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tacoman_j
06-02-2005, 08:18 PM
He's a great talent, plus we need as many malcontents that we can get. Plus, he'll make the roads of Houston a little less safer!!!

texan279
06-02-2005, 08:19 PM
Koren Robinson has hands of stone and will probably be serving a one year suspension this season...

TexanFan881
06-02-2005, 08:33 PM
Koren Robinson has hands of stone and will probably be serving a one year suspension this season...

Oh, ya, I forgot about that. I would have been willing to give him a chance here but if he is going to have to serve a one year suspension then there is no reason to get a guy who we will have to wait a year for. I wonder what team would give him a chance...

vtech9
06-02-2005, 08:56 PM
He's a great talent, plus we need as many malcontents that we can get. Plus, he'll make the roads of Houston a little less safer!!!
Ummm...NO!

Panther5407
06-02-2005, 09:07 PM
No, we already have a good enough Robinson, even if he isnt on the same side of the ball. Koren just has to many problems.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 09:10 PM
not only will he probably not want a 1 yr contract, he brings alot of trash(his problems) with him. He may face suspension(s). And we aren't in dire need of a WR. Johnson,Bradford,Gaffney,Armstrong,Mathis,Starling ,Swinton....

Davis37
06-02-2005, 09:11 PM
Well at least there are a couple of people on this board that have a sense of humor. I think we should get Korean, then trade David Carr for Jeff Garcia! :highfive:

tacoman_j
06-02-2005, 09:27 PM
Well at least there are a couple of people on this board that have a sense of humor. I think we should get Korean, then trade David Carr for Jeff Garcia! :highfive:


That's exactly what should happen. What's Casserly thinking by not jumping in on this. Trade Carr for Garcia and pick up the Koren. Remember he is more naturally talented than Tory Holt. (same university)

Davis37
06-02-2005, 09:35 PM
After the great trade of DC for JG, Cass would trade 2 1st round draft picks and DD for Jerome Bettis. :evilb:

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 09:40 PM
Koren Robinson has hands of stone

I just want someone to explain to me how a guy who has caught over 70 passes in one season can have hands of stone?

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 09:46 PM
I just want someone to explain to me how a guy who has caught over 70 passes in one season can have hands of stone?

Okay, no problem. He gets a lot of balls thrown to him and catches an unimpressive percentage of them. Not only that, he drops a lot of balls dropped right into his hands softly.

sprtsfanatic
06-02-2005, 09:48 PM
I just want someone to explain to me how a guy who has caught over 70 passes in one season can have hands of stone?

please dont ask that question...Id hate to see the numerous replies that are going to come with the drop pass percentages compared to bradfords....guess its too late now...if you ask it...they will come... :crying:

TexansNeedRBin05
06-02-2005, 09:50 PM
After the great trade of DC for JG, Cass would trade 2 1st round draft picks and DD for Jerome Bettis. :evilb:

I think DD for Jerome Bettis would be a great trade! :highfive: 2 1st alittle high tho. :goodnight

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 09:51 PM
Okay, no problem. He gets a lot of balls thrown to him and catches an unimpressive percentage of them. Not only that, he drops a lot of balls dropped right into his hands softly.

Besides Andre, name one WR on this team that has caught over 70 passes playing the role of 2nd WR?

Panther5407
06-02-2005, 09:53 PM
Besides Andre, name one WR on this team that has caught over 70 passes playing the role of 2nd WR?

It would take to many passes just to him to get to 70, the Seahawk recievers last years where known for making costly drops. I hate to see it too, I like the team, my uncle turned me to watch them.

D-ReK
06-02-2005, 09:54 PM
Besides Andre, name one WR on this team that has caught over 70 passes playing the role of 2nd WR?

Besides Andre, name one WR on this team that was targeted over 115 times in a season like Robinson was in 2003...

Davis37
06-02-2005, 09:55 PM
I think DD for Jerome Bettis would be a great trade! :highfive: 2 1st alittle high tho. :goodnight

Look Tacoman, these posters have taken our sarcasmfest seriously... :goodnight

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 09:55 PM
It would take to many passes just to him to get to 70, the Seahawk recievers last years where known for making costly drops. I hate to see it too, I like the team, my uncle turned me to watch them.

