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DavisAg
09-17-2012, 04:18 PM
Hear me out.

I can't help but think of the 2011 Alabama squad while watching the Texans.

Schaub=McCarron
A game-managing QB who doesn't have to do much for the team to be successful, as long as he limits turnovers.

Foster/Tate=Richardson/Lacy
We have a stable of RB's that the offense leans heavily on. Because of the sound running game, the QB just has to be a game-manager.

Both offensive lines are arguably the best in the country.

Andre Johnson=Marquis Maze
Clearly the No. 1 receiver and the QB knows he can rely on him. He doesn't necessarily have to put up big numbers to make an impact. Draws attention to create room for other receivers.

Defense has studs all over the place. Anchored by a monster DL and fantastic linebackers, they put constant pressure on the opposing QB, making the DB's jobs easier.

Jonathan Joseph=Dre Kirkpatrick
Both are ball-hawks that lockdown receivers and play very physical. Both considered to be one of the best in the country at the position.

So there you have it. Reasons why I see the 2011 National Champion Alabama Crimson Tide when I watch my 2012 Suberbowl Champion Houston Texans.

Dutchrudder
09-17-2012, 04:26 PM
Yeah, I guess I see the resemblance.

http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/Sports/nicker.jpghttp://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/Sports/Kubiak.jpg

TexansFanatic
09-17-2012, 04:32 PM
Yeah, I guess I see the resemblance.


Except Kubiak's a good dude and Saban is an a-hole.

speedfreek
09-17-2012, 04:44 PM
Kubiak's daughter isn't a paid ninja assassin brawler..

TJ

DavisAg
09-17-2012, 04:46 PM
Glad this thread turned out how I thought it would.

:toropalm:

Carr Bombed
09-17-2012, 05:08 PM
Matt Schaub isn't just a game manager.. Houston is much more balanced on offense. The 2012 Houston Texans are the 2011 Houston Texans with a healthy Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson.

Dutchrudder
09-17-2012, 06:06 PM
Glad this thread turned out how I thought it would.

:toropalm:

Well if you want some analysis, here you go:

Schaub=McCarron
A game-managing QB who doesn't have to do much for the team to be successful, as long as he limits turnovers.

This is ludicrous if you consider that guys like Alex Smith and Mark Sanchez are the prime examples of game managers. I think McCarron is a game-manager, in that most of his passes are short and it just allows talent around him to make most of the plays. Schaub on the other hand has had to pass a lot during close games, and he's had several 4000+ yard seasons (was on pace for it last year too). Schaub is much more than a game manager, if that's all he was to this offense, then we probably would have beat the Ravens with TJ Yates. But alas, this offense depends on the QB more than some people are willing to admit.

Foster/Tate=Richardson/Lacy
We have a stable of RB's that the offense leans heavily on. Because of the sound running game, the QB just has to be a game-manager.

Yes, we both have good runningbacks, but neither Richardson nor Lacy are the sort of elusive back that Foster is. They are both much more like Tate, ground and pound between the tackles sort of players. The Texans run a zone blocking scheme (lots of counters and pulls), whereas the Tide run a traditional Power-O (plow forward). Their philosophies are different, their o-line play is different, and their interior personnel are built for strength, not speed. Arian flourishes in this type of scheme, but would be wasted in a Bama type of offense. If you want Power-O in the NFL, look at the Jets and Steelers.

Both offensive lines are arguably the best in the country.

Ok maybe, but they don't play the same scheme. Not sure what the similarity is besides the talent and that they both use 5 guys to create a pocket.

Andre Johnson=Marquis Maze

Andre Lamont Johnson is 6'3 220 pounds, and is known for being a WR that can make plays anywhere on the field. He frequently requires double coverage, and consistently makes tough catches that many WRs would not. He has led the NFL in receiving yards, and has been considered the best WR during those years.

Maze is 5'8 194 pounds, and is primarily a known for being a returnman and has never been in the conversation for the Biletnikoff award.

I'll let you figure that one out.

