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DexmanC
09-25-2012, 12:09 PM
Times are looking good.

http://fanrankings.nfl.com/results/experts

MojoMan
09-25-2012, 12:12 PM
Texans rule!*

{* - at least for this week}

DX-TEX
09-25-2012, 12:43 PM
Doomed!!!

texanhead08
09-25-2012, 12:44 PM
Doomed!!!


This makes me nervous

Malloy
09-25-2012, 12:56 PM
This is SO going to my head!! :)

Thorn
09-25-2012, 12:56 PM
It's nice, but it doesn't help us against the Titans this weekend. It won't buy us any points with those stupid blind unbelievably dumb replacement refs. If we beat the Titans this Sunday like we should, those horrid ESPN announcers will be insufferable duing our Monday night game.

Corrosion
09-25-2012, 12:58 PM
Talk to me in January. :trophy:

Malloy
09-25-2012, 01:02 PM
It's nice, but it doesn't help us against the Titans this weekend. It won't buy us any points with those stupid blind unbelievably dumb replacement refs. If we beat the Titans this Sunday like we should, those horrid ESPN announcers will be insufferable duing our Monday night game.

I just realized that both of our Monday Night games this year is away... that really suck :(

Thorn
09-25-2012, 01:05 PM
I just realized that both of our Monday Night games this year is away... that really suck :(

Five prime time games this year, and only one of those in Reliant.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
09-25-2012, 01:07 PM
Like many on this board, I've been watching this team since the inception. While this is the best I have seen the Texans, I can help the feeling the other shoe is going to drop. I'm glad to get the press, but I'm also a little nervous about it.

ObsiWan
09-25-2012, 01:08 PM
Times are looking good.

http://fanrankings.nfl.com/results/experts

Soooo how much ARE we charging for :koolaid:bandwagon tickets:koolaid: now days??

...and be sure and tell these bozos :clown: our bandwagon tickets are NON-REFUNDABLE!

The Pencil Neck
09-25-2012, 01:33 PM
It's nice, but it doesn't help us against the Titans this weekend. It won't buy us any points with those stupid blind unbelievably dumb replacement refs. If we beat the Titans this Sunday like we should, those horrid ESPN announcers will be insufferable duing our Monday night game.

On the other hand, these refs are calling a lot of stuff for the home team and, I think, shifting the games slightly in the home team's favor.

5 of our next 7 games are home games.

So. Maybe. That could be a good thing.

DexmanC
09-25-2012, 04:25 PM
Five prime time games this year, and only one of those in Reliant.

At least that one game is on Sunday Night Football, and the first time
we get the best broadcast treatment at Reliant.

SwoLy-D
09-25-2012, 04:31 PM
Talk to me in January. :trophy:February 3, 2013? :cool:
Five prime time games this year, and only one of those in Reliant.We could have FLEX. :)

ThaShark316
09-25-2012, 04:32 PM
Like many on this board, I've been watching this team since the inception. While this is the best I have seen the Texans, I can help the feeling the other shoe is going to drop. I'm glad to get the press, but I'm also a little nervous about it.

The Oilers POISONED this city. :(

417Texan
09-25-2012, 04:59 PM
I cannot believe the success of HOuston and only 1 sunday nite game.

SCOTTexans
09-25-2012, 05:07 PM
What makes me even happier is that the rest of our division is within the bottom 8 teams....:koolaid:

Dutchrudder
09-25-2012, 05:13 PM
I cannot believe the success of HOuston and only 1 sunday nite game.

Umm, we have two Sunday night games (Packers and @Bears), two Monday night games (@NYJ, @Patriots), and a Thanksgiving game at the Lions. I think that's a pretty good increase over last year's one prime time game on Thursday night football.

SCOTTexans
09-25-2012, 05:16 PM
Umm, we have two Sunday night games (Packers and @Bears), two Monday night games (@NYJ, @Patriots), and a Thanksgiving game at the Lions. I think that's a pretty good increase over last year's one prime time game on Thursday night football.

Thats too many Monday night games.... I need to get cable. :rake:

Dutchrudder
09-25-2012, 05:28 PM
Thats too many Monday night games.... I need to get cable. :rake:

Better hurry up then, first Texans MNF game is October 8 @NYJ. Could always go to a bar and watch it though.

SCOTTexans
09-25-2012, 05:43 PM
Better hurry up then, first Texans MNF game is October 8 @NYJ. Could always go to a bar and watch it though.

And i know just the spot... :drunk:

RagingBull
09-25-2012, 07:18 PM
Texans are the only AFC in the top 7+ on all of those...

Brisco_County
09-25-2012, 07:27 PM
I'm going to strut around the sports bars in Austin acting like a total dick now.

Norg
09-25-2012, 07:52 PM
look at our AFCS buddies wayyy down there hopefully it will stay that way

The Pencil Neck
09-25-2012, 11:09 PM
I'm going to strut around the sports bars in Austin acting like a total dick now.

And this is different from what you normally do... how, exactly?


:tiphat:

paycheck71
09-25-2012, 11:37 PM
I cannot believe the success of HOuston and only 1 sunday nite game.

Yeah, let's start whining again.. Or actually, let's never stop... Because we're not among 2-3 teams picked to go to the SB from AFC. Unbelievable.

Oh, and Texans have 5 prime time games this year, the maximum number allowed per team.

paycheck71
09-25-2012, 11:38 PM
Thats too many Monday night games.... I need to get cable. :rake:

Aren't home team cable games also simulcast on a local broadcast channel? Channel 13, maybe?

