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CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2012, 09:08 AM
This VIDEO (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/0ap1000000064801/Playbook-Texans-vs-Broncos?module=HP11_content_stream) will get you revved up like a deuce!

ObsiWan
09-22-2012, 09:22 AM
I hope they're right.

b0ng
09-22-2012, 10:20 AM
I watched this last night live and it was magical. Baldinger's analysis of all the different plays we run out of the same formation was great and I think it shows just how far the offense has come.

Remember the days when we said as long as we had an even average defense we would go pretty far in the NFL. Those days are upon us now and thensome since the defense is probably better than the offense is now.

Pantherstang84
09-22-2012, 10:24 AM
I watched this last night live and it was magical. Baldinger's analysis of all the different plays we run out of the same formation was great and I think it shows just how far the offense has come.

Remember the days when we said as long as we had an even average defense we would go pretty far in the NFL. Those days are upon us now and thensome since the defense is probably better than the offense is now.

The same guy that picked Jville last week. He was the color commentator during the OSU and LA Monroe game last week and was still crowing about how the Jags were going to beat Houston. He's a tool.

DexmanC
09-22-2012, 10:46 AM
I'll never forget Baldinger chuckling at Mark Vandermeer a couple years
back when he was asked about the Texans' playoff chances (the interview
occurred near the end of the Texans 9-7 season.) Sterling Sharpe has ALWAYS
been a huge Texans' fan, and I'm sure he's glad the team doesn't embarrass
him every week like we once did.

It feels good the Texans are able to FORCE people to respect them now.
They still get less than 30 seconds of shine on ESPN, though.

b0ng
09-22-2012, 11:28 AM
I'll never forget Baldinger chuckling at Mark Vandermeer a couple years
back when he was asked about the Texans' playoff chances (the interview
occurred near the end of the Texans 9-7 season.) Sterling Sharpe has ALWAYS
been a huge Texans' fan, and I'm sure he's glad the team doesn't embarrass
him every week like we once did.

It feels good the Texans are able to FORCE people to respect them now.
They still get less than 30 seconds of shine on ESPN, though.

You have to admit, he was right to chuckle about the playoffs for the 2010 season though.

Carr Bombed
09-22-2012, 12:16 PM
The same guy that picked Jville last week. He was the color commentator during the OSU and LA Monroe game last week and was still crowing about how the Jags were going to beat Houston. He's a tool.

So you've never been wrong about anything before? Baldinger isn't a tool just because he picked the wrong horse.. he's picked Houston plenty of times in the past.

Pantherstang84
09-22-2012, 03:20 PM
So you've never been wrong about anything before? Baldinger isn't a tool just because he picked the wrong horse.. he's picked Houston plenty of times in the past.

I have been wrong before, but not on something as obvious as last week's game. Love ya some bent pinky if you want. Baldinger has always been a Texans hater. Has no credibility in my book.

drunkcookie
09-22-2012, 04:24 PM
Baldinger's analysis of all the different plays we run out of the same formation was great and I think it shows just how far the offense has come.


Yah...

Del Rio: Hey Joel, can i borrow you for a minute?

Dreesen: Sure, what's on your mind, coach?

Del Rio: Look at this formation...what plays do the Texans run out of this?

Dreesen: let's see...uhm...run right or left, pass short or deep, boot, reverse...

Del Rio: and what about this one?

Dreesen: anything they want...

Del Rio: this one?

Dreesen: anything! Look, unless you weren't paying attention twice a year in Jax, which is possible seeing you were fired, the Texans will run whatever they want out of whatever formation they want on any down-and-distance they want...anything else?

Del Rio: where can i get a drink?

badboy
09-22-2012, 04:28 PM
Watt looked good that play but Antonio Smith was a locomotive and Barwin was there on right also. That is what's so great everyone on defense does his job. I imagine the DBs had something to do with QB holding the ball so long.

badboy
09-22-2012, 04:30 PM
Yah...

Del Rio: Hey Joel, can i borrow you for a minute?

Dreesen: Sure, what's on your mind, coach?

Del Rio: Look at this formation...what plays do the Texans run out of this?

Dreesen: let's see...uhm...run right or left, pass short or deep, boot, reverse...