Defense has studs all over the place. Anchored by a monster DL and fantastic linebackers, they put constant pressure on the opposing QB, making the DB's jobs easier.

Yes, they both have good defenses and run a 3-4.

Jonathan Joseph=Dre Kirkpatrick

Well, the Bengals did draft Kirkpatrick to fill the hole left by JJo's departure... I guess that one makes sense.

ItsMyFault
09-17-2012, 06:15 PM
Don't ever insult this team or the NFL by comparing college football or a college football team to the Texans again.

DavisAg
09-17-2012, 06:28 PM
Yall are feisty today. I'm not literally comparing the Texans to a damn college team. Just thought it was interesting that both teams were built similarly.

Maybe I should re-word the whole "game manager" thing. I do believe Schaub is one of the better QBs in the league. What I'm trying to say is that this offense doesn't need Schaub to be a world beater. They can have success with him being a "game manager".

I'm not physically comparing the running backs nor am I comparing their running style. I merely said we have a stable of running backs that the offense leans on. Both teams have 2 excellent running backs (at their level).

Once again, not physically comparing Andre to Marquis. Just said they are both the clear cut number 1 target and they don't necessarily have to put up big numbers.

GP
09-17-2012, 07:01 PM
WTH is up with all these weird threads?

This isn't "let's pretend" time.

First it was the Luck/Schaub thread, now this one. Am I on the main board by accident? Has this board been hacked?

GP
09-17-2012, 07:09 PM
At this rate, thread topics will look like this by next Monday:

1. If we played next weeks game in a sand pit and blindfolded would we win?

2. Ok everyone...we have only one player to choose to face the whole Broncos team next week. Who would you pick and why? And the one player gets to be armed with your choice of a teleportation device (three uses only!) or a trident and net.

3. Are we more like the 1994 Rockets or a 1967 Mustang. Or a bazooka?

Carr Bombed
09-17-2012, 07:16 PM
Maybe I should re-word the whole "game manager" thing. I do believe Schaub is one of the better QBs in the league. What I'm trying to say is that this offense doesn't need Schaub to be a world beater. They can have success with him being a "game manager".

We can beat the Dolphins and Jaguars of the world with conservative play from Schaub.. when we start playing other elite QBs (and there's plenty on our schedule) he's going to have to be more than just a game manager.. especially in the playoffs.

BeerTastesLikeVictory
09-17-2012, 07:20 PM
At this rate, thread topics will look like this by next Monday:

1. If we played next weeks game in a sand pit and blindfolded would we win?

2. Ok everyone...we have only one player to choose to face the whole Broncos team next week. Who would you pick and why? And the one player gets to be armed with your choice of a teleportation device (three uses only!) or a trident and net.

3. Are we more like the 1994 Rockets or a 1967 Mustang. Or a bazooka?

Awesome!
Who Wins - Andre Johnson vs. a Category 5 hurricane? But what if the hurricane was named Hurricane Johnson?

**Yes, old SNL superfans reference**

Texan_Bill
09-17-2012, 07:20 PM
Except Kubiak's a good dude and Saban is an a-hole.
This ^^^^^^^

Kubiak's daughter isn't a paid ninja assassin brawler..

TJ
Very funny, this ^^^^^^^^^

Matt Schaub isn't just a game manager.. Houston is much more balanced on offense. The 2012 Houston Texans are the 2011 Houston Texans with a healthy Matt Schaub and Andre Johnson.

Agreed. "Game manager" is a little over-used.

Cjeremy635
09-17-2012, 07:21 PM
At this rate, thread topics will look like this by next Monday:

1. If we played next weeks game in a sand pit and blindfolded would we win?
Magic 8 ball says, "outcome not likely".

2. Ok everyone...we have only one player to choose to face the whole Broncos team next week. Who would you pick and why? And the one player gets to be armed with your choice of a teleportation device (three uses only!) or a trident and net.
Duh, JJ Swatt & a trident. No brainer there.

3. Are we more like the 1994 Rockets or a 1967 Mustang. Or a bazooka?
I like bazookas because they go "BOOM!" Can JJ use the bazooka?

