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TheMatrix31
08-26-2012, 04:36 PM
Well ****.

Torn groin muscle.

GuerillaBlack
08-26-2012, 04:37 PM
Well ****.

Torn groin muscle.

Suuuuuuure.

Texn4life
08-26-2012, 04:41 PM
Haha, no one saw that coming.

JamesBill
08-26-2012, 04:44 PM
de facto minor league

Playoffs
08-26-2012, 04:45 PM
Affected him the "last couple of weeks", he came in today "it was black and blue" and he "can't even pick his leg up."

Maddict5
08-26-2012, 04:52 PM
haha good call everyone... we've some pretty savvy observers around here

kingh99
08-26-2012, 04:54 PM
Good call Kubes. Get well soon Bullock. Forward.

Carr Bombed
08-26-2012, 04:55 PM
STASH!

I think Graham was winning the competition anyways.. his kicks have been straight down the middle from 50+. I'm also relieved that we're going into the season with a vet.. I really didn't want to rely on a rookie in the playoffs. Bullock is the future, but I'll take Graham right now.

Ryan
08-26-2012, 04:55 PM
I'm impressed by how he suffered through all that pain to still try and play last night, kid has guts ;)

Yankee_In_TX
08-26-2012, 04:57 PM
Posey is next.

bo orlando
08-26-2012, 04:59 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

Hottoddie
08-26-2012, 04:59 PM
Posey is next.

I agree.

LikeMike
08-26-2012, 05:00 PM
By the way... is there some sort of criteria for being placed on the IR? Is anyone checking, if the player really is injured?

Maddict5
08-26-2012, 05:00 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

nope i read lestar was involved in all wr meetings last yr after going on ir

TejasTom
08-26-2012, 05:02 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

Everything but practice.

Posted using Tapatalk from my phone. May contain errors.

Carr Bombed
08-26-2012, 05:04 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

They're still allowed to go to meetings and be with the team. It's what LeStar Jean did last season. He went to all the meetings, took mental reps, and said it has paid dividends this season.

drs23
08-26-2012, 05:07 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

I've not researched it formally but they're not allowed to practice with the squad. I think I remember references about them working on different fields with the trainers rehabbing. They have full access to the facilities as well to work on their injuries with the training staff.

Brisco_County
08-26-2012, 05:08 PM
Maybe they hire someone to nightstick these guys in the leg, Nancy Kerrigan style.

IDEXAN
08-26-2012, 05:08 PM
I agree.
Me to. I mean we got to free up a spot in the WR roster for a vet coming off of the waiver wire Friday when the league has its 53-man roster deadline.

ArlingtonTexan
08-26-2012, 05:20 PM
By the way... is there some sort of criteria for being placed on the IR? Is anyone checking, if the player really is injured?

I think the rules say something about a player who won't be immediately available to the team. If my memory works correctly practices are supposed to randomly monitored by the league for this type of violation. also, any evidence gather from media, tweets,visiting free agents could be used against a team.

That said, to answer the implied question. yes, teams put players (especially young ones) on IR even though the injury is not truly season-ending and yes those players sometimes manage to "practice." this is probably not as rampant as some of the members of this board assert, but is very common practice...not every rookie who winds up there has a fake or exaggerated injury.

Bleed_Blu_Red
08-26-2012, 05:21 PM
Damn ain't that a ***** wonder if that's why his kick offs where so weak lasnite

Texas T
08-26-2012, 05:32 PM
Posey is next.

That was my thought too-especially since he had an "injury" and couldn't play last night.

Corrosion
08-26-2012, 05:33 PM
How exactly do the IR rules work? I know the player isn't allowed to practice with the team even when healthy, but are there limits on contact with the team, such as team meetings and rehab?

Yeah , players on IR cant practice .... along with some other restrictions.

I think Graham was easily winning the competition .... this was just a move made so as the Texans didnt cut that 5th round draft pick - It was a pretty close competition IMO. Bullock has a future in the NFL ....


Posey .... Im not sure what good it does to IR him if he cant practice. He hasnt seen much game action at all , only had one ball thrown in his direction and that was way off target. I know the coaches are still high on Posey and happy with what he's done in camp .... Hard to think he wont make the roster.

wolf123
08-26-2012, 05:41 PM
Yeah , players on IR cant practice .... along with some other restrictions.