Del Rio: and what about this one?

Dreesen: anything they want...

Del Rio: this one?

Dreesen: anything! Look, unless you weren't paying attention twice a year in Jax, which is possible seeing you were fired, the Texans will run whatever they want out of whatever formation they want on any down-and-distance they want...anything else?

Del Rio: where can i get a drink?Awesome post!

Vinny
09-22-2012, 04:40 PM
I have been wrong before, but not on something as obvious as last week's game. Love ya some bent pinky if you want. Baldinger has always been a Texans hater. Has no credibility in my book.Baldinger's exact quote is, "I don't know if they are really gonna upset them (the Texans) but...

He was buying into the Jags looking good more than hating the Texans. Just watch it yourself.


http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap1000000062245/Playbook-Texans-vs-Jaguars

MEGA SWATT
09-22-2012, 05:56 PM
This VIDEO (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/0ap1000000064801/Playbook-Texans-vs-Broncos?module=HP11_content_stream) will get you revved up like a deuce!

Wow, I like it:clap:

Thorn
09-22-2012, 06:27 PM
Ole Bent Finger is just like the rest of 'em, they just reading from a script. It's nice to hear them say nice things, instead of the crap we heard just a few years ago. But still, you can talk all the announcers on the planet and roll all their knowledge into one person and you still wouldn't have the game plan Kubes and company has set up for the whittle bittie horsies. :)

Oh yeah, Da Forehead can OFFICIALLY now kiss my ass 'cause his team isn't as good as the Texans.

Manning vs. Texans: :pop:

drs23
09-22-2012, 06:43 PM
Yah...

Del Rio: Hey Joel, can i borrow you for a minute?

Dreesen: Sure, what's on your mind, coach?

Del Rio: Look at this formation...what plays do the Texans run out of this?

Dreesen: let's see...uhm...run right or left, pass short or deep, boot, reverse...

Del Rio: and what about this one?

Dreesen: anything they want...

Del Rio: this one?

Dreesen: anything! Look, unless you weren't paying attention twice a year in Jax, which is possible seeing you were fired, the Texans will run whatever they want out of whatever formation they want on any down-and-distance they want...anything else?

Del Rio: where can i get a drink?

That was pretty clever and humorous.

rep

silentassassin
09-22-2012, 06:54 PM
Baldinger's exact quote is, "I don't know if they are really gonna upset them (the Texans) but...

He was buying into the Jags looking good more than hating the Texans. Just watch it yourself.


http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-videos/0ap1000000062245/Playbook-Texans-vs-Jaguars

Much of the animosity comes from Baldinger's attitude towards the Texans before. An example of that is a previous post in this thread talking about Vandermeer's interview with him.

610 had him on for an interview during the lockout summer in June or July. One of their teasers (or whatever) was about how he disliked the Texans.

Among Baldinger's points were about how they underachieved and he mentioned things he didn't like about Kubiak. While some of what he said was valid, I found it to be mostly petty and I still maintain that even though he might favor the Texans now, some of that is still there.

I think it comes down to context. For those of us that have heard him rip the Texans before(warranted or not), it's in the back of our minds everytime he talks about them.

Vinny
09-22-2012, 06:59 PM
Much of the animosity comes from Baldinger's attitude towards the Texans before. An example of that is a previous post in this thread talking about Vandermeer's interview with him.

610 had him on for an interview during the lockout summer in June or July. One of their teasers (or whatever) was about how he disliked the Texans.

Among Baldinger's points were about how they underachieved and he mentioned things he didn't like about Kubiak. While some of what he said was valid, I found it to be mostly petty and I still maintain that even though he might favor the Texans now, some of that is still there.

I think it comes down to context. For those of us that have heard him rip the Texans before(warranted or not), it's in the back of our minds everytime he talks about them.
It's an opinion show...Plus he's right about how Houston has been an underachiever in the past. Still, he didn't come across as a hater there...he was wary of making the Jag pick.

all this homer stuff makes me goofy...its like partisan politics. ugh.

Thorn
09-22-2012, 07:01 PM
Much of the animosity comes from Baldinger's attitude towards the Texans before. An example of that is a previous post in this thread talking about Vandermeer's interview with him.

