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handswarmer
10-17-2012, 06:03 AM
Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

Playoffs
10-17-2012, 06:29 AM
http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=94469

GP
10-17-2012, 07:28 AM
He'll eventually cost your team.

Enjoy the honeymoon.

Scooter
10-17-2012, 07:43 AM
million dollar body, ten cent brain. i'm one of jacoby's bigger supporters here, but kubiak stuck with him much longer than he should've. i'm not sure how it turned out that he didnt get enough support or was under too much pressure, because it seemed the opposite. any "berating" jacoby received was for not doing his job, such as showing up on time.

i want to believe jacoby has finally grown up, but i saw the evidence of his impending return to reality with the pose he struck when getting a P.I. call earlier in the year. yall have used him pretty well, and he's made some big plays as he's known for, but he looks exactly the same to me. sloppy routes, weak hands, same demeanor between cocky and clueless, and looking for the home run. as you'll see soon enough, that home run swing will prove costly with his lack of maturity and focus. drops, fumbles, muffs, and unaccountability will prove to remain the constant.

Thorn
10-17-2012, 08:29 AM
Some players do better after they move. It's a fact of life in the NFL. Jacoby was a nightmare for the Texans, but he's doing well for the Ravens. No one should be surprised at that. We all knew he had the talent, he just was only occasionally using it here and more looking like a fool most of the time.

chicagotexan2
10-17-2012, 08:41 AM
He left Houston at basically the same level that he came in. He had his good moments that were surrounded by too many idiotic ones. I'm glad he's gone.

Yankee_In_TX
10-17-2012, 08:43 AM
Jacoby never got better and never matured. He had talent.

The fans kept waiting for his breakout game. Early on he had a few returns. But he never matured into a good receiver and towards the end started making pretty boneheaded plays - dropping easy catches, fumbles, etc.

GP
10-17-2012, 08:44 AM
This is where Ravens fan tells us we don't know as much as we think we know on this topic.

I've seen this all too many times with visiting fans on here.

gwallaia
10-17-2012, 09:23 AM
Sometimes a change of scenery is good for some people. Jacoby really ****ed up down here in Houston, maybe Baltimore is better for him.

thunderkyss
10-17-2012, 09:49 AM
Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

I've always thought with a different head coach, with a different system Jacoby would have a productive NFL career. He's not going to the Hall of fame, He's not going to be an All-pro. But he'll be in the league as long as & as productive as Lance Moore, Jabar Gafney, Eddie Royal, Deone Branch, etc...

After he had his break out year, I'd have moved him to the #2 position, get him on the field more, keep him in a rhythm. He would have been great for Andre & Matt.

& if he could play with a QB who can/will regularly throw the ball ahead of him & let him run under it, he'll be an extremely effective weapon, whether he catches the ball or not, the defense will back up, LBs will have to play deeper, especially if they are responsible for the deep middle, because deep will actually mean deep. Safeties will have to play deeper.

I know he gets a bad rap for running lazy routes. I've never seen that. The dude is fast & can change directions on a dime. He's got small hands, that ain't no lie.

But I think it was wrong for Kubiak to keep him buried at the #3 position behind a guy who couldn't get open & posed no deep threat whatsoever, then ask him to "step up" & be the #1 every now & then, then go back to #3... that's never going to work.

ajohnson80
10-17-2012, 09:50 AM
you can polish a turd and it may shine for a bit but in the end its still a turd

Trail.Blazr
10-17-2012, 09:50 AM
Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

He was vilified? Meh... He was glorified first. There was s&*t-ton of hype early on, as he was electric. He certainly has the tools and brought it to the house early in his career as a return man and SOME brilliant catches, but he's WAY too inconsistent. But he gradually lost his support in Houston week by week/month by month as his fun to watch return touchdown celebrations became more overshadowed by his drops, fumbles, muffs, etc... Eventually I think alot of fans tired of the roller-coaster ride that is Jacoby. He certainly wasn't run out of town because he was a great receiver and return man.

All in all, MOST around here are glad to see him gone, and saddened by the last Jacoby appearance in a Texans uniform resulted in:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880927/jacoby.gif

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens? Good. Come talk to us when it counts. When Jacoby is at that pivotal point in the Raven's season. Good luck. He could prove his past history wrong... But So far his past history stands for it's self.


You read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment? Everyone is under pressure to perform.. it's a man's game. As for berating him daily.. don't tell us you read it.. show us what you read. And the last bit about the positive environment... Alllllmost sounds suggestive of our environment being inverse... NOT.

So, in summary, Jacoby is deemed as HUGE reward - HUGE risk. With the highs, you have to accept the lows. Houston, after 5 years, finally decided the risk came with too high a price.

Scooter
10-17-2012, 10:20 AM
i'm a bit surprised at your response fiddler. we were on the same page for a long time regarding jacoby, and i felt the same way as you for as long as possible, but last year with and without andre was my breaking point. even with walter splitting the #1 duties jacoby couldnt rise up to a major target ... the oakland game seared into most minds.

as far as not seeing his lazy routes, you're the only one bud ... they're still bad. it's not as magnified in baltimore's offense which is a bit more open, but his lack of precision was glaringly obvious in our scheme. i called him a "weapon" when defending the re-signing, and still see it that way, but he's simply too unstable and refuses to grow up. he'll have a middling 3rd WR season, possibly better with the ravens leaning on him, but the forecast (and i do wish him the best) looks bleak.

thunderkyss
10-17-2012, 10:32 AM
He was vilified? Meh... He was glorified first. There was s&*t-ton of hype early on, as he was electric. He certainly has the tools and brought it to the house early in his career as a return man and SOME brilliant catches, but he's WAY too inconsistent. But he gradually lost his support in Houston week by week/month by month as his fun to watch return touchdown celebrations became more overshadowed by his drops, fumbles, muffs, etc... Eventually I think alot of fans tired of the roller-coaster ride that is Jacoby. He certainly wasn't run out of town because he was a great receiver and return man.

Special teams wise, we're still having the same problems. Even fumbles & muffs, after getting rid of our second (our second) return specialist (specialist).... & we still can't block for the guy.

I was watching Green Bay's special teams, every kick-off return that resulted in a touch back, every man ran through the end-zone. Every man. If we kicked the ball off that ended in a touchback, half the team was headed towards the bench once they got to the 20 yard line.

Probably means nothing, right? & How does this relate to Jacoby?

All in all, MOST around here are glad to see him gone, and saddened by the last Jacoby appearance in a Texans uniform resulted in:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880927/jacoby.gif

Jacoby definitely deserves most of the blame for that & I think a lot of the blow-back from that was deserved. However, we (the whole team) were doing things & taking chances that game that we just don't do. Tj Yates consistently throwing the ball into coverage for one.