:handshake:

GlassHalfFull
09-17-2012, 07:35 PM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

Texan_Bill
09-17-2012, 07:44 PM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

I've requested this but was met with a lot of contention!!

Speedy
09-17-2012, 07:51 PM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

Yeah, but then we wouldn't get classic responses like these.

At this rate, thread topics will look like this by next Monday:

1. If we played next weeks game in a sand pit and blindfolded would we win?

2. Ok everyone...we have only one player to choose to face the whole Broncos team next week. Who would you pick and why? And the one player gets to be armed with your choice of a teleportation device (three uses only!) or a trident and net.

3. Are we more like the 1994 Rockets or a 1967 Mustang. Or a bazooka?

Awesome!
Who Wins - Andre Johnson vs. a Category 5 hurricane? But what if the hurricane was named Hurricane Johnson?

**Yes, old SNL superfans reference**

That's some funny stuff!!!

TexansFanatic
09-17-2012, 09:04 PM
At this rate, thread topics will look like this by next Monday:

1. If we played next weeks game in a sand pit and blindfolded would we win?

2. Ok everyone...we have only one player to choose to face the whole Broncos team next week. Who would you pick and why? And the one player gets to be armed with your choice of a teleportation device (three uses only!) or a trident and net.

3. Are we more like the 1994 Rockets or a 1967 Mustang. Or a bazooka?

The answer to each of those is obvious: Ditka.

Tried to rep you, bro. MSR

Kthx
09-17-2012, 09:10 PM
Hope someone gets GP for that.

rush2112mn
09-17-2012, 09:47 PM
2012 Houston Texans....I think of the 2012 Houston Texans.....
I would never equate a college team to a professional team.

Pollardized
09-17-2012, 10:25 PM
The answer to each of those is obvious: Ditka.

Tried to rep you, bro. MSR

Tried. MSR...

Showtime100
09-17-2012, 10:32 PM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

I've requested this but was met with a lot of contention!!

Count me in.

A sincere welcome to the board, DavisAg, :) but count me as one of those who don't care for the thread topic.

rolyat93
09-18-2012, 12:21 AM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

CF has had a lot of newb threads lately. Mostly Lin fans.

Mr. Texan
09-18-2012, 07:08 AM
2012 Houston Texans = 2012 Minka Kelly's Ass

It's just that good.

Thorn
09-18-2012, 07:23 AM
Clutchfans doesn't allow newbies to start new threads. I have been thinking TT might want to adopt that policy.

I think that only people who are as intelligent and as good looking as I am should be allowed to start threads. :)

GlassHalfFull
09-18-2012, 07:27 AM
I think that only people who are as intelligent and as good looking as I am should be allowed to start threads. :)

Oh dear, that leaves the door wide open for all to start threads. :cow:

GP
09-18-2012, 08:59 AM
Maybe an online click-through tutorial and subsequent questions the new poster has to answer...like a continuing education class online.

1. You are new to the boards. You are about to start a thread. What is the best action to take:

a.) See if that thread already exists, and if it exists please post in IT instead

b.) If no thread exists for your topic, does your topic fit the forum you are posting it in? Is your topic awkward? Are YOU awkward? Do you live with your parents or grandmother? If you answered yes to more than 1 question, please sell your computer or disconnect your DSL service.

c.) Are you sensitive to criticism? Then pretend you started the thread, but don't. For the rest of the day, enjoy your imaginary thread and all the positive replies it fictitiously received. You are the king of the world.

I remember when I first started posting on the original Texans board when it first began, the old houstontexans.com board. I was as awkward as anything we've seen here. I look back on it and laugh. Everyone starts off a bit awkwardly.

DavisAG, if you're still around please know that you are welcome here. It's like a brotherhood...we're going to razz you and it's nothing personal. If we end up being as successful as the 2011 Crimson Tide then I'll be one happy dude, for sure.

