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nero THE zero
09-26-2012, 12:08 PM
@AdamSchefter: As @mortreport is reporting, an agreement between NFL and NFLRA is at hand

TexanSam
09-26-2012, 12:08 PM
:doot:

:doot:

:doot:

chicagotexan2
09-26-2012, 12:10 PM
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4toq6jHEK1qhz0jz.gif

Playoffs
09-26-2012, 12:11 PM
http://www.georgiafastbreakclub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/gomer-surprise-thumb.jpg

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 12:14 PM
I need a confirmation. Great news if true.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Pet%20Funny%20Misc/Voldemorts_36d102c88edf07f46de0447edc974389.jpg

nero THE zero
09-26-2012, 12:20 PM
I need a confirmation. Great news if true.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Pet%20Funny%20Misc/Voldemorts_36d102c88edf07f46de0447edc974389.jpg

https://twitter.com/mortreport
https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 12:21 PM
https://twitter.com/mortreport
https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk

I mean a real confirmation, but thanks!! :)

gwallaia
09-26-2012, 12:22 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v155/gwallaia/tumblr_ma0evu2nMo1ry10fwo1_500.gif

TexanSam
09-26-2012, 12:23 PM
I mean a real confirmation, but thanks!! :)

Chris Morteson hasn't posted anything on twitter, but he wrote this article for ESPN earlier. No done deal yet, but it looks close.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8427652/locked-nfl-referees-return-early-week-sources

The NFL and the NFL Referees Association made enough progress in negotiations Tuesday night that the possibility of the locked-out officials returning in time to work this week's games has been discussed, according to sources on both sides.

An agreement in principle is at hand, according to one source familiar to talks, although NFL owners have postured with a "no more compromise" stance.

Although league sources said it would take a week to get the locked-out officials on the field, the NFLRA says its 121 referees have been trained on the new rules implemented last season, have already passed physicals or are prepared to pass physicals immediately. New official game uniforms designed by Nike are "hardly an obstacle," according to a source.

Both sides have made concessions on previous sticking points such as a taxi squad of 21 new officials and pension plans that sources say the final meaningful hurdle is, as one source said, "about a little more money."

While league sources say owners who participated in a conference call with commissioner Roger Goodell during Tuesday's talks had instructed the negotiating team to set a firm barrier for the financial settlement, the NFLRA is prepared to accept a new agreement primarily in the form of a "ratification bonus," which would compensate its 121-member union for concessions it is willing to make.

The NFLRA and the league have all but agreed on developing a 21-member "taxi squad" that Goodell has pushed, but not at the financial cost of the union members.

brakos82
09-26-2012, 12:24 PM
http://i.imgur.com/x6ud2.jpg

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 12:25 PM
Chris Morteson hasn't posted anything on twitter, but he wrote this article for ESPN earlier. No done deal yet, but it looks close.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8427652/locked-nfl-referees-return-early-week-sources

Appreciate it, Sam. (I didn't even bother to look seeing it was twitter :lol:)

I'm on ESPN now and they are poised to break, but are still showing what your link says.

TheMatrix31
09-26-2012, 12:27 PM
I bet we'll be stuck with that ****head Mike Carey this weekend.

TexanSam
09-26-2012, 12:31 PM
I bet we'll be stuck with that ****head Mike Carey this weekend.

Better this weekend than against a team that poses an actual challenge.

gtexan02
09-26-2012, 12:41 PM
Thank goodness. I always felt bad complaining too much about the replacements because they were put into a tough situation Now we can finally get back to bitching about the real refs and about how horrible they are without feeling sorry for them

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 12:44 PM
Thank goodness. I always felt bad complaining too much about the replacements because they were put into a tough situation Now we can finally get back to bitching about the real refs and about how horrible they are without feeling sorry for them

:lol:

rep if I could.

toronto
09-26-2012, 12:48 PM
:lol:

rep if I could.

I got him. Zing.

The Pencil Neck
09-26-2012, 12:51 PM
Thank goodness. I always felt bad complaining too much about the replacements because they were put into a tough situation Now we can finally get back to bitching about the real refs and about how horrible they are without feeling sorry for them

msr

Bleed_Blu_Red
09-26-2012, 01:08 PM
ESPN's Chris Mortensen is reporting that an agreement between the NFL and NFLRA is at hand.

With a deal in principle reached Wednesday morning, the regular officials could be back as soon as this week. All it took was one of the worst calls in league history in front of a national audience on Monday Night Football. The issue will hopefully be put to bed now.

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter Sep 26 - 12:20 PM

jaayteetx
09-26-2012, 01:09 PM
Already a thread on this...

