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Lurvinator11
08-30-2012, 09:06 PM
Didn't know if this goes in this thread or not, but should post anyway. Sports Radio 610 reports that a 45 year old man fell to his death at the game tonight at Reliant Stadium. What a sad, tragic story. Our thoughts and condolences go out to him and his entire family. I just hope the national news doesn't make a big deal out of this.

Rey
08-30-2012, 09:07 PM
Dang.

That's so sad.

Playoffs
08-30-2012, 09:12 PM
Brutal...
HOUSTON (CBS Houston) – Sources at Reliant Stadium say a 45-year old man attending the game fell to his death while horse-playing on an escalator.

He was allegedly trying to slide down the outside of the handrail on the escalator when he fell.

pbat488
08-30-2012, 09:16 PM
terrible and sad news, but really?

darwin award right there.

Bleed_Blu_Red
08-30-2012, 09:17 PM
Wow, What a shame my prayers and condolences to his family

Bulls on Parade
08-30-2012, 09:17 PM
Even though he was horse-playing are there any plans to honor him in some way? They made a statue for the father who fell to his death at the Rangers game last year. He was a firefighter and tried to snag a ball from Josh Hamilton for his son. Totally different situation but every life is precious, IMO.

Texan_Bill
08-30-2012, 09:19 PM
Didn't know if this goes in this thread or not, but should post anyway. Sports Radio 610 reports that a 45 year old man fell to his death at the game tonight at Reliant Stadium. What a sad, tragic story. Our thoughts and condolences go out to him and his entire family. I just hope the national news doesn't make a big deal out of this.

Yessir!! Certainly thoughts and prayers go out to his family, immediate or otherwise and his friends. May God Bless and help heal their loss...


*****

Dang scary having just turned 45 myself.

Bulls on Parade
08-30-2012, 09:22 PM
I fell so awful hearing this news. I hate it when anybody dies at a sporting event. I had barely recovered from last year's incident at the Ballpark at Arlington. This news certainly diminishes my excitement for next Sunday's opening day game against Miami on September 9. Hopefully the Texans honor his life with some type of pre-game moment of silence before kick off to that game.

ArlingtonTexan
08-30-2012, 09:23 PM
Even though he was horse-playing are there any plans to honor him in some way? They made a statue for the father who fell to his death at the Rangers game last year. He was a firefighter and tried to snag a ball from Josh Hamilton for his son. Totally different situation but every life is precious, IMO.

Can we at least let the guys family start to sort this out?

GlassHalfFull
08-30-2012, 09:25 PM
HOUSTON (CBS Houston) Sources at Reliant Stadium say a 45-year old man attending the game fell to his death while horse-playing on an escalator.

He was allegedly trying to slide down the outside of the handrail on the escalator when he fell.

I wonder if this is why they didn't want to let anyone on the escalator tonight. They were pushing everybody to the ramps, I had to plead bad ankle to ride down.

Cjeremy635
08-30-2012, 09:30 PM
Even though he was horse-playing are there any plans to honor him in some way? They made a statue for the father who fell to his death at the Rangers game last year. He was a firefighter and tried to snag a ball from Josh Hamilton for his son. Totally different situation but every life is precious, IMO.

I'm not trying to come off as a douche, but I don't think you honor some guy who was doing something he shouldn't have been doing in the first place. Is it unfortunate? Yes. It's a shame that his life was cut short by a dumb decision he made and now his family has to suffer.

Would you honor him if he was playing in traffic outside the stadium and died?

SAMURAITEXAN
08-30-2012, 09:30 PM
So Sad.

SouthSideTexan
08-30-2012, 09:44 PM
I'm not trying to come off as a douche, but I don't think you honor some guy who was doing something he shouldn't have been doing in the first place. Is it unfortunate? Yes. It's a shame that his life was cut short by a dumb decision he made and now his family has to suffer.

Would you honor him if he was playing in traffic outside the stadium and died?


Wow..... I like the comment and I couldn't agree more. Hand rails are for hands, not asses. Escalators have a hand rail about 40" high to protect you from falling off. It's a shame he died because of something so stupid, but in the end....who's fault was it???

GuerillaBlack
08-30-2012, 09:47 PM
It's sad, but wow dude. Could be an entry on "100 weirdest ways people die" tv show.

Texn4life
08-30-2012, 09:49 PM
Regardless of how he died I still would like to pay my respects to his family. I don't know all of the details, but it sounds horrific. In my job we preach safety 24/7. Hopefully the Texans can take this opportunity to pass that along to fans as well. Condolences to family and friends of the deceased.

pirbroke
08-30-2012, 09:49 PM
Well let this not so bright ghost help us reach the super bowl this year, just give him a few games so he can practice moving that quarter before he moves the ball in our favor.

GP
08-30-2012, 10:55 PM
No Kareem Jackson jokes, please.

Imatexanfan
08-30-2012, 11:18 PM
No Kareem Jackson jokes, please.

HA! damn...

Bulls on Parade
08-30-2012, 11:21 PM
Regardless of how he died I still would like to pay my respects to his family. I don't know all of the details, but it sounds horrific. In my job we preach safety 24/7. Hopefully the Texans can take this opportunity to pass that along to fans as well. Condolences to family and friends of the deceased.
Well said and written. I was trying to come across the same words but couldn't at the time. I'm just deeply saddened by what happened and I honestly feel horrible at the moment. I was hoping to feel excited and count down the days until Week 1 against Miami, but instead I don't feel like football is all that important right now. Maybe after a few days as we start to hear more on the story I'll be able to feel alright. My thoughts and prayers also go out to his family.

disaacks3
08-30-2012, 11:26 PM
I wonder if this is why they didn't want to let anyone on the escalator tonight. They were pushing everybody to the ramps, I had to plead bad ankle to ride down.

Yes, that's why they were doing it, however senseless that might have been. He was sliding down the handrail and fell to his death at the Coke gate per my co-worker who works games and stopped me on the way out to discuss it.

Carr Bombed
08-30-2012, 11:59 PM
Not to sound like a ass, but you don't honor stupidity and the Texans shouldn't do anything before their season opener and they certainly shouldn't build a staute. (What would the statue even look like?) This isn't some father trying to catch a baseball for his little boy, it's a 45 yo drunken idiot who was trying to slide down a escalator. This is not the first time a drunk fell to his death either, it happened at a Jets game a few years ago. Just chalk it up to in life your choices have consequences (sometimes grave) and move on. When you make a stupid decision, sometimes it can be the last one you make. Sadly it happens everyday.

