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TexansFanatic
10-15-2012, 01:24 PM
How about a thread dedicated to blatantly rationalizing last night's debacle?

Last year the New York Giants were throttled in a 49-24 embarrassment administered by the New Orleans Saints. That was a road game for the Giants but the final spread was a full touchdown larger than what we saw last night.

Anyone got any other examples?

TexanSam
10-15-2012, 01:29 PM
They didn't win the Super Bowl, but the 2008 Cardinals lost 48-20 against the Eagles and 47-7 against the Patriots. Both away games though.

The 2006 Colts lost 44-17 to the Jaguars while the Bears that year lost 31-13 to the Dolphins.

utahmark
10-15-2012, 01:36 PM
Bills beat the Patriots 31 to 0 in 2003. New England went on to go 14 and 2 and win the superbowl.

toronto
10-15-2012, 01:41 PM
I won't look back but I am pretty confident the last two NYG teams that won the SB had tons of losses that had their fans wondering if they'd even make he playoffs, let alone win it all. Both teams lost at least 6 games and their HC was fired in the media in both seasons.

76Texan
10-15-2012, 01:42 PM
Last year, the Redskins beat the Giants twice 28-10 and 23-10.

The Skins went 3-11 against the rest of the league.

The second loss to the Skins had the Giants at 7-7 and seemingly out of the picture for the play-offs.

ThaShark316
10-15-2012, 01:44 PM
I won't look back but I am pretty confident the last two NYG teams that won the SB had tons of losses that had their fans wondering if they'd even make he playoffs, let alone win it all. Both teams lost at least 6 games and their HC was fired in the media in both seasons.

You don't even need to search for a rout with NYG from last year. Losing 23-10 at home to the Redskins was awful.

ThaShark316
10-15-2012, 01:45 PM
Last year, the Redskins beat the Giants twice 28-10 and 23-10.

The Skins went 3-11 against the rest of the league.

The second loss to the Skins had the Giants at 7-7 and seemingly out of the picture for the play-offs.

Beat me to it.

I watched that 2nd game...that was some of the worst football I had seen the Giants play in a VERY long time.

76Texan
10-15-2012, 01:49 PM
In 07, the Giants was trashed by an 8-8 Vikings team 17-41

Dutchrudder
10-15-2012, 01:51 PM
They didn't win the Super Bowl, but the 2008 Cardinals lost 48-20 against the Eagles and 47-7 against the Patriots. Both away games though.

The 2006 Colts lost 44-17 to the Jaguars while the Bears that year lost 31-13 to the Dolphins.

That game was played while it was snowing in Foxboro. Can't really fault a team being unprepared for that too much. That team was really good though, and I was pulling for them to beat the Steelers.

ThaShark316
10-15-2012, 01:57 PM
That game was played while it was snowing in Foxboro. Can't really fault a team being unprepared for that too much. That team was really good though, and I was pulling for them to beat the Steelers.

They had already won the division, too.

And in that SB, I know I thought Zona would win after that long TD with Fitzgerald.

Double Barrel
10-15-2012, 02:47 PM
In 2003, the year the Super Bowl was played at Reliant, the Texans played both teams during the regular season (at Reliant).

They beat the Panthers that season 14-10, and took the Patriots to overtime where they lost 23-20.

That was the second year of the Texans existence and they went 5-11 for the season. Good teams lose to bad teams all the time.

drs23
10-15-2012, 04:34 PM
In 2003, the year the Super Bowl was played at Reliant, the Texans played both teams during the regular season (at Reliant).

They beat the Panthers that season 14-10, and took the Patriots to overtime where they lost 23-20.

That was the second year of the Texans existence and they went 5-11 for the season. Good teams lose to bad teams all the time.

Quite true DB, though I don't consider GB a "bad team". They got hosed in Seattle in prime time. Like's been said in other threads, their back was against the wall, and they wanted it more. And they took it.

Double Barrel
10-15-2012, 05:04 PM
Quite true DB, though I don't consider GB a "bad team". They got hosed in Seattle in prime time. Like's been said in other threads, their back was against the wall, and they wanted it more. And they took it.

Oh, I don't, either. I was telling a few of my family members last week to not underestimate GB. Their 2-3 record did not mean anything. This is a team with a likely HoF QB, 15-1 record last year, and just a season removed from winning a Super Bowl.

My main point in my previous post was in the spirit of this thread, i.e. good teams losing to bad teams. We've seen it as Texans fans. Heck, I remember the first time we beat Indy, 2006 with David Carr on Christmas Eve, and they went on to win the Super Bowl.

But yeah, there is nothing to be ashamed of when losing to a good team. Although, I would say there is some shame in HOW they lost to that team last night.

Thorn
10-15-2012, 05:07 PM
They had a bad game, obviously their heads (from the coaches on down) weren't into the game. That's correctable. We've seen them whip butt before, they can do it again. And frankly, I'm glad if this loss get's it out of their system (whatever "it" was). If you're gonna lose a game, a non-conferance game is the one to lose.

Double Barrel
10-15-2012, 05:09 PM
They had a bad game, obviously their heads (from the coaches on down) weren't into the game. That's correctable. We've seen them whip butt before, they can do it again. And frankly, I'm glad if this loss get's it out of their system (whatever "it" was). If you're gonna lose a game, a non-conferance game is the one to lose.

yep. I told my son before the Monday game against the Jets to not be surprised if they lost one out of the next two.