I could care less how many passes it took them to reach 70 catches. Tell me who caught over 70 passes for this team besides Andre?

When your RB is second to your primary WR in catches, that say's alot about the WR's that's behind the primary WR. They can't get open.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 09:58 PM
Besides Andre, name one WR on this team that was targeted over 115 times in a season like Robinson was in 2003...

I don't care how many times the dude was targeted. The fact of the matter is he caught over 70 balls. Only one WR on this team can do this on a consistent basis.

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:02 PM
I could care less how many passes it took them to reach 70 catches. Tell me who caught over 70 passes for this team besides Andre?

When your RB is second to your primary WR in catches, that say's alot about the WR's that's behind the primary WR. They can't get open.

Either they cant get open, or the QB doesnt have time to see them before he gets sacked. Ever think about that?

Panther5407
06-02-2005, 10:03 PM
I think DD for Jerome Bettis would be a great trade! :highfive: 2 1st alittle high tho. :goodnight

I can beat all those trades, trade Carr for the guy that was Adam Sandlers stunt double in The Longest Yard. The guy got paid for how many times he got hit and how hard he got hit. He ended up earning like $30,000.

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:04 PM
I can beat all those trades, trade Carr for the guy that was Adam Sandlers stunt double in The Longest Yard. The guy got paid for how many times he got hit and how hard he got hit. He ended up earning like $30,000.

I havent seen The Longest Yard yet, but im sure that he would fit right in to our offensive scheme lol. :brickwall

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:05 PM
Either they cant get open, or the QB doesnt have time to see them before he gets sacked. Ever think about that?

If Andre is able to get open, then how come the rest of the WRs can't? Ever think about that?

Hell they even double team Andre and the other WRs still are not able to take advantage of being single covered.

That's pretty pathetic IMO.

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:06 PM
When your RB is second to your primary WR in catches, that say's alot about the WR's that's behind the primary WR. They can't get open.

It says your QB doesn't have time to check down past his 1st option so he has to dump it off to the RB...

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:07 PM
If Andre is able to get open, then how come the rest of the WRs can't? Ever think about that?

Hell they even double team Andre and the other WRs still are not able to take advantage of being single covered.

Maybe cause Carr only has time to look at AJ before the big DT pushes Mckenny into Carr's face, and he has to dump the ball off to DD or take a sack.

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:08 PM
don't care how many times the dude was targeted. The fact of the matter is he caught over 70 balls. Only one WR on this team can do this on a consistent basis.


I guarantee Gaffney and Bradford would catch 70 balls if they had 115 thrown to them...

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:08 PM
It says your QB doesn't have time to check down past his 1st option so he has to dump it off to the RB...

lol:

Man, ya'll dudes are living in some serious denial man.

Believe what you want, I'm not gon sit up here and debate this all night

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:10 PM
If Andre is able to get open, then how come the rest of the WRs can't? Ever think about that?

It has nothing to do with them getting open, Carr didn't have time last season to check down after his first option...

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:10 PM
Heres the bottom line:

If we were to throw as many passes as Robinson recieved to our other recievers. their receptions would be higher. We have no-one other then AJ with 70+ because we don't throw as many to them. I doubt Koren would ever have a 70+ receptions with the Texans (if he was to join). On another note, kinna hard to get receptions when he might be suspended for a year or end up in jail. Yea ever thaught of that one buddy?

DRIFTAWAY
06-02-2005, 10:11 PM
Heres the bottom line:

If we were to throw as many passes as Robinson recieved to our other recievers. their receptions would be higher. We have no-one other then AJ with 70+ because we don't throw as many to them. I doubt Koren would ever have a 70+ receptions with the Texans (if he was to join). On another note, kinna hard to get receptions when he might be suspended for a year or end up in jail. Yea ever thaught of that one buddy?

Don't think I could have said it any better

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:13 PM
Heres the bottom line:

If we were to throw as many passes as Robinson recieved to our other recievers. their receptions would be higher. We have no-one other then AJ with 70+ because we don't throw as many to them. I doubt Koren would ever have a 70+ receptions with the Texans (if he was to join). On another note, kinna hard to get receptions when he might be suspended for a year or end up in jail. Yea ever thaught of that one buddy?

agreed :bowdown:

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:13 PM
It has nothing to do with them getting open, Carr didn't have time last season to check down after his first option...