I just hope it wasn't Bill.

brakos82
08-31-2012, 12:51 AM
Dang scary having just turned 45 myself.

I have to admit.... I was afraid it was you for a minute there. :kitten:

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 04:20 AM
I have to admit.... I was afraid it was you for a minute there. :kitten:
Guy sits down low on the field. He don't have too far to fall.

Condolences for the fan who died tonight.

TheMatrix31
08-31-2012, 05:52 AM
Shame for his family. The kids have to grow up fatherless and the wife has to go through all of this because of utter stupidity.

GuerillaBlack
08-31-2012, 06:46 AM
Well said and written. I was trying to come across the same words but couldn't at the time. I'm just deeply saddened by what happened and I honestly feel horrible at the moment. I was hoping to feel excited and count down the days until Week 1 against Miami, but instead I don't feel like football is all that important right now. Maybe after a few days as we start to hear more on the story I'll be able to feel alright. My thoughts and prayers also go out to his family.

People die everyday man. You'll be alright. Just don't try to slide down escalator handrails.

BIG TORO
08-31-2012, 07:46 AM
Does anyone know if it was before or after the game? I seen an Ambulance pulling in to the stadium right before the game started. Just wondering if it was for this guy.

chicagotexan2
08-31-2012, 07:57 AM
I'm not trying to come off as a douche, but I don't think you honor some guy who was doing something he shouldn't have been doing in the first place. Is it unfortunate? Yes. It's a shame that his life was cut short by a dumb decision he made and now his family has to suffer.

Would you honor him if he was playing in traffic outside the stadium and died?

Same here. It's sad that this guy lost his life and who knows who he left behind to mourn him. But if he was indeed doing some clowning around that led to his death I hope they don't erect a statue in his honor.

SheTexan
08-31-2012, 08:23 AM
Very sad for his family and friends, and my prayers will go up for them. BUT, to honor a drunk who made a childish decision is insane!

I was wondering why they were pushing fans to the ramp, and now I know. BUT, he could have fallen over the rails just as easily.

WHY do fans feel they have to drink themselves TO DEATH!! SMH!!

nero THE zero
08-31-2012, 09:26 AM
Even though he was horse-playing are there any plans to honor him in some way? They made a statue for the father who fell to his death at the Rangers game last year. He was a firefighter and tried to snag a ball from Josh Hamilton for his son. Totally different situation but every life is precious, IMO.

I imagine the folks at Reliant are on a much different thought process now. i.e., How do we insure we are not liable, and how to do we insure this does not happen ever again?

Fat chance they encourage this type of behavior by canonizing the guy.

ChampionTexan
08-31-2012, 09:33 AM
I imagine the folks at Reliant are on a much different thought process now. i.e., How do we insure we are not liable, and how to do we insure this does not happen ever again?

Fat chance they encourage this type of behavior by canonizing the guy.

While the idea of any sort of "tribute" to this guy is just ridiculous, I'm not sure I see it as something that would encourage future behavior similar to this. I'm thinking being dead would trump being canonized.

I haven't heard of any incidences of fans flinging themselves off of the stands at the Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.

TexansBlood
08-31-2012, 09:33 AM
Very sad for his family and friends, and my prayers will go up for them. BUT, to honor a drunk who made a childish decision is insane!

I was wondering why they were pushing fans to the ramp, and now I know. BUT, he could have fallen over the rails just as easily.

WHY do fans feel they have to drink themselves TO DEATH!! SMH!!

How do you know he was drunk!?!?

ubecool454
08-31-2012, 09:56 AM
How do you know he was drunk!?!?

I hope he was drunk because if he wasn't then he had to be very stupid. I feel for his family and hope he was drunk and didn't feel anything. This seemed like one of those "hold my beer and watch this" moments. God bless the man and his family.

silentassassin
08-31-2012, 10:04 AM
Caught wind of this last night when they wouldn't let anyone down the Coca-Cola Gate Ramp, the one I usually enter/exit.

StarStruck
08-31-2012, 10:04 AM
My assumption is that the young man was drunk based on the behavior. Of course, there could be another explanation to why a person would exit from the 6th level, slide down the escalator then risk falling another four or five stories to the ground. Perhaps?

I also read that the victim was 25 instead of 45.

nero THE zero
08-31-2012, 10:10 AM
While the idea of any sort of "tribute" to this guy is just ridiculous, I'm not sure I see it as something that would encourage future behavior similar to this. I'm thinking being dead would trump being canonized.

I haven't heard of any incidences of fans flinging themselves off of the stands at the Rangers Ballpark in Arlington.

Encourage, as in, not discourage.

Say Watt
08-31-2012, 10:19 AM
I have/had a working relationship with the individual.

Reports are saying he was 45. He was actually 25.

Very unfortunate this happened. I don't know if he was drunk or not but regardless, God rest his soul.

Yankee_In_TX
08-31-2012, 10:19 AM
Does anyone know if it was before or after the game? I seen an Ambulance pulling in to the stadium right before the game started. Just wondering if it was for this guy.

I believe around 8 PM.


Also, there are reports in the news that had been drinking.

Carr Bombed
08-31-2012, 10:24 AM
How do you know he was drunk!?!?

Really? You don't have to be Sherlock Holmes to figure this one out.

Marcus
08-31-2012, 10:24 AM
I hope all of you got your walking shoes broken in for the next game. Expect to see all the escalators "down for maintenance". Watch some ambulance chaser convince the family that somehow it was negligence on the stadium's part because the escalator wasn't 'idiot-proofed' enough.

And yet, we want to 'honor' him? Jesus.

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 10:32 AM
I hope all of you got your walking shoes broken in for the next game. Expect to see all the escalators "down for maintenance". Watch some ambulance chaser convince the family that somehow it was negligence on the stadium's part because the escalator wasn't 'idiot-proofed' enough.

And yet, we want to 'honor' him? Jesus.

yep, that was my thought about the ramps, as well.

I've got tickets to the Miami game...6th level. I don't mind the walking, though, as I usually need it from all that grub I've eaten while tailgating.

I feel bad for the dude's family and those fans that had to witness it. I can't imagine what I'd tell my kid if he had seen something so tragically senseless. I'd probably use it as a lesson to warn against stupidity, to be quite honest.