610 had him on for an interview during the lockout summer in June or July. One of their teasers (or whatever) was about how he disliked the Texans.

Among Baldinger's points were about how they underachieved and he mentioned things he didn't like about Kubiak. While some of what he said was valid, I found it to be mostly petty and I still maintain that even though he might favor the Texans now, it's still in him.

I think that showed in his Jaguars pick.

many of us here on this board (as big a homers as we are sometimes) still have our doubts about the Texans and Kubiak. I don't buy into the 12 or more win season myself, but I do buy into another AFCS Championship.

However, if they keep kicking ass like they did the first two games, that 12 or more win season could certainly look a lot more attainable. I need to see them pull it off against better teams than Miami and the Kittens. They beat up on Denver like that, and then waste the Titans, and I'll be smokin' and dunkin' the homer doughnuts myself.

silentassassin
09-22-2012, 07:03 PM
It's an opinion show...Plus he's right about how Houston has been an underachiever in the past. Still, he didn't come across as a hater there...he was wary of making the Jag pick.

all this homer stuff makes me goofy...its like partisan politics. ugh.

That's a good one.

I agree it's petty on my part too. I'm no psychologist or anything, but I think the desire for recognition/respect from the media part has a lot to do with the team not living up to expectations many times in the past.

Things have changed now, and I've become much more rational about criticism or straight up hate that the Texans receive.

Vinny
09-22-2012, 07:13 PM
I knee jerk a bit myself...for the record of course. :)

CloakNNNdagger
09-22-2012, 07:39 PM
I knee jerk a bit myself...for the record of course. :)

Should I take a look at your knee for you, Vinny?:spy:

Doppelganger
09-23-2012, 10:45 AM
I'll never forget Baldinger chuckling at Mark Vandermeer a couple years
back when he was asked about the Texans' playoff chances (the interview
occurred near the end of the Texans 9-7 season.) Sterling Sharpe has ALWAYS
been a huge Texans' fan, and I'm sure he's glad the team doesn't embarrass
him every week like we once did.

It feels good the Texans are able to FORCE people to respect them now.
They still get less than 30 seconds of shine on ESPN, though.

Texans got to earn that time. They have been the sexy pick for the playoffs for years and up until last year failed to deliver time and time again. If the Texans can get a big win today over Team Peyton they will earn some time. Continue winning big games and ESPN will be forced to give respect and analysis.

Respect isn't given, its earned.

DexmanC
09-23-2012, 12:29 PM
Texans got to earn that time. They have been the sexy pick for the playoffs for years and up until last year failed to deliver time and time again. If the Texans can get a big win today over Team Peyton they will earn some time. Continue winning big games and ESPN will be forced to give respect and analysis.

Respect isn't given, its earned.

According to The 506 (http://www.the506.com), The Texans
will have 80% of the country's attention as we are part of CBS's "A Game"
this week. We even get Phil Simms and Jim Nance as the broadcast team.

The Texans are winless in such instances, so hopefully, we see another
Texans' first today.

CloakNNNdagger
09-23-2012, 12:34 PM
NFL TOTAL ACCESS (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap1000000064656/Time-to-be-concerned-about-Peyton-Manning?continuous=true) this morning reveals that Manning has actually acknowledged Watt's formidable play.

nero THE zero
09-23-2012, 12:39 PM
Texans got to earn that time. They have been the sexy pick for the playoffs for years and up until last year failed to deliver time and time again. If the Texans can get a big win today over Team Peyton they will earn some time. Continue winning big games and ESPN will be forced to give respect and analysis.

Respect isn't given, its earned.
Did I wake up in 2009?

Carr Bombed
09-23-2012, 12:54 PM
Texans got to earn that time. They have been the sexy pick for the playoffs for years and up until last year failed to deliver time and time again. If the Texans can get a big win today over Team Peyton they will earn some time. Continue winning big games and ESPN will be forced to give respect and analysis.

Respect isn't given, its earned.