But he had enough time to throw it to Davis.

So basically you are telling me Domanick Davis is the second option after Andre.

That does not sound too good.

DRIFTAWAY
06-02-2005, 10:15 PM
Koren Robinson doesn't sound any better

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:15 PM
But he had enough time to throw it to Davis.

So basically you are telling me Domanick Davis is the second option after Andre.

That does not sound too good.

No, its just that a big lineman is chasing Carr, so he throws it to the closest person and hopes to not get his head knocked off.

ArlingtonTexan
06-02-2005, 10:15 PM
I can't believe we have had Kyle Turley/Koren robinson threads where people are even semi-seriously discussing bringing either one those guys in.

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:16 PM
Believe what you want, I'm not gon sit up here and debate this all night

Why do you think #1 WR's put up such awesome stats? Because they are QB's 1st target. Name me any #2 or #3 (besides the Colts WR's) who put up #1 WR like stats. Do you think every WR on this team should have 70 or 80 catches?

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:16 PM
Heres the bottom line:

If we were to throw as many passes as Robinson recieved to our other recievers. their receptions would be higher. We have no-one other then AJ with 70+ because we don't throw as many to them. I doubt Koren would ever have a 70+ receptions with the Texans (if he was to join). On another note, kinna hard to get receptions when he might be suspended for a year or end up in jail. Yea ever thaught of that one buddy?

lol:

First of all Domanick Davis caught 68 passes which puts him second behind Andre in catches.

2nd of all, this dude will not be spending anytime in jail, especially over a D.U.I. The most he can recieve is some community service. You talking like this dude just murdered someone or something :confused:

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:17 PM
So basically you are telling me Domanick Davis is the second option after Andre.

When he is the closest eligible WR and Carr is running for his life yeah he becomes the second option...

texan279
06-02-2005, 10:18 PM
2nd of all, this dude will not be spending anytime in jail, especially over a D.U.I. The most he can recieve is some community service. You talking like this dude just murdered someone or something

No but he already has 2 strikes and if the NFL considers this his 3rd he will be serving a one year suspension...

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:18 PM
No, its just that a big lineman is chasing Carr, so he throws it to the closest person and hopes to not get his head knocked off.

lol:

I just found that to be funny.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:20 PM
No but he already has 2 strikes and if the NFL considers this his 3rd he will be serving a one year suspension...

The NFL will wait to see what the judicial system says about this. They are going to court over this matter.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:22 PM
lol:

First of all Domanick Davis caught 68 passes which puts him second behind Andre in catches.

2nd of all, this dude will not be spending anytime in jail, especially over a D.U.I. The most he can recieve is some community service. You talking like this dude just murdered someone or something :confused:

Before you start smarting off lets see. You kind of walked yourself into this one. You just said this team needs another reciever capable of 70 catches. Well When DD is not running or blocking he is just that, a reciever. And had 68 catches, pretty much almost 70, and less drops too. So As long as we are getting the ball to someone and moving the chains im fine. Moran Norris could have 68 receptions for all i care, because we are still producing. And as for the jail part, in a short time in this league he has already found himself in trouble with the law on multiple occasions. If this continues, you know he will end up in jail. And he was suspended for 4 games last yr, and his behavior hasnt improved any so how do we know he won't be suspended again?

DRIFTAWAY
06-02-2005, 10:24 PM
Before you start smarting off lets see. You kind of walked yourself into this one. You just said this team needs another reciever capable of 70 catches. Well When DD is not running or blocking he is just that, a reciever. And had 68 catches, pretty much almost 70, and less drops too. So As long as we are getting the ball to someone and moving the chains im fine. Moran Norris could have 68 receptions for all i care, because we are still producing. And as for the jail part, in a short time in this league he has already found himself in trouble with the law on multiple occasions. If this continues, you know he will end up in jail. And he was suspended for 4 games last yr, and his behavior hasnt improved any so how do we know he won't be suspended again?

and SOCKS hits again. I def. like this kid :thumbup

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:25 PM
Before you start smarting off lets see. You kind of walked yourself into this one. You just said this team needs another reciever capable of 70 catches. Well When DD is not running or blocking he is just that, a reciever. And had 68 catches, pretty much almost 70, and less drops too. So As long as we are getting the ball to someone and moving the chains im fine. Moran Norris could have 68 receptions for all i care, because we are still producing. And as for the jail part, in a short time in this league he has already found himself in trouble with the law on multiple occasions. If this continues, you know he will end up in jail. And he was suspended for 4 games last yr, and his behavior hasnt improved any so how do we know he won't be suspended again?