GlassHalfFull
08-31-2012, 10:37 AM
I hope all of you got your walking shoes broken in for the next game. Expect to see all the escalators "down for maintenance". Watch some ambulance chaser convince the family that somehow it was negligence on the stadium's part because the escalator wasn't 'idiot-proofed' enough.

And yet, we want to 'honor' him? Jesus.

Yep, I agree. I have a bad feeling about how Reliant is going to overreact to this isolated incident.

HoustonFrog
08-31-2012, 10:39 AM
Just read this on ESPN. 25 years old and fell from 5th level to ground. Prayers to his family and loved ones.

Dread-Head
08-31-2012, 10:43 AM
I heard about this and prayed that it wasn't anyone I knew. Each time I've ever attended a game the escalators messed with my head. I just don't like them and the thought of falling freaked me out. I thought it was just an irrational fear. My condolences to that poor man's family.

ubecool454
08-31-2012, 10:44 AM
yep, that was my thought about the ramps, as well.

I've got tickets to the Miami game...6th level. I don't mind the walking, though, as I usually need it from all that grub I've eaten while tailgating.

I feel bad for the dude's family and those fans that had to witness it. I can't imagine what I'd tell my kid if he had seen something so tragically senseless. I'd probably use it as a lesson to warn against stupidity, to be quite honest.

Yeah double barrel way to go....walk it off..lol

ubecool454
08-31-2012, 10:45 AM
double barrel:jogger:

chicagotexan2
08-31-2012, 10:47 AM
Just read this on ESPN. 25 years old and fell from 5th level to ground. Prayers to his family and loved ones.

Ahh man, this is just sad news.

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 10:47 AM
Yeah double barrel way to go....walk it off..lol

I feel like laying around like a stuff python after some of those tailgate meals.

Long walk from yellow lot and a hike up 6 stories. I'll be ready for the game once I catch my breath and take a nap! ;)

Cjeremy635
08-31-2012, 10:48 AM
I fell so awful hearing this news. I hate it when anybody dies at a sporting event. I had barely recovered from last year's incident at the Ballpark at Arlington. This news certainly diminishes my excitement for next Sunday's opening day game against Miami on September 9. Hopefully the Texans honor his life with some type of pre-game moment of silence before kick off to that game.

I chuckled when I read this. It reminded me of that scene in The Hangover:

Alan: What if he's dead? I can't afford to lose anybody close to me again. It hurts too much. I was so upset when my grandpa died.

Phil: I'm sorry... How did he die?

Alan: World War II.

Phil: Died in the battle?

Alan: No he was skiing in Vermont. It was just during World War II.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVB0wQE6cxc

I may just be a callus *******, but I have no idea how you can be that tramatized by someone's death that you didn't know....that you're just now getting over it a year later. Neither event was like the World Trade Center attack where thousands died in one event. That was a shocker and people took it personal. These events were no different than what goes on every single day throughout the world.

SheTexan
08-31-2012, 12:53 PM
How do you know he was drunk!?!?

Only from news reports. Take that for what it's worth. Heard it on the news, and read about it on the Internet.

disaacks3
08-31-2012, 01:03 PM
Yep, I agree. I have a bad feeling about how Reliant is going to overreact to this isolated incident. Good thing the Texans don't have a history of overreating to events like this...oh wait.

:wadepalm:

gwallaia
08-31-2012, 01:44 PM
Thinking back to the many times I have been on these very same escalators, they are all within building code requirements and have yellow warning labels on them cautioning people on proper use.

To fall off of an escalator requires a lot of effort. There will be lawyers involved however.

Very sad for the young man and his family. I hope they are able to find peace.

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 01:55 PM
Thinking back to the many times I have been on these very same escalators, they are all within building code requirements and have yellow warning labels on them cautioning people on proper use.

To fall off of an escalator requires a lot of effort. There will be lawyers involved however.

Very sad for the young man and his family. I hope they are able to find peace.

I know you're an architect and I'm not disputing your words or expertise at all. Just saying that building code doesn't factor in certain things and is not an automatic conclusion that it is safe. Not a lot of effort required for disaster in a place where they sell alcohol and have tons of people around. Roughhousing in a joyous stadium can easily been done. That being said... I don't see how the Texans will overreact to this. More safety barriers is always a good thing.

The callousness in this thread is par the course for the human race. Ship happens.

ubecool454
08-31-2012, 01:55 PM
Thinking back to the many times I have been on these very same escalators, they are all within building code requirements and have yellow warning labels on them cautioning people on proper use.

To fall off of an escalator requires a lot of effort. There will be lawyers involved however.

Very sad for the young man and his family. I hope they are able to find peace.

The guy is at peace but his family is not. It does require a lot of effort to fall off a escalator.

Porky
08-31-2012, 02:16 PM
I am probably in the minority and I do feel sorry for the family...but I don't feel the least bit of concern about this bozo. If you stand on 610 in rush hour and get run over, am I supposed to feel sorry for you?

And before you say he was drunk and therefore he is excused, I don't buy that at all. He is the one who got drunk, I'm sure on purpose, and then acted like a complete moron. It's his responsibility - he committed suicide by stupidity. One less idiot in the gene pool. And people want to erect statues? What the hell is wrong with you people?

I've long been advocating a stamp on your hand or something every time you buy a beer. Limit it to one beer per half. That's plenty enough to get your buzz on without getting sloppy drunk. Sorry, but too many people are drinking like crazy, then the game ends, and they are out on the streets ready to kill someone. It also leads to disorderly conduct at the games. The Texans and all other NFL teams are nothing but hypocrites who talk out of both sides of their mouth because they make a ton of money off of beer. They say one thing, but do another.

And yes that means you cannot buy two beers and say one is for your buddy/wife - he or she needs to get her butt to the stand herself and buy one if they want one. Granted, there can be some cheating (go with me and then give me your beer) but that will cut WAY down on obnoxious and dangerous behavior leading to the death of themselves or others.

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 02:21 PM
I am probably in the minority and I do feel sorry for the family...but I don't feel the least bit of concern about this bozo. If you stand on 610 in rush hour and get run over, am I supposed to feel sorry for you?

And before you say he was drunk and therefore he is excused, I don't buy that at all. He is the one who got drunk, I'm sure on purpose, and then acted like a complete moron. It's his responsibility - he committed suicide by stupidity. One less idiot in the gene pool. And people want to erect statues? What the hell is wrong with you people?

