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CloakNNNdagger
09-13-2012, 02:35 PM
Texans looking at DL. (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/13/taking-a-look-at-the-first-tryout-tuesday-and-wednesday/)

The Texans tried to beef up the defensive line, looking at Remi Ayodele, Brandon Bair, Corbin Bryant, Clifton Geathers, Daniel Muir, and Jay Richardson.

NastyNate
09-13-2012, 02:47 PM
Bair+Watt would be like trying to throw through a fan. Kind of lean for a D lineman though if you're trying to beef up the line.

CloakNNNdagger
09-13-2012, 06:27 PM
Bair+Watt would be like trying to throw through a fan. Kind of lean for a D lineman though if you're trying to beef up the line.
Bair is ~ 6'6" to 6'7" 280. Mario was listed at 6'6" to 6'7" 288. JJ is listed at 6'5" 295. Bair led the entire Pac 10 in tackles for loss in 2010, He could still fit the bill under the guidance of a Wade led defense.

beerlover
09-13-2012, 06:34 PM
Bair is ~ 6'6" to 6'7" 280. Mario was listed at 6'6" to 6'7" 288. JJ is listed at 6'5" 295. Bair led the entire Pac 10 in tackles for loss in 2010, He could still fit the bill under the guidance of a Wade led defense.

Bair would be a solid pick-up. He is good on special teams & can block some balls himself. They might start calling the Texans D the "S'Watt Team".

Playmaker
09-13-2012, 08:55 PM
I'm assuming Holliday's roster spot is the one most likeliest to be freed up if they sign one of those later.

The Pencil Neck
09-13-2012, 11:23 PM
Bair would be a solid pick-up. He is good on special teams & can block some balls himself. They might start calling the Texans D the "S'Watt Team".

That's already being kicked around in the media.

steelbtexan
09-13-2012, 11:36 PM
Bair+Watt would be like trying to throw through a fan. Kind of lean for a D lineman though if you're trying to beef up the line.

Bair has talent.

I wanted Rick to spend the Mr. Irrelevant pick on Bair or Herzlich.

Rey
09-13-2012, 11:48 PM
I'm assuming Holliday's roster spot is the one most likeliest to be freed up if they sign one of those later.

Or maybe they were doing their due diligence in case Antonio was suspended...

Wolf6151
09-14-2012, 04:23 AM
They're just checking out and grading FA players for future reference in case a need should arise, being prepared. I don't know anything about Bair but he sounds interesting. Has he got any speed or quickness? I can't help but think though that with his size if he had any potential he'd be on a roster somewhere.

CloakNNNdagger
09-14-2012, 06:01 AM
From Arrowhead.com (March 2011):

Bair is a 6-6, 276 pound defensive end who was projected as a potential 5th or 6th round pick by NFL Draft Scout. Unfortunately for Bair, he fell off the board and is now in limbo with the other undrafted free agents.

Bair started as a DT at Oregon in 2010 but projects well as a five-technique in a 3-4 defense. The Chiefs are obviously interested in adding depth along their defensive front and Bair would be an interesting player to check out. His sheer size makes him a threat to bat down a lot of balls at the line. The scouts at Sideline Scouting like his swim move and first step as well as his quickness and ability to get into the backfield. He has 15.5 tackles for a loss in 2010.

Some things that may have hurt Bair in the draft are his age and his weight. At 6-6 he could stand to add some heft to his frame and he will be a 26 year old rookie due to spending two years on a church [2 year Mormon] mission.

Blair's OregonLive.com (http://blog.oregonlive.com/nfl/2011/02/nfl_combine_oregon_defensive_l.html) NFL Combine write up:


Former Oregon defensive lineman Brandon Bair (6-foot-6, 276) likely improved his draft stock during Monday’s workouts at the NFL Scouting Combine at Lucas Oil Stadium in Indianapolis, Ind.

Bair turned in an unofficial time in the 40-yard dash 4.82 seconds and also performed well in several other events.