I asked him which game he'd lose if he had to pick, and he said the Packers for that same reason. Plus, neither of us likes the Jets, and since we'd never beaten them, it seemed like a no-brainer.

I think that game drained them, and they probably rested on the hype from a mental standpoint. GB had to win that game or go 2-4 in a division that is looking tough, so they had a lot more to lose and a lot to proven going into it.

paycheck71
10-15-2012, 05:36 PM
Philadelphia Eagles 40 at San Francisco 49ers 8
Sunday, October 2, 1994

LINK (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/199410020sfo.htm)

Oh, and Kubiak was the QB coach of that team.

Cerberus
10-15-2012, 06:55 PM
Last year, the Redskins beat the Giants twice 28-10 and 23-10.

The Skins went 3-11 against the rest of the league.

The second loss to the Skins had the Giants at 7-7 and seemingly out of the picture for the play-offs.

I personally wouldn't count inter-division rivalries in the equation, because most teams build their team to compete 1st and foremost within their division, then within their conference, and then for inter-conference play.

Scooter
10-15-2012, 07:29 PM
we got destroyed by the packers
packers gave up an 18 point lead in a loss to the colts
49ers got killed by the giants
giants were whooped on opening day
ravens uglied it up against the chiefs
patriots are 3-3
seattle's being handed games and still has 2 losses


everybody's got a game so far that they didnt bother showing up for. only the falcons have been able to squeak out games that they werent at their best so far.

michaelm
10-15-2012, 08:11 PM
In 1985, the 12-0 Chicago Bears played the 8-4 Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins handed the Bears the only defeat of their championship season 38-24.

IIRC, the Bears defense gave up less than 13 points per game that year, including the 38 given up in the Dolphins game.

PandapuffTexan
10-15-2012, 08:31 PM
getting your butt handed to in regular season can really expose hidden faults..if patched u by playoffs can really push team over hump

Fili
10-15-2012, 09:14 PM
I don't see how this loss affects our super bowl chances. This team need to be humbled. They haven't lost since last years playoff game and now they know what it tastes like. Looking back at it I'd rather have a few loses during the season than go undefeated into the playoffs and lose. Look at the '07 Patriots for example.

Mr teX
10-15-2012, 09:54 PM
Im just glad its out of the way....our first loss that is.....though i could've done without the national embarassing fashion in which we recieved it.

BullNation4Life
10-15-2012, 11:02 PM
we got destroyed by the packers
packers gave up an 18 point lead in a loss to the colts
49ers got killed by the giants
giants were whooped on opening day
ravens uglied it up against the chiefs
patriots are 3-3
seattle's being handed games and still has 2 losses


everybody's got a game so far that they didnt bother showing up for. only the falcons have been able to squeak out games that they werent at their best so far.

and they never show up for the playoffs.... So all is right with the world...

MEGA SWATT
10-15-2012, 11:06 PM
This has to motivate the Texans to prove everyone that they are for real. I mean, JimRome saying the Texans were exposed and some other Jack Ass saying the Texans are a fraud- Man, if that does not motivate you - not sure what will.

I mean, we played a Jets team that was coming off an embarrassing loss and for the first time - we didn't win by 20 points and almost lost that game. Green Bay comes in after an embarrassing loss to the colts and probably sick of answering questions about what is wrong with them and sick of hearing about the 5-0 Texans (and falcons).

Now, we have to go take it to the Ravens like GB did to us. GB reverted to their Superbowl selves and we reverted to the 2010 and earlier Texans.

worldlyman
10-16-2012, 02:18 AM
In 1985, the 12-0 Chicago Bears played the 8-4 Miami Dolphins. The Dolphins handed the Bears the only defeat of their championship season 38-24.

IIRC, the Bears defense gave up less than 13 points per game that year, including the 38 given up in the Dolphins game.


That game was a spectacle, alright. Mark Duper and Mark Clayton...Dan Marino, they really aired it out on the Bears. Watched that one as a teen on Monday Night, I believe.

There was also when the Pittsburgh Steelers (who would go on to beat the L.A. Rams later on in the Super Bowl at the conclusion of the 1979-80 season)...got their butts handed to them 35-7 by Dan Fouts, Woodrow Lowe and the San Diego Chargers. I mean, the Steelers got their heads handed to them in that game. Also, during that season, the lowly Cincinnati Bengals thrashed the Steelers 34-10!

The Oakland Raiders, winners of the Super Bowl the following year...got severely manhandled by Joe Cribbs and the Buffalo Bills, 24-7, in Week 4 of the 1980 NFL campaign.

In recent times, the Steelers who won the Super Bowl 2005-06 season, got drubbed by the Indy Colts, 26-7 in Week 12.

Hookem Horns
10-16-2012, 03:03 AM
Last year's NY Giants who just won the Super Bowl ...

Midseason lost 4 games in a row highlighted by a 49-24 thrashing by the New Orleans Saints.

The Giants did have some key injuries on defense during the stretch.

That said as one who follows the Giants also I have to say that I don't have the same confidence in the Texans as I do the Giants for 2 big reasons. Gary Kubiak and Matt Schaub.

When the chips are down I have all of the confidence in the world in both Coughlin and Manning, especially in close games. Kubiak and Schaub ... not so much.