Please tell me what team in the NFL want's it's RB to be second on the team in catches? :confused:

I really would like to hear this one.

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:26 PM
I could care less how many passes it took them to reach 70 catches. Tell me who caught over 70 passes for this team besides Andre?

When your RB is second to your primary WR in catches, that say's alot about the WR's that's behind the primary WR. They can't get open.

Wow! If we're talking about the hands of a WR and you don't care how many passes it takes him to catch 70 balls, I'm not sure there's really any point in continuing this discussion...... But, what the heck.

What Gaffney and Bradford's catch total indicate is that we're not coached by one of these West Coast egomaniacs who are out to prove their genius by throw 30 passes a game to their wideouts despite any concern for whether it's an effective way to win games. That joke of a coach in Seattle is still trying to convince the world how smart he is. Carr simply doesn't throw as many passes a game period. Furthermore, and by design, a fewer percentage of his throws go to WRs. Finally, in our offensive system, the passes intended for WRs are lower percentage passes than most of the passes intended for WRs in Seattle. The reason why Davis catches a 3 yard dumpoff and runs 6 yards before he gets touched is because all the WRs have run deep and intermediate routes and left the underneath stuff clear and open. The West Coast system sends WRs on a lot of short crosses and slants (much higher percentage passes).

D-ReK
06-02-2005, 10:27 PM
Please tell me what team in the NFL want's it's RB to be second on the team in catches? :confused:

I really would like to hear this one.

The NFC champion Philadelphia Eagles...

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:29 PM
Wow! If we're talking about the hands of a WR and you don't care how many passes it takes him to catch 70 balls, I'm not sure there's really any point in continuing this discussion...... But, what the heck.

What Gaffney and Bradford's catch total indicate is that we're not coached by one of these West Coast egomaniacs who are out to prove their genius by throw 30 passes a game to their wideouts despite any concern for whether it's an effective way to win games. That joke of a coach in Seattle is still trying to convince the world how smart he is. Carr simply doesn't throw as many passes a game period. Furthermore, and by design, a fewer percentage of his throws go to WRs. Finally, in our offensive system, the passes intended for WRs are lower percentage passes than most of the passes intended for WRs in Seattle. The reason why Davis catches a 3 yard dumpoff and runs 6 yards before he gets touched is because all the WRs have run deep and intermediate routes and left the underneath stuff clear and open. The West Coast system sends WRs on a lot of short crosses and slants (much higher percentage passes).

That joke of a coach has won a Super Bowl. How can he be a joke?

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:31 PM
Please tell me what team in the NFL want's it's RB to be second on the team in catches? :confused:

I really would like to hear this one.


A team will a ball-control philosophy and a RB with good hands that is hopefully a threat in the open field.

Roger Craig may have been 2nd on the 49ers in catches a couple of times. Marshall Faulk, Emmitt Smith, Ladanian Tomlinson, Bill Parcell's coached RBs are all examples of RBs on good teams who are used as a focal point for their passing game.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:31 PM
Please tell me what team in the NFL want's it's RB to be second on the team in catches? :confused:

I really would like to hear this one.

Well we don't want our RB to be 2nd on the team in receptions, but givin our certain circumstances(O-Line :bomb: ) we're makin the best of it and making something happen. Now please tell me something:

Which would you rather have:
Scenario #1- Texans sign Robinson(taking money away maybe from a potential Shelton signing) and when AJ is covered Carr looks to get it to a reciever farther then DD, chances of Carr getting sacked go up.

Scenario #2- Carr does his usual running around from the O-line and still manages to dump it off to DD when AJ is covered.

Which do you prefer?

Our other recievers will get their receptions when Carr gets protection and enough time to find them. If we bring in Koren, Carr still has no protection and not enough time to get it to him.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:31 PM
The NFC champion Philadelphia Eagles...

You do know this team is still trying to add a solid 2nd WR to the roster right?