GlassHalfFull
09-18-2012, 09:10 AM
Just to continue the thread derail (and sorry DavisAG, not trying to pick on you, welcome aboard - your user name implies we may have 2 things in common)

I post over at TexAgs some, and that site annoys the hell out of me. Everytime some stray thought passes thru a mind, someone starts a thread. Game day is ridiculous, I tried to follow Sat and there must have been hundreds of threads started. I have always greatly appreciated the job the mods here do in keeping things orderly around here (shameless sucking up). As the Texans get more popular, we are going to move from the small society we have enjoyed, but I hope we are able to keep the board from turning into a stray thought central.

Home team fan
09-18-2012, 11:50 AM
I've just started posting here in the last month or so, but have been reading daily since begining of the 11 season. Where do I go to see what threads have already been started? Also a few abreveations people use I'm not sure of. Any place to find a list? (newbe handbook maybe, threads for dummies etc. Lol)
I have started a thread on where to watch games in Oklahoma. I got great feed back! I've been here working and will be all season and haven't missed a game. So a big thanks to y'all!!!!!!!!:texflag:

Vinny
09-18-2012, 12:09 PM
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5747059790837116893

badboy
09-18-2012, 02:15 PM
Hear me out.

I can't help but think of the 2011 Alabama squad while watching the Texans.

Schaub=McCarron
A game-managing QB who doesn't have to do much for the team to be successful, as long as he limits turnovers.

Foster/Tate=Richardson/Lacy
We have a stable of RB's that the offense leans heavily on. Because of the sound running game, the QB just has to be a game-manager.

Both offensive lines are arguably the best in the country.

Andre Johnson=Marquis Maze
Clearly the No. 1 receiver and the QB knows he can rely on him. He doesn't necessarily have to put up big numbers to make an impact. Draws attention to create room for other receivers.

Defense has studs all over the place. Anchored by a monster DL and fantastic linebackers, they put constant pressure on the opposing QB, making the DB's jobs easier.

Jonathan Joseph=Dre Kirkpatrick
Both are ball-hawks that lockdown receivers and play very physical. Both considered to be one of the best in the country at the position.

So there you have it. Reasons why I see the 2011 National Champion Alabama Crimson Tide when I watch my 2012 Suberbowl Champion Houston Texans.LOL yo might have done better if you had said the two teams were similar rather thn equaling each other. I took it you were comparing and TBH I have thought the same recently. A coaching staff that has built a program where it has a strong team every year (Texans should be there now); a good Qb if not Heisman or HOF; an Oline that folks talk about (Texans had this until Briesel & Eric left, but could continue with their replacements). Maze may never be an Andre Johnson but he could. I read your thread that like Houston, Alabama has WR that is clutch.

DavisAG, welcome to the board & don't sweat the heat. Most of the posters giving you grief have had stupid posts at one time or another or simply ones than most others disagree with. They just hope the spotlight has dimmed. You should pull up the thread I started a few years ago about trading Andre Johnson as it looked like we were going nowhere.

My posts are like that famous box of chocolates that Mr. Gump spoke of. Some are pretty tasty, others are gooeey & others nutty. Some make you want to spit.

Steve

76Texan
09-18-2012, 02:41 PM
LOL yo might have done better if you had said the two teams were similar rather thn equaling each other. I took it you were comparing and TBH I have thought the same recently. A coaching staff that has built a program where it has a strong team every year (Texans should be there now); a good Qb if not Heisman or HOF; an Oline that folks talk about (Texans had this until Briesel & Eric left, but could continue with their replacements). Maze may never be an Andre Johnson but he could. I read your thread that like Houston, Alabama has WR that is clutch.

DavisAG, welcome to the board & don't sweat the heat. Most of the posters giving you grief have had stupid posts at one time or another or simply ones than most others disagree with. They just hope the spotlight has dimmed. You should pull up the thread I started a few years ago about trading Andre Johnson as it looked like we were going nowhere.

My posts are like that famous box of chocolates that Mr. Gump spoke of. Some are pretty tasty, others are gooeey & others nutty. Some make you want to spit.

Steve
I read the OP (that's original poster for you, Davis) the same way you do.

The thread title was not a good one, that's all.