It doesn't have crap to do with any amount of "respect". It has to do with ESPN's horrible production and bias. Houston has already earned the respect, they're one of the best teams in the league and have been for well over a entire season. They have premier playmakers on both sides of the ball. I mean are you really going to tell me Tebow/the Jets or the freaking train wreck Cowboys have earned more "respect". :spit: And it's not just Houston, there's other teams that should be getting more air time, but get passed over by "ETSN" (Entertainment Tebow Sports Network)

ESPN is just a horribly produced sports channel, but there's really no other channel to challenge them so it is what it is.

GuerillaBlack
09-23-2012, 01:03 PM
It doesn't have crap to do with any amount of "respect". It has to do with ESPN's horrible production and bias. Houston has already earned the respect, they're one of the best teams in the league and have been for well over a entire season. They have premier playmakers on both sides of the ball. I mean are you really going to tell me Tebow/the Jets or the freaking train wreck Cowboys have earned more "respect". :spit: And it's not just Houston, there's other teams that should be getting more air time, but get passed over by "ETSN" (Entertainment Tebow Sports Network)

ESPN is just a horribly produced sports channel, but there's really no other channel to challenge them so it is what it is.

They make good commercials though. As for competing stations, it'll be a few years, but once NBC Sports Network bids on some tv contracts, ESPN will have real competition.

Carr Bombed
09-23-2012, 01:23 PM
Oh what do you know.. ESPN's media darlings, the Cowboys are already wetting the bed at home against the Bucs. :spit: All that coverage/respect they get must have something to do with that one epic playoff win they've had in the last 15 years.

Doppelganger
09-23-2012, 01:54 PM
It doesn't have crap to do with any amount of "respect". It has to do with ESPN's horrible production and bias. Houston has already earned the respect, they're one of the best teams in the league and have been for well over a entire season. They have premier playmakers on both sides of the ball. I mean are you really going to tell me Tebow/the Jets or the freaking train wreck Cowboys have earned more "respect". :spit: And it's not just Houston, there's other teams that should be getting more air time, but get passed over by "ETSN" (Entertainment Tebow Sports Network)

ESPN is just a horribly produced sports channel, but there's really no other channel to challenge them so it is what it is.

The Texans have had 1 playoff year thus far. At the moment the texans are tied with the new Cleveland browns in terms of playoff appearances in the league. 1 year does not earn respect, it's done over a longtime of continued excellence and/ or a large fan base. As much as we don't like To think of it, the Texans are largely irrelevant outside of Texas. More sustained winning will grow the brand and elicit respect.

The cowboys have the third most amount of Super Bowl trophies in the league and have one of the biggest if not biggest fan bases in the league. More recently they have had jerruh's head scratching comments. Espn will cater to what people want to talk about. See the jets: jets have been a team of one liners with Rex. Prior to Rex they were largely ignored. To get on espn you need continued success or have some zany character.

The texans are taking the first route.

hradhak
09-23-2012, 02:08 PM
I don't know that it is necessarily ESPN's bias as much as it is the nation's bias. Houston is a smaller sports market because our fans are essentially limited to the Houston area and surrounding. Catering to Cowpoke fans just makes business sense since they are more popular. That said, I haven't watched ESPN for a non-sporting event in years because I'm tired of waiting for 30 seconds of coverage for my team(s).

Carr Bombed
09-23-2012, 03:06 PM
The Texans have had 1 playoff year thus far. At the moment the texans are tied with the new Cleveland browns in terms of playoff appearances in the league. 1 year does not earn respect, it's done over a longtime of continued excellence and/ or a large fan base. As much as we don't like To think of it, the Texans are largely irrelevant outside of Texas. More sustained winning will grow the brand and elicit respect.

The cowboys have the third most amount of Super Bowl trophies in the league and have one of the biggest if not biggest fan bases in the league. More recently they have had jerruh's head scratching comments. Espn will cater to what people want to talk about. See the jets: jets have been a team of one liners with Rex. Prior to Rex they were largely ignored. To get on espn you need continued success or have some zany character.

The texans are taking the first route.

Bull. ESPN's decision to not really show or talk about the Texans and drool over Tebow and the Cowboys didn't have anything to do with respect and it doesn't have anything to do with Houston only having their first playoff victory last season.. the league is a parody league now which changes on a year to year basis.. teams rise and fall every single season.

