling in this situation. If someone had robbed me and I knew who it was I would have reacted the same way. It was and still is in many cases the law of the streets. Something I can see most of you are ignorant too or probably dont even realize exist.

texasguy346
06-06-2005, 08:28 PM
http://img252.echo.cx/img252/5655/gtast2od.jpg

This is by far my favorite one. :cool:

WWJD
06-06-2005, 09:58 PM
Texas Thrill...

I don't agree with your opinion at all; I do have sympathy for a young man throwing his life away. A life that by all indications was going to be prosperous and successful.

At some point..some age...people are accountable for their own actions. You said he's 22. That's a grown man. He's able to process thoughts. He's able to make his own choices.

As I said the blame game only goes so far.

There have been plenty of people that grew up with less than Sean and they have gone on to be successful, law abiding citizens. Your life is what YOU make of it. Same for Sean. It's not his fault how he grew up and he's a product of that and always will be but it's HIS choice to make adult, wise decisions that don't include committing felonies.

God gave him a brain. It's time he used it. This "poor street kid" stuff only goes so far. Particularly since it's been years since he's been a kid.

texasguy346
06-06-2005, 10:02 PM
I totally agree with you WWJD. Couldn't have said it better myself.

WWJD
06-06-2005, 10:06 PM
Well thanks.

I don't want to sound mean because I DO have sympathy for Sean. My wish is that he would get his life straight, go play football which he excells at and be an example for kids that maybe come from the same background he does.

How great would it be if he could go to schools and tell the kids how he came from nothing and now plays NFL football at the highest level? That is what I wish for Sean.

TEXANS84
06-06-2005, 10:49 PM
Redskins | S. Taylor may have Contract Issues - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 6 Jun 2005 18:15:14 -0700

Adam Schefter, of NFL.com, reports Washington Redskins S Sean Taylor has put his bonus in serious question for questionable behavior off the field. Taylor has $10.475 million worth of signing and option bonus payments, including a $3.32 million bonus payment not yet paid and due in April 2006. There is a chance that bonus could be withheld given his arrest this weekend. Taylor's contract has specific default language that could wind up costing him. If he is convicted, and unable to report to the Redskins, he would be in a position where he could lost even more money.

ArlingtonTexan
06-06-2005, 11:06 PM
Your post is pretty funny since Taylor's father is the Florida City Police Chief. Taylor's own Father is in law enforcement. He knows right from wrong.

So what you are saying that there are Black athletes who are NOT from poverty stricken, crime ridden inner city environments :confused: :confused:

WWJD
06-06-2005, 11:12 PM
No he's saying that Sean's father is in law enforcement and he should know better.

WWJD
06-07-2005, 12:02 AM
Sorry about that Arlington...I'm a bit slow sometimes and missed that sarcasm.

swtbound07
06-07-2005, 02:34 AM
beautiful photo work gentlemen.....

ArlingtonTexan
06-07-2005, 07:22 AM
another profootballtalk.com note on this situation:

Jody Foldesy of The Washington Times reports that Florida police do not contend that Redskins safety Sean Taylor fired his gun during an incident that resulted in a charge of aggravated assault, and that shots apparently were fired at Taylor during the second phase of the altercation, when Taylor alleged threw punches.

This development is significant for Taylor, since under Florida's "10-20-Life" gun law the mandatory minimum sentence for aggravated assault with a gun shoots from three years to 20 if a shot is fired.

Redskins defensive lineman Phillip Daniels looks to have some tough love ready for Taylor, who has ignored phone calls all offseason from Hall of Fame coach Joe Gibbs, when Taylor reports for training camp on July 31. "What better way can you embarrass the Redskins than by not returning calls from a guy who has been there and done good things for this team and this organization?" Daniels told The Washington Post. "But we've got to support [Taylor]. He needs us, and we need him on the field. We don't need him out there doing crazy stuff like this over an ATV.

"Sean's got to be smarter. Right now it's not about the fact that we need him, it's the fact of how he is as a person, and right now he's destroying his career. He's destroying it real fast. The worst thing you can do in this league is for someone to look at you and say, 'Oh, he's a knucklehead, he's always in trouble.'"