So they don't fully intend on Westbrook being 2nd on the team in catches.

It's something that just happens.

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:32 PM
That joke of a coach has won a Super Bowl. How can he be a joke?


BARRY SWITZER

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:32 PM
Well we don't want our RB to be 2nd on the team in receptions, but givin our certain circumstances(O-Line :bomb: ) we're makin the best of it and making something happen. Now please tell me something:

Which would you rather have:
Scenario #1- Texans sign Robinson(taking money away maybe from a potential Shelton signing) and when AJ is covered Carr looks to get it to a reciever farther then DD, chances of Carr getting sacked go up.

Scenario #2- Carr does his usual running around from the O-line and still manages to dump it off to DD when AJ is covered.

Which do you prefer?

Our other recievers will get their receptions when Carr gets protection and enough time to find them. If we bring in Koren, Carr still has no protection and not enough time to get it to him.

It doesn't look like Shelton is going to be a Texan. You should just move on.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:34 PM
BARRY SWITZER

Barry still won a Super Bowl though idonno:

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:34 PM
Ok but on another note, you've still failed to answer which scenario you would prefer. And you are still missing the main message bolded there on the bottom.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:35 PM
A team will a ball-control philosophy and a RB with good hands that is hopefully a threat in the open field.

Roger Craig may have been 2nd on the 49ers in catches a couple of times. Marshall Faulk, Emmitt Smith, Ladanian Tomlinson, Bill Parcell's coached RBs are all examples of RBs on good teams who are used as a focal point for their passing game.

I don't mind Davis being apart of the passing game, I applaud it.

But I still believe that this team needs a solid #2 WR and it shouldn't be the RB.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:35 PM
You do know this team is still trying to add a solid 2nd WR to the roster right?

So they don't fully intend on Westbrook being 2nd on the team in catches.

It's something that just happens.

key word- solid Wr, if Koren is a solid WR explain why he was cut?

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:36 PM
lol:

Man, ya'll dudes are living in some serious denial man.

Believe what you want, I'm not gon sit up here and debate this all night

Maybe u should quit contradicting urself and move on also... :crying:

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:39 PM
Ok but on another note, you've still failed to answer which scenario you would prefer. And you are still missing the main message bolded there on the bottom.

I feel Andre and Davis are the only players that can get open on a consistent basis. You seriously can't believe throughout the Texan's entire existance in the NFL, that Carr has never had to time to look through all of his progressions then dump it down to his checkoff in the flat? :confused:

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:40 PM
key word- solid Wr, if Koren is a solid WR explain why he was cut?

Cause the organization was tired of his acts, it wasn't because he was not productive.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:41 PM
Maybe u should quit contradicting urself and move on also... :crying:

Now you are just pulling stuff out your rear end.

I'm through debating with you :thumbdown

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:43 PM
I feel Andre and Davis are the only players that can get open on a consistent basis. You seriously can't believe throughout the Texan's entire existance in the NFL, that Carr has never had to time to look through all of his progressions then dump it down to his checkoff in the flat? :confused:

We never said he never had time to go through his progressions, just it is a very rare occurance... Most of the time Carr only has about 2 seconds to get the ball off before he is running for his life.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:43 PM
but please before you are through debating, you are still yet to answer between my two given scenarios and provide a response to my bolded statement. And to explain why Koren was cut if he is so "solid". I guess you have finally run out of ammo? Come to your senses have you.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:45 PM
We never said he never had time to go through his progressions, just it is a very rare occurance... Most of the time Carr only has about 2 seconds to get the ball off before he is running for his life.

Okay man, ya'll feel one way and I feel the complete opposite. My opinion will not change.

This debate should just stop here.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Wut i Think is you should stop trying to end this debate now since you are coming to your senses and answer my questions. If you are so strong in your opinions you surely will back them up, will you not?

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:47 PM
but please before you are through debating, you are still yet to answer between my two given scenarios and provide a response to my bolded statement. And to explain why Koren was cut if he is so "solid". I guess you have finally run out of ammo? Come to your senses have you.

You are spitting opinions that you want to believe are facts, you are not spitting real facts.

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:47 PM
Barry still won a Super Bowl though idonno:


That's my point. There's an example of a joke of an NFL coach who won a Superbowl. Championships are good indicators but they are not the only bar by which someone should be judged.