I've long been advocating a stamp on your hand or something every time you buy a beer. Limit it to one beer per half. That's plenty enough to get your buzz on without getting sloppy drunk. Sorry, but too many people are drinking like crazy, then the game ends, and they are out on the streets ready to kill someone. It also leads to disorderly conduct at the games. The Texans and all other NFL teams are nothing but hypocrites who talk out of both sides of their mouth because they make a ton of money off of beer. They say one thing, but do another.

And yes that means you cannot buy two beers and say one is for your buddy/wife - he or she needs to get her butt to the stand herself and buy one if they want one. Granted, there can be some cheating (go with me and then give me your beer) but that will cut WAY down on obnoxious and dangerous behavior leading to the death of themselves or others.

I think what you're asking is unproductive. Most of the drunkness that I see comes from the tailgates. Nobody (as well as I) wants that taken away. You can't regulate what someone drinks before they come in the stadium and by then the alcohol has taken full effect.

Porky
08-31-2012, 02:38 PM
I think what you're asking is unproductive. Most of the drunkness that I see comes from the tailgates. Nobody (as well as I) wants that taken away. You can't regulate what someone drinks before they come in the stadium and by then the alcohol has taken full effect.

Good point. I guess the only thing that could be done is to set a rule on how much can be brought in and then have each car/truck searched and that's too much Orwellian stuff for me. I still think limiting the amount bought at the stadium will help though.

Marcus
08-31-2012, 02:39 PM
I think what you're asking is unproductive. Most of the drunkness that I see comes from the tailgates. Nobody (as well as I) wants that taken away. You can't regulate what someone drinks before they come in the stadium and by then the alcohol has taken full effect.

And by the same token we're not supposed be callous when someone drinks and falls off the escalator, and in turn makes it more difficult for everyone else?

And you want to erect a statue for this moron? You people are nuts.

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 02:55 PM
I think what you're asking is unproductive. Most of the drunkness that I see comes from the tailgates. Nobody (as well as I) wants that taken away. You can't regulate what someone drinks before they come in the stadium and by then the alcohol has taken full effect.

Well, they can through public intoxication laws. But obviously the last thing the Texans want to do is piss off a customer base and potentially hurt a major revenue stream in alcohol sales.

They could make the entire facility a dry zone for all I care, but full discloser, I no longer drink booze.

Carr Bombed
08-31-2012, 02:55 PM
I know you're an architect and I'm not disputing your words or expertise at all. Just saying that building code doesn't factor in certain things and is not an automatic conclusion that it is safe. Not a lot of effort required for disaster in a place where they sell alcohol and have tons of people around. Roughhousing in a joyous stadium can easily been done. That being said... I don't see how the Texans will overreact to this. More safety barriers is always a good thing.

The callousness in this thread is par the course for the human race. Ship happens.

Yeah let's bubble wrap the planet to protect the idiots from themselves. :rolleyes:

Also what you call callousness I call reality and this doesn't have anything to do with some negative reflection on the human race. In my line of work I have to deal with cases like this all the time, sorry if I'm not sensitive enough.

I feel bad for his family and that will be a horrible funeral.. a completely unneccesary funeral. It can't be easy to bury a son, because he was a idiot who tried to ride down a escalator rail. Again feel sorry for the family, but this guy did something incredibly stupid.. A thing that parents should tell their kids about so hopefully nobody repeats his lapse in judgement.

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 02:58 PM
And by the same token we're not supposed be callous when someone drinks and falls off the escalator, and in turn makes it more difficult for everyone else?

And you want to erect a statue for this moron? You people are nuts.
I never advocated putting up a statue. All I ever did was offer my condolences.

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 03:00 PM
Well, they can through public intoxication laws. But obviously the last thing the Texans want to do is piss off a customer base and potentially hurt a major revenue stream in alcohol sales.

They could make the entire facility a dry zone for all I care, but full discloser, I no longer drink booze.

I also do not drink alcohol myself. Not against it. Just not a fan of the taste nor the buzz. I entertain myself in other ways that works for me. That being said, I wouldn't be for an alcohol ban. I would definitely support reasonable public intoxication enforcement.

Stemp
08-31-2012, 03:03 PM
What happened sucks, but you can't save people from their own stupidity. The only thing they might have been able to do was put a plexiglass wall along the side to make it harder to go over.

But then again, what the difference between what happened and someone climbing on the walls of the ramps and falling from there?

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 03:06 PM
Yeah let's bubble wrap the planet to protect the idiots from themselves. :rolleyes:

Also what you call callousness I call reality and this doesn't have anything to do with some negative reflection on the human race. In my line of work I have to deal with cases like this all the time, sorry if I'm not sensitive enough.

I feel bad for his family and that will be a horrible funeral.. a completely unneccesary funeral. It can't be easy to bury a son, because he was a idiot who tried to ride down a escalator rail. Again feel sorry for the family, but this guy did something incredibly stupid.. A thing that parents should tell their kids about so hopefully nobody repeats his lapse in judgement.

I'm with you on the bubble wrapping for the most part but I am factoring in legal ramifications in the form of lawsuits.

Fair enough. I wasn't asking you to be more sensitive. Let me try to clarifiy... I'm just noticing that the attitudes in the thread are increasingly jaded when it comes to their fellow human these days. I, myself, am not there yet. Call me naive if you like but I do still try to be wary, considerate, and kind of others and their downfalls. He made a bad decision or had a freak accident and it cost him his life. How can put his loss of life to use? By learning from his mistakes and bettering things so they don't happen again. Yeah, real simple thinking by me but it is what I am.

Cjeremy635
08-31-2012, 03:13 PM
I think what you're asking is unproductive. Most of the drunkness that I see comes from the tailgates. Nobody (as well as I) wants that taken away. You can't regulate what someone drinks before they come in the stadium and by then the alcohol has taken full effect.

OK.....so let me get this right. You thing it's unproductive to regulate alchohol at tailgating or in the stadium, but it's OK to blame the existing safety code guidelines for escalators. Gotcha.

You can't save people from themselves man.

If I decide to douse myself with gasoline and set myself on fire, are you going to blame the petrol companies for making that $hit flamable? I mean really....it's basically the same thing.

People know what they should and shouldn't do. You talk about how fast you like to drive your motorcycle. If you're doing 200mph (I don't know the fastest you go) and you wreck your damn bike....chances are pretty good you're not walking away from that. Is it the motorcycle companies fault you went that fast or is it yours?

badboy
08-31-2012, 03:18 PM
Authorities have identified a 25-year-old Houston man who fell to his death while horsing around on an escalator at Reliant Stadium while attending the Texans preseason finale Thursday.