I've got no evidence to back it up, other than I thought that was an uncharacteristic performance from the whole team. The Defensive guys stepped it up big time. That's great, they were challenged & they answered the bell.

To me, it looked like the special teams & the offense was challenged to do the same that resulted in poor decisions. To me, that's knowing your players & knowing how to get 112% from them. We saw one coach who managed it well & two that didn't.

None of that takes responsibility away from the players, I don't think. Jacoby shouldn't try to field a ball on the rebound with a defender in his face. But why in the heck was there a defender in his face?

Last year we were right there with the best return teams, but none of them had to deal with the constant pressure our return man had to face.

To me, it looked like they were told to "make a play" & they tried, just didn't work out the way we wanted. Bad on the player, I'm not saying otherwise, equally bad on the coach for asking inconsistent players to take chances in such an important game.

I still think we could have won that game if we'd have used the "game manager" approach that got us to that game.


So, in summary, Jacoby is deemed as HUGE reward - HUGE risk. With the highs, you have to accept the lows. Houston, after 5 years, finally decided the risk came with too high a price.

I agree with the huge risk/huge rewards statement. As the head coach/offensive coordinator, you're supposed to be able to manage/limit that risk & maximize the rewards. As fans we've been begging for a deep threat opposite Andre to help relieve pressure on Andre. Jacoby had a productive season for a third receiver, followed by another season that would have made him a starter (#2) on just about any other team in the league... he's outperformed the guy in front of him in "reciever stats" but is constantly told that is not good enough??

I know Andre has had great years regardless where/when Jj lined up, but I guarantee you he would have had even better numbers with a burner like Jacoby lining up across from him on a more regular basis. I guarantee you if Jacoby was playing instead of KDub the other night, it would have been a different game all-together :kitten:

Don't get me wrong, I'm not bitter that Jacoby left, I'm happy for him. It's screwed up that he went to the Ravens (who will probably be our biggest rival over the next 10 years) but leaving this team (which I love) is probably more beneficial to Jacoby than us (we don't have the QB or the Coach he needs to succeed. Doesn't make us a bad team, just different, not a good fit.)

Think about that kid that you used to love hanging around with when you were younger. You felt sorry for him, because he's got all the talent in the world, an infectious smile, & wouldn't hurt a fly. He's a good kid, but you know he won't be able to escape his environment. His life is going to be wasted because of his circumstances.

I know we see this scenario play out all the time, with your Andre Johnsons, Jabar Gafneys, Kevin Walters... etc. But to me, Jacoby is different. He didn't go to Miami, or Florida, or Eastern Michagan, or any Div I program. He's a totally different kind of success story that I love & I know about this story because of the Houston Texans, because of Gary Kubiak, so there is no ill will there, only gratitude. I love the Texans more than I love Jacoby Jones, which is why I'm here & not a Baltimore fan.

I'm not related to Jacoby, never had the pleasure of meeting him, but I see kids like Jacoby all the time & I think Jacoby's story is a good story for those kids, an inspiration. In the NFL there's only one champ, but in life there are all kinds of winners. He's not the best receiver in the league, but Jacoby is a winner. Period.

Big Lou
10-17-2012, 10:37 AM
I was talking to a co-worker from Baltimore. He knows all about Jacoby, but is happy with him so far. He thinks Jacoby may come in with a chip on his shoulder to this game.

I believe he may be right, but is that fair. The coaches and management gave him too many chances really, so does he have a right to be mad at Houston for cutting him?

If he lights it up Sunday I will be so pissed. I don't wish the guy any ill will, I hope he keeps it together, but he has no right to be pissed at Houston IMO.

I'm still wondering where I can find a clip of Jacoby getting a key to the city in Baltimore for his performance in last years playoff game......

Trail.Blazr
10-17-2012, 11:23 AM
Special teams wise, we're still having the same problems. Even fumbles & muffs, after getting rid of our second (our second) return specialist (specialist).... & we still can't block for the guy.

I was watching Green Bay's special teams, every kick-off return that resulted in a touch back, every man ran through the end-zone. Every man. If we kicked the ball off that ended in a touchback, half the team was headed towards the bench once they got to the 20 yard line.

Probably means nothing, right? & How does this relate to Jacoby?

It doesn't. Neither the Texans S/T blocking woes nor Green Bay's running through the endzone on a touch back is irrelevant in terms of Jacoby's tendencies for muffs/fumbles. Certainly the S/T blocking would present MORE opportunities for a return, but at the core of the return, the return man HAS to field the ball or waive it off. I don't care if the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse is thundering down the field unmolested with the intent of BURYING the return man... HIS job is to first and foremost field the ball or waive it off.. period. When a return guy CONSISTENTLY fails that aspect, it's unacceptable.. No MATTER how brilliant a runner they are.

To me, Jacoby's biggest problem was looking up field before looking the ball into his hands. We see it time and again in football. It happens. But with JJ, it happened too often and more importantly, it seems the timing of it was the worst moments. That is likely a result of getting ahead of the play, out of sheer will to do something GREAT! No denying his talent. Look, I'm not suggesting anyone hate or love on Jacoby. With his Jekyl-n-Hyde act, it's very probable that a lot of us did both!

Blame it on Jacoby? Blame it on poor blocking? Blame it on poor coaching? Blame it on what ever you want... He still has to catch the ball, or he's not doing his job.

Bottom line is, the biggest reason he was given his walking papers was his inability to field the ball consistently. Take that away and he's AMAZING.

On a side... in respect to your reference to (our second) return specialist... I feel Trindon was let go for different reasons all together. Fortunately for him, he wasn't hated on like Jacoby was. But ironically, I'm guessing Kubiak & Smith felt vindicated by their decision to release him when they watched the Monday Night Game in San Diego.:kitten:

thunderkyss
10-17-2012, 12:36 PM
It doesn't. Neither the Texans S/T blocking woes nor Green Bay's running through the endzone on a touch back is irrelevant in terms of Jacoby's tendencies for muffs/fumbles. Certainly the S/T blocking would present MORE opportunities for a return, but at the core of the return, the return man HAS to field the ball or waive it off. I don't care if the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse is thundering down the field unmolested with the intent of BURYING the return man... HIS job is to first and foremost field the ball or waive it off.. period. When a return guy CONSISTENTLY fails that aspect, it's unacceptable.. No MATTER how brilliant a runner they are.

To me, Jacoby's biggest problem was looking up field before looking the ball into his hands.

I agree 100% again, I'm not taking any fault away from Jacoby. I am saying we've had two "specialist" with the same issue. There is a reason for that. Doesn't excuse the player, his responsibilities are cut & dry. I'm only saying we didn't help him any. Gave him multiple chances to succeed... yeah. Put him in a position to succeed, from a return-man's perspective, no. It's like putting a QB behind an offensive line that has repeatedly underperformed in protection responsibilities.