You just can't put that equal sign there.

I would agree with the Texans (in the NFL) might be comparable to the Tides (that won the National Championship - at the collegiate level).

I don't agree with some of the comparisons, but I can see where he was coming from.

Seņor Stan
09-18-2012, 02:51 PM
If Jon Week's dad accidentally breaks the Lombardi trophy...

Dad of Alabama long snapper broke national championship trophy (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/04/alabama-broken-crystal-trophy-carleton-tinker-/1#.UFjQRa6hkdQ)

badboy
09-18-2012, 02:58 PM
If Jon Week's dad accidentally breaks the Lombardi trophy...

Dad of Alabama long snapper broke national championship trophy (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/campusrivalry/post/2012/04/alabama-broken-crystal-trophy-carleton-tinker-/1#.UFjQRa6hkdQ)was unaware of this. Thanks for posting Stan!

HollaIFyaHEMI
09-18-2012, 03:30 PM
Without Jacoby Jones ... we would have. IMHO.


As soon as Jacoby fumbled that football and Baltimore scored on us, the game was over. With Matt Schaub, the game would not have been over.

DavisAg
09-18-2012, 04:01 PM
Sorry for the confusion on this thread. Definitely didn't turn out like I thought it would. I've been a lurker on this site for years but didn't decide to sign up until recently, obviously.

GlassHalfFull, I too post on TexAgs and judging by your username, you aren't the typical TexAgs poster. The meltdowns over there are unbearable at times but this board seems much more laid back. (I guess that's what happens when you win consistently.)

I have no problem with criticism at all. Just thought it would be a fun thread and I guess yall took it a bit more seriously that I assumed you would. I understand the confusion with the equals signs. Just know that I would never literally compare my Texans to a college team. I'm as big of a Texans fan as any of you and there is nothing I love more than my Aggies and my Texans.

:worldpeace:

Showtime100
09-18-2012, 05:24 PM
Sorry for the confusion on this thread. Definitely didn't turn out like I thought it would. I've been a lurker on this site for years but didn't decide to sign up until recently, obviously.

GlassHalfFull, I too post on TexAgs and judging by your username, you aren't the typical TexAgs poster. The meltdowns over there are unbearable at times but this board seems much more laid back. (I guess that's what happens when you win consistently.)

I have no problem with criticism at all. Just thought it would be a fun thread and I guess yall took it a bit more seriously that I assumed you would. I understand the confusion with the equals signs. Just know that I would never literally compare my Texans to a college team. I'm as big of a Texans fan as any of you and there is nothing I love more than my Aggies and my Texans.

:worldpeace:

It's the regular season. We have no sense of humor to speak of until around March when we come to terms with the fact that we are not Super Bowl Champs.

I wouldn't put too much weight on the reactions of this thread. You clearly are not the kind of poster that will start out with a bunch of red rep dots by your name. You're a Texan fan so welcome to the asylum! :D

Thorn
09-18-2012, 06:07 PM
What Showtime said. :)

DavisAg
09-18-2012, 06:09 PM
It's the regular season. We have no sense of humor to speak of until around March when we come to terms with the fact that we are not Super Bowl Champs.

I wouldn't put too much weight on the reactions of this thread. You clearly are not the kind of poster that will start out with a bunch of red rep dots by your name. You're a Texan fan so welcome to the asylum! :D


Well let's hope the sense of humor is present in early February.

Thanks to those of you for the welcome(s). :toast2:

Lady.Gaga.3000
10-03-2012, 12:00 AM
per John Clayton (http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/page/lastcall1204/john-clayton-last-call)

1. The Crimson Tide of the NFL: The combination of Matt Schaub's brains and Wade Phillips' defense has allowed the Houston Texans to become one of the league's most dominating teams. Dating back to last year, Schaub has won his past eight games. Houston's average margin of victory is 20 points in those games. Watching the Texans dismantle AFC teams is like watching Alabama plow through the SEC.

Doesn't really make a good connection to the Tide other than dominating opponents with a great defense, but it's a funny coincidence.