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badboy
09-23-2012, 11:52 PM
Dang JJ looking pretty good.

The Pencil Neck
09-24-2012, 12:24 AM
He still found a way to muff one punt but he got it back.

I'm starting to think that our offense just didn't make use of his talents.

I was about to say that this is his best 3-game stretch to start the season in his career. But...

2010: 13 - 132 - 1
2012: 7 - 153 - 1

So it's pretty close so far to his 2010 production for us.

Corrosion
09-24-2012, 01:05 AM
He still found a way to muff one punt but he got it back.

I'm starting to think that our offense just didn't make use of his talents.

I was about to say that this is his best 3-game stretch to start the season in his career. But...

2010: 13 - 132 - 1
2012: 7 - 153 - 1

So it's pretty close so far to his 2010 production for us.

His brain didnt comprehend the offense .... he's in a simple situation now where all he has to do is use his athletic ability .... and not think.


OC:Jacoby run a fly pattern
Jacoby: Whats that coach ?!
OC: Damnit Jacoby just run as fast as you can .... thattaway (OC points to make sure he understands) and if you are open , try to catch it.
Jacoby: Ok , I think I ...
OC: You dont get paid to think , just bleeping RUN.

Soon as that dude starts thinking ... the springs in his clockwerk .... get sprung.

Wolf6151
09-24-2012, 04:05 AM
He still found a way to muff one punt but he got it back.

I'm starting to think that our offense just didn't make use of his talents.

I was about to say that this is his best 3-game stretch to start the season in his career. But...

2010: 13 - 132 - 1
2012: 7 - 153 - 1

So it's pretty close so far to his 2010 production for us.

Being cut by a team and finding yourself unemployed has a tendency to make you focus more on your job when you get a new chance with another team. I still think Jacobies biggest problem is a lack of maturity. Remember a Zebra don't change his stripes, Jacoby will screw up in Baltimore.

Dutchrudder
09-24-2012, 01:16 PM
His brain didnt comprehend the offense .... he's in a simple situation now where all he has to do is use his athletic ability .... and not think.


OC:Jacoby run a fly pattern
Jacoby: Whats that coach ?!
OC: Damnit Jacoby just run as fast as you can .... thattaway (OC points to make sure he understands) and if you are open , try to catch it.
Jacoby: Ok , I think I ...
OC: You dont get paid to think , just bleeping RUN.

Soon as that dude starts thinking ... the springs in his clockwerk .... get sprung.

Seriously. I didn't see him do anything other than straight routes down the field on the outside. I guess Kubiak made the offense too complicated for him to understand. It appears the only route tree he is capable of learning is in the shape of a bamboo tree.

Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 01:19 PM
He played a good game. He's always had that in him.

But, verdict is out until we see a full season from the guy. And some of the plays need to be in pressure situations, as that seemed to be when his mistakes glared at us.

Joeycharp89
09-24-2012, 01:26 PM
I just think the Ravens offense is a better fit for him. Plus he's not being overshadowed by Andre Johnson now. He's seeing more targets, and he's running simple routes in a fast-paced no-huddle offense.

I think the thing that has surprised me the most is his hands. Punt returns aside, I don't think I've seen him drop a pass, and he's using his hands versus his body a lot more often.

Mr teX
09-24-2012, 01:35 PM
He looked good last night, but it's mainly b/c he's a true WR third option in their offense. Here, our 3rd options are primarily blockers. That & Flacco throws it up for grabs more than any other qb i've seen. If something happens with Boldin/Smith we'll see if his strips have truly changed when more is asked of him.

Dutchrudder
09-24-2012, 01:37 PM
Also, he muffed a punt towards the end of the game, but he was able to jump on it so it wasn't a turnover. That play made me feel really good about him not being a Texan anymore.

Playoffs
09-24-2012, 01:39 PM
Yet. Another. Weekly. Jacoby. Thread.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav0e43c1B1ryf487o1_500.jpg

Ryan
09-24-2012, 02:44 PM
Yet. Another. Weekly. Jacoby. Thread.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav0e43c1B1ryf487o1_500.jpg

I sense this is going to be the case any time he does anything.

Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 03:16 PM
Also, he muffed a punt towards the end of the game, but he was able to jump on it so it wasn't a turnover. That play made me feel really good about him not being a Texan anymore.

And Al Michaels was quick to mention a previous Jacoby Jones fumbled punt on that same field.

Seņor Stan
09-24-2012, 03:36 PM
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thanks for the ayatollah palm!

drunkcookie
09-24-2012, 03:38 PM
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Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 03:49 PM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/09/25/egeqegab.jpg

lol! Yeah, showboating an incomplete pass says it all.

badboy
09-24-2012, 04:32 PM
Yet. Another. Weekly. Jacoby. Thread.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav0e43c1B1ryf487o1_500.jpg

Yet you had to come in and post, didn't you? chuckle

Texecutioner
09-24-2012, 05:38 PM
He still found a way to muff one punt but he got it back.

I'm starting to think that our offense just didn't make use of his talents.

I was about to say that this is his best 3-game stretch to start the season in his career. But...

2010: 13 - 132 - 1
2012: 7 - 153 - 1

So it's pretty close so far to his 2010 production for us.

Classic overreaction here. The guy has played in 3 games so far. He hasn't set the league on fire. He played an atrocious secondary that has been bad for several years now.

Jacoby didn't take his job seriously here. He was a knucklehead that didn't work hard and refused to focus. He was kicked off the team through trade. Maybe that woke him up as it does other athletes. We'll see. But to criticize the Texans is simply not valid. They gave Jacoby way to many chances, and he shouldn't have ever gotten resigned.

PapaL
09-24-2012, 05:43 PM
I have a Ravens friend and I was telling him that Jacoby has good games here and there but when it's a big money game he mentally can't do it. Plus once he gets a case of the dropsies it takes him forever to move on from it.

He will cost you in a big game. Wait for it...

Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 05:59 PM
Classic overreaction here. The guy has played in 3 games so far. He hasn't set the league on fire. He played an atrocious secondary that has been bad for several years now.

Jacoby didn't take his job seriously here. He was a knucklehead that didn't work hard and refused to focus. He was kicked off the team through trade. Maybe that woke him up as it does other athletes. We'll see. But to criticize the Texans is simply not valid. They gave Jacoby way to many chances, and he shouldn't have ever gotten resigned.

yeah, you can't criticize the Texans. They were extremely patient with him and gave him more than a fair share of chances. They were on the verge of fan mutiny when he was finally cut.

I was arguing with a friend the other day that was dogging the Texans for not keeping Jason Babin. He wanted to argue that Babin was only on two other teams, so I looked it up to prove him wrong. He's been on 5 NFL teams.

You can't blame a team for giving up on a player that showed no signs of being what they might evolve into. Sometimes what makes a player better is getting cut and having to analyze themselves with a new team(s).

Texecutioner
09-24-2012, 06:35 PM
yeah, you can't criticize the Texans. They were extremely patient with him and gave him more than a fair share of chances. They were on the verge of fan mutiny when he was finally cut.

I was arguing with a friend the other day that was dogging the Texans for not keeping Jason Babin. He wanted to argue that Babin was only on two other teams, so I looked it up to prove him wrong. He's been on 5 NFL teams.

You can't blame a team for giving up on a player that showed no signs of being what they might evolve into. Sometimes what makes a player better is getting cut and having to analyze themselves with a new team(s).