The Texans are now one of the best teams in the league, they're playing against a all time great QB who played his entire career in their division, it happens to be one of the biggest AFC matchups this week. This game WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST STORY LINES ON THE WEEK. So much so that CBS decided to televise it all the way across the country. Only one network thought it was a foot note... ESPN. That doesn't have anything to do with "respect" as much as it has to do with just a crappy production company who cares more about sports gossip than actually covering sports stories that matter and have actual substance. Other networks are taking notice of the Texans and took notice of this game. It isn't a "respect" issue. LOL, think about it like this, without even winning another game, if Houston would sign T.O. or pick up a QB like Tebow ESPN would be all over the Texans coverage wise.. Do you really think they would just start taking notice, because they "respected us". They only care about gossip pieces, that's what they "respect".

Carr Bombed
09-23-2012, 03:25 PM
I don't know that it is necessarily ESPN's bias as much as it is the nation's bias. Houston is a smaller sports market because our fans are essentially limited to the Houston area and surrounding. Catering to Cowpoke fans just makes business sense since they are more popular. That said, I haven't watched ESPN for a non-sporting event in years because I'm tired of waiting for 30 seconds of coverage for my team(s).

I think it has more to do with Jerry Jones being the biggest media whore in all of sports.. He puts out for ESPN, supplies them with headlines and makes their jobs easier. In turn they're constantly talking about his team, even when his team sucks. It's a great relationship. They're not even "America's team" anymore, Pittsburgh is and they get half the coverage.

Rex Ryan and the Jets were doing this as well.. to the point where ESPN wasn't even talking about the SB winning NY Giants. Which further proves my point that ESPN's amount of coverage doesn't have anything to do with respect or wins. If you can't even get coverage in your own city over a freak show team like the NY Jets then ESPN really doesn't care about how much you win, they just want fluffy headlines. Again they're a gossip sports network. Think of them as the TMZ of sports coverage.

thunderkyss
09-23-2012, 09:09 PM
This VIDEO (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-playbook/0ap1000000064801/Playbook-Texans-vs-Broncos?module=HP11_content_stream) will get you revved up like a deuce!

This is different. I don't really care what those guys say, I'm not one of those, "The national media doesn't give us respect" guys.

But it's nice to see the expectations are high & the Texans are meeting/exceeding them. Not too long ago, those guys would "go out on a limb" & we'd lay an egg.

thunderkyss
09-23-2012, 09:14 PM
They make good commercials though.

Tapenade.

http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg532/scaled.php?tn=0&server=532&filename=k0qwz.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640

Carr Bombed
09-24-2012, 12:46 PM
I think it has more to do with Jerry Jones being the biggest media whore in all of sports.. He puts out for ESPN, supplies them with headlines and makes their jobs easier. In turn they're constantly talking about his team, even when his team sucks. It's a great relationship. They're not even "America's team" anymore, Pittsburgh is and they get half the coverage.

Rex Ryan and the Jets were doing this as well.. to the point where ESPN wasn't even talking about the SB winning NY Giants. Which further proves my point that ESPN's amount of coverage doesn't have anything to do with respect or wins. If you can't even get coverage in your own city over a freak show team like the NY Jets then ESPN really doesn't care about how much you win, they just want fluffy headlines. Again they're a gossip sports network. Think of them as the TMZ of sports coverage.


LOL, ESPN just had "Breaking News" and cut into a program to pull away to a Rex Ryan press conference where he announced Darrelle Revis tore his ACL

Andre Johnson could fall victim to a horrific farm accident and lose both arms and legs and he'd never get this ridiculous coverage (Ryan was basically crying), All you'd get was a bottom scroll.

This doesn't have crap to do with "respect" Which Houston will never gain after a big conference win.. :wadepalm: Shat (the aftermath), the Giants don't even get the coverage that the (new cowboys, the Jets) do. :spit: It's comical

417Texan
09-24-2012, 12:48 PM
I'll never forget Baldinger chuckling at Mark Vandermeer a couple years
back when he was asked about the Texans' playoff chances (the interview
occurred near the end of the Texans 9-7 season.) Sterling Sharpe has ALWAYS
been a huge Texans' fan, and I'm sure he's glad the team doesn't embarrass
him every week like we once did.