The man allegedly was trying to slide down the outside of the handrail on the escalator at the Coca-Cola Gate near the northeast side of the stadium at about 8:10 p.m. when he fell three stories, landing on the pavement. He was identified as Jonathan Kelly by the Harris County Institute of Forensic Sciences.

Police could not confirm the man was horse-playing before he fell, said Jodi Silva, a spokesman with the Houston Police Department. Silva said HPD is investigating the case and it is being looked at as an accidental death.

Kelly was attending the game with some friends, said a co-worker who was not at the event and asked that his name not be published.

Full article: http://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/article/Reliant-Stadium-checks-escalator-after-fan-s-3829474.php

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 03:29 PM
What happened sucks, but you can't save people from their own stupidity. The only thing they might have been able to do was put a plexiglass wall along the side to make it harder to go over.

But then again, what the difference between what happened and someone climbing on the walls of the ramps and falling from there?

I was at a Ron White show at Verizon theater with my dad a few years ago and a lady interrupted one of his jokes by falling over the rail of the second level.

Of course, Ron had to stop his set and the entire audience waited for the ambulance crew to arrive and carry her off. She was trashed when she fell, and Ron White showed no mercy about it after she was gone. His jokes were brutal, but funny as anything.

Like John Wayne said: "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid."

StarStruck
08-31-2012, 03:34 PM
I read the article and just realized this. They have security personnel at entrances and exits to the elevators as well as at all gates. This could pose a huge problem for the company in charge of security for the stadium because it is my belief they are on post at the areas to insure that guests exit safely and to stop any behavior that could be deemed unsafe.

StarStruck
08-31-2012, 03:36 PM
I was at a Ron White show at Verizon theater with my dad a few years ago and a lady interrupted one of his jokes by falling over the rail of the second level.

Of course, Ron had to stop his set and the entire audience waited for the ambulance crew to arrive and carry her off. She was trashed when she fell, and Ron White showed no mercy about it after she was gone. His jokes were brutal, but funny as anything.

Like John Wayne said: "Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid."

I was there that night. I initially thought it was one of the huge lights falling out of the ceiling. Fortunately she survived and appeared to be ok although she was taken to the hospital.

Stemp
08-31-2012, 03:37 PM
I read the article and just realized this. They have security personnel at entrances and exits to the elevators as well as at all gates. This could pose a huge problem for the company in charge of security for the stadium because it is my belief they are on post at the areas to insure that guests exit safely and to stop any behavior that could be deemed unsafe.

How are you going to stop someone from climbing over and falling off a crowded elevator once they have started down (or up)?

badboy
08-31-2012, 03:44 PM
How are you going to stop someone from climbing over and falling off a crowded elevator once they have started down (or up)?Lasso?

steelbtexan
08-31-2012, 04:03 PM
OK.....so let me get this right. You thing it's unproductive to regulate alchohol at tailgating or in the stadium, but it's OK to blame the existing safety code guidelines for escalators. Gotcha.

You can't save people from themselves man.

If I decide to douse myself with gasoline and set myself on fire, are you going to blame the petrol companies for making that $hit flamable? I mean really....it's basically the same thing.

People know what they should and shouldn't do. You talk about how fast you like to drive your motorcycle. If you're doing 200mph (I don't know the fastest you go) and you wreck your damn bike....chances are pretty good you're not walking away from that. Is it the motorcycle companies fault you went that fast or is it yours?

^^^^
This

I hope they dont change the rules because of one idiot.

The Texans have never done anything like this before?

Oh wait...... maybe they have a slight tendency to overeact to problems. LOL

Condolences go out to his family RIP.

NitroGSXR
08-31-2012, 04:36 PM
OK.....so let me get this right. You thing it's unproductive to regulate alchohol at tailgating or in the stadium, but it's OK to blame the existing safety code guidelines for escalators. Gotcha.

You can't save people from themselves man.

If I decide to douse myself with gasoline and set myself on fire, are you going to blame the petrol companies for making that $hit flamable? I mean really....it's basically the same thing.

People know what they should and shouldn't do. You talk about how fast you like to drive your motorcycle. If you're doing 200mph (I don't know the fastest you go) and you wreck your damn bike....chances are pretty good you're not walking away from that. Is it the motorcycle companies fault you went that fast or is it yours?

I have no idea what you are saying really. I disagree with NOTHING that you have said here. If I can prevent an accident then I will do everything in my power to prevent said accident. I just don't understand why that ticks you off. Safety barriers isn't asking for much nor is it meant to save everybody. For the greater good... would that be a fair statement?

And as for your unproductive comment. You completely misunderstood. You have it backwards. I was referring to Porky's suggestion on limiting the number of booze you can buy inside. I think enforcement there would be more unproductive than other methods such as more public intoxication enforcement or whatnot.

SheTexan
08-31-2012, 04:41 PM
I read the article and just realized this. They have security personnel at entrances and exits to the elevators as well as at all gates. This could pose a huge problem for the company in charge of security for the stadium because it is my belief they are on post at the areas to insure that guests exit safely and to stop any behavior that could be deemed unsafe.


Security does not ride the esculator with you. There are always 2-3 at the entrance to the one by Bud Plaza, & 2 at the top, but, they don't get on the escualtor at all. Nor do they have security that follows fans up the ramps, that I know of anyway.

Just like all tragic ACCIDENTS that's exactly what it was, an accident, but, an accident that could have been prevented. Where was this man's friends? I'm sure they are all second guessing their own actions today, but, I can guarantee you I would have knocked the crap out of one of my kids/grandkids or friends, before I'd let them do something so dumb. My grandson got stup*d drunk at a game a couple years ago and he spent two hours in the clinic with his Maw-Maw inflicting all kind of PAIN on his drunk body! He was escorted out of the stadium by the cops and I had my Blue Crew pals haul his a*s the rest of the way to the car. If you truly care about your friends, you protect them, even if they get ticked off. I feel very bad for this man's friends today because this is something they could have prevented, and they know it. VERY sad for all involved!!

StarStruck
08-31-2012, 04:49 PM
How are you going to stop someone from climbing over and falling off a crowded elevator once they have started down (or up)?