Let's play, who's the better coach?:

Mike Ditka or Dan Reeves
Barry Switzer or my 12 year old niece
Hank Schramm or Marty Schottenheimer
George Seifert or Marv Levy
Brian Billick or Andy Reid


Holmgren was fortunate that Ron Wolf put such great talent around him. He should get some credit for assembling a great staff and not messing it up. Perhaps he was a good coach in the mid 90s but he's aweful now.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:48 PM
Wut i Think is you should stop trying to end this debate now since you are coming to your senses and answer my questions. If you are so strong in your opinions you surely will back them up, will you not?

So you want me to sit up here all night and try to change your opinion which is already made up in your mind? Please man, I got better things to do.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:49 PM
key word- solid Wr, if Koren is a solid WR explain why he was cut?

Well we don't want our RB to be 2nd on the team in receptions, but givin our certain circumstances(O-Line :bomb: ) we're makin the best of it and making something happen. Now please tell me something:

Which would you rather have:
Scenario #1- Texans sign Robinson(taking money away maybe from a potential Shelton signing) and when AJ is covered Carr looks to get it to a reciever farther then DD, chances of Carr getting sacked go up.

Scenario #2- Carr does his usual running around from the O-line and still manages to dump it off to DD when AJ is covered.

Which do you prefer?

Our other recievers will get their receptions when Carr gets protection and enough time to find them. If we bring in Koren, Carr still has no protection and not enough time to get it to him.

Come on Boss, you come in here arguing that we need Koren, but after i drop these few posts, im yet to get an answer?

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:49 PM
Okay man, ya'll feel one way and I feel the complete opposite. My opinion will not change.

This debate should just stop here.

I thought it was gonna stop along time ago, but u contradicted urself again and kept debating even tho u had 4 people trying to get u to understand that we would have a #2 wr with 70 catches if Carr actually had time to look at the #2 wr... Then when some1 pointed out that DD had 68 catches, you started another debate about "who would want a rb to be second on the team in receptions"...

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:50 PM
So you want me to sit up here all night and try to change your opinion which is already made up in your mind? Please man, I got better things to do.

Not saying you need to sit up here all night, and i'm not telling you to change my opinion, what i am saying is that if you are so sure we need K-Rob you could certainly answer my posts in one post and back all of that up.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:50 PM
That's my point. There's an example of a joke of an NFL coach who won a Superbowl. Championships are good indicators but they are not the only bar by which someone should be judged.

Let's play, who's the better coach?:

Mike Ditka or Dan Reeves
Barry Switzer or my 12 year old niece
Hank Schramm or Marty Schottenheimer
George Seifert or Marv Levy
Brian Billick or Andy Reid


Holmgren was fortunate that Ron Wolf put such great talent around him. He should get some credit for assembling a great staff and not messing it up. Perhaps he was a good coach in the mid 90s but he's aweful now.

Man, if you want to believe these coaches are jokes than go ahead. All I know is the coaches that I have mentioned earlier has won a Super Bowl.

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:51 PM
It's the curse of Fantasy Football. Koren Robinson gets drafted high in some league that these guys play in and he puts of good fantasy numbers, therefore the Texans could use him. After all, Gaffney's fantasy numbers are nothing compared to Koren's!

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:52 PM
I thought it was gonna stop along time ago, but u contradicted urself again and kept debating even tho u had 4 people trying to get u to understand that we would have a #2 wr with 70 catches if Carr actually had time to look at the #2 wr... Then when some1 pointed out that DD had 68 catches, you started another debate about "who would want a rb to be second on the team in receptions"...

WTH :confused:

Just stop man, please just stop.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:53 PM
It's the curse of Fantasy Football. Koren Robinson gets drafted high in some league that these guys play in and he puts of good fantasy numbers, therefore the Texans could use him. After all, Gaffney's fantasy numbers are nothing compared to Koren's!