This is the last word I'm going to say on Jacoby Jones. I'll look forward to his success in the NFL, like I said he's a good story for many, many kids. I won't root for him. Not against Houston. I'm not going to root for him as a Raven, I don't roll like that.

But Jacoby & his success, Leach's success, Pollard's success show that we have issues on this team. Some have been fixed.... Wade. Some have not.

dream_team
10-17-2012, 01:12 PM
For a long time, Texans fans have been craving for a young, talented receiver to take over the #2 role, and also be the heir apparent to Andre Johnson as the go-to guy. In Jacoby's rookie season, especially the pre-season, he really took us all by surprise, and we felt we got the steal of the draft. Texans fans thought we finally found that guy. Just about everyone had high expectations for this guy.

These high expectations, I think, is the main reason why so many were happy to see him gone. He did get many chances to prove he could be a starter on this team, but like what others have said, he didn't step up. He has the size, athleticism, and speed to be a starter in this league, but he has three big weaknesses IMO.

1) He either has weak, or small, hands. He doesn't like catching balls with just his hands. And when he does, he doesn't seem to secure it very fast. He doesn't appear to have that ability to snatch balls in the air. He lets too many balls come to his chest, or he tries to cradle it, this is what leads to alot of frustrating drops.
2) He shies away from contact. Don't expect any big catches out of him in the middle of the field. If he feels he's about to get popped, he'll brace himself before securing the ball or even not make an attempt at the catch.
3) His route running is only mediocre. I think this is why he failed when he would step in for AJ. He can't get open on his own, he relies on others to draw the coverage attention.

As a returner, I thought he was good. He tend to look for the home run too much, and just didn't take what was there alot. This led to alot of running sideways & backwards that frustrated fans. In the past two seasons, though, he did fix his turnover problems. (of course, he had one big turnover in the playoffs)

In my opinion, he was a good returner and 3rd receiver... that's it! He had value on this team. It's evident now, as production from our returners and 3rd receiver have dropped. Since Ravens fans got him for cheap in FA, they really don't have much expectations out of him, so that's why they're pretty happy with him.

I, for one, hope Jacoby succeeds in Baltimore. I like to see all former Texans succeed. Of course, I want them to have their worst game of their careers against Houston though.

Trail.Blazr
10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
I agree 100% again, I'm not taking any fault away from Jacoby. I am saying we've had two "specialist" with the same issue. There is a reason for that. Doesn't excuse the player, his responsibilities are cut & dry. I'm only saying we didn't help him any. Gave him multiple chances to succeed... yeah. Put him in a position to succeed, from a return-man's perspective, no. It's like putting a QB behind an offensive line that has repeatedly underperformed in protection responsibilities.

This is the last word I'm going to say on Jacoby Jones. I'll look forward to his success in the NFL, like I said he's a good story for many, many kids. I won't root for him. Not against Houston. I'm not going to root for him as a Raven, I don't roll like that.

But Jacoby & his success, Leach's success, Pollard's success show that we have issues on this team. Some have been fixed.... Wade. Some have not.

To be clear... I am a fan of the kid, in the same way I rooted for Rocky Balboa... Like you stated, a small time kid from Lane College(where you say) comes to the NFL unpolished and makes a splash. I was merely dragging him through the mud to speak to/defend the notion given by the OP, that JJ was vilified, which can't be denied, but can certainly be justified.

If he can turn it around in Baltimore, awesome. If for the reasons you suggest, even better for him.. woe is we. So far, it seems he's turning out to be what Raven Fans/Jacoby Fans wished for. Buyer beware.

b0ng
10-17-2012, 01:14 PM
My criticism of Jacoby stemmed from not being very good at catching the ball and badly badly timed turnovers. You guys may have a good year out of him this year, but if he doesn't continue to work ball security he's going to erase all those kudos in a real hurry.

As far as receiver he was okay, but he never elevated himself above Kevin Walter in my eyes. While he had much better physical traits to be a WR, he just really didn't get much separation, and he was pretty inconsistent in terms of catching the ball. If he's cleaned all that up then maybe you got yourselves a gem, but while in Houston I believe (With no real proof to back this up other than on-field performance) that he just didn't put as much work into becoming a better WR as he probably should've. Maybe with a coaching change and a wake-up call he re-invented himself but give him a whole year and then evaluate his performance to get a better idea of what Jacoby Jones is as a player.

noxiousdog
10-17-2012, 01:39 PM
Jacoby is just a guy. I think dream_team really nailed it. It's not like he's lighting it up in Baltimore. He's averaging 30 yards a game just like he did here.

CloakNNNdagger
10-17-2012, 06:02 PM
Here's an extensive piece that came out in the Baltimore Sun today re. Jacoby. Includes comments by Kubs:

A JOYFUL JACOBY JONES READY TO FACE HIS FORMER TEAM (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/)

SAMURAITEXAN
10-17-2012, 06:09 PM
This is Jacoby's first year with Ravens. I am sure the Ravens and their fans will find out soon or later why we let him go.

I hope, the Ravens will find out why against Texans!!! :evil:

Go Texans!!!

Double Barrel
10-17-2012, 06:15 PM
Here's an extensive piece that came out in the Baltimore Sun today re. Jacoby. Includes comments by Kubs:

A JOYFUL JACOBY JONES READY TO FACE HIS FORMER TEAM (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/)

I neither wish him ill-will nor success. I'm pretty apathetic about the guy. (Although my policy this week is for him to suck and cough up a ball or two...just being a Texans fan, of course).

However, this little nugget really framed Jacoby Jones for me:

“I’m closer to a “Dancing with the Stars,’ player,” he said to a reporter, who then asked him if he had another dance lined up. Jones replied, “I said I was going to be humble and not dance, but I think I have something in my sock. I’ve got something. I’m going to pull something out.”

Keep dancing in front the mirror. You go, boy. :dance:

Thorn
10-17-2012, 06:20 PM
He's neither the first or the last ex-Texan to move and do well for someone else. It's just life in the NFL. Can you imagine how the 49er fans felt when Montana was playing for the Chiefs?

Texan_Bill
10-17-2012, 06:26 PM
I don't care how well he plays somewhere else. As long as it is somewhere else.

He gives you promise and potential with an equal part of suck. He was given 6 years of patience here to figure things out and never really did.

Meh, he is who is..... The guy who is pretty good, right up until he sucks.

handswarmer
10-17-2012, 06:58 PM
He was vilified? Meh... He was glorified first. There was s&*t-ton of hype early on, as he was electric. He certainly has the tools and brought it to the house early in his career as a return man and SOME brilliant catches, but he's WAY too inconsistent. But he gradually lost his support in Houston week by week/month by month as his fun to watch return touchdown celebrations became more overshadowed by his drops, fumbles, muffs, etc... Eventually I think alot of fans tired of the roller-coaster ride that is Jacoby. He certainly wasn't run out of town because he was a great receiver and return man.