If he had already started down and jumped on the rail, very little. However, if he was on top of the ramp and security had left post, it could be a big problem. The situation mentioned that happened at Verizon Theater, very little could be done because the woman had left her seat and went to the rail. Another difference that the woman fell to the first floor and crashed on to another guest which could have happened at Reliant and thank goodness it didn't.

I'm not minimizing the bad decision the fan made, but companies such as Reliant spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to security service companies to ensure the safety and wellbeing of those they serve. Let's hope it was an accident that could not have been prevented with the staff on hand.

Vinny
08-31-2012, 04:49 PM
How are you going to stop someone from climbing over and falling off a crowded elevator once they have started down (or up)?plexiglass would do it I'd guess. I've used those elevators dozens of times and I think if they just screwed some tall plexiglass panels up on the edge that probably does the trick.

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 04:51 PM
I was there that night. I initially thought it was one of the huge lights falling out of the ceiling. Fortunately she survived and appeared to be ok although she was taken to the hospital.

I figured someone here would have been at that show. :)

Sad part is that he was right in the middle of a very funny routine when she fell. He never finished that story.

StarStruck
08-31-2012, 04:56 PM
I figured someone here would have been at that show. :)

Sad part is that he was right in the middle of a very funny routine when she fell. He never finished that story.

I thought it gave him some additional material for future shows. I think he was still sober when that incident happened. I didn't see him the last time he was here and wondered if he mentioned that previous show.

Double Barrel
08-31-2012, 05:00 PM
I thought it gave him some additional material for future shows. I think he was still sober when that incident happened. I didn't see him the last time he was here and wondered if he mentioned that previous show.

I thought about that, as well, because you know it's a show that he'll never forget.

He did extend his set a little longer that night. Dude was one of the funniest comics I've ever seen.

[/thread hijack] ;)

disaacks3
08-31-2012, 05:44 PM
Police could not confirm the man was horse-playing before he fell, said Jodi Silva, a spokesman with the Houston Police Department. Silva said HPD is investigating the case and it is being looked at as an accidental death.
They also can't confirm he was teleported over the side or pushed by a midget. Jesuchristo, they weren't there!

I read the article and just realized this. They have security personnel at entrances and exits to the elevators as well as at all gates. This could pose a huge problem for the company in charge of security for the stadium because it is my belief they are on post at the areas to insure that guests exit safely and to stop any behavior that could be deemed unsafe. The security is there to prevent pileups and people getting trampled to death, that's about it. Unless they're riding side-by-side with you on it, they can't prevent much.

Texan_Bill
08-31-2012, 06:31 PM
BUT, to honor a drunk who made a childish decision is insane!


:foottap: I'm a drunk child!

******************************

BTW, I like how a couple of people *ahem* feared it was me. :gun:

;)

To be quite honest, I'm not fond of heights (and yes I have jumped out of perfectly good airplanes).

On the few occasions where I've used the escalator, I don't really look down (unless it's at the tread beneath me that I'm standing on). I usually walk the ramps 80% of the time on the way in and take the stairs down on the way out.

As an aside, I didnt even make it to the 103rd home game. My first missed home game ever.

Lucky
08-31-2012, 07:04 PM
As an aside, I didnt even make it to the 103rd home game. My first missed home game ever.
102 in a row was a hellava streak. Good luck at breaking your record.

I'm dumbfounded. Hard to believe someone who do that. Glad no one else was hurt or killed trying to stop him.

Yep, I'm sticking to the ramps. It's more fun, anyway.

badboy
08-31-2012, 10:59 PM
They also can't confirm he was teleported over the side or pushed by a midget. Jesuchristo, they weren't there!

The security is there to prevent pileups and people getting trampled to death, that's about it. Unless they're riding side-by-side with you on it, they can't prevent much.well he allegedly jumped onto the rail to ride it down so I'm guessing viewers gave that info. I sort of doubt ants in his pants caused him to jump on rail & no one mentioned anyone throwing him onto the rail so I bet horseplay is a good possibility. I like the idea of teleportation as AJ could maybe learn to do that and take a TD to end zone without injury

GlassHalfFull
09-01-2012, 08:42 AM
:foottap: I'm a drunk child!

******************************

BTW, I like how a couple of people *ahem* feared it was me. :gun:

;)



Sean called home from college to check on you, Bill. He was worried. :kitten:

Malloy
09-01-2012, 11:19 AM
Sad. Thoughts is with his family.

NitroGSXR
09-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Is this the first death at Reliant? I would count construction deaths if there are any.

Speedy
09-01-2012, 12:27 PM
Safety barriers isn't asking for much nor is it meant to save everybody.

So a wall on each side that's about ,I don't know 3, 4 feet high, or whatever it is, with handrails on top of it, isn't a safety barrier?

You can't protect people from being stupid. You can't. You put a bubble around the damn thing and some idiot will jump off just to bounce down on the bubble. That's just the way it is.

Reliant doesn't need to do a damn thing, other than get the damn things to work (I swear at least one is not running at our gate almost every game). They've got warnings posted on the escalators, they've got personnel at every entry point, and the 3 foot walls along the entire ride. Keep your ass inside the ride at all times, and nothing stupid will happen.



As an aside, I didnt even make it to the 103rd home game. My first missed home game ever.

My streak is still alive. 103 and counting baby!!!!!!!!!

Playoffs
09-01-2012, 12:27 PM
The 25 year old was the husband of a friend's niece. Prayers out for her and his other family and friends.

pirbroke
09-01-2012, 12:36 PM
Just make sure those new handrails will be skateboard accessible.

mexican texan
09-01-2012, 01:18 PM
Apparently we aren't the only stadium having such instances this week. Last night a fan fell from the upper level at the Georgia Dome.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fan-falls-upper-level-georgia-022639541--ncaaf.html

Cjeremy635
09-01-2012, 02:26 PM
Apparently we aren't the only stadium having such instances this week. Last night a fan fell from the upper level at the Georgia Dome.
http://sports.yahoo.com/news/fan-falls-upper-level-georgia-022639541--ncaaf.html

Yeah, crap happens.

People know you aren't supposed to climb over handrails. What's to keep someone sitting in the 600's section of Reliant from walking to the edge and taking a swan dive off? Other than an electric chain link fence, there isn't much more you can do. If you want to do something stupid, you'll do it. Most people's brains are hard wired to where they won't take dumb risks....some aren't.