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 01:15 PM
Green Bay station pokes fun at the NFL with replacement weatherman. :D

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-green-bay-tv-station-pokes-fun-at-nfl-with-a-replacement-weather-guy-20120926,0,7426120.story

Premier
09-26-2012, 01:20 PM
chris mortensen is an espn reporter, dismissing his twitter feed based simply on the fact that its twitter is pure ignorance.

Dutchrudder
09-26-2012, 01:31 PM
I bet we'll be stuck with that ****head Mike Carey this weekend.

I would think that the replacement refs will still be doing the games this week. A while back the NFL announced that they had already scheduled them through week 5.

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 01:34 PM
chris mortensen is an espn reporter, dismissing his twitter feed based simply on the fact that its twitter is pure ignorance.

I'm asking for confirmation. Is it confirmed like the thread says?? No.

Have ESPN reporters been wrong on twitter before? Absolutely.

I accept an actual confirmation from the NFL, not freaking CM on twitter.

I'm old school that way, I know better than to believe today's "journalists" at their word.

RazorOye
09-26-2012, 01:40 PM
Peter King ‏@SI_PeterKing

I'm hearing NFLRA negotiator Scott Green has notified officials that a deal is not imminent. Stay tuned, obviously.

Stemp
09-26-2012, 01:53 PM
Apparently they worked out the training and development of new and fill-in refs, but the pension is still an issue. Reportedly, some hard-line owners got involved late.

Showtime100
09-26-2012, 02:02 PM
Apparently they worked out the training and development of new and fill-in refs, but the pension is still an issue. Reportedly, some hard-line owners got involved late.

That's what they need to change. They need the owners out of the equation. If it was that way all along the NFL wouldn't be in this position.

I wonder if Bud Adams flew in the room on a power chair shooting double birdies at the regular refs.

brakos82
09-26-2012, 02:09 PM
Green Bay station pokes fun at the NFL with replacement weatherman. :D

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-green-bay-tv-station-pokes-fun-at-nfl-with-a-replacement-weather-guy-20120926,0,7426120.story
Always wanted to be in a thunderblizzardhurricane. LOL

CloakNNNdagger
09-26-2012, 02:11 PM
The taxi squad compromise is just a spit in the bucket stick point compared to the benefits package that the NFL is has still not agreed to. One week may be too soon to expect the regular refs back on the field........unless some of Vegas crime bosses decide to break a couple of knee caps.

Nawzer
09-26-2012, 10:15 PM
Good to hear that they are close to returning. Enjoy all the adulation while it lasts regular zebras. It'll last about 5 mins and everything will return to normal and we'll go back to hating all refs again.

DexmanC
09-26-2012, 10:30 PM
Shows how much the fans, coaches, and players love the real refs,
no matter all the complaining we do about them.

Welcome back Ed Hochuli, Jerome Boger, Mike Carey, and Jeff
Triplette. You guys were sorely missed, and it will be nice to
see a well-managed NFL game again.

steelbtexan
09-26-2012, 10:38 PM
Shows how much the fans, coaches, and players love the real refs,
no matter all the complaining we do about them.

Welcome back Ed Hochuli, Jerome Boger, Mike Carey, and Jeff
Triplette. You guys were sorely missed, and it will be nice to
see a well-managed NFL game again.

I cant stand Ed (Gun Show) Hochuli

Jerome (Ladies Man) Boger

Jeff (Bean Bag) Triplete.

Carey is the only honest/not incompetent ref of the bunch.

The regular refs will be back fixing games again soon. Vegas took a bath Monday night.

Ryan
09-26-2012, 10:40 PM
Shows how much the fans, coaches, and players love the real refs,
no matter all the complaining we do about them.

Welcome back Ed Hochuli, Jerome Boger, Mike Carey, and Jeff
Triplette. You guys were sorely missed, and it will be nice to
see a well-managed NFL game again.



You had me excited until Jerome Boger. :kubepalm:

CloakNNNdagger
09-26-2012, 10:53 PM
Daopoulos: NFL, NFLRA deal is done (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/26/daopoulos-nfl-nflra-deal-is-done/)
Posted by Mike Florio on September 26, 2012, 10:44 PM EDT

NBC picked the right year to hire an officiating consultant.

Jim Daopoulos, a long-time official and supervisor of officials, joined NBC this season. And he tells PFT that the NFL and NFL Referees Association have signed a new deal.

A crew is being assembled to work Thursday night’s game between the Browns and Ravens. Then, on Friday, the officials will travel to Dallas to retrieve their equipment and receive their game assignments for Sunday and Monday, with the same crews working together as last year.

Details are still not clear, but Daopoulos says that the much-debated pension issue was resolved with the current defined-benefit plan remaining in place for five years before switching to a 401(k)-style defined contribution plan.