All in all, MOST around here are glad to see him gone, and saddened by the last Jacoby appearance in a Texans uniform resulted in:
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880927/jacoby.gif

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens? Good. Come talk to us when it counts. When Jacoby is at that pivotal point in the Raven's season. Good luck. He could prove his past history wrong... But So far his past history stands for it's self.


You read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment? Everyone is under pressure to perform.. it's a man's game. As for berating him daily.. don't tell us you read it.. show us what you read. And the last bit about the positive environment... Alllllmost sounds suggestive of our environment being inverse... NOT.

So, in summary, Jacoby is deemed as HUGE reward - HUGE risk. With the highs, you have to accept the lows. Houston, after 5 years, finally decided the risk came with too high a price.

I'm still looking for the article- mayb I heard it on the radio, not sure.

Anyway, the guy has been pretty good for us here, I knew about the drops, et al- I started a thread on on here on him when we signed him- it was about the same. His 108 yd td return was a beauty nd some of the catches he has made have been pretty nice.

BullBlitz
10-17-2012, 07:18 PM
Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

Jacoby came into the league needing to mature like a lot of players, and most of us liked him as a person, and are glad to see him finding some success in the league.

I enjoyed watching him catch a couple of balls and get that big return last week.

thunderkyss
10-17-2012, 07:30 PM
Here's an extensive piece that came out in the Baltimore Sun today re. Jacoby. Includes comments by Kubs:

A JOYFUL JACOBY JONES READY TO FACE HIS FORMER TEAM (http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/baltimore-sports-blog/)
In Houston, he tantalized fans with those big plays, drawing comparisons to Andre Johnson. But he frustrated them with drops, uneven play and those costly miscues in the playoffs, which is why they may greet him with boos Sunday afternoon at Reliant Stadium.

“I don’t even care,” Jones said. “I am [a part of] Ravens Nation. They love me and I love them. That’s all that matters right now.”


It's a shame when 28 year old Jacoby Jones is the bigger man.

False Start
10-17-2012, 07:44 PM
Hes back with vengeance! He even has a sponsorship deal.


http://i265.photobucket.com/albums/ii202/J4103V/jjbf3.jpg

drs23
10-17-2012, 08:29 PM
Jacoby is just a guy. I think dream_team really nailed it. It's not like he's lighting it up in Baltimore. He's averaging 30 yards a game just like he did here.

I haven't looked at his stats but to me he just looks more comfortable there. Like someone mentioned in another thread, he's only running a go route, flag or post. All vertical, just haul ass. Not quite Kube's requirement of performing the entire route tree.

noxiousdog
10-17-2012, 11:54 PM
I haven't looked at his stats but to me he just looks more comfortable there. Like someone mentioned in another thread, he's only running a go route, flag or post. All vertical, just haul ass. Not quite Kube's requirement of performing the entire route tree.

Keep in mind, he looked a lot better here when Schaub was on the field. But our last 8 games of Jacoby were awful. 10 catches in 8 games. That's a lasting impression. Not to mention the fumbles.

NastyNate
10-18-2012, 05:23 AM
I'm still looking for the article- mayb I heard it on the radio, not sure.

Anyway, the guy has been pretty good for us here, I knew about the drops, et al- I started a thread on on here on him when we signed him- it was about the same. His 108 yd td return was a beauty nd some of the catches he has made have been pretty nice.

Ugh, I hate it for ya, I really do, but he'll get your hopes up oh so high, and then kick a leg out of that high chair the second he does. Jacoby relies on the PI as well, he will go down in history as a very average receiver with above average skills. It's those BK hands!

GP
10-18-2012, 08:14 AM
I'm still looking for the article- mayb I heard it on the radio, not sure.

You'll be looking for that article forever because it doesn't exist.

I am sure Gary Kubiak has chewed his ass, just like he has chewed anyone's ass for having bad hands and failing to improve them.

He was hard on Trindon Holliday, too, and all that happened was Trindon ended up being a bumbling returner who was cut and then signed by Denver and then muffed a punt with the Broncos and lost it to the other team.

You cannot act like the coach was the problem.

Just wait and see. We kept the guy for 5 years, you think we'd just turn loose of him for no good reason??? Just like with David Carr, too. He's not starting in the NFL is he? Nope, and for a reason.

Case closed. Next topic?

rolyat93
10-18-2012, 12:26 PM
You cannot act like the coach was the problem.


This was the only problem I had with his post. Sure, tell us about how he's doing well in a low pressure situation, and how he's looked decent with a change of scenery. But, don't act like it was coaching that held him back.

GP
10-18-2012, 02:55 PM
This was the only problem I had with his post. Sure, tell us about how he's doing well in a low pressure situation, and how he's looked decent with a change of scenery. But, don't act like it was coaching that held him back.

Yep.

I guess John Fox over there in Denver is a hard ass, too, since Holliday promptly coughed the ball up in his first gig with the Broncos.

I like visiting fans, but when they try and tell us our business and they're nowhere near being accurate...it's sort of irritating. I wouldn't dream of going to a visiting board and try to tell them why or how they are not doing well or make commentary on former players of theirs, etc. It's hilarious.

Double Barrel
10-18-2012, 03:25 PM
Kubiak did nothing but facilitate situations that were perfect for Jones to succeed here. He gave Jacoby more than his fair share of chances, but dude could not consistently produce.

A change of scenery does some players good, but it's in the player's head and not on the shoulders of a coaching staff in most cases. Kubiak would have loved to have a successful Jacoby Jones on his roster, but his monumental mistakes were too much for even a patient coach like Kubiak to endure for five seasons.

SAMURAITEXAN
10-19-2012, 01:55 AM
Speed Cheetah < Jocoby

Hands JJ Watt > Jocoby

Brain Ant > Jocoby

Nuf said.

Signed Kubiak

handswarmer
10-19-2012, 11:43 AM
I like visiting fans, but when they try and tell us our business and they're nowhere near being accurate...it's sort of irritating. I wouldn't dream of going to a visiting board and try to tell them why or how they are not doing well or make commentary on former players of theirs, etc. It's hilarious.

You act like I said "Jacoby's failures in Houston were all Kubiak and the teams fault; he's been golden here so you guys suck"

I wrote nothing of the sort- I wrote "I read" then I wrote "I heard" because I couldn't remember where but someone (a national writer) had said/wrote that Jones was ridden hard by Kub- then I wrote "Your thoughts?" as in asking for feedback as to what really happened.

Nowhere did I try to "tell you your business" nor did I try to tell you " why or how they are not doing well or make commentary on former players of theirs, etc.".

I asked a question.

handswarmer
10-19-2012, 11:55 AM
You'll be looking for that article forever because it doesn't exist.