CloakNNNdagger
09-01-2012, 03:09 PM
New Reliant Stadium Safety Signage:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4129/5213087360_50597f226c.jpg

Between 12 AM and 12 AM (including at 12 AM)*: There will be no climbing onto or sliding down handrail and falling to your death.

*Any other time, please feel free to do so.

Lucky
09-01-2012, 03:13 PM
What's to keep someone sitting in the 600's section of Reliant from walking to the edge and taking a swan dive off?
If I haven't done it by now, I'm not going to. I was tempted after the 2006 and 2007 Titans games.

LondonTex
09-01-2012, 03:14 PM
such a waste of a life...really feel for his young family :(

JPPT1974
09-01-2012, 03:25 PM
Thoughts and prayers are with this person and their family. So sad!

Koolaid Time
09-01-2012, 04:40 PM
It's sad, but wow dude. Could be an entry on "100 weirdest ways people die" tv show.

New Reliant Stadium Safety Signage:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4129/5213087360_50597f226c.jpg

I have a feeling that you will have clear plexiglass panels installed along the sides of the escalators by the end of the season.

Texan_Bill
09-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Is this the first death at Reliant? I would count construction deaths if there are any.

Having worked on the project, I don't remember any construction fatalities. I really don't even remember any serious injuries reported. I'm getting old so my memory may be failing me. I do know that there were a couple of deaths related to Cowboy's Stadium whenever a tower crane fell over IIRC.

Texan_Bill
09-01-2012, 06:41 PM
Sean called home from college to check on you, Bill. He was worried. :kitten:

How sweet!?!!?!

Texan_Bill
09-01-2012, 06:47 PM
102 in a row was a hellava streak. Good luck at breaking your record.

I'm dumbfounded. Hard to believe someone who do that. Glad no one else was hurt or killed trying to stop him.

Yep, I'm sticking to the ramps. It's more fun, anyway.

Thanks man!! I'm sure there are plenty of people that now have one game up on me now... "Keeping up with the Jones' " sucks!

**********************

BTW, y'all should check out the crazy escalator in the Nati!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4146126460_a031f062ff.jpg

And this picture doesn't even really do it justice. It's pretty scary looking. Fortunately for me, my roadie there, the people that hosted Mitch, Vicki and I had 1st row seats, field level. :whew:

brakos82
09-01-2012, 07:07 PM
http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/chin_up_bar.png

texanmojo
09-01-2012, 11:32 PM
Keep your ass inside the ride at all times, and nothing stupid will happen.

Yes...it really is that simple.

SheTexan
09-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Thanks man!! I'm sure there are plenty of people that now have one game up on me now... "Keeping up with the Jones' " sucks!

**********************

BTW, y'all should check out the crazy escalator in the Nati!!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4146126460_a031f062ff.jpg

And this picture doesn't even really do it justice. It's pretty scary looking. Fortunately for me, my roadie there, the people that hosted Mitch, Vicki and I had 1st row seats, field level. :whew:

Well, I got one up on ya sweetheart, but, could care less. I haven't gone to all the games to set a record, I go cause I'm addicted to our football team! Yep, we all have our own kind of addictions!:texanbill:

Bill baby, you know I've fussed at you many times, and will continue to do so. BUT, I've never seen you put yourself or someone else in danger, and I give you a HUGE heads up for that!! You always have a designated driver, and you have MANY friends who love you enough to biatch ya out if you get out of line! That's what you do for friends! I ADORE ALL my Blue Crew family and would be heart broken if something bad happened to any of them.

rush2112mn
09-02-2012, 06:00 PM
I feel bad for the guys family. This was a senseless death. People die...but this was death that was preventable. That guy took his own life wether he meant to or not. He chose to climb up....and slide down. He chose to do it. Nobody stopped him (was there a Reliant employee nearby). I would be interested to know what his blood alcohol level was at the time of death.

This should be a lesson to people who want to horseplay around. Bad things can happen. Also, if he was intoxicated a lesson to everyone who deciedes to do stupid stuff as well such as drive...climb on things...ect ect....

steelbtexan
09-02-2012, 10:44 PM
Well, I got one up on ya sweetheart, but, could care less. I haven't gone to all the games to set a record, I go cause I'm addicted to our football team! Yep, we all have our own kind of addictions!:texanbill:

Bill baby, you know I've fussed at you many times, and will continue to do so. BUT, I've never seen you put yourself or someone else in danger, and I give you a HUGE heads up for that!! You always have a designated driver, and you have MANY friends who love you enough to biatch ya out if you get out of line! That's what you do for friends! I ADORE ALL my Blue Crew family and would be heart broken if something bad happened to any of them.

I'm looking forward to hanging out with you guys this yr.

I've changed lots, what do I need to bring?

I've met many of the blue crew members at Bubbas and I'm lookikng forward to hanging out with y'all.

Bulls on Parade
09-03-2012, 07:14 AM
Any idea if the young man who died was a poster on TexansTalk?

SheTexan
09-03-2012, 07:59 AM
I'm looking forward to hanging out with you guys this yr.

I've changed lots, what do I need to bring?

I've met many of the blue crew members at Bubbas and I'm lookikng forward to hanging out with y'all.

Check in the "tailgating" forum, platinum lot, and you'll find the Blue Crew. Someone starts a thread for every tailgate. There's already one started for the Finns game.

Look forward to seeing ya again!

BullBlitz
09-03-2012, 10:17 AM
Wow..... I like the comment and I couldn't agree more. Hand rails are for hands, not asses. Escalators have a hand rail about 40" high to protect you from falling off. It's a shame he died because of something so stupid, but in the end....who's fault was it???

Agree. Sad story, but completely avoidable.

As long he didn't fall on someone else.

NitroGSXR
09-03-2012, 10:55 AM
Agree. Sad story, but completely avoidable.

As long he didn't fall on someone else.
He did fall on somebody else. I can't remember exactly.... an older man in his 40's I believe. He was treated for minor injuries. All the more reason to put up some plexiglass. One could go the route of protecting innocents from accidents (or stupidity).

Many of you will be glad to hear that changes are unlikely.

Houston Texans President Jamey Rootes said security and safety changes were unlikely.

Bulls on Parade
09-03-2012, 11:52 AM
Many of you will be glad to hear that changes are unlikely. Houston Texans President Jamey Rootes said security and safety changes were unlikely.
That's horrible if true. Will it take another death or two before changes happen? Yes, it's foolish to clown around and slide down the handrails of the escalators but I'd argue that even the most intelligent people can do crazy things when they're drunk. Time for Jamey Rootes to earn that salary. Why not go the extra mile to make safety a number one priority?