SCOTTexans
09-25-2012, 11:50 PM
Aren't home team cable games also simulcast on a local broadcast channel? Channel 13, maybe?

Nope... but that would be nice

Edit: Just found out they are... Didn't know that

Brisco_County
09-25-2012, 11:51 PM
And this is different from what you normally do... how, exactly?


:tiphat:

Now I also have a reason to do it when sober.

paycheck71
09-26-2012, 12:02 AM
Nope... but that would be nice

Don't know how accurate the wiki page is, but FWIW

LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Local_simulcasting_of_cable_game s)


Local simulcasting of cable games
To maximize TV ratings, as well as to protect the NFL's ability to sell TV rights collectively, games televised on ESPN or the NFL Network are simulcast on a local broadcast station in each of the primary markets of both teams (the Green Bay Packers have two primary markets, Green Bay and Milwaukee, a remnant of when they played some home games in Milwaukee each season, see below). This station does not need to have affiliate connections with a national broadcaster of NFL games. Stations who are the affiliates of MyNetworkTV or The CW (and, in at least one case, an independent station[22]) have out bid more established local broadcasters in some markets. However, the home team's market must be completely served by the station and that broadcast can only air if the game is sold out within 72 hours of kick-off (see below).
On November 8, 1987, the very first NFL game ever aired on ESPN was played between the New England Patriots and New York Giants. Technically, the game was only simulcast in the Boston market, with a separate broadcast produced for the New York market by ESPN sister property WABC-TV – at the time, WABC's union contract prohibited non-union workers (like those of ESPN) from working on live events broadcast on the station. This marked the only time since the AFL-NFL merger that a regular season game was locally produced for TV. The WABC broadcast featured WABC's own Corey McPherrin doing play-by-play, and Frank Gifford and Lynn Swann from Monday Night Football doing color commentary.

HJam72
09-26-2012, 12:40 AM
Attention Dallas and Fort Worth viewers, we interrupt this broadcast of your Cowboys game to show....the best football team in Texas. :texflag:

GuerillaBlack
09-26-2012, 01:42 AM
Aren't home team cable games also simulcast on a local broadcast channel? Channel 13, maybe?

Yeah they are, both MNF and TNF.

ThaShark316
09-26-2012, 02:44 AM
Aren't home team cable games also simulcast on a local broadcast channel? Channel 13, maybe?

They are.

You'll see Texans/Jets and Texans/Pats on one of these local channels. The Colts game was on CW last year....

DX-TEX
09-26-2012, 03:17 AM
http://pro32.ap.org/poll

Even Berman ranked us #1.:kubepalm:

KA4Texan
09-26-2012, 07:22 AM
Attention Dallas and Fort Worth viewers, we interrupt this broadcast of your Cowboys game to show....the best football team in Texas. :texflag:

Thing is Texans are better than the Cowboys NO MATTER what condition the Texans are in.

I would rather be punched and kicked in my happy parts repeatedly than even pretend to be a Cowboys fan.

No matter how "Good" the Cowboys have been...... or ever might possibly be in the future...(Ugh that tasted like bile)... they SUCK!

Even before inception and after that previous team of ours left...... the Cowboys still fell way short of being the best team in Texas. :)

MojoMan
09-26-2012, 08:58 AM
John McClain spoils the party, ranking the Texans #2 in his power rankings:

McClain: Texans are rising, but they’re not No. 1 yet (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/mcclain-texans-are-rising-but-they%E2%80%99re-not-no-1-yet/)

HJam72
09-26-2012, 09:11 AM
I think some people are just harder on "their" team than any other team, and McClain is one of those people. We beat Atlanta with Yates last December. Yes, I know they've probably gotten better. So have the Texans. Truth is the Texans are the best team in the NFL right now, but it's scary to say it, because you think about the LOOOOOOOOOOOONG road to the Superbowl...

Dutchrudder
09-26-2012, 09:22 AM
John McClain spoils the party, ranking the Texans #2 in his power rankings:

McClain: Texans are rising, but they’re not No. 1 yet (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/mcclain-texans-are-rising-but-they%E2%80%99re-not-no-1-yet/)

That's OK, nobody really takes him seriously anyways. Sounds like a desperate cry for attention, because he knows that new young lady the Chronicle hired will have his job in the next year or two.

HJam72
09-26-2012, 09:24 AM
That's OK, nobody really takes him seriously anyways. Sounds like a desperate cry for attention, because he knows that new young lady the Chronicle hired will have his job in the next year or two.

That too. His act was old a long time ago.

Premier
09-26-2012, 09:31 AM
Umm, we have two Sunday night games (Packers and @Bears), two Monday night games (@NYJ, @Patriots), and a Thanksgiving game at the Lions. I think that's a pretty good increase over last year's one prime time game on Thursday night football.

even jim nantz said that sundays game against the broncos was the first time the texans were featured in the national double header game.. thats almost like a primetime game since the entire nation was being broadcasted the texans.

Big Lou
09-26-2012, 10:31 AM
John McClain spoils the party, ranking the Texans #2 in his power rankings:

McClain: Texans are rising, but they’re not No. 1 yet (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/mcclain-texans-are-rising-but-they%E2%80%99re-not-no-1-yet/)

Yeh, he's trying to make it look like he's not partial. I would prefer that Houston stay under the radar, it was nice when it was all San Fran this and San Fran that, but McLame is bieng silly.