I am sure Gary Kubiak has chewed his ass, just like he has chewed anyone's ass for having bad hands and failing to improve them.

He was hard on Trindon Holliday, too, and all that happened was Trindon ended up being a bumbling returner who was cut and then signed by Denver and then muffed a punt with the Broncos and lost it to the other team.

You cannot act like the coach was the problem.

Just wait and see. We kept the guy for 5 years, you think we'd just turn loose of him for no good reason??? Just like with David Carr, too. He's not starting in the NFL is he? Nope, and for a reason.

Case closed. Next topic?
I didn't say the coach was the problem. Re-read what I wrote.

I'm sure your dismissive tone makes you feel better about yourself too.

Double Barrel
10-19-2012, 12:40 PM
The change of scenery to the Ravens could end up being a great thing for Jacoby's mindset.

If he's truly a changed player, then this weekend could prove to be dangerous for the Texans. A motivated player trying to prove his worth to his former team can be a dangerous player. The Texans would be wise to keep that in mind.

If he's the same old Jacoby Jones that Houston fans have come to love/hate, then this game could end up well for the Texans as he presses too hard to show us up. In that sort of pressurized situation, the old Jacoby would be sure to make some mistakes that benefits the opposition. For the sake of the Texans, I'm hoping hes' the same old Jacoby Jones. ;)

amazing80
10-19-2012, 01:11 PM
can't wait to boo this guy, costing us a chance at greatness last season......:pissed:

b0ng
10-20-2012, 10:23 AM
With how badly our STs have been playing I'm pretty certain Jones is going to do alright returning punts.

Playoffs
10-20-2012, 11:47 AM
So, guess who PFF has graded as the 22nd (out of 108) best WR in the league going into this weekend ..... ?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8yykrMiKB1r3tqll.jpg

... 6 spots ahead of Andre.

GP
10-20-2012, 12:58 PM
I didn't say the coach was the problem. Re-read what I wrote.

I'm sure your dismissive tone makes you feel better about yourself too.

Whatever. You said what I said you said.

Keep spinning though. There never was an article, and whatever you heard on a radio was pure speculation or gossip. Save that stuff and just talk real talk, please.

Texn4life
10-20-2012, 12:59 PM
So, guess who PFF has graded as the 22nd (out of 108) best WR in the league going into this weekend ..... ?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8yykrMiKB1r3tqll.jpg

... 6 spots ahead of Andre.

Jacoby has had a good year so far. No one will sit here and argue that at all. If it has truly clicked with him then there's no reason why he can't continue to play well. But we all know that this could turn into fools good and he'll pop up as a turd once again when this chips are all out on the table.

Andre on the other hand is capable of playing much better and I'm sure he'd even admit that. I'd love to see those grades at the end of the year.

Daravenator
10-20-2012, 01:58 PM
Jacoby has had a good year so far. No one will sit here and argue that at all. If it has truly clicked with him then there's no reason why he can't continue to play well. But we all know that this could turn into fools good and he'll pop up as a turd once again when this chips are all out on the table.

Andre on the other hand is capable of playing much better and I'm sure he'd even admit that. I'd love to see those grades at the end of the year.

That is true; it is also true that every now and again a change in scenery makes for a long-lasting difference. Maybe the Ravens coaches have bee able to get him to stop focusing on his past failures and to start concentrating on what got him into the NFL in the first place. Hard to say. And maybe at some point Jacoby will lay a big turd on the turf. But right now, he's paying huge dividends.

Texn4life
10-20-2012, 02:09 PM
That is true; it is also true that every now and again a change in scenery makes for a long-lasting difference. Maybe the Ravens coaches have bee able to get him to stop focusing on his past failures and to start concentrating on what got him into the NFL in the first place. Hard to say. And maybe at some point Jacoby will lay a big turd on the turf. But right now, he's paying huge dividends.

I just said that it is possible that it has clicked and if so there's no reason he can't continue to play well so not sure what you're trying to make a point against.

We've just seen this same movie over and over here in Houston so it would surprise absolutely no one if he finds ways to lose games for the Ravens at some point this year. I'm not saying it's gonna happen, but I won't be falling out of my seat shocked if it does. Jacoby doesn't have my respect as a player because he was a knucklehead who cheated himself and the team by failing to commit 100 percent to the game. As opposed to Leach and Pollard I hope Jacoby falls flat on his face in Baltimore.

handswarmer
10-20-2012, 03:55 PM
Whatever. You said what I said you said.

Keep spinning though. There never was an article, and whatever you heard on a radio was pure speculation or gossip. Save that stuff and just talk real talk, please.

Whatever? Weak response...unless your 14.

What I said was I had read, then I said maybe I heard it- t point was I was asking for input into that thought process that the idea was Jacoby was put under pressure by Kubiak and I asked for peoples thoughts- that is all. No one else had a problem with the question and the thought process- only you.

But you can stay the Internet tough guy.

noxiousdog
10-20-2012, 04:46 PM
Jacoby has had a good year so far. No one will sit here and argue that at all. If it has truly clicked with him then there's no reason why he can't continue to play well. But we all know that this could turn into fools good and he'll pop up as a turd once again when this chips are all out on the table.


I'll argue it. He's been Ok. He hasn't been good.

He's 99th in receiving yards. 140th in receptions.

On the plus side he's 37th in yards per catch.

You can't be 'good' with only 2 catches a game.

Texn4life
10-20-2012, 04:49 PM
I'll argue it. He's been Ok. He hasn't been good.

He's 99th in receiving yards. 140th in receptions.

On the plus side he's 37th in yards per catch.

You can't be 'good' with only 2 catches a game.

Considering he's their third receiver and probably 5th option because of Pitta and Rice I'd say he's been good. Stats don't always tell the whole story. Factor in his Kickoff return for a TD and it adds to his resume. I wish he was terrible there, but for the role he's asked to play for them he's been good.

GP
10-20-2012, 09:00 PM
Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

Whatever? Weak response...unless your 14.

What I said was I had read, then I said maybe I heard it- t point was I was asking for input into that thought process that the idea was Jacoby was put under pressure by Kubiak and I asked for peoples thoughts- that is all. No one else had a problem with the question and the thought process- only you.

But you can stay the Internet tough guy.

Stop name-calling and just own up to your ORIGINAL POST in this thread, which was this:

Realizing he was villified in Houston, I was pleasantly surprised by Jacoby and the presence he brings to the Ravens offense- he matches up well with Torrey Smith on the outside and his returns have been a pleasant surprise.

So far he has been a definite positive for the Ravens. I read somewhere he was under so much pressure by Kubiak to perform; Kub;s would berate him daily in practice, etc., but here has thrived in a positive environment.

Your thoughts?

So let me do a 14-year-old'ish breakdown of your post:

1. "Realizing he was vilified in Houston..."