GlassHalfFull
09-03-2012, 12:28 PM
That's horrible if true. Will it take another death or two before changes happen? Yes, it's foolish to clown around and slide down the handrails of the escalators but I'd argue that even the most intelligent people can do crazy things when they're drunk. Time for Jamey Rootes to earn that salary. Why not go the extra mile to make safety a number one priority?

Oh Good Grief. The escalators were used for 10 years without an incident. I am sure they overly comply with any safety regulations.

I am very sorry for this man's family, I am sure they are just devastated over such a senseless death. I was thinking the other day how angry I would be at my spouse if he had died in such a senseless way, it would make it very hard to grieve.

But, you can't prevent idiots and the idea that we should be surrounded in plexiglass as we make our way thru our lives is not realistic.

BullBlitz
09-03-2012, 05:09 PM
Oh Good Grief. The escalators were used for 10 years without an incident. I am sure they overly comply with any safety regulations.

I am very sorry for this man's family, I am sure they are just devastated over such a senseless death. I was thinking the other day how angry I would be at my spouse if he had died in such a senseless way, it would make it very hard to grieve.

But, you can't prevent idiots and the idea that we should be surrounded in plexiglass as we make our way thru our lives is not realistic.

It is not only realistic, but I believe that it is being studied as we speak.

The first incident is manageable, the second is not. They can't continue to allow alcohol-fueled tailgating, compound it by selling more alcohol within the stadium, and have a second incident occur on their watch. Although the escalators are constructed to code, that is not protection against a successful lawsuit. The best protection will be more safety barriers.

Expect the plexiglass or other higher barrier to be installed shortly.

Marcus
09-03-2012, 05:10 PM
That's horrible if true. Will it take another death or two before changes happen? Yes, it's foolish to clown around and slide down the handrails of the escalators but I'd argue that even the most intelligent people can do crazy things when they're drunk. Time for Jamey Rootes to earn that salary. Why not go the extra mile to make safety a number one priority?

Jeez! Are you for real?

Oh wait! You're the one who wants to erect a statue in his "honor", right?

:rolleyes:

Marcus
09-03-2012, 05:13 PM
it is not only realistic, but i believe that it is being studied as we speak.

The first incident is manageable, the second is not. They can't continue to allow alcohol-fueled tailgating, compound it by selling more alcohol within the stadium, and have a second incident occur on their watch. Although the escalators are constructed to code, that is not protection against a successful lawsuit. The best protection will be more safety barriers.

Expect idiot-proofing to be installed shortly.

fify

Texan_Bill
09-03-2012, 06:33 PM
It is not only realistic, but I believe that it is being studied as we speak.

The first incident is manageable, the second is not. They can't continue to allow alcohol-fueled tailgating, compound it by selling more alcohol within the stadium, and have a second incident occur on their watch. Although the escalators are constructed to code, that is not protection against a successful lawsuit. The best protection will be more safety barriers.

Expect the plexiglass or other higher barrier to be installed shortly.

Exactly. While I'm not sure they can finish that project by this coming Sunday, they will in turn shut the escalators down on the way out and make people walk the ramps, stairs or elevators..

Texan_Bill
09-03-2012, 06:38 PM
fify

BTW, what do you mean by "idiot proofing"?? I almost ripped off the tip of mt pinky finger just exiting the port-a-pot... Bottom line, as long as there are idiots like me, something is gonna happen..


While I jest, I would never do anything like this kid did and I would hope nobody ever would.

imatexan
09-04-2012, 12:01 AM
That's horrible if true. Will it take another death or two before changes happen? Yes, it's foolish to clown around and slide down the handrails of the escalators but I'd argue that even the most intelligent people can do crazy things when they're drunk. Time for Jamey Rootes to earn that salary. Why not go the extra mile to make safety a number one priority?

Sometimes when I go to work I have to ride on an escalator, I demand more safety!

I want a 10 fee wall on each side of the escalator and big fuzzy padded walls in case I feel like resting my arms on them during the ride...and for safety of course.

:vincepalm:

michaelm
09-06-2012, 11:44 PM
Sometimes when I go to work I have to ride on an escalator, I demand more safety!

I want a 10 fee wall on each side of the escalator and big fuzzy padded walls in case I feel like resting my arms on them during the ride...and for safety of course.

:vincepalm:

If they put plexi that's too tall, they will block what little air circulation there is on the escalators, and the next fatality will be heat related.

2012Champs
09-07-2012, 12:55 PM
It is not only realistic, but I believe that it is being studied as we speak.

The first incident is manageable, the second is not. They can't continue to allow alcohol-fueled tailgating, compound it by selling more alcohol within the stadium, and have a second incident occur on their watch. Although the escalators are constructed to code, that is not protection against a successful lawsuit. The best protection will be more safety barriers.

Expect the plexiglass or other higher barrier to be installed shortly.



Will plexiglass stop people from falling down escalators?

Double Barrel
09-07-2012, 01:29 PM
Going into our 11th season, how many times has this happened?

I believe this is the first.

Let it be a lesson to the other 99.999999% of people that goofing off in high places is dangerous. Sort of a "duh moment" but I guess some folks need the reminder....especially drunk folks.

No action needs to be taken, IMO.

gwallaia
09-07-2012, 01:48 PM
Prohibit all access to the upper levels of Reliant Stadium. Only sell tickets to the lower section. Refund money to all ticket holders to the upper sections.

ATXtexanfan
09-07-2012, 06:36 PM
Don't operate machinery while intoxicated.

kwayshauntay
09-07-2012, 07:54 PM
fify

The best designs, whether they be industrial, mechanical, or even software, are idiot-proof.

For example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTUOhYcw4ZY

TexanExile
09-07-2012, 09:36 PM
Going into our 11th season, how many times has this happened?

I believe this is the first.

Let it be a lesson to the other 99.999999% of people that goofing off in high places is dangerous. Sort of a "duh moment" but I guess some folks need the reminder....especially drunk folks.

No action needs to be taken, IMO.

100% this, and I also have to wonder if this "improvement" isn't going to just be a giant "sue me" sign directed at the deceased individual's family? "Negligence! If you would've done this a week before he would still be alive, regardless of his personal responsibility for what happened!"

On the other hand, those papers are probably already getting served whether the stadium does anything or not. Thats how we roll in 'Merica.