Bair ranked seventh among the 57 defensive linemen at the combine in the 3-cone drill (7.07 seconds), 10th in the 20-yard shuttle (4.37) and 13th in the broad jump (9’6”).

NFLDraftScout.com ranks Bair as the18th best defensive end prospect in the draft and projects him to be a sixth-round pick. But that was before the combine.

Bair, 26, was perceived to lack the speed and quickness to play defensive end in the 4-3 defense. With his strong performance in the 40, some 4-3 teams might now consider him a good strong-side defensive end prospect.

However, his best bet could be develop as a 3-4 defensive end, a position that requires more bulk and less speed than a typical 4-3 defensive end.

“This kid here is what I call the ideal developmental 5-technique,” NFL Network’s lead draft analyst Mike Mayock said during the broadcast of the combine. “Brandon Bair played inside at defensive tackle (at Oregon). He’s almost 6-foot-6. He weighs 276, and look at him, he’s lean. You can throw 20 pounds on him in the next year and all of the sudden you have a 300-pound, 5-technique, which is the defensive end in the 3-4.”


“He plays like that,” Sapp said. “Big and strong.”

Wisconsin’s J.J. Watt ran a 4.84 at 6-foot-5 290 pounds and got 34 reps in the bench press and had a 37” vertical.

Mayock called Watt the prototype 3-4 defensive end.

NFLDraftScout.com ranks Watt as the fifth-best defensive end in the draft and projects him to be a first-round pick.

If Bair could add some bulk and maintain his athleticism, as Mayock suggests, he could develop into a top prospect.

“One of those 3-4 teams is going to scoop him up in the third or fourth round, put 20 pounds on him and all of the sudden (you have a) 6-6, 300-pound, 5-technique sitting face up on that offensive tackle,” Mayock added.

beerlover
09-14-2012, 09:26 AM
Bair should at least be stashed on the PT squad. I've watched him play plenty of times, not only does he fit in Wade Phillips system he would be another interesting character fit in clubhouse. Take similar path as Tim Jamision who worked hard & eventually core player on 53 man roster. I'm not saying he could be the next Ted Hendricks, who was all of 220lbs @ 6-7, but I would love to see him stick around here awhile :)

ArlingtonTexan
09-14-2012, 09:46 AM
They're just checking out and grading FA players for future reference in case a need should arise, being prepared.

the general pattern over time is to bring a different position group every week. Most of the time, Tuesday tryout is not immediate need nor signing driven.

NCTexan
09-14-2012, 10:32 AM
Bair should at least be stashed on the PT squad. I've watched him play plenty of times, not only does he fit in Wade Phillips system he would be another interesting character fit in clubhouse. Take similar path as Tim Jamision who worked hard & eventually core player on 53 man roster. I'm not saying he could be the next Ted Hendricks, who was all of 220lbs @ 6-7, but I would love to see him stick around here awhile :)

I think he's on the Raiders PS right now. We can't get him unless it is to the 53 right?

CloakNNNdagger
09-14-2012, 11:50 AM
I think he's on the Raiders PS right now. We can't get him unless it is to the 53 right?

............for 3 weeks. After that, we can keep him on the 53, release him or actually put him on our own PS.

Wolf6151
09-14-2012, 06:12 PM
............for 3 weeks. After that, we can keep him on the 53, release him or actually put him on our own PS.

He sounds like a guy with potential but with Crick and Jamison on the roster as 3-4 DE backups, I don't see room on the roster for Bair. Kubiak also seems to favor guys who already know the teams system, like training some guy for a couple weeks is some major inconvenience.

Texan_Bill
09-14-2012, 07:14 PM
Bair is ~ 6'6" to 6'7" 280. Mario was listed at 6'6" to 6'7" 288. JJ is listed at 6'5" 295. Bair led the entire Pac 10 in tackles for loss in 2010, He could still fit the bill under the guidance of a Wade led defense.