Also, it’s believed that the deal will cover five more years before this one, which means that we’ll potentially be doing this again in 2018.

Porky
09-26-2012, 10:57 PM
Yes!

:hurrah: :handshake: :bravo:

Jackie Chiles
09-26-2012, 11:08 PM
Dang it, I thought those replacements were doing one heck of a job!!!

:cricket:

Khari
09-26-2012, 11:14 PM
Daopoulos: NFL, NFLRA deal is done (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/26/daopoulos-nfl-nflra-deal-is-done/)
Posted by Mike Florio on September 26, 2012, 10:44 PM EDT

Yays! Does the happy dance!

:bender:

TexanSam
09-26-2012, 11:49 PM
I cant stand Ed (Gun Show) Hochuli

Jerome (Ladies Man) Boger

Jeff (Bean Bag) Triplete.

Carey is the only honest/not incompetent ref of the bunch.

The regular refs will be back fixing games again soon. Vegas took a bath Monday night.

You'd prefer the replacement refs? After watching 3 weeks of foot locker refs screwing up calls, I think it's pretty obvious that no matter how much we as fans love to ***** at the regular refs, they're much more competent than what we've seen so far this season.

Stemp
09-26-2012, 11:59 PM
It's officially official,the officials are back!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066725/article/nfl-referees-union-closing-in-on-agreement-to-end-lockout?campaign=Facebook_writers_breer

ChampionTexan
09-27-2012, 12:13 AM
The regular refs will be back fixing games again soon. Vegas took a bath Monday night.

I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from. What makes you think they "took a bath"? Everything I'm reading and hearing says that Vegas actually benefitted from the outcome, as a clear majority of the betting public was on the Packers.

The Seattle Seahawks’ controversial win over the Green Bay Packers on Monday night was unquestionably a winner for Las Vegas, but it wasn’t as big of payday for the books as some believed.
Jeff Sherman, assistant manager at the SuperBook, said 85 percent of the tickets at his book were on Green Bay and estimates the statewide handle at $15 million. The handle is the total amount wagered on the game—in straight bets, over/unders, parlays, teasers, etc. The Seahawks’ 14-12 win resulted in what Sherman characterized as a “six-figure” swing in favor of the book. (bolding added for emphasis)

LINK (http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-09-25/packers-seahawks-final-play-las-vegas-betting-replacement-refs)

michaelm
09-27-2012, 01:11 AM
Daopoulos: NFL, NFLRA deal is done (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/26/daopoulos-nfl-nflra-deal-is-done/)
Posted by Mike Florio on September 26, 2012, 10:44 PM EDT

I like this one from the comments section:

"Oh goody, the Packers, Steelers, and Patriots are getting their pet zebras back!"

gg no re
09-27-2012, 01:15 AM
http://i.imgur.com/2NqUD.gif

brakos82
09-27-2012, 03:07 AM
http://i.imgur.com/vXAE0.jpg

Fili
09-27-2012, 07:26 AM
Feels like Christmas morning!

TheMatrix31
09-27-2012, 07:31 AM
Ew, I forgot about Jerome Boger. That guy sucks too.

Trying to think of the refs I like the most. For some reason Corrente stands out.

Playoffs
09-27-2012, 07:32 AM
Good.

Now we can get back to hating the referees like before.

Showtime100
09-27-2012, 07:34 AM
Now owners can go back to doing what they do best.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Pet%20Funny%20Misc/truckers.jpg

TimeKiller
09-27-2012, 09:32 AM
Sad to see a billion dollar corporation fold under pressure. I guess they didn't mind throwing the replacements under the bus after all. Didn't even wait a week or two just to stick up for them.

:shrug:

Oh well. Back to our regularly scheduled ****ing up of the rules.

GlassHalfFull
09-27-2012, 09:40 AM
I wonder how popular Goodell is with the owners right now.

2 years, 2 essentially failed lockouts.

Stemp
09-27-2012, 09:57 AM
I wonder how popular Goodell is with the owners right now.

2 years, 2 essentially failed lockouts.

Failed? How were they failed? Both the players and the refs gave in more than the owners according to all the pundits. The owners "won" both times.

Hell, they refs pension is still going to be turned into a 401k, just in 5 years. This will save the league a ton of money.

MojoMan
09-27-2012, 10:05 AM
It's officially official,the officials are back!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000066725/article/nfl-referees-union-closing-in-on-agreement-to-end-lockout?campaign=Facebook_writers_breer

Looks like the owners pretty much had their way with the officials by the terms of the final deal. From the article linked above:

The league released the following terms of the agreement:

» The current defined benefit pension plan will remain in place for current officials through the 2016 season (or until the official earns 20 years of service). The defined benefit plan then will be frozen.