Seriously? Vilified? Come on, man. You don't open up as a visitor here and say that to us. We had high hopes for the guy, he was not worthy of being here for the five years he was here, but it is what it is at the end of the day. When your "electric" WR has short circuits at all the wrong times and in the most needed situations, yeah we get upset at it. But he wasn't vilified. You started off poorly.

2. "I read somewhere..."

Look, Ravens fan, you're the one who claimed an article is out there where it is a reported fact that he was chewed on and berated by Kubiak. Not me. YOU. You laid it out there, and then you cam back and said "Well, maybe I heard it on the radio...not sure." Yeah, what-the-eff-ever, bro. You are just talking out of your butt at this point, IMO. That was mistake number two.

3. "But here he has thrived in a positive environment."

So you basically track back to #1 where you scapegoat the Texans (specifically the coach, Gary Kubiak). What an incredibly irrational thing to say here. So again you're just acting like your precious Ravens were able to draw out of Jacoby Jones what we couldn't. Pffft. You don't listen very well or you'd remember that we state over and over that the guy has a history of making big plays and then sort of negating those good things by botching plays in a horrific way down the line. His ratio of great plays to bumbling plays is not optimal or he'd be here. Which, in a way, you're implying that we should have held onto him or coached him better. LOL.

So again, nice job of coming in here and putting your spin on things. You wanted our thoughts, and when we gave them to you you're getting pensive over it. And you're recanting things, changing y our story on what you read...err, I mean what you "heard"...errrr, I mean "yeah, well you're 14!"

I didn't want to have to break your post down for you, but someone had to put the telestrator to work and draw out the X's and O's of how you botched the play...just like Jacoby Jones. Seems it's an epidemic or something ;)

handswarmer
10-21-2012, 08:39 AM
vil·i·fy (vl-f)
tr.v. vil·i·fied, vil·i·fy·ing, vil·i·fies
To make vicious and defamatory statements about

I am pretty sure that, while JJ did not live up to the promise and draft status that some Texans fans placed upon him, there were some fans who wrote 'vicious and defamatory statements' about him in past threads and aposts- therefore my use of the word.

Whether I read it or heard it, is inconsequential: I asked for feedback on it. Yet you seem to fail to understand that I asked a question. And again, other posters had no problem answering or providing their thoughts.

JJ's 'thriving in a positive environment' is directed more as in a general statement of the organization and the fans NOT indrectly placing too much pressure on JJ. I didn't say that the Texans Coaches failed on JJ; I didn't say they quit on him. Whatever you think I "implied" is on YOU- I'm pretty straight forward; no need to look deep into what I write like you have.

Namecalling? Seriously? I guess the PM's I got about you from other Texan fans were correct- don't get all butt-hurt because I called you an "Internet Tough Guy" (which is the way you come off)= if that hurt your feelings then you shouldn't post on a message board.

handswarmer
10-21-2012, 08:43 AM
Considering he's their third receiver and probably 5th option because of Pitta and Rice I'd say he's been good. Stats don't always tell the whole story. Factor in his Kickoff return for a TD and it adds to his resume. I wish he was terrible there, but for the role he's asked to play for them he's been good.

He's been exactly what you described- a pleasant 3rd or 4th option in the passing game and a welcome addition on returns.

Lucky
10-21-2012, 09:17 AM
Jacoby was a nightmare for the Texans, but he's doing well for the Ravens.
Jacoby is having almost the exact same season in Baltimore that he had in Houston in 2011. About 2 catches a game at 16 ypc, with a return TD. Why wouldn't Raven fans be happy with that from their #3 WR?

Jones would still be a Texan had he not muffed the punt in Baltimore. Unless he muffed a punt in Foxboro the following week. We could play the "what if" games all day. My feeling is that at times Jacoby will press and try too hard. Like trying to replace Andre. Or make a big play in a playoff game when it isn't there. That's when the mistakes happen. Today could be one of those games where Jones tries to do too much. To show Houston that they made a mistake. Could be the difference in a tight game.

BullBlitz
10-21-2012, 09:30 AM
Jacoby had the unfortunate occurrence of a bad play at a critical time. He was treated pretty poorly by so-called fans after that game, so his departure was a blessing for him.

I'm glad that he got another contract, was picked up by a competitive AFC team, and is seeing some success this year. He botched a play last year, but he didn't deserve the backlash he got after that game.

GP
10-21-2012, 10:19 AM
vil·i·fy (vl-f)
tr.v. vil·i·fied, vil·i·fy·ing, vil·i·fies
To make vicious and defamatory statements about

I am pretty sure that, while JJ did not live up to the promise and draft status that some Texans fans placed upon him, there were some fans who wrote 'vicious and defamatory statements' about him in past threads and aposts- therefore my use of the word.

Whether I read it or heard it, is inconsequential: I asked for feedback on it. Yet you seem to fail to understand that I asked a question. And again, other posters had no problem answering or providing their thoughts.

JJ's 'thriving in a positive environment' is directed more as in a general statement of the organization and the fans NOT indrectly placing too much pressure on JJ. I didn't say that the Texans Coaches failed on JJ; I didn't say they quit on him. Whatever you think I "implied" is on YOU- I'm pretty straight forward; no need to look deep into what I write like you have.

Namecalling? Seriously? I guess the PM's I got about you from other Texan fans were correct- don't get all butt-hurt because I called you an "Internet Tough Guy" (which is the way you come off)= if that hurt your feelings then you shouldn't post on a message board.

I offered my thoughts like the other posters did. But you began your post with accusations and finger pointing.

You started out being the Internet tough guy by putting our HC and our organization on full blast by accusing us, in our own house nonetheless, of vilifying JJ and that he was prospering in a more "positive environment."

You were all cheery and giggles until I called you on your B.S., and so you started the name calling by saying I am a 14-year-old. Please please PLEASE show me any of my posts to you where I name-called you prior to you rolling out the weak sauce "You're a 14-year-old" comment.

You got flustered, you fumbled the ball, it's OK. It happens.

Don't sit there and act better. Your OP was awful, in my opinion. Some sugar sandwiched on each end by some B.S. gossip at the start and at the finish...which is very 14-year-old'ish, btw. Just own up to your spin, that's all you had to do. Don't down my team to me and expect I won't say something.

And as for the PM's you received, well that shows the maturity level of those posters. 14-year-olds pass notes in class, so it's no skin off my back.

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2012, 10:23 AM
I took care of JJ by picking him up for fantasy football this week ... Bwahahaha ! He's doomed today . :bubbles:

handswarmer
10-21-2012, 10:29 AM
I offered my thoughts like the other posters did. But you began your post with accusations and finger pointing.

You started out being the Internet tough guy by putting our HC and our organization on full blast by accusing us, in our own house nonetheless, of vilifying JJ and that he was prospering in a more "positive environment."