Hey Doc, you lost all argumentative credibility by comparing him to Mario. :kitten:

;)

CloakNNNdagger
09-14-2012, 07:49 PM
Hey Doc, you lost all argumentative credibility by comparing him to Mario. :kitten:

;)

Well, just smack my ass and call me Sally!:dangit:

steelbtexan
09-14-2012, 10:31 PM
He sounds like a guy with potential but with Crick and Jamison on the roster as 3-4 DE backups, I don't see room on the roster for Bair. Kubiak also seems to favor guys who already know the teams system, like training some guy for a couple weeks is some major inconvenience.

Gary favors? Defensive players= LOL

Wade favors defensive players= Spot On.

The Pencil Neck
09-15-2012, 12:03 AM
Gary favors? Defensive players= LOL

I don't think it was Gary that was choosing those defensive players prior to Wade. I think it was Bush and Richard Smith before him.

cuppacoffee
09-15-2012, 11:32 AM
I'm assuming Holliday's roster spot is the one most likeliest to be freed up if they sign one of those later.

Looks like I am not the only one thinking the Miami game was Hollidays mulligan.

:coffee:

steelbtexan
09-15-2012, 11:55 AM
Looks like I am not the only one thinking the Miami game was Hollidays mulligan.

:coffee:

Yep, since Holliday is limited to ST's he has to be special. He was anything but special against Miami. A worse version of Jacoby. IMHO

He needs to step it up if he want to keep his roster spot. I think he will step up. But that history has yet to be written.

drs23
09-15-2012, 03:05 PM
Yep, since Holliday is limited to ST's he has to be special. He was anything but special against Miami. A worse version of Jacoby. IMHO

He needs to step it up if he want to keep his roster spot. I think he will step up. But that history has yet to be written.

Yeah, I figure Kubiak will give him about a three game leash. If he's not special by then I'm figuring he get's the boot.

Sure hope he can turn it around and look like he did in PS and maybe even be worked into the offence as some have talked about in other threads. There's got to be a way to take advantage of that world class speed. I'd sure like the coaching staff to figure out a way to make it happen.

ZOOM ZOOM!

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2012, 08:05 AM
PFT reports:

The Texans went all O-line, with centers Bryan Mattison and Cecil Newton, guards Mike Gibson and Kevin Hughes, and tackles James Lee, William Robinson, and Stephen Schilling.

IDEXAN
09-20-2012, 09:08 AM
PFT reports:
What are the Texans looking for here, an OLineman for the practice squad or what ? They aren't looking to replace one of their 53-squad Olineman with a street-agent are they ?

CloakNNNdagger
09-20-2012, 09:42 AM
What are the Texans looking for here, an OLineman for the practice squad or what ? They aren't looking to replace one of their 53-squad Olineman with a street-agent are they ?

Probably just getting familiar with what's out there in case OL injury....or if a starter (some still in flux) or backup fails to "gel." Our Oline and its composition still has questions......questions that are unlikely to be answered before we face formidable Ds.

GP
09-20-2012, 11:05 AM
Someone make a sticky'd thread that has one post in it:

"Tuesday try outs do not indicate that we're going to sign one of those players...nor does it indicate that THAT position is something we are unhappy about and that we're about to address that particular position."

We're looking at guys IN CASE we need to sign one later on. Doing research, getting guys on film. Preparing for IF we need help down the road.

ObsiWan
09-20-2012, 05:55 PM
Probably just getting familiar with what's out there in case OL injury....or if a starter (some still in flux) or backup fails to "gel." Our Oline and its composition still has questions......questions that are unlikely to be answered before we face formidable Ds.

Actually, I heard similar words directly from Rick Smith on one of the sports radio programs - must have been a week or so ago. It's the Texans' policy to bring a different position group in every week; so if (when?) the injury bug strikes they don't have to scramble to locate the proper replacement because they've done the intel work ahead of time.

Lucky
09-21-2012, 06:55 AM
Someone make a sticky'd thread that has one post in it:

Trying out street free agents isn't really sticky worthy. It would be nice for a poster to find the previous thread, but not absolutely necessary.