Oh, I've heard that same garbage as well with Babin. This Eagles fan tried telling me I didn't know crap, because I told him not to get to excited about Babin after that one big season in Tennessee. He has played well in Philly, but Babin was another guy here who the Texans invested a lot into and were extremely patient with. Babin didn't work hard. Babin got paid a ton of money for being an early pick and didn't take his job seriously until "he had to" after being on several teams. Sometimes that's what it takes to wake a guy up. Hell, Randy Moss has had to have that happen to him twice in his career after the Raiders and that one season where the Pats dumped him and he landed on 3 teams and couldn't get signed last season. Now he is all of a sudden playing hard again. Like I told you before, I talked at length with a girl who grew up around Jacoby, and she told me that he has always been a piece of work. That was always my opinion of him while he was here. She just confirmed it. Maybe the guy has a good season, but even if so I wouldn't hold my breath on him keeping it up. He is wet behind the ears.

thunderkyss
09-24-2012, 08:43 PM
He looked good last night, but it's mainly b/c he's a true WR third option in their offense. Here, our 3rd options are primarily blockers. That & Flacco throws it up for grabs more than any other qb i've seen. If something happens with Boldin/Smith we'll see if his strips have truly changed when more is asked of him.

I think Jacoby will do fine in spot duty as a #2. We were asking him to go from #3 to #1 & he's not a #1, never will be. Torrey Smith will soon be the Ravens #1 (if he isn't already), Boldin will have to step up if Torrey misses a game.

Honestly, I can see Torrey & Jacoby being Baltimore's 1 & 2 two speedy mofos who can Yac... it will be reminescent of Harris & Wayne (not saying Jacoby will be as good as Wayne just noting the similarity of two speedy receivers on the outside)

thunderkyss
09-24-2012, 08:59 PM
He was a knucklehead that didn't work hard and refused to focus.

Got a link? From what I heard on the radio (Kalu & Foster) they said he worked very hard. Jacoby, Foster, & someone else would spend hours after practice working on the juggs machine & stuff like that.

I can't find it in print, yet, but I did find this (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/rising_star_arian_foster_staying_grounded/10731899).
Foster said he was especially close to wide receiver Jacoby Jones, released last week by the team. "He was one of my better friends on the team. He was like one of my brothers on the team," Foster said. "It hurts to see him go but he's going to have another opportunity in this league without a doubt. He's a very talented player. Both sides felt they needed to split ways and that's ok. "I'm going to miss him. I know his mother and his family well."

& this (http://blog.houstontexans.com/2011/12/02/jones-turns-up-jugs-machine-after-working-with-yates/)
After every Texans practice, wide receiver Jacoby Jones works on his hands by catching footballs from a JUGS machine with running back Arian Foster and fullback Lawrence Vickers. Jones typically sets the machine to launch passes at him at 30-35 miles per hour.

Texecutioner
09-24-2012, 11:15 PM
Got a link? From what I heard on the radio (Kalu & Foster) they said he worked very hard. Jacoby, Foster, & someone else would spend hours after practice working on the juggs machine & stuff like that.

I can't find it in print, yet, but I did find this (http://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/rising_star_arian_foster_staying_grounded/10731899).


& this (http://blog.houstontexans.com/2011/12/02/jones-turns-up-jugs-machine-after-working-with-yates/)

That was pretty much his reputation here for years. His volatile play on the field indicated that as well. You can find whatever positive article you want and I can as well, but I think the unreliability that Jacoby showed for years is the true indicator. He had talent, but he sure as hell didn't execute well.

Dutchrudder
09-25-2012, 12:47 AM
Jones typically sets the machine to launch passes at him at 30-35 miles per hour.

That's really slow, but might explain a lot. Brandon Weeden was clocked at throwing 60 MPH at the combine this year. Most QBs throw abut 50-55 MPH when properly stepping into a throw.

The Pencil Neck
09-25-2012, 11:55 AM
After every Texans practice, wide receiver Jacoby Jones works on his hands by catching footballs from a JUGS machine with running back Arian Foster and fullback Lawrence Vickers. Jones typically sets the machine to launch passes at him at 30-35 miles per hour.

Wait. What?

Last year when TJ came in, there was a quote from someone saying they had to turn the jugs machine up from 40mph to 45mph to simulate the increase in velocity between Matt and TJ.

But 30-35 mph? That's awful damned slow, isn't it?

417Texan
09-25-2012, 11:56 AM
Yet. Another. Weekly. Jacoby. Thread.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mav0e43c1B1ryf487o1_500.jpg



Jacoby is another dime a dozen NFL spare wideouts.