You were all cheery and giggles until I called you on your B.S., and so you started the name calling by saying I am a 14-year-old. Please please PLEASE show me any of my posts to you where I name-called you prior to you rolling out the weak sauce "You're a 14-year-old" comment.

You got flustered, you fumbled the ball, it's OK. It happens.

Don't sit there and act better. Your OP was awful, in my opinion. Some sugar sandwiched on each end by some B.S. gossip at the start and at the finish...which is very 14-year-old'ish, btw. Just own up to your spin, that's all you had to do. Don't down my team to me and expect I won't say something.

And as for the PM's you received, well that shows the maturity level of those posters. 14-year-olds pass notes in class, so it's no skin off my back.

I really hope that someday you'll understand :mariopalm: but until then, have a great day and good luck!

Honoring Earl 34
10-21-2012, 10:40 AM
I really hope that someday you'll understand :mariopalm: but until then, have a great day and good luck!

JJ got drafted in the 3rd round out of tiny Lane College . The Texans and JJ had a relationship of the wild charming son and the dad ( Kubiak ) who tried to tame him . JJ was given the chance to be the man when AJ got hurt last year and didn't produce . If he's doing great then more power to him .

ps. His biggest issue is his hands are so small that he can't palm a WNBA basketball . He measured 7.5 inches from the tip of the pinkie to the tip of the thumb .

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/05/06/36/1337246/3/628x471.jpg

GP
10-21-2012, 04:08 PM
I really hope that someday you'll understand :mariopalm: but until then, have a great day and good luck!

I don't have to understand anything more than what you did in your very firs post of this thread, which was to state that Jacoby Jones is now (a) thriving because he was (b) berated by Kubiak, (c) vilified by Houston, and now he is oh so very fortunate to (d) be in a positive environment in Baltimore.

And I told you that you had NO article to substantiate your claims against our HC. You then said you heard it on the radio. Yeah, sure.

From there, you called me a 14-year-old.

And your team got its ass handed to them today, so that's the cherry on the top of this ice cream sundae.

You got taken to task, and I have not done anything but show you that your original post was inaccurate and, obviously, bad in taste. Don't come here and talk down to us about our former player when that same guy , Jacoby, was given 5 years to make it work here. We were OVERLY patient with him. Period.

TheMatrix31
10-21-2012, 04:18 PM
**** you, Jacoby.

chicagotexan2
10-21-2012, 04:28 PM
**** you, Jacoby.

$&@Ł harder joDopey. I wish he'd gotten lit up by braman.

Texecutioner
10-21-2012, 05:03 PM
Really wanted to see jjmake a bad play today. Luckily he was no factor a tv all in the receiving game. Had a few nice returns though.

handswarmer
10-21-2012, 05:03 PM
I don't have to understand anything more than what you did in your very firs post of this thread, which was to state that Jacoby Jones is now (a) thriving because he was (b) berated by Kubiak, (c) vilified by Houston, and now he is oh so very fortunate to (d) be in a positive environment in Baltimore.

And I told you that you had NO article to substantiate your claims against our HC. You then said you heard it on the radio. Yeah, sure.

From there, you called me a 14-year-old.

And your team got its ass handed to them today, so that's the cherry on the top of this ice cream sundae.

You got taken to task, and I have not done anything but show you that your original post was inaccurate and, obviously, bad in taste. Don't come here and talk down to us about our former player when that same guy , Jacoby, was given 5 years to make it work here. We were OVERLY patient with him. Period.

Oooh Internet Tough Guy rehashes everything posted in the thread because he cannot make his point. Nice try.

If only you could comprehend instead of making inference as to intent.

Congrats on the win- The Texans beat the Ravens on every facet of the game.

Too bad you couldn't- you had as much to do with the win as I did the loss.

burro
10-21-2012, 05:33 PM
Jacoby's biggest contribution in today's game was a good chuckle; the thundering of emphatic boos everytime he took the field was simply hilarious. To think, we used to only boo him after the plays. LOL

Good riddance.

thunderkyss
10-21-2012, 07:34 PM
I was disappointed to hear the boos. Would have thought we would have been classier than that.

Good to see the players.. who had more at stake in that game than we did... were pretty classy with the way they recieved Jj...

SheTexan
10-21-2012, 08:03 PM
I was disappointed to hear the boos. Would have thought we would have been classier than that.

Good to see the players.. who had more at stake in that game than we did... were pretty classy with the way they recieved Jj...

Glad to know I'm not the only one who disliked the booos. I thought it was tacky and very classless for Texans fans to be that rude. Just wasn't called for. JMO!! JJ is simply playing the game, just like all the rest.

My daughter told me Texan fans were giving V. Leach a bad time when he was warming up before the game. Nagging, booing, making inappropriate comments. WHY do that? Proves nothing except making Texan fans look like poor sports. Sad and pathetic IMHO!!

jjjezebel
10-21-2012, 09:14 PM
I was disappointed to hear the boos. Would have thought we would have been classier than that.

Good to see the players.. who had more at stake in that game than we did... were pretty classy with the way they recieved Jj...

Agreed. I thought the constant booing was excessive and unnecessary.

GlassHalfFull
10-21-2012, 09:20 PM
I was disappointed to hear the boos. Would have thought we would have been classier than that.

Good to see the players.. who had more at stake in that game than we did... were pretty classy with the way they recieved Jj...

I agree. I don't like booing, and didn't like the way the crowd got carried away with it.

GP
10-21-2012, 09:28 PM
From the audio on my TV, the boo'ing was not loud. I am sure it was unnerving for you ladies and gents at the game, but over the TV it was a muffled noise that was barely audible. Which tells me it came from a very small section of fans across the stadium...the bandwagon types who don't know how to respect the business side of football. IMO.

I was unhappy with the boo'ing. There was no need for those fans to do that.

And in Jacoby's defense, he had a really good set of returns today. And a catch over on the sideline. He did well.

Even Pollard, who had the helmet-to-helmet hit on OD...he wasn't trying to hurt him, it just happened.

Now, if the Ravens had been whipping our butts today, I really think the Leach/Pollard/Jones trio would have been clowning a little bit, tbh.

Texecutioner
10-21-2012, 09:39 PM
To be clear... I am a fan of the kid, in the same way I rooted for Rocky Balboa... Like you stated, a small time kid from Lane College(where you say) comes to the NFL unpolished and makes a splash. I was merely dragging him through the mud to speak to/defend the notion given by the OP, that JJ was vilified, which can't be denied, but can certainly be justified.

If he can turn it around in Baltimore, awesome. If for the reasons you suggest, even better for him.. woe is we. So far, it seems he's turning out to be what Raven Fans/Jacoby Fans wished for. Buyer beware.