RagingBull
09-21-2012, 10:06 AM
... Our Oline and its composition still has questions......questions that are unlikely to be answered before we face formidable Ds.

I think the Miller/Dumervil/Wolfe pass rush this week should help in answering the question of how they will do against an elite pass rush...

silentassassin
09-21-2012, 11:38 AM
What are the Texans looking for here, an OLineman for the practice squad or what ? They aren't looking to replace one of their 53-squad Olineman with a street-agent are they ?

I remember an interview with Rick Smith in which he explained the process for these weekly workouts.

He mentioned a list they keep for players at each position, sort of like an "emergency list." The list consists of players they can call when they experience an injury at the position.

I wouldn't look at the workout as an indication for anything, just that they're looking to keep guys in mind in case anything ever happens.

ChampionTexan
10-03-2012, 09:21 AM
Adam Caplan ‏@caplannfl

Former Colts and Eagles CB Kevin Thomas worked out for the Texans.

LINK (https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/253492599590092800)

CloakNNNdagger
10-03-2012, 12:19 PM
LINK (https://twitter.com/caplannfl/status/253492599590092800)

Tore his ACL in his rookie year after having multiple injuries through his USC career. He's got good size and good speed pre-ACL repair, but from what I remember, he's always had the Jacques Reeves syndrome of not being able to locate his balls.:wadepalm:

welsh texan
10-03-2012, 01:26 PM
I know they only look at these guys and aren't necessarily about to sign them, but you'd think they've got enough DB's on the roster despite the injury to Demps. Pretty deep in the numbers game.

Errant Hothy
10-09-2012, 12:29 PM
https://twitter.com/PHABMK6/status/255720686293770240

@PHABMK6
Forgot about Gary Guyton working out for the #Texans last week. Heard he impressed but no spot for him. There is now.

So likely Cushing replacement?

TexCanada
10-09-2012, 01:03 PM
https://twitter.com/PHABMK6/status/255720686293770240



So likely Cushing replacement?

Anybody know if we are working him out again this week?

76Texan
10-09-2012, 01:19 PM
Why didn't he make the Dolphins 53-man roster, anybody knows?

Perhaps not a good fit as the Dolphins are playing a 4-3 while the Pats a 3-4 ?

pec0sb0b
10-09-2012, 07:13 PM
At today's presser Kubiak said "We do have nine linebackers on this team, so we have been a little heavy at linebacker", so I don't really expect them to sign another linebacker, but it leaves us with a roster spot open...Sharpton won't be ready for a few weeks at least (heard he's still on crutches).

Insideop
10-10-2012, 09:39 AM
At today's presser Kubiak said "We do have nine linebackers on this team, so we have been a little heavy at linebacker", so I don't really expect them to sign another linebacker, but it leaves us with a roster spot open...Sharpton won't be ready for a few weeks at least (heard he's still on crutches).

That's not good if he's still on crutches! I hope that's a false rumor. He's been out since mid season last year and should've been off crutches a long time ago. He should be running, riding the exercise bike, and doing drills if he's coming off the PUP list shortly. If not, then he will probably be moved to IR and done for the season. Did he have a set back?

drs23
10-10-2012, 01:01 PM
That's not good if he's still on crutches! I hope that's a false rumor. He's been out since mid season last year and should've been off crutches a long time ago. He should be running, riding the exercise bike, and doing drills if he's coming off the PUP list shortly. If not, then he will probably be moved to IR and done for the season. Did he have a set back?

Yes, while rehabbing from the Quad issue he developed a hip problem. Sounds like he's done to me.

CloakNNNdagger
10-10-2012, 04:26 PM
That's not good if he's still on crutches! I hope that's a false rumor. He's been out since mid season last year and should've been off crutches a long time ago. He should be running, riding the exercise bike, and doing drills if he's coming off the PUP list shortly. If not, then he will probably be moved to IR and done for the season. Did he have a set back?