SwoLy-D
09-26-2012, 10:32 AM
I h8 McClain. :mad:even jim nantz said that sundays game against the broncos was the first time the texans were featured in the national double header game.. thats almost like a primetime game since the entire nation was being broadcasted the texans.Not really. :)

http://the506.com/nflmaps/2012/wk3.html

But... close to the "entire nation."

SCOTTexans
09-26-2012, 10:36 AM
Don't know how accurate the wiki page is, but FWIW

LINK (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NFL_on_television#Local_simulcasting_of_cable_game s)

Thats awesome... learn new things everyday

Premier
09-26-2012, 10:38 AM
Fake John McClain>>>> John McClain

ObsiWan
09-26-2012, 10:56 AM
John McClain spoils the party, ranking the Texans #2 in his power rankings:

McClain: Texans are rising, but they’re not No. 1 yet (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/mcclain-texans-are-rising-but-they%E2%80%99re-not-no-1-yet/)

I have to say he makes a decent point - if you put down the koolaid and take the homer glasses off for a sec.
All other things being equal (and they kinda are), a 24-pt road victory over a 2-0 team trumps a 6-pt road victory over a 1-1 team.

After all... Power Rankings are just some :clown:'s opinion

Playoffs
09-26-2012, 11:00 AM
First week it was the Packers...

Then the Patriots,

Then the 49ers,

Now the Texans are the flavor-of-the-week. Pfft.


That and $2.01 will get you a cup of Starbucks coffee. http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b297/GHGecko/ANI_GIFs/TINYs/Smiley_Tiny_Drinking_Coffee.gif

TexansFanatic
09-26-2012, 11:06 AM
I have to say he makes a decent point - if you put down the koolaid and take the homer glasses off for a sec.
All other things being equal (and they kinda are), a 24-pt road victory over a 2-0 team trumps a 6-pt road victory over a 1-1 team.

After all... Power Rankings are just some :clown:'s opinion

Dead on. Dang it, I keep wanting to rep you.

MSR :mad:

Playoffs
09-26-2012, 11:07 AM
Dead on. Dang it, I keep wanting to rep you.

MSR :mad:Got him for you.

HollaIFyaHEMI
09-26-2012, 11:16 AM
John McClain spoils the party, ranking the Texans #2 in his power rankings:

McClain: Texans are rising, but they’re not No. 1 yet (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/mcclain-texans-are-rising-but-they%E2%80%99re-not-no-1-yet/)

McClain is a joke. Yeah, rank them behind the team they beat with TJ Yates at QB last year.

The Pencil Neck
09-26-2012, 11:19 AM
I have to say he makes a decent point - if you put down the koolaid and take the homer glasses off for a sec.
All other things being equal (and they kinda are), a 24-pt road victory over a 2-0 team trumps a 6-pt road victory over a 1-1 team.

After all... Power Rankings are just some :clown:'s opinion

I'd like to point out that the Falcons played the Broncos IN ATLANTA and beat them by 6 points. We played the Broncos in Denver and beat them by 6 points.

Not that it means anything because there are too many variables at play and too many random chance things BUT if you're going to compare two teams that haven't played each other, you might as well look at common opponents as your measuring stick.

TexansFanatic
09-26-2012, 11:32 AM
Got him for you.

Thanks! And I got you. ;-)

thunderkyss
09-26-2012, 01:05 PM
It's nice, but it doesn't help us against the Titans this weekend. It won't buy us any points with those stupid blind unbelievably dumb replacement refs. If we beat the Titans this Sunday like we should, those horrid ESPN announcers will be insufferable duing our Monday night game.

You keep saying things like this. It's not like the Texans are going to line up one day & whip out their power ranking to scare the other team.

Everything has a place & a purpose. The Power rankings are to generate conversation & they've always done this. That's what we are doing now.

It's like Wrestling. It's not real, but it is real entertaining (to some).

Thorn
09-26-2012, 01:12 PM
You keep saying things like this. It's not like the Texans are going to line up one day & whip out their power ranking to scare the other team.

Everything has a place & a purpose. The Power rankings are to generate conversation & they've always done this. That's what we are doing now.

It's like Wrestling. It's not real, but it is real entertaining (to some).

The bolded part I agree with. I said before it's nice to be thought of so highly, and it sure is different for us. I like seeing the Texans rated number 1 in the league, it means for once we are getting national respect.

But respect means nothing, only wins. What's REALLY nice is to have respect and wins both.

ObsiWan
09-26-2012, 02:25 PM
I'd like to point out that the Falcons played the Broncos IN ATLANTA and beat them by 6 points. We played the Broncos in Denver and beat them by 6 points.

Not that it means anything because there are too many variables at play and too many random chance things BUT if you're going to compare two teams that haven't played each other, you might as well look at common opponents as your measuring stick.

while this comparison makes :headhurts:
I think I know where you're going.

Personally, I would put the Cards at #1, the Falcons at #2a and us at #2b. I'd put the Cards at #1 because, as Playoffs kinda hinted at, the team on top of the rankings has lost the subsequent week. So I'm good with us staying at #2. ...all season long...
:D

TejasTom
09-26-2012, 09:00 PM
McClain meant to hit 1 on the keyboard but had chicken fat on his fingers and it slid over to the 2.

thunderkyss
09-27-2012, 09:41 AM
But respect means nothing, only wins. What's REALLY nice is to have respect and wins both.

All in due time. So far, they're 3 for 3, holding up their end of the deal.

thunderkyss
09-27-2012, 09:47 AM
while this comparison makes :headhurts:
I think I know where you're going.

Personally, I would put the Cards at #1, the Falcons at #2a and us at #2b. I'd put the Cards at #1 because, as Playoffs kinda hinted at, the team on top of the rankings has lost the subsequent week. So I'm good with us staying at #2. ...all season long...
:D

I think we put too much of a focus on wins. I know that's what it's all about, but the best team doesn't always win. Seattle is not a better team than Green Bay. Minnesota is not a better team than San Francisco.

Just because Atlanta, Arizona, & Houston are undefeated, they are not the three best teams in football.

Baltimore, Houston, & San Francisco are the three best teams right now, imo, not necessarily in that order. Next week when Houston is 4-0, Baltimore, San Francisco, Atlanta, & Arizona are 3-1 I think more people will see it that way as well.



Ω

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 12:57 PM
I think we put too much of a focus on wins. I know that's what it's all about, but the best team doesn't always win. Seattle is not a better team than Green Bay. Minnesota is not a better team than San Francisco.



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Still going with this theme, I know a lot of people don't put much stock in power rankings at all. However, we all have an idea of who the best teams are & who the worst teams are.

If we were to wipe the slate clean, right now, the best teams in the league are

1) Denver Broncos
2) Green Bay Packers
3) New England Patriots
4) New Orleans Saints
5) Houston Texans
6) Atlanta Falcons
7) San Francisco 49ers
8) Baltimore Ravens
9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10) Minnesota Vikings/Indianapolis Colts/Seattle Seahawks

From what I'm seeing right now, the Bears won't make the play-offs. The Stealers won't make the play-offs. The Colts & Cincinnati will win the Wild-Cards in the AFC. The Saints & Tampa Bay will win the Wild-Cards in the NFC.

Hopefully the Broncos will see the Patriots in the play-offs before they see us. That way we'll only have to play one of them. I don't think we'll be able to beat both (just like I don't think the Broncos will survive both the Patriots & us, & the Patriots won't survive seeing Broncos & Us)

That's just the way I see it.

Allstar
11-25-2012, 01:16 PM
Still going with this theme, I know a lot of people don't put much stock in power rankings at all. However, we all have an idea of who the best teams are & who the worst teams are.

If we were to wipe the slate clean, right now, the best teams in the league are

1) Denver Broncos
2) Green Bay Packers
3) New England Patriots
4) New Orleans Saints
5) Houston Texans
6) Atlanta Falcons
7) San Francisco 49ers
8) Baltimore Ravens
9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10) Minnesota Vikings/Indianapolis Colts/Seattle Seahawks

From what I'm seeing right now, the Bears won't make the play-offs. The Stealers won't make the play-offs. The Colts & Cincinnati will win the Wild-Cards in the AFC. The Saints & Tampa Bay will win the Wild-Cards in the NFC.

Hopefully the Broncos will see the Patriots in the play-offs before they see us. That way we'll only have to play one of them. I don't think we'll be able to beat both (just like I don't think the Broncos will survive both the Patriots & us, & the Patriots won't survive seeing Broncos & Us)

That's just the way I see it.

The Patriots look much better than the Broncos, IMO. That's not even taking into account the spanking Brady gave them. Also, New Orleans' defense is still terrible, I don't think they are better than any top team.

Thorn
11-25-2012, 01:51 PM
If the Texans defense doesn't get healthy soon, we won't be going to the super bowl. We can't survive the playoffs sending out 3rd string LBs.

TexansFanatic
11-25-2012, 01:56 PM
If the Texans defense doesn't get healthy soon, we won't be going to the super bowl. We can't survive the playoffs sending out 3rd string LBs.

I said the very same thing to a friend of mine just a couple of days ago. Can't keep giving up over 30 points to weak opponents and expect to be able to beat the best teams in the playoffs.

Thorn
11-25-2012, 02:05 PM
I said the very same thing to a friend of mine just a couple of days ago. Can't keep giving up over 30 points to weak opponents and expect to be able to beat the best teams in the playoffs.

Detroit has a pretty good QB and Calvin Johnson, so I'm not overly shocked at that. But Jacksonville did shock me.

BullBlitz
11-25-2012, 02:10 PM
If the Texans defense doesn't get healthy soon, we won't be going to the super bowl. We can't survive the playoffs sending out 3rd string LBs.

Agree. The defense looks more vulnerable every week, and Watt looks more containable (though not totally) with double teams on him.

dalemurphy
11-25-2012, 02:11 PM
Still going with this theme, I know a lot of people don't put much stock in power rankings at all. However, we all have an idea of who the best teams are & who the worst teams are.

If we were to wipe the slate clean, right now, the best teams in the league are

1) Denver Broncos
2) Green Bay Packers
3) New England Patriots
4) New Orleans Saints
5) Houston Texans
6) Atlanta Falcons
7) San Francisco 49ers
8) Baltimore Ravens
9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10) Minnesota Vikings/Indianapolis Colts/Seattle Seahawks

From what I'm seeing right now, the Bears won't make the play-offs. The Stealers won't make the play-offs. The Colts & Cincinnati will win the Wild-Cards in the AFC. The Saints & Tampa Bay will win the Wild-Cards in the NFC.

Hopefully the Broncos will see the Patriots in the play-offs before they see us. That way we'll only have to play one of them. I don't think we'll be able to beat both (just like I don't think the Broncos will survive both the Patriots & us, & the Patriots won't survive seeing Broncos & Us)

That's just the way I see it.