Please don't ever put JJ's name and Rocky Balboa's name in the same sentence ever again. That was arguably the best trios of all time having 4 to5 great films with great characters that displayed greatness. JJ is nothing but a typical NFL cat with some talent that will never achieve what he is capable of.

houstonspartan
10-21-2012, 10:27 PM
I have no ill will towards Jacoby. I'm just glad he's gone. He was babied and coddled by this team (and overpaid) and he simply didn't live up to his potential. Good for him if he revives his career, but, I'm glad he's outie.

Oh, and the only reason he had a couple of good returns - in my opinion - has more to do with our Special Teams than his talent. Out Special Teams squad is atrocious.

MEGA SWATT
10-21-2012, 10:38 PM
I didn't care for the boos, however those fans are the same ones that have boo'd the Texans this year and including the early going of this game IIR.

TheMatrix31
10-21-2012, 11:25 PM
Classy nothing. Who gives a ****. Guy cost us a playoff game last year and he wasted five years of our time.

**** him. I'd boo him the loudest if I were there and I hardly ever boo at live events.

I'm glad we beat their ass and I'm glad he was inconsequential in this game. Worthless loser.

silvrhand
10-21-2012, 11:48 PM
I was disappointed to hear the boos. Would have thought we would have been classier than that.

Good to see the players.. who had more at stake in that game than we did... were pretty classy with the way they recieved Jj...

Booing is part of the game, it's part of the business. Nothing like a little heckling to see if we can get under his skin. He was the best part of their game today, but didn't mean I wasn't going to try to disrupt it.

It's not personal it's a game.

houstonspartan
10-21-2012, 11:50 PM
Classy nothing. Who gives a ****. Guy cost us a playoff game last year and he wasted five years of our time.

**** him. I'd boo him the loudest if I were there and I hardly ever boo at live events.

I'm glad we beat their ass and I'm glad he was inconsequential in this game. Worthless loser.

LMAO!!!!

I blame Kubiak/Smith for Jacoby more than anyone. It took them way too long to see what the rest of us saw. And let's not forget that Kubiak/Smith decided to pay Jacoby over Leach, which led to Leach leaving. Massive mistake.

Trail.Blazr
10-22-2012, 12:00 PM
Booing is part of the game, it's part of the business. Nothing like a little heckling to see if we can get under his skin. He was the best part of their game today, but didn't mean I wasn't going to try to disrupt it.

It's not personal it's a game.

I agree. I wanted sooo bad to see Jacoby screw up. If it was a result of thin skin, that would have been perfect. Face it.. Jacoby will mess up when pressing. Booing him could have resulted in him pressing.

Whether you find it classy or not... it's an entitlement that any fan has. Boo who you don't like at a game. Could you imagine the boos that would be offered if Rosenfels strutted out on the field?

Wait till next game when Mario comes to town. :-) I have a feeling that'll be

REALLY CLASSY :sarcasm:

False Start
10-22-2012, 12:25 PM
Call me classless, or whatever. I booed the hell out him every time he touched the ball. :bat:

Same thing will go for Mario, see Texan Bill's sig for my reasoning.


"Judgement Day November 4th!!"
Signed,
Marion Williams

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/orly.gif

Trail.Blazr
10-22-2012, 04:54 PM
Please don't ever put JJ's name and Rocky Balboa's name in the same sentence ever again. That was arguably the best trios of all time having 4 to5 great films with great characters that displayed greatness. JJ is nothing but a typical NFL cat with some talent that will never achieve what he is capable of.

LOL @ taking exception to the Rocky reference :boxing:

I think instead of saying I am a fan, I should have said I was a fan and my rationale of why I rooted for him may be better received. I certainly didn't anticipate anyone confusing my thinking Jacoby ever lived up to the greatness of the fictional character I compared him to... Although, didn't the Italian Stallion start off as a BUM?

Just for you, I think I can refrain from putting the two in the same sentence. Honestly, after this week, I think we, as Texan fans will finally let Jacoby drift away to never become a Texans Talk forum topic again.

drunkcookie
10-22-2012, 05:08 PM
At games fans cheer, buy merch going in and out, get drunk, ***** and moan and boo...fans are often times unbiased and unreasonable at games... That's why we're called fans... I don't like booing players like Jacoby, but i don't blame others...

Now Wario? The "Judgement day" comment has earned non-stop booing...

Javi
10-22-2012, 05:27 PM
I was unhappy with the boo'ing. There was no need for those fans to do that.



I was at the game, and I was a part of the booing. Is it really different than Astros' fans booing Carlos Beltran when he played for the Mets? Fans are allowed to boo... as long as they don't go overboard and make death threats.

DaTruthExplodes
10-22-2012, 05:31 PM
jacoby's success with the ravens just illuminates the incompetence of joe marciano as a special teams coach.

Insideop
10-22-2012, 05:55 PM
Classy nothing. Who gives a ****. Guy cost us a playoff game last year and he wasted five years of our time.

**** him. I'd boo him the loudest if I were there and I hardly ever boo at live events.

I'm glad we beat their ass and I'm glad he was inconsequential in this game. Worthless loser.

Wow! Tell us how you really feel TM31! :)

As for the booing, I guess if you paid to go to the game it's your right to boo if you want to, whether it's classy or not! JMO!

GP
10-22-2012, 05:59 PM
I was at the game, and I was a part of the booing. Is it really different than Astros' fans booing Carlos Beltran when he played for the Mets? Fans are allowed to boo... as long as they don't go overboard and make death threats.

What's allowed and what's right/wrong are two different things.

Hey, boo your heart out. It's your choice.

I was indifferent when Jacoby was returning kicks. I wanted us to stop him, or make him fumble, but I didn't have the level of anger in me to the degree I would boo the guy.

Boo'ing implies a great dissatisfaction with what you're seeing on the field. What the hell was there to be upset with with Jacoby out there for the Ravens??? He's out there screwing up for THEM now.

If anything, you guys should be cheering.

thunderkyss
10-22-2012, 06:12 PM
Personally, I'd take the stealthy approach. He didn't do crap yesterday, well special teams wise, he showed why he was a Texan for so long, can't tell me that wasn't special. But.. be classy, not say anything.


Host the Ravens in a play-off game & when Jacoby does what he do, erupt in the loudest laughter ever known to man.... set ricter scales off & ish.

Instead, now he's got bulletin board material. He may have came into this game thinking, "it's just another game." Next game, not so much. Ever see Jacoby return two in a single game? I'd hate for that to be us.

Yeah, I'll say it. I'm scurred of Jacoby Jones.

gwallaia
10-22-2012, 06:13 PM
Four things bugged me about Jacoby when he was here.

1. Giving up when the QB was scrambling. Not coming back to try to get open.
2. Showboating and waving to his Momma in the stands on punt/kick returns when he was on the 20 yard line. I was always afraid he was going to fumble. (Jonathan Joseph showboats as well while the play is still going on, that makes me nervous.)
3. Fumbling.
4. His route running.