Yes, while rehabbing from the Quad issue he developed a hip problem. Sounds like he's done to me.

If pec0sb0b's "rumor" is valid, I would say that he had an additional surgical procedure that we find out about like many times we do.........after the fact.
Certainly not a good sign for return this year because they are not going to keep "dead wood" on the roster, just contemplating a POSSIBLE return.

Insideop
10-10-2012, 11:42 PM
Yes, while rehabbing from the Quad issue he developed a hip problem. Sounds like he's done to me.

Where did you hear/read this? Link?

If this is true I would think they'd move him to IR.

CloakNNNdagger
10-11-2012, 07:03 AM
Yes, while rehabbing from the Quad issue he developed a hip problem. Sounds like he's done to me.

Where did you hear/read this? Link?

If this is true I would think they'd move him to IR.

Inside Linebacker Darryl Sharpton Suffers Setback With Hip Injury (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/07/30/inside-linebacker-darryl-sharpton-suffers-setback-with-hip-injury/)
By TERRANCE HARRIS, SportsRadio 610
July 30, 2012 3:24 PM

When I wrote my last post above, I was taking into account his hip injury. Being 2 1/2 months later, there should be no legitimate reason for him to be on crutches (if this is indeed true) without an interval diagnosis/event having occurred such as quad re-tear, much worse than initially expected.reported hip injury, or surgery.

Insideop
10-11-2012, 07:48 AM
Inside Linebacker Darryl Sharpton Suffers Setback With Hip Injury (http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/07/30/inside-linebacker-darryl-sharpton-suffers-setback-with-hip-injury/)
By TERRANCE HARRIS, SportsRadio 610
July 30, 2012 3:24 PM

When I wrote my last post above, I was taking into account his hip injury. Being 2 1/2 months later, there should be no legitimate reason for him to be on crutches (if this is indeed true) without an interval diagnosis/event having occurred such as quad re-tear, much worse than initially expected.reported hip injury, or surgery.

Thanks Doc. I guess we'll just have to wait and see if they move him to IR to find out if the rumor is true or not. My hope is it's not true and he will be coming off the PUP shortly.

CloakNNNdagger
10-19-2012, 02:22 PM
Late entry.

Aaron Wilson ‏@RavensInsider

Texans tried out tight ends Donald Lee, Jake Byrne, Colin Cochart, Chase Ford and Collin Franklin

Errant Hothy
10-19-2012, 02:54 PM
Late entry.

If Supernaw needs surgery on his foot there will be several spots open on the pratice squad.

ChampionTexan
10-19-2012, 03:08 PM
If Supernaw needs surgery on his foot there will be several spots open on the pratice squad.

It looks like they signed Logan Brock to take Supernaw's place, so the only spot left is the one created when Hunter got called up.
The Texans made a swap on the practice squad Thursday. Tight end Phillip Supernaw had a stress fracture in his right foot and will be placed on practice squad injured reserve. Supernaw suffered the injury in practice Wednesday and the Texans were hopeful they wouldn’t have to place him on IR.

To replace him on the practice squad, the Texans signed tight end Logan Brock.
LINK (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/10/johnathan-joseph-misses-practice-again-phillip-supernaw-on-practice-squad-ir/)

CloakNNNdagger
10-19-2012, 03:14 PM
It looks like they signed Logan Brock to take Supernaw's place, so the only spot left is the one created when Hunter got called up.

LINK (http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/10/johnathan-joseph-misses-practice-again-phillip-supernaw-on-practice-squad-ir/)

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2040616&postcount=15

ChampionTexan
09-25-2013, 05:32 PM
Can't say I'm familiar with any of these guys other than Dowling, but it looks like yesterday was DB workout day at Reliant.

The Texans worked out cornerback Ras-I Dowling along with seven other players, according to a league source.
The Texans also tried out Jalil Brown, Eric Hagg, Mario Butler, Myron Lewis, Locyce Means, Steven Terrell and Josh Victorian.
LINK (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Texans-work-out-RasI-Dowling.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter)