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Bleed_Blu_Red
09-10-2012, 08:14 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/kubiak-not-pleased-with-run-games-performance-in-season-opener/


Well good news on Dobbins,Cush and J-Joe.

thunderkyss
09-10-2012, 08:22 PM
http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexans/2012/09/kubiak-not-pleased-with-run-games-performance-in-season-opener/



Im disappointed in how we ran the ball, Kubiak said today. We didnt run it very well at all.

He obviously doesn't realize the Dolphins were the #3 defense against the rush last year.

Texan_Bill
09-10-2012, 08:24 PM
Well, yeah!!! The running game sucked, save a couple of occasions!! The defense wasn't really sharp (with the exception of the last 6 minutes of the first half)

My thoughts on this is twofold:

A) Arian reeled off a couple of TD's when needed and,

B) In week 10, will we actucally remember the details of a Week 1 victory of 30-10 over the Phinz??? Hardly!!!
:thinking:

Bleed_Blu_Red
09-10-2012, 08:25 PM
Think it's just Kub's way of letting the players know they have to step it up.

GlassHalfFull
09-10-2012, 08:26 PM
He obviously doesn't realize the Dolphins were the #3 defense against the rush last year.

Yeah, I am sure Kubiak and the Coaching staff had no idea. :toropalm:

gary
09-10-2012, 08:29 PM
Good for Kubiak.

Wolf
09-10-2012, 08:34 PM
I know it was the cliffnotes version

I read on twitter

Houston Texans ‏@HoustonTexans

Kubiak: "We did not play well on special teams. We didn't cover well, we didn't return well." #Texans

Kubiak: Dolphins ran a lot of stuff offensively we hadn't seen to start the game. Defense settled down once they adjusted

https://twitter.com/HoustonTexans

Nawzer
09-10-2012, 08:37 PM
I caught the last bit of his segment on 610 today and he didn't sound happy. He kind of forcibly mentioned how we couldn't run the ball well, the opening possession in the 2nd half and the need to stuff it down the opponent throats even when they know what's coming.

badboy
09-10-2012, 08:40 PM
Like Antonio Smith said the fish did some things differently but the main thing is coaches made adjustments and this game not at halftime either. Another mark of a veteran team

Bulls on Parade
09-10-2012, 08:45 PM
Honestly, that opening game against Miami felt like a pre-season game to me. The Texans won 30-10 but nobody, at least the guys who want to see a Super Bowl winning team, is really happy about it. I almost feel like gearing myself up again and pretending next Sunday's game against the Jaguars is the real season opener. Whatever can get the team "up and ready" for getting to 2-0. But truth be told the Jags are not much better than the Dolphins. It may not be until Week 3 at Denver when we find out what we really have.

ArlingtonTexan
09-10-2012, 08:45 PM
I caught the last bit of his segment on 610 today and he didn't sound happy. He kind of forcibly mentioned how we couldn't run the ball well, the opening possession in the 2nd half and the need to stuff it down the opponent throats even when they know what's coming.

Just like many of us, kubiak understands that this is his best team with the best chance to go far. a couple of years ago, he would not have been as disappointed in the exact game. he is not just playing the Dolphins here, but also projecting that execution and effort against the Ravens or Patriots. I don't think it was good enough on Sunday, and apparently neither did Kubes.

Texecutioner
09-10-2012, 08:46 PM
Think it's just Kub's way of letting the players know they have to step it up.

Yep, and I like this from Kubiak. Stay on these guys. None of that Daddy Kubiak stuff. There were a lot of mishaps in the first half and it's a concern.

Good job Kubiak. Stay on top of these guys.

Bleed_Blu_Red
09-10-2012, 08:49 PM
Yep, and I like this from Kubiak. Stay on these guys. None of that Daddy Kubiak stuff. There were a lot of mishaps in the first half and it's a concern.

Good job Kubiak. Stay on top of these guys.

Ya exactly nothing is going to be given to us. So he has to set the Tone and let them know they got to bring it every week.

Wolf
09-10-2012, 08:59 PM
Just like many of us, kubiak understands that this is his best team with the best chance to go far. a couple of years ago, he would not have been as disappointed in the exact game. he is not just playing the Dolphins here, but also projecting that execution and effort against the Ravens or Patriots. I don't think it was good enough on Sunday, and apparently neither did Kubes.

yep after watching the intensity of the Bronco-Steelers game and now the Bengals-Ravens

this team can't come out flat against these guys

Nawzer
09-10-2012, 09:03 PM
Just like many of us, kubiak understands that this is his best team with the best chance to go far. a couple of years ago, he would not have been as disappointed in the exact game. he is not just playing the Dolphins here, but also projecting that execution and effort against the Ravens or Patriots. I don't think it was good enough on Sunday, and apparently neither did Kubes.

Yeah I agree that it wasn't a perfect game, but it was a good first game. I heard some delirious things on the radio today. For example, someone actually wanted the Texans to draft a QB next year in the 1st round next year and hope that he'll be better than Schaub. I think there's some major overreaction going on among the fans. If we're playing like this mid point in the season it'll be a cause for concern, but as of today I'm happy with the win.

Corrosion
09-10-2012, 09:03 PM
He obviously doesn't realize the Dolphins were the #3 defense against the rush last year.

He realizes it .... he just expects this team to perform .... Credit to the Fish tho.




Good job Kubiak. Stay on top of these guys.


You've come a long way from your pink soap days .... So has Gary as a coach.


ah wth .... have some rep.

IlliniJen
09-10-2012, 09:05 PM
Does this mark the beginning of the end of the "it's on me, guys" days?

There are no participatory trophies in football...I'm glad Kubiak is now calling things out that need improvement and holding the players responsible for their performance.

Corrosion
09-10-2012, 09:07 PM
Does this mark the beginning of the end of "it's on me, guys?"

There are no participatory trophies in football...I'm glad Kubiak is now calling things out that need improvement and holding the players responsible for their performance.

He's done so from the get go .... tho usually behind closed doors.


I think whats changed is the expectations - both his and ours. So long 2-14 .... glad you are many years in the rear view. :cowboy1:

Bleed_Blu_Red
09-10-2012, 09:12 PM
He's done so from the get go .... tho usually behind closed doors.


I think whats changed is the expectations - both his and ours. So long 2-14 .... glad you are many years in the rear view. :cowboy1:

Amen Brotha no more Expansion sqauds around here!

Texecutioner
09-10-2012, 09:13 PM
He realizes it .... he just expects this team to perform .... Credit to the Fish tho.





You've come a long way from your pink soap days .... So has Gary as a coach.


ah wth .... have some rep.

Hey, I'll give him his due when he is saying strong things and trying to keep the team focused. Good for him. I'm still not a Kubiak guy, but I'm going to always root for our team either way. I like this from him though. We had a big win, but we had a lot of holes that need to get fixed. Kubiak seems to recognize this, and I'm happy to see it. Go Kubes!!! :kingkong:

ArlingtonTexan
09-10-2012, 09:16 PM
Yeah I agree that it wasn't a perfect game, but it was a good first game. I heard some delirious things on the radio today. For example, someone actually wanted the Texans to draft a QB next year in the 1st round next year and hope that he'll be better than Schaub. I think there's some major overreaction going on among the fans. If we're playing like this mid point in the season it'll be a cause for concern, but as of today I'm happy with the win.

And we all should be happy with the win. the first order of business is to collect bunches of wins no matter who, how, when etc.

Texan_Bill
09-10-2012, 09:41 PM
Hey, I'll give him his due when he is saying strong things and trying to keep the team focused. Good for him. I'm still not a Kubiak guy, but I'm going to always root for our team either way. I like this from him though. We had a big win, but we had a lot of holes that need to get fixed. Kubiak seems to recognize this, and I'm happy to see it. Go Kubes!!! :kingkong:

Whether you're a Kubiak guy or not, Hallelujah!! You actually had some ballz to give him his due....... FINALLY!!! I'm sure next week, you'll figure out a way to kill him again.............


Over/Under, anyone on that???? :pirate:

Brisco_County
09-10-2012, 09:46 PM
Just like many of us, kubiak understands that this is his best team with the best chance to go far. a couple of years ago, he would not have been as disappointed in the exact game. he is not just playing the Dolphins here, but also projecting that execution and effort against the Ravens or Patriots. I don't think it was good enough on Sunday, and apparently neither did Kubes.

This nails it.

Texecutioner
09-10-2012, 09:54 PM
Whether you're a Kubiak guy or not, Hallelujah!! You actually had some ballz to give him his due....... FINALLY!!! I'm sure next week, you'll figure out a way to kill him again.............

Oh I've given him his due before. Several times.

But you're right, it's very rare.


Over/Under, anyone on that???? :pirate:

:piano: Let's hope it's the under. Lol!


Don't get me motivated though Bill. :d:

Corrosion
09-10-2012, 10:14 PM
Whether you're a Kubiak guy or not, Hallelujah!! You actually had some ballz to give him his due....... FINALLY!!! I'm sure next week, you'll figure out a way to kill him again.............


Over/Under, anyone on that???? :pirate:

Been a lot of hate on Gary over the years here .... and Tex has been one of the more vocal .... thats why I had to give him some rep .... a couple others are still flying "Fire Kubiak" soap in their avatars.


First time head coach handed a 2-14 team .... we had to expect some growing pains. I think his ..... on the job training is nearly complete and he's one of the better coaches in this league. (learning is never complete) Then again , I may be biased .... Have to give ole Bob some credit for the hiring of SonofBum.

AMartin56
09-10-2012, 11:55 PM
We have loads of talent on both sides of the ball....if we manage to avoid injury there are only a few things that can keep us from going deep into the playoffs and unfortunately a few of them reared their ugly heads yesterday:

A Kubiak coached team comes out flat, plays MAYBE one good half and generally lacks intensity. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.

Kubiak's game management has me scratching my head again...why go for the long field goal in the first half? This is the kind of %^$% that got Kevin Gilbride punched back in the day. Our defense is playing pretty well at that point despite some issues against the run...why leave them out to dry by giving Miami a short field?

Kubiak makes a poor decision on a challenge...great effort by Jean but he didn't go to ground with the ball! Seemed like a pretty obvious drop to me.

I'm glad we won....beating ANY NFL team by 20 is quite an accomplishment. But the first quarter and a half was VERY painful to watch and I hope our future victories don't require a total meltdown by our opponent. I like exciting football games as much as the next guy, but I'd really like to enjoy an end to end dominant performance for once rather than sitting there and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Other less talented teams manage to pull that off from time to time.

texanhead08
09-11-2012, 12:32 AM
I saw the right side of the oline get blown up way too much yesterday, especially in that series after Andre set us up at the 3yd line. They have to get much better starting this week.

Wolf6151
09-11-2012, 02:36 AM
I'm glad Kubiak isn't satified with good enough. He should seek and expect perfection from his players even if it's an impossible goal. No matter how good you are, your never good enough.

Corrosion
09-11-2012, 02:49 AM
A Kubiak coached team comes out flat, plays MAYBE one good half and generally lacks intensity. THIS HAS GOT TO STOP.

Maybe they came out too amped up - expecting too much of themselves ... Thats a serious possibility. Having played College sports , alibet back in the stone age , I can attest to that being a factor.


Kubiak's game management has me scratching my head again...why go for the long field goal in the first half? This is the kind of %^$% that got Kevin Gilbride punched back in the day. Our defense is playing pretty well at that point despite some issues against the run...why leave them out to dry by giving Miami a short field?

The defense is stopping them .... Why not take a shot at a long FG and put POINTS ON THE BOARD ?! If its a miss .... your defense is stopping them anyhow.
No no , lets send out Truk and punt (yes I know - This aint your 3 years ago Texans is exactly my bleeping point).

Kubiak makes a poor decision on a challenge...great effort by Jean but he didn't go to ground with the ball! Seemed like a pretty obvious drop to me.

I was sitting at home with the benefit of the replay on TV .... and I woulda thrown the challenge flag. The replay showing him lose the ball on the way down wasnt shown until after the replay official made his decision .... and all Gary has to go on is what he see's on the bhig screen and what LeStar has to say to him. - Show your players you have faith in them , throw th damn flag.


It wasnt until after the replay official made the call that I realized it was an incompletion - If I have the advantage of the replay .... what you got to say now ?! (The crowd went bonkers when that red flag hit the turf).


I'm glad we won....beating ANY NFL team by 20 is quite an accomplishment. But the first quarter and a half was VERY painful to watch and I hope our future victories don't require a total meltdown by our opponent. I like exciting football games as much as the next guy, but I'd really like to enjoy an end to end dominant performance for once rather than sitting there and waiting for the other shoe to drop. Other less talented teams manage to pull that off from time to time.

This is the NFL .... not your neighborhood over 40 league (where I could dominate).

Teams are very close in talent , just so happens the Fish strengths were polar opposite to the Texans strengths. They were afterall the #3 rushing defense in the NFL last season giving up ~95 per against last season and the Texans were the #2 rushing offense .... Immovable object meets irresistible force.

I really cant stress enough how much credit the Fish defense deserves a heap of credit for stopping the Texans rushing offense. We fans expect the Texans to rush the ball effectively when everyone in the building knows they are going to run the ball .... So do the Texans. The Fish knew the Texans were running the ball and they allowed only ~2.3ypc on 35 carries.\

Rush Offense ~ Rush Defense = 0
QB play VS QB play = The difference in the game.



Ive been very critical in other threads but I believe the expectations of a dominating performance against the Fish are .... a stretch. Tis afterall the NFL .... Any given Sunday.

HOU-TEX
09-11-2012, 09:03 AM
Didn't read through the entire thread, but I think I'd be unhappy too if my team couldn't punch it in with a 1st and goal from the 7 and a 1st and goal from the 3.

CloakNNNdagger
09-11-2012, 09:55 AM
Didn't read through the entire thread, but I think I'd be unhappy too if my team couldn't punch it in with a 1st and goal from the 7 and a 1st and goal from the 3.

You know, I don't remember seeing Clutts out there (except STs). He probably wasn't yet up to snuff on our system. But I have a hard time believing that not having a real FB anytime in the running game didn't have a significant negative impact on our rushing attack, especially on the 2 RZ/"goal line" situations.

badboy
09-11-2012, 09:59 AM
And we all should be happy with the win. the first order of business is to collect bunches of wins no matter who, how, when etc.Disagree 1000 percent AT. I don't want to watch a season of sloppy wins; that is what competition is about to get better. Wins are good only if they mean something. I don't want to have an empty award for anything.

badboy
09-11-2012, 10:25 AM
You know, I don't remember seeing Clutts out there (except STs). He probably wasn't yet up to snuff on our system. But I have a hard time believing that not having a real FB anytime in the running game didn't have a significant negative impact on our rushing attack, especially on the 2 RZ/"goal line" situations.Agreed. Our "system" from goal line should be 'Clutts clears obstacles in path of Foster'. He doesn't need much time to learn that. He is a vet. Put him in and tell him which side to run to as he blocks.

thunderkyss
09-11-2012, 09:45 PM
Just like many of us, kubiak understands that this is his best team with the best chance to go far. a couple of years ago, he would not have been as disappointed in the exact game. he is not just playing the Dolphins here, but also projecting that execution and effort against the Ravens or Patriots. I don't think it was good enough on Sunday, and apparently neither did Kubes.

That makes the most sense. But figuring out how to get that first down starts on the side-line.

Texn4life
09-11-2012, 11:52 PM
I would rather play ugly and win than play a great, clean game and lose. Ugly wins can sometimes be more gratifying because you have to dig deep and find ways to pull it out when you're not on top of your game. That's not something we've been able to do much in the past so I'll take a few of these this year if it helps us get to 12-4 and a first round bye.

ArlingtonTexan
09-11-2012, 11:55 PM
Disagree 1000 percent AT. I don't want to watch a season of sloppy wins; that is what competition is about to get better. Wins are good only if they mean something. I don't want to have an empty award for anything.

The first criteria for getting into the Superbowl tournament is the number of wins. they don't start asking who and how much until a team does not have more than its rivals.

while i will criticize , want to see imporvement here and there along with other stuff, dominate wins and statement games are largely bunk. Ugly counts the same as pretty. Just keep adding to the win column and the Texans will play enough meaningful games in January.

Rey
09-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Agree with Arlington and 4life. Good posts.

thunderkyss
09-12-2012, 09:42 AM
The first criteria for getting into the Superbowl tournament is the number of wins. they don't start asking who and how much until a team does not have more than its rivals.

while i will criticize , want to see imporvement here and there along with other stuff, dominate wins and statement games are largely bunk. Ugly counts the same as pretty. Just keep adding to the win column and the Texans will play enough meaningful games in January.

Sounds like a Cowboy fan.

Who by the way don't know what it feels like to watch meaningful games in January.


:kitten: just say'n

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:00 AM
I saw the right side of the oline get blown up way too much yesterday, especially in that series after Andre set us up at the 3yd line. They have to get much better starting this week.

Nah, there were more poor plays on the left than the right side.

On that series, there were one on each side, but there were a difference.

On first and three, we tried to run inside left tackle.
W. Smith allowed penetration to start with.
D. Brown was not in sync with the blocking TE; he ran into the back of the TE before heading out.
This did not give the lead blocker Casey any room to go up through.