» Retirement benefits will be provided for new hires, and for all officials beginning in 2017, through a defined contribution arrangement, which will have two elements: an annual league contribution made on behalf of each game official that will begin with an average of more than $18,000 per official and increase to more than $23,000 per official in 2019, and a partial match on any additional contribution that an official makes to his 401(k) account.

» Apart from their benefit package, the game officials' compensation will increase from an average of $149,000 per year in 2011 to $173,000 in 2013, rising to $205,000 by 2019.

» Beginning with the 2013 season, the NFL will have the option of hiring a number of officials on a full-time basis to work year-round, including on the field.

» The NFL will have the option to retain additional officials for training and development purposes and can assign those additional officials to work NFL games. The number of additional officials will be determined by the NFL.

SheTexan
09-27-2012, 10:16 AM
Glad it's over, but, greed win's out again! Our Vegas owned refs should be happy campers today. I can't get the old saying "be careful what you wish for" out of my head. But, guess things will at least be back to "normal" on the football field.

Cerberus
09-27-2012, 10:44 AM
Ew, I forgot about Jerome Boger. That guy sucks too.

Trying to think of the refs I like the most. For some reason Corrente stands out.

Good.

Now we can get back to hating the referees like before.

Just f'ing great. Now it is back to biased refs instead of incompetent refs. Personally, I like incompetence, because when they screwed you at least you knew it wasn't personal against the team.

http://www.provencehome.org/refsuck/pages/history.html

Take for example the FG that was questioned recently. Did the ball go over the upright? Damn replacement refs, right? Well look at this one:

Week 16 - Cardinals @ 49ers: With the Cardinals leading 20-13 early in the 4th quarter, Arizona kicker Niel Rackers connected on a 37 yard field goal that appeared to be wide as it passed over the left upright. Niners head coach Mike Nolan wanted to challenge the play but was told a field goal was not reviewable because the officials underneath the uprights presumably have the best view. Couldn't that be said about almost any replay situation? Again, perhaps it's time to consider scrapping the entire replay system. The purpose of replay supposedly is to correct mistakes by the officials, but more and more it's a joke. Some plays are reviewable, some are not.

The calls made after replay often do not coincide with the visual evidence. Coaches are often screwed out of timeouts on bad replay calls. Simply put, the current replay system sucks.

Showtime100
09-27-2012, 10:48 AM
I think tonight and Sunday we are going to see long games due to flags again. The players, OL's and CB's especially, are going to have to re-adjust their game to the full grown zebras.

With the replacements they were getting away with murder in comparison to the the regular refs.

Double Barrel
09-27-2012, 04:26 PM
I thought this was a good article that y'all would appreciate:

New appreciation: Replacement refs provide a glimpse into how good actual NFL officials are

Ed Hochuli had a classic reaction to hearing rumors he would be going back to work as an NFL referee.

He started doing push-ups, according to the NFL Network.


Ed Hochuli and his fellow referees will be back to work Thursday after a three-month lockout. (AP)Football fans will chuckle at this, as "Hochules" is well-known for his buff physique. He does an hour of cardio and an hour of weights four times a week, even at age 62. But behind the jokes is a very serious truth that makes his workout routine appropriate for the moment: Hochuli and his fellow officials have broken the will of the NFL in large part because of their underestimated ability to prepare, prepare, prepare.

Full story (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--new-appreciation--replacement-refs-provide-a-glimpse-into-how-good-actual-nfl-officials-are.html)

axman40
09-27-2012, 05:43 PM
"We're sorry to have to put our fans through that,” Goodell said on a Thursday afternoon conference call with reporters from around the country.
The news Wednesday night that the replacements will be replaced by the real officials, who have come to terms with the owners on a new labor deal, was met with waves of online high-fives from fans and media. In reality, with the exception of one game, the incompetence displayed by the replacements -- and the sheer hubris of the owners in allowing the farce to continue for 48 regular-season games -- likely will be forgotten.
But that one exception -- the Seahawks (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/SEA/seattle-seahawks) “win” against the Packers (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/teams/page/GB/green-bay-packers) on Monday Night Football -- will live on forever.
And though Goodell said the results from that game didn't directly influence the agreement that occurred just TWO days later (by the way, he also said this regarding M.D. Jennings (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1137321/md-jennings)' supposed interception of Russell Wilson (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1272242/russell-wilson): "There are controversial calls and people see them differently") he also seemed to realize the missed call that could have far-reaching postseason effects wasn't such a positive moment either.
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/blog/eye-on-football/20386120/goodell-apologizes-to-fans-for-ref-dispute-defends-replacements
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DexmanC
09-27-2012, 07:53 PM
Bring back Johnnie Greer.

That guy was the best ref the NFL ever had. It seems like he was a part
of every big game they show on ESPN Classic.