It feels good the Texans are able to FORCE people to respect them now.
They still get less than 30 seconds of shine on ESPN, though.

No kidding. How the hell does Texans get no love from Espn? This team is a blast to watch.

Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 12:52 PM
So you've never been wrong about anything before? Baldinger isn't a tool just because he picked the wrong horse.. he's picked Houston plenty of times in the past.

Baldinger was huge on Schaub when we picked him up. I remember his analysis was spot on regarding the upgrade at QB position, which has clearly been reinforced since then.

HOU-TEX
09-24-2012, 12:59 PM
Baldinger was huge on Schaub when we picked him up. I remember his analysis was spot on regarding the upgrade at QB position, which has clearly been reinforced since then.

Yeah, but I do remember him blasting McNair for keeping Kubiak around a couple years ago. He basically said the Texans' failures start from the top. Which, at the time, was probably warranted too.

I've never had a problem with Baldy.

That said, I truly wish they'd get Irvin off my friggin TV. He ruins whatever show he's on when he opens his face.

Carr Bombed
09-24-2012, 01:00 PM
No kidding. How the hell does Texans get no love from Espn? This team is a blast to watch.

They don't have a NY transplant (from Dallas, who also has christian ties) dead hooker in their trunk. :)


Again, think TMZ.. not ESPN.

Double Barrel
09-24-2012, 01:02 PM
Yeah, but I do remember him blasting McNair for keeping Kubiak around a couple years ago. He basically said the Texans' failures start from the top. Which, at the time, was probably warranted too.

I've never had a problem with Baldy.

That said, I truly wish they'd get Irvin off my friggin TV. He ruins whatever show he's on when he opens his face.

I agree completely. ESPN likes to hire clowns.

I rarely watch ESPN. They give too much attention to certain teams, hyping irrelevant stories over winning teams. And many of their talking heads are just goofy. Unfortunately, NFLN is following ESPN's lead with shows like NFL AM.

Carr Bombed
09-24-2012, 01:04 PM
Yeah, but I do remember him blasting McNair for keeping Kubiak around a couple years ago. He basically said the Texans' failures start from the top. Which, at the time, was probably warranted too.

I've never had a problem with Baldy.

That said, I truly wish they'd get Irvin off my friggin TV. He ruins whatever show he's on when he opens his face.

I'll never be able to blast him for that, because I said the same thing..and still do. His commitment to "F.O.G.'s" should've cost him his job. He needs to count his thankful stars that he still has a job.

silentassassin
09-24-2012, 04:19 PM
LOL, ESPN just had "Breaking News" and cut into a program to pull away to a Rex Ryan press conference where he announced Darrelle Revis tore his ACL

Andre Johnson could fall victim to a horrific farm accident and lose both arms and legs and he'd never get this ridiculous coverage (Ryan was basically crying), All you'd get was a bottom scroll.

This doesn't have crap to do with "respect" Which Houston will never gain after a big conference win.. :wadepalm: Shat (the aftermath), the Giants don't even get the coverage that the (new cowboys, the Jets) do. :spit: It's comical

I think a lot of that hinges on the "casual fan."

I guess the definition of casual fan can be argued, but I'd say anyone who's posting on a fan board like this one isn't anywhere close to "casual fan." We're all pretty committed to watching this team and the sport in general.

But then there are those who just for the Tebow and things like that, and that's who most (if not all) of these major networks cater to.

It's just a bigger market.

badboy
09-24-2012, 04:23 PM
Should I take a look at your knee for you, Vinny?:spy:No you will have him out the rest of the season! lol sorry I just could not resist.

badboy
09-24-2012, 04:27 PM
I don't know that it is necessarily ESPN's bias as much as it is the nation's bias. Houston is a smaller sports market because our fans are essentially limited to the Houston area and surrounding. Catering to Cowpoke fans just makes business sense since they are more popular. That said, I haven't watched ESPN for a non-sporting event in years because I'm tired of waiting for 30 seconds of coverage for my team(s).Green Bay has done fairly well in their small market. We need to quit whining about air time and respect and keep dominating the next team up.

ALLL ABOARD, HAHAHAHA