Okay, now I'm just lost :confused:

Davis37
06-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Ok, im done... Time to get some sleep. Yo Socks, have fun debating with this guy lol. :goodnight

dalemurphy
06-02-2005, 10:53 PM
Man, if you want to believe these coaches are jokes than go ahead. All I know is the coaches that I have mentioned earlier has won a Super Bowl.


look at the list I compiled: Ditka, Switzer, Seifert, Schramm, etc... they all won superbowls. I'm not saying that they're all bad coaches. I'm saying that there are clearly better coaches who haven't won superbowls... Therefore, counting Superbowls obviously isn't the best way to define quality when discussing Head Coaches in the NFL.

TexansRockMySocks
06-02-2005, 10:54 PM
WTH :confused:

Just stop man, please just stop.

Boss, i am on the Debate team and i am willing to stay right here until i get an answer. Now stop trying to side-step the issue and if you are so sure on you don't even have to debate this anymore, then you could obviously back everything up right?! Well you are yet to show that, and therefore i'll take it as you don't know what you got yourself into and the brilliant minds here on this board made you realize your boy Koren is a chump.

LikeABoss
06-02-2005, 10:54 PM
Ok, im done... Time to get some sleep. Yo Socks, have fun debating with this guy lol. :goodnight

I'm out too, bout to play some XBOX Live.

Peace people, it was fun :cool:

DRIFTAWAY
06-02-2005, 10:57 PM
Boss, i am on the Debate team and i am willing to stay right here until i get an answer. Now stop trying to side-step the issue and if you are so sure on you don't even have to debate this anymore, then you could obviously back everything up right?! Well you are yet to show that, and therefore i'll take it as you don't know what you got yourself into and the brilliant minds here on this board made you realize your boy Koren is a chump.

Now thats how you end it. The kid did it again. :deadhorse :goodnight

vtech9
06-02-2005, 11:13 PM
Now thats how you end it. The kid did it again. :deadhorse :goodnight
:rofl: I have been laughing so hard at how the kid has handled Boss lol:, that I haven't been able to post. Besides, Socks basically said what alot of us already think, so there really wasn't any need for me to say anything. Great job Socks.

lord_helmet
06-03-2005, 03:52 AM
Boss, i am on the Debate team and i am willing to stay right here until i get an answer. Now stop trying to side-step the issue and if you are so sure on you don't even have to debate this anymore, then you could obviously back everything up right?! Well you are yet to show that, and therefore i'll take it as you don't know what you got yourself into and the brilliant minds here on this board made you realize your boy Koren is a chump.

Thats the bottom line - Ko-Ro is a bum

ATX
06-03-2005, 04:02 AM
koren in houston would just be a corey bradford part 2. we just have to be patient. we got gaffney, bradford, armstrong, and mathis. one of these guys will eventually be our #2. i'm still sticking with gaffney stepping up big this year and becoming our #2.

GoPats
06-03-2005, 08:01 AM
Koren was about to pick himself up, actually...

... and then he dropped himself.

TopTexanFan16
06-03-2005, 08:49 AM
Cause the organization was tired of his acts, it wasn't because he was not productive.

Why would he be any better here in Houston bringing the attitude he has?.....if seatlle didnt wan him cause he was uncontrolable Houston wouldnt be much better.

Vambo, the Marble Eye
06-03-2005, 09:03 AM
With some of this stuff being said here I wonder why do we draft ANYBODY? If we follow the pathways of some of the thoughts posted on this board... Kyle Turley and now K. Robinson?

I suppose we should try to get Charles Manson to visit the houses of the opposing team the night before a game and call him a defensive specialist. Did I mention that Koren Robinson KILLED ME in fantasy football for the last two years? :crying:

Lucky
06-03-2005, 09:11 AM
I suppose we should try to get Charles Manson to visit the houses of the opposing team the night before a game and call him a defensive specialist.
If Manson is released, I promise you there will be a thread asking whether the Texans should pick him up. :bag:

infantrycak
06-03-2005, 10:27 AM
If Manson is released, I promise you there will be a thread asking whether the Texans should pick him up. :bag:

Accompanied by moaning fans wishing Capers and Palmer would just open up the offense so we could see Manson slashing through the secondary.

Davis37
06-03-2005, 12:16 PM
Accompanied by moaning fans wishing Capers and Palmer would just open up the offense so we could see Manson slashing through the secondary.

lol good one :highfive:

Mr Shush
06-06-2005, 10:07 AM
Actually, I prefer the idea of hiring Harold Shipman to treat the visiting team's injured players . . .