Added guard Randy Thomas: "He needs to get himself motivated. With guns and all of that, I don't get into all of that; it's so childish. Personally, I just try to stay away from things like that. The guy is a great player, but as a man, he's got to take some steps decision-wise."

ArlingtonTexan
06-07-2005, 07:29 AM
beautiful photo work gentlemen.....

:whistle: :dontknowa :embarrass

Texas_Thrill
06-07-2005, 02:28 PM
WWJD, Dont get me wrong here. Sean is VERY responsible for what he did.

All I'm simply saying is most of these athletes have been given FREE passes through school and everything else. They didn't have to actually pass classes or have the consequences a normal student has when they get in trouble b/c they can score a touchdown or shoot a basket.

Does that excuse their actions no? It does however show that some folks think you put millions of dollars in these kids and some LIGHTBULB of right and wrong is suppose to go off in their head. The fact that his dead is a police chief to me only strengthens the fact that he probably believes he can get away with anything.

Preacher's kids always were the worst ones.

texasguy346
06-24-2005, 07:45 PM
Safety To Go On Trial The Day After Redskins' Opener
Associated Press

MIAMI -- Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor would face a minimum prison sentence of three years if convicted on charges of pointing a gun during a dispute about an all-terrain vehicle.

A trial date was set for Sept. 12, the day after the Redskins open their season.

...

ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2093853)

texasguy346
07-12-2005, 06:39 PM
Taylor Scheduled To Be In Court Sept. 12

By Len Pasquarelli
ESPN.com

Washington Redskins safety Sean Taylor on Tuesday rejected a plea agreement in Miami that would have included a three-year prison term.

The second-year veteran, charged with felony assault and misdemeanor battery stemming from an alleged June 1 altercation, faces a maximum of 16 years in prison if convicted of both charges. Taylor is free to travel within the United States, and, thus, to report to the Redskins' training camp as he defends himself against the charges.

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ESPN (http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2106416)

stephen1
07-13-2005, 01:58 PM
i hate to see such a talented player waste it away

ATX
07-13-2005, 02:58 PM
i'm just glad he wasn't around when we drafted in 2004. The DRob pick doesn't look too bad about now.

texanfan2002114
07-13-2005, 03:10 PM
i'm just glad he wasn't around when we drafted in 2004. The DRob pick doesn't look too bad about now.


I'm just glad we didn't trade up like most people in here wanted the Texans to do.

ATX
07-13-2005, 03:13 PM
very true, we'd be without babin and robinson and stuck with taylor.

Hervoyel
07-13-2005, 04:41 PM
I'm just glad we didn't trade up like most people in here wanted the Texans to do.


I don't think "most" people wanted to trade up. A lot did and we're all lucky that Casserly knows best. I would have taken him if he'd fallen to us so obviously I'm not GM material. I wouldn't have traded up for him, I don't think? I hope I didn't say I would. Time to go mine the old posts.

TexansCanes
07-13-2005, 10:55 PM
I don't think "most" people wanted to trade up. A lot did and we're all lucky that Casserly knows best. I would have taken him if he'd fallen to us so obviously I'm not GM material. I wouldn't have traded up for him, I don't think? I hope I didn't say I would. Time to go mine the old posts.

well as it has been reported on here and from cc we tried to trade up, but i would say it worked out better that we didn't. as much as i hate to say this becuase of how much i like and stand up for sean, i think that he might need to go to prison or get suspended. he just doesn't get it, he plays a game for a living making millions and he doesn't care. i am just waiting for washington to say we don't want you to show up, but snyder won't let that happen. he was asked if he was going to be at training camp he said "we'll see", maybe he was joking but that would suprise me. i thought this situation would straighten him out, but it doesn't look like it.

Texas_Thrill
07-14-2005, 10:49 PM
And you know I'd still like to believe that certain organizations are just plain run better than others. I'd like to believe that we are a much more stable and disciplined organizations than the run a muck boys in washington. I think that had he come here casserly, capers, and his old teammate AJ would have been a stabilizing affect on him. Might not change his ways but at least keeps him out of the trouble he's in now.

Of course now if someone broke in and stole my stuff and i knew who they were and where they were well I aint saying what he did was right....but i understand.