On second down, we tried a run to the right, but OD got pushed way back into the backfield. Newton got out to the second level and took out a LB; Caldwell didn't get a clean cut block on his man, but he did enough. The main thing is that the Dolphins just had an extra man flowing to the hole quickly (I'm watching the end zone shot from the coaches film on NFL game rewind).

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:12 AM
The Texans started the fourth quarter with a couple of 4 yards run to the right.
On third and 2, Schaub's pass to OD was just high. One of the LB pulled on OD's jersey lightly to slow him down just a tad.

On the next drive, the Texans got inside the redzone but failed to convert on 3rd and 2. Kubiak (and/or the OC) were to blame on this one.
The Texans tried a counter run into darkness (with the Dolphins over playing the left side of our offense. They had the line faked the blocks as if the play was going to the right side, but ran left. OD got out onto the safety, but since the OLB didn't bite, he was unblocked and prevented Foster to head upfield.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:22 AM
The Texans had a 3 and out in the fourth.

On first down, Foster gained only two to the left as W. Smith allowed penetration.

On second down, the Texans were bedazzled by a Dolphins stunt (NT/WDT).
Myers' man (the 43 WDT) went left against the grain, confusing Myers such that he didn't get out onto the NT who stunted to the right. If the DT had played normally, Myers would block him and Caldwell would get the NT.
Instead, both linemen got stucked with the DT, leaving the NT free.
Foster lost 4 on the play.

On third and 12, Foster gained only 7 to the right.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:29 AM
The next to last series was also a 3 and out.

On first down, D. Brown and W. Smith did not work together as they allowed the WDE to get into the backfield to blow up the play. Foster lost one.

On second down, the same combination (plus Casey) were weak on their blocks. Foster gained just one to the left.

On third down, once again, the Dolphins shut down that side of the field, allowing just a mere yard to Foster.

And of course, for the last series, the Texans were in victory formation.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:53 AM
The first series of the game (52yd FG attempt missed) were cut short by 3 unsuccessful pass plays (sack, incompletion, incompletion).

The O-line didn't have anything to do with those plays (including the sack).

On the sack, Schaub had 3 possible options on his left (Walter had a step on the RCB deep left, AJ somewhat open - medium deep middle - on a comebacker, and Casey late on a short out).

Looks like Schaub intended to go to Casey on the safest route, but Casey was held up a little longer than expected. Schaub hesitated and was sacked after the 4 sec mark.

Then came the incompletion to Jean.

On third down, the Texans set up a receiver screen on the left (with plenty of blockers), but for some reason, Schaub decided to go to Foster on the right for a short gain.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 10:55 AM
On the second drive of the game, the Texans ran right twice for 5 and 4.

On third and one, they went left for no gain.
If you guess W. Smith, give yourself an applaud, LOL!

76Texan
09-12-2012, 11:01 AM
On the first drive in the second quarter, Foster gained 7 on first down (the fourth play of the drive) on a toss sweep left.

He then gained just one to the left on second down.
D. Brown and Smith both were a little weak, but IMO, Foster needed to press that hole quickly. He might have left a yard or two on the field there.

On third and 2, the Texans decided to go to OD.
There was a miscommunication as the ball and the receiver didn't join.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 11:05 AM
J Jo intercepted the ball to give the offense the ball at the Dolphins 12; the Texans ended up with just a FG.

After a false start by OD, Schaub pretty much had to throw the ball away on first and 15.
The Dolphins stayed home and read the bootleg like a book.

On second down, Schaub was sacked for a loss of 8, courtesy of, you guess it, W. Smith.

On third and forever, the Texans opted to play it safe and ran Foster to the left for 7.

76Texan
09-12-2012, 11:10 AM
The next series saw Foster rumbled 14 yards for a TD to the right.

Foster scored again on the next series, but not without some fight.
He lost one yard (thanks again to W. Smith) before gained 2 for the TD (with some effort of his own) also to the left. The blockers did barely enough.

The last series of the half saw 3 straight passes, with the TD going to AJ as we all know it.

ArlingtonTexan
09-12-2012, 04:44 PM
Sounds like a Cowboy fan.

Who by the way don't know what it feels like to watch meaningful games in January.


:kitten: just say'n

I think you are just giving me a jab, but...

since I have to pay extra everytime I buy toilet paper (or anything else), I want that overrrated stadium full every week so that Arlington's portion can be paid quick as possible.

Not a fan in the true sense, but I don't want those dudes sucking, so I might have a chance of get that extra sales tax back. before I retire or move.