That's a reasonable list. However, who knows what that list will look like in a month... Also, the Texans, because of how well they played early, will have the advantage of home field, a week off, and the option of resting players down the stretch. All of those factors can be significant.

I'd add that the defensive struggles have given the offense an opportunity to become more balanced and gain confidence in its dropback passing game.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 02:21 PM
That's a reasonable list. However, who knows what that list will look like in a month... Also, the Texans, because of how well they played early, will have the advantage of home field, a week off, and the option of resting players down the stretch. All of those factors can be significant.

I'd add that the defensive struggles have given the offense an opportunity to become more balanced and gain confidence in its dropback passing game.

I agree with your comment about the view a month from now. It's also doubtful that we'll lose 3 games out of the next 5. But if we lose 2, & Baltimore wins out, we won't have homefield.

Nix that, the Ravens won't beat Washington or Denver. If we beat New England we'll get HF throughout

TexansFanatic
11-25-2012, 02:31 PM
I agree with your comment about the view a month from now. It's also doubtful that we'll lose 3 games out of the next 5. But if we lose 2, & Baltimore wins out, we won't have homefield.

Nix that, the Ravens won't beat Washington or Denver. If we beat New England we'll get HF throughout

Ha! You edited before I could respond.

The Ravens, I think, have the toughest schedule remaining. I wouldn't have picked the Skins to beat them (it is an away game though), but they will have tough games against the Chargers, the Broncos, a second game against the Steelers, and at the Giants.

TEXANRED
11-25-2012, 03:08 PM
Still going with this theme, I know a lot of people don't put much stock in power rankings at all. However, we all have an idea of who the best teams are & who the worst teams are.

If we were to wipe the slate clean, right now, the best teams in the league are

1) Denver Broncos
2) Green Bay Packers
3) New England Patriots
4) New Orleans Saints
5) Houston Texans
6) Atlanta Falcons
7) San Francisco 49ers
8) Baltimore Ravens
9) Tampa Bay Buccaneers
10) Minnesota Vikings/Indianapolis Colts/Seattle Seahawks

From what I'm seeing right now, the Bears won't make the play-offs. The Stealers won't make the play-offs. The Colts & Cincinnati will win the Wild-Cards in the AFC. The Saints & Tampa Bay will win the Wild-Cards in the NFC.

Hopefully the Broncos will see the Patriots in the play-offs before they see us. That way we'll only have to play one of them. I don't think we'll be able to beat both (just like I don't think the Broncos will survive both the Patriots & us, & the Patriots won't survive seeing Broncos & Us)

That's just the way I see it.

Couldn't disagree with you more. It is all about the wins. First round bye's and home field throughout the playoffs is what those W's are for.

We are head and shoulders better than the Bronco's so I don't get how you could put them #1. We beat them right?

The Patriots put up some numbers and terrible teams but big whoop. There is nothing about the patriots that scare me.

New Orleans? Really? C'mon man!

This list looks like you have been watching way too much BSPN.

Top three teams in the AFC, Texans, Ravens, Patriots, in that order. And the Broncos? Over-rated.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 03:16 PM
Couldn't disagree with you more. It is all about the wins. First round bye's and home field throughout the playoffs is what those W's are for.

We are head and shoulders better than the Bronco's so I don't get how you could put them #1. We beat them right?

The Patriots put up some numbers and terrible teams but big whoop. There is nothing about the patriots that scare me.

New Orleans? Really? C'mon man!

This list looks like you have been watching way too much BSPN.

Top three teams in the AFC, Texans, Ravens, Patriots, in that order. And the Broncos? Over-rated.

This is about who is playing the best right now (Denver is laying an egg right now so that's hurting my argument). This is not about restating the standings.

The New York Giants & Green Bay Packers could go deep into the play-offs & win the Super Bowl because they got hot & were playing better football than the other teams at that time.

We started off better than the Patriots & the Broncos. We beat the Broncos before they started clicking. But right now (actually before today's games started) they are playing better ball than we are. I'm not too sure we'll beat New England on the road & I wouldn't put money on us beating the Broncos at home.

Baltimore is not playing well & have a tough schedule to go. I guarantee they will fall in the standings before it's all said & done.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 03:17 PM
The real question for Texans fans, is "Have we Peaked?"

Hopefully the answer is no, but it's looking like we have.

Thorn
11-25-2012, 03:24 PM
The real question for Texans fans, is "Have we Peaked?"

Hopefully the answer is no, but it's looking like we have.

It only looks that way because we're missing damn near half our starting defense on the field. If somehow they can all come back (except Cushing of course) before our first playoff game, I very much like our chances of getting to the Super Bowl. We can do it without Cushing, but I don't believe we can if we can't get back the others on our defense.

klockWork
11-25-2012, 03:38 PM
He said if the slate was wipe, meaning W-L don't matter. It's whose playing all-around top-notch right now.

Here's my list

1) 49ers
2) Pats
3) Broncos
4) Packers
5) Saints

Texans offensive outburst was against two very weak defense. No way we win that game against Bears if Cutler's stay healthy. Bears left a lot of plays on the field with drop passes. Backup QB Henne carve us up.

The only way Texans gets on my list is if they play an ALL-AROUND great game against Titans and Pats.

ThaJokaa
11-25-2012, 03:53 PM
Lions are a top 15 D were top 10 before we played em, lol at weak ^^

Look at the Broncos game right now, still think theyre doing good

klockWork
11-25-2012, 04:03 PM
368 total offense by Broncos. D didn't allow TD. They won on the road. It was a solid ALL-AROUND game, not great but ALL-AROUND solid.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 04:13 PM
Lions are a top 15 D were top 10 before we played em, lol at weak ^^

Look at the Broncos game right now, still think theyre doing good

Brady Quin did not score 31 points.

However, Broncos definitely took a hit in my power ranking. I put them up high on the strength of their defense which I think did not show up today. Probably sleeping on the Chiefs, yet managed to get it done. Their D just didn't look as bad as our D has the last two games.

ThaJokaa
11-25-2012, 04:15 PM
On the 1-9 Chiefs... It shouldve been a blow out

TexansFanatic
11-25-2012, 04:21 PM
On the 1-9 Chiefs... It shouldve been a blow out

The CBS crew was just speaking about this very thing. Shannon Sharpe, who played for the Broncos for many years, said he could speak from experience that the Chiefs will play you tough when they're at home no matter what their record is. Also, the Chiefs lost a lot of games, but they're not the worst team in the league in terms of their stats --- more middle of the pack.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 04:22 PM
On the 1-9 Chiefs... It shouldve been a blow out

And our shoot-out against the 1-8 Jags should have been what? To the wire? OT?

Thorn
11-25-2012, 04:30 PM
Even with our defense as banged up as it is, I think we can take the Titans next week. But Monday nights game in New England isn't shaping up very well. We need our defense to be in good shape to beat Brady an company.

TEXANRED
11-25-2012, 06:21 PM
He said if the slate was wipe, meaning W-L don't matter. It's whose playing all-around top-notch right now.

Here's my list

1) 49ers
2) Pats
3) Broncos
4) Packers
5) Saints

Texans offensive outburst was against two very weak defense. No way we win that game against Bears if Cutler's stay healthy. Bears left a lot of plays on the field with drop passes. Backup QB Henne carve us up.

The only way Texans gets on my list is if they play an ALL-AROUND great game against Titans and Pats.
OK now this is just getting silly. The best team in the NFL would be the Texans. You think the best team in the NFL would tie the Rams?

The only team on this list that I would even consider being better is Green Bay.

It's not how many points you win by its if you win. This team has had everything and the kitchen sink thrown at them and all they do is keep winning. No other team in the NFL can say that.

Texn4life
11-25-2012, 06:29 PM
When did the NFL become the BCS? This entire argument is silly in my book.

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 07:25 PM
When did the NFL become the BCS? This entire argument is silly in my book.

If the play-offs were to start today, the Steelers would be in. The Ravens would be in & so would the Colts.

The Giants, Bears, & Seahawks would be going for the NFC.

There are 5 games left, do you think the play-off picture will remain the same?

I don't. I don't think the current W-Ls tell us who the best teams are. I think the Saints will make the play-offs. I don't think the Giants will win their division & I think Tampa Bay will make the play-offs.

My whole point in bringing up this thread, was to illustrate if the power rankings were done correctly, the Saints would be higher than the Giants. Tampa Bay would be higher than Seattle. There would actually be several teams "ranked" better than their record. Several teams "ranked" worse than their record. I think the final standings will show that.

TEXANRED
11-25-2012, 07:34 PM
If the play-offs were to start today, the Steelers would be in. The Ravens would be in & so would the Colts.

The Giants, Bears, & Seahawks would be going for the NFC.

There are 5 games left, do you think the play-off picture will remain the same?

I don't. I don't think the current W-Ls tell us who the best teams are. I think the Saints will make the play-offs. I don't think the Giants will win their division & I think Tampa Bay will make the play-offs.

My whole point in bringing up this thread, was to illustrate if the power rankings were done correctly, the Saints would be higher than the Giants. Tampa Bay would be higher than Seattle. There would actually be several teams "ranked" better than their record. Several teams "ranked" worse than their record. I think the final standings will show that.

The Saints are not making the playoffs. They are about to drop to 5-6. The Giants are better than the Redskins, so yes, the Giants will win their division. And for Tampa to make the playoffs would say that Seattle doesn't. I see the Wild Cards being the Seahawks/Redskins.

PapaL
11-25-2012, 07:34 PM
If the play-offs were to start today, the Steelers would be in. The Ravens would be in & so would the Colts.

The Giants, Bears, & Seahawks would be going for the NFC.

There are 5 games left, do you think the play-off picture will remain the same?

I don't. I don't think the current W-Ls tell us who the best teams are. I think the Saints will make the play-offs. I don't think the Giants will win their division & I think Tampa Bay will make the play-offs.

My whole point in bringing up this thread, was to illustrate if the power rankings were done correctly, the Saints would be higher than the Giants. Tampa Bay would be higher than Seattle. There would actually be several teams "ranked" better than their record. Several teams "ranked" worse than their record. I think the final standings will show that.

Who do you have winning the NFC East if not the Giants?

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 07:40 PM
Who do you have winning the NFC East if not the Giants?

The Redskins. The Giants will lose tonight. The 'skins are going up. The Giants are coming down.


They play each other next week. If the skins beat the Giants They'll be tied at 6-6 with 4 games to go.

Texecutioner
11-25-2012, 07:51 PM
The Redskins. The Giants will lose tonight. The 'skins are going up. The Giants are coming down.


They play each other next week. If the skins beat the Giants They'll be tied at 6-6 with 4 games to go.

I wouldn't count out the Giants at all just yet. Especially when they are in the division that they are. They're still in the mix easily. That team doesn't have to have a great record to win that division and they damn sure don't have to have have one to make me feel that their a SB contender. That team plays up to their opponent a lot, but when they knuckle down and go all out, they're as dangerous as anyone. The Giants are very much still alive even if they lose tonight.

coltfan123
11-25-2012, 10:05 PM
thats why giants are raping the packers...giants winning division...

thunderkyss
11-25-2012, 10:23 PM
thats why giants are raping the packers...giants winning division...

Yeah, I think I missed wide on that one.

EllisUnit
11-25-2012, 10:32 PM
thought it was the AFC that was weak, looking at all the teams records and who they have lost to it looks like the AFC is stronger than the NFC IMO

TEXANRED
11-25-2012, 10:36 PM
Yeah, I think I missed wide on that one.

Like a Shayne Grahm game winning FG attempt.

TexansFanatic
11-25-2012, 10:48 PM
Yeah, I think I missed wide on that one.

This is what Coughlin's Giants do. They lull you to sleep with their little swoons here and there over the course of the season, and then **BOOM** they come back to life.

thunderkyss
11-26-2012, 01:23 AM
This is what Coughlin's Giants do. They lull you to sleep with their little swoons here and there over the course of the season, and then **BOOM** they come back to life.

Their defense was definitely on point today.

ObsiWan
11-26-2012, 01:48 AM
It only looks that way because we're missing damn near half our starting defense on the field. If somehow they can all come back (except Cushing of course) before our first playoff game, I very much like our chances of getting to the Super Bowl. We can do it without Cushing, but I don't believe we can if we can't get back the others on our defense.

People better listen to this. The defense Wade has to send out on the field now is just a mere shell of what we had when we beat Manning and the Broncos with earlier this year.

Those who keep singing the song that we need both units to play solid to be a serious Super Bowl team ought to be seriously concerned.

I know I am.



As an aside, that slug fest against the Jags doesn't look so improbable any more, does it? Henne at QB makes them a better team. Maybe we shouldn't have knocked Gabbert out.

SAMURAITEXAN
11-26-2012, 01:59 AM
People better listen to this. The defense Wade has to send out on the field now is just a mere shell of what we had when we beat Manning and the Broncos with earlier this year.

Those who keep singing the song that we need both units to play solid to be a serious Super Bowl team ought to be seriously concerned.

I know I am.



As an aside, that slug fest against the Jags doesn't look so improbable any more, does it? Henne at QB makes them a better team. Maybe we shouldn't have knocked Gabbert out.
Jags did beat Titans. Doesn't mean much but Titans do have a little better record than Jags. So, with Henne, Jags are seems to be a little better off.

EllisUnit
11-26-2012, 07:43 AM
People better listen to this. The defense Wade has to send out on the field now is just a mere shell of what we had when we beat Manning and the Broncos with earlier this year.

Those who keep singing the song that we need both units to play solid to be a serious Super Bowl team ought to be seriously concerned.

I know I am.



As an aside, that slug fest against the Jags doesn't look so improbable any more, does it? Henne at QB makes them a better team. Maybe we shouldn't have knocked Gabbert out.

i dont think 3 bad games makes this defense bad as a lot think. i think the 8 good games should be taken into consideration. 8 out of 11 are pretty good odds IMO

ajohnson80
11-26-2012, 08:23 AM
I feel there are 4 teams that are capable of having the most dominate performances both offensively and defensively. Giants, 49ers, Texans, and Broncos have passed my eye test and are legit superbowl contenders.

I leave the Patriots off because their defense should hurt them against these teams, and Brady has been rattled in the past by teams that get pressure. Atlanta seems to have all the pieces, a great record, and very consistent performances, but I haven't seen them elevate their game to the same level these other teams have.

thunderkyss
11-26-2012, 08:33 AM
I feel there are 4 teams that are capable of having the most dominate performances both offensively and defensively. Giants, 49ers, Texans, and Broncos have passed my eye test and are legit superbowl contenders.


Agreed

I was just thinking the Giants were running out of gas. They proved me wrong last night.


I leave the Patriots off because their defense should hurt them against these teams, and Brady has been rattled in the past by teams that get pressure. Atlanta seems to have all the pieces, a great record, and very consistent performances, but I haven't seen them elevate their game to the same level these other teams have.

The Patriots can score points in bunches, plus they have the 6th rank running offense which should help out their defense. & while their defense struggle, I believe they have the highest turnover differential. +28 last I saw.

The Falcons have the 16th ranked defense & 28th running offense. Not a good formula.

76Texan
11-27-2012, 04:30 PM
Texans rank #1 on by NFL.com experts and fans alike.

Also I noted that Texans games against the Lions and Jags were rated the highest by the fans.

And BTW, Foster is nominated for the FedEx Ground Game again.

Exascor
11-27-2012, 04:36 PM
Texans rank #1 on by NFL.com experts and fans alike.

Also I noted that Texans games against the Lions and Jags were rated the highest by the fans.

And BTW, Foster is nominated for the FedEx Ground Game again.FWIW - Fox has the Texans ranked #2 behind the 8-2-1 49ers.

76Texan
11-27-2012, 04:51 PM
FWIW - Fox has the Texans ranked #2 behind the 8-2-1 49ers.

Yeah, saw that. They're the only one of the major media that did not rank us at #1.

Bspn, CBS, profootballtalk all rank the Texans #1

76Texan
11-27-2012, 04:55 PM
So did Profootball weekly

thunderkyss
11-27-2012, 05:01 PM
And BTW, Foster is nominated for the FedEx Ground Game again.

I thought that was a great game for Foster. 20 carries 5 yards a clip.

Thank God Forsett also had a good game & plays to the whistle. :kitten:

JCTexan
11-27-2012, 05:01 PM
If the play-offs were to start today, the Steelers would be in. The Ravens would be in & so would the Colts.

The Giants, Bears, & Seahawks would be going for the NFC.

There are 5 games left, do you think the play-off picture will remain the same?

I don't. I don't think the current W-Ls tell us who the best teams are. I think the Saints will make the play-offs. I don't think the Giants will win their division & I think Tampa Bay will make the play-offs.

My whole point in bringing up this thread, was to illustrate if the power rankings were done correctly, the Saints would be higher than the Giants. Tampa Bay would be higher than Seattle. There would actually be several teams "ranked" better than their record. Several teams "ranked" worse than their record. I think the final standings will show that.

I think the Bengals will make it over the Steelers. The Bears, Packers and Giants I see as locks in the NFC. So that leaves one spot left. New Orleans has a tough remaining schedule (@ATL, @NYG, @DAL, TB), so I don't see them making it in. That leaves Seattle & Tampa Bay. TB is hot right now so I will say TB will make it in.

thunderkyss
11-27-2012, 05:02 PM
Yeah, saw that. They're the only one of the major media that did not rank us at #1.

Bspn, CBS, profootballtalk all rank the Texans #1

Which is good. Makes me think I'm giving Peyton too much credit. Shell-shocked maybe.

76Texan
11-27-2012, 05:10 PM
Which is good. Makes me think I'm giving Peyton too much credit. Shell-shocked maybe.

That guy is always dangerous.
I called the Broncos the dark horse before the season.
The Broncos have a pretty good defense and that makes for a lethal combination.
They play really fast, but I think our Zbs guys match up with them well.
And we have a secondary that can match up with their offensive threats really well also.

htownfan32
11-27-2012, 05:39 PM
Who would you rather take on in the playoffs, Manning or Brady?

DexmanC
11-28-2012, 12:09 PM
Who would you rather take on in the playoffs, Manning or Brady?

bofe.

drs23
11-28-2012, 12:15 PM
bofe.

Pardon my ignorance but what is bofe an acronym for?

Exascor
11-28-2012, 12:19 PM
Pardon my ignorance but what is bofe an acronym for?My brain translated that to "both". Could be wrong though. :headhurts:

drs23
11-28-2012, 01:22 PM
My brain translated that to "both". Could be wrong though. :headhurts:

Ah, an ebonicsnym then. Gotcha. :barman:

76Texan
11-28-2012, 01:55 PM
Ah, an ebonicsnym then. Gotcha. :barman:

The Dex's fingers must be a whole lot fatter than yours; the keyboard sequence just doesn't match :)

Dutchrudder
11-28-2012, 02:21 PM
Pardon my ignorance but what is bofe an acronym for?

Black Oppressing Facist European?

:kitten:

76Texan
11-28-2012, 03:01 PM
Black Oppressing Facist European?

:kitten:

I was thinking like Barf On Fart 'Em; who cares, we go with the guy we trust to run this system. Who's gonna say the other guys can be successful in ours? :chickendance:

DexmanC
11-28-2012, 03:12 PM
My brain translated that to "both". Could be wrong though. :headhurts:

You should be my interpretor when I speak at the U.N.

"Bofe" is an African American word meaning "both."

Example:

"Which do you think you'd have a good time with, Stacey Dash or
Golden Brooks? "

"Bofe uhm (both of them.)"

houstonspartan
11-28-2012, 07:09 PM
You should be my interpretor when I speak at the U.N.

"Bofe" is an African American word meaning "both."

Example:

"Which do you think you'd have a good time with, Stacey Dash or
Golden Brooks? "

"Bofe uhm (both of them.)"

Lol. Nice. Yep, "bofe uhm" is slang, and is usually spoken fast and quick, to emphasize the point.

Texan_Bill
11-28-2012, 07:47 PM
Who would you rather take on in the playoffs, Manning or Brady?

bofe.

I agree with Dex!

"To be the man, you need to beat the man" (or team). :howdy:

thunderkyss
11-28-2012, 07:54 PM
I agree with Dex!

"To be the man, you need to beat the man" (or team). :howdy:

Well right now "the man" is Big Blue. Defending Super Bowl Champs, so I could care less about playing those other chumps. As a matter of fact, I'd rather see the "sorry" Seahawks in the Super Bowl & not see "the man" at all.

b0ng
11-28-2012, 07:57 PM
Who would you rather take on in the playoffs, Manning or Brady?

Brady turns into Superman in the playoffs, whereas Manning is a lot more mortal in the post season, than he is in the regular season.

ajohnson80
11-28-2012, 08:37 PM
Brady turns into Superman in the playoffs, whereas Manning is a lot more mortal in the post season, than he is in the regular season.

I would take Manning but eli. Peyton is regular season goat. Eli is Brady's kryptonite.

run-david-run
11-28-2012, 08:53 PM
Brady turns into Superman in the playoffs, whereas Manning is a lot more mortal in the post season, than he is in the regular season.

Brady has been blown out of the play-offs at home twice in the last few years. New England hasn't won a SuperBowl since TO was complaining about McNabb.

run-david-run
11-28-2012, 08:54 PM
But to answer the question: I'll tell you next Tuesday morning.