I think Graham was easily winning the competition .... this was just a move made so as the Texans didnt cut that 5th round draft pick - It was a pretty close competition IMO. Bullock has a future in the NFL ....


Posey .... Im not sure what good it does to IR him if he cant practice. He hasnt seen much game action at all , only had one ball thrown in his direction and that was way off target. I know the coaches are still high on Posey and happy with what he's done in camp .... Hard to think he wont make the roster.

Agree, Posey needs to make the 53 because if not he would of seen almost no game action in 2 years. He needs a year of meetings and reps to be ready for next year.

GP
08-26-2012, 06:22 PM
Kubiak knows Posey is not in the works this season.

He's got his guys he wants--AJ, Walter, Martin, Jean, and maybe one or two more guys for depth (Holliday???).

IMO, Kubiak wants Posey to sit and soak like Jean did last year. I expect a Phantom I.R. situation for Posey, just like we had with Jean last season.

Or, I could also see a slim chance Kubiak lets Posey slip onto the 53. Now that I think about it, it's not like there is a lot of quality depth after LeStar Jean.

JCTexan
08-26-2012, 06:36 PM
Does this put Houston at 84 players?

TexanSam
08-26-2012, 06:43 PM
Posey is next.

If he's on IR then it means he can't practice with the team either. That would be 2 full years not playing football...

mariowillshine15
08-26-2012, 06:50 PM
If he's on IR then it means he can't practice with the team either. That would be 2 full years not playing football...

I think Posey makes the 53 but doesn't see the field much if at all.

Basically just a redshirt year to get him back into the swing of things.

281
08-26-2012, 07:29 PM
I'm glad we cut Bryant Johnson... complete waste of a roster spot. Same goes for Studdard.

Brandon420tx
08-26-2012, 07:51 PM
Posey is going to be inactive all season long as the 6th WR on the roster barring injury. I think Grimes is another Inactive regular in the same situation.

CloakNNNdagger
08-26-2012, 10:20 PM
Posey is next.

Exactly......not expected to develop any time soon.

CloakNNNdagger
08-27-2012, 12:52 AM
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Thigh.jpg

Texn4life
08-27-2012, 12:54 AM
http://www.stateofthetexans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Thigh.jpg

I know good make-up when I see it. Clearly the Texans hired a hollywood make-up artist. :kitten:

Yankee_In_TX
08-27-2012, 08:45 AM
Well, he managed to tweet a pic with mail in the back ground, so drive to his house and ask him, lol.

Playoffs
08-27-2012, 09:36 AM
This is actually quite heartening for me, as I've been scratching my head as to how the Groza Award winner couldn't kick one out of the end zone ... and why we'd draft him.

Here's to Bullock healing back to 100% and proving his worth.

Rey
08-27-2012, 11:29 AM
This is actually quite heartening for me, as I've been scratching my head as to how the Groza Award winner couldn't kick one out of the end zone ... and why we'd draft him.

Here's to Bullock healing back to 100% and proving his worth.

I think this is actually a tricky situation for Bullock and the team/fans...

If you have a kicker go out there and do a great job this year (be steady overall and make some big kicks) why would you want to replace that guy with Bullock?

If Grahm or who ever is bad enough for Bullock to still be considered for the job next year, then that's not good for the team this year.

Vinnie
08-27-2012, 11:32 AM
I sure hope that's a hand in the bottom of the pic.

drs23
08-27-2012, 11:32 AM
Did Arian hack his account and send Bullock's "anti awesomeness" for the world to see. I can see the vein in Kubiak's neck bulging now. :kitten:

SheTexan
08-27-2012, 11:42 AM
Exactly......not expected to develop any time soon.

Then why did we waste a third round pic on him? Esp when this draft was loaded with talent at WR! We are "preparing for the future" as I've been told a zillion times on this board, but, we could have done that with someone with more potential. Stephen Hill for instance. I didn't understand the pic in April, and I don't understand it now.

TheIronDuke
08-27-2012, 11:48 AM
Then why did we waste a third round pic on him? Esp when this draft was loaded with talent at WR! We are "preparing for the future" as I've been told a zillion times on this board, but, we could have done that with someone with more potential. Stephen Hill for instance. I didn't understand the pic in April, and I don't understand it now.

Don't think Stephen Hill was the BPA in the first to us plus we selected 2 receivers in the draft, how many picks do we need to use on one position in the draft in your opinion?

SheTexan
08-27-2012, 11:50 AM
Don't think Stephen Hill was available in the 6th round when we selected Bullock.

I'm not referring to Bullock, even though this thread is about him. I'm responding to the comments made about Posey!

TheIronDuke
08-27-2012, 11:53 AM
We still took 2 receivers in the draft, how many picks do we need to use on receivers in one draft?

Brandon420tx
08-27-2012, 11:55 AM
TBH I think they'll groom Posey to take over KW's role completely in about 2 years. Do the Dirty stuff while being a viable receiving target. In order for that to happen he has to become one with the system *yoga stance*

ChampionTexan
08-27-2012, 11:59 AM
Posey is next.

I agree.

Me to. I mean we got to free up a spot in the WR roster for a vet coming off of the waiver wire Friday when the league has its 53-man roster deadline.

I don't know - maybe, but it seems like the conventional wisdom is that Posey's working off the rust, and making his way back from what was in some ways a year out of football.

Given the fact that players on IR can participate in meetings, and receive treatment, but can't participate in practice, putting him on IR would only be a further setback. From what I understand, even while under suspension, he attended practices at Ohio State, although I don't believe he was actually able to participate. Seems like putting him on IR only duplicates his final (lost) season at Ohio State, and adds another year of rust. If this guy's struggling to begin with, that doesn't make his chance to be a productive NFL player any better.

Goldensilence
08-27-2012, 12:22 PM
Graham has looked better this PS, but I think Bullock will be a good kicker when he gets healthy again. I'd really love to have more of a long term kicker here and I think he's got a chance to be it.

I'm with SheTexan on Posey. I didn't care for the pick when it was announced and aside from coach talk, nothing has been done to change my mind, not that it matters. At this point I'm really hoping this pick proves me VERY wrong, but obviously it's not going to happen this year.

I do agree that IRing Posey compounds the problem far as getting the reps he needs. He'll likely make the tail end of the WRs this year, but see little PT.

Playoffs
08-27-2012, 12:31 PM
Then why did we waste a third round pic on him?1) Pretend we selected KeyMart with that pick & Posey with the late 4th. Feels better, no? ;) 2) It's a little earlier to label Posey a bust -- see Lestar Jean.


Stephen Hill for instance.Hill is battling dropped balls -- the Jacoby syndrome.

drs23
08-27-2012, 01:40 PM
1) Pretend we selected KeyMart with that pick & Posey with the late 4th. Feels better, no? ;) 2) It's a little earlier to label Posey a bust -- see Lestar Jean.


Hill is battling dropped balls -- the Jacoby syndrome.

Yes he is. Saw a few bounce off his chest last night. Had he caught the one in the Red Zone the Zits might have scored their first TD of the PS.

The Zits look just turrible and I'm lovin' every minute of it!

Goldensilence
08-27-2012, 01:46 PM
1) Pretend we selected KeyMart with that pick & Posey with the late 4th. Feels better, no? ;) 2) It's a little earlier to label Posey a bust -- see Lestar Jean.


Hill is battling dropped balls -- the Jacoby syndrome.

So a guy we picked later is supposed to make me feel better that the guy we grabbed a round before him is performing better? Yay?

Jean was an UDFA, not a third round pick and wasn't serving a suspension for a large portion of the year he was drafted. He also landed on IR last year.

I am not saying he's a bust, but the idea of a 3rd round pick that's looking like he'll barely stick onto the roster doesn't sit well with me or some others.

I also keep in mind who Hill has throwing to him and physically Hill has the tools to become an elite WR, but playing at run heavy GT didn't help.

disaacks3
08-27-2012, 01:52 PM
Suuuuuuure.

STASH!

I think Graham was winning the competition anyways.. his kicks have been straight down the middle from 50+. I'm also relieved that we're going into the season with a vet.. I really didn't want to rely on a rookie in the playoffs. Bullock is the future, but I'll take Graham right now.

I'm impressed by how he suffered through all that pain to still try and play last night, kid has guts ;)

Posey is next.

That was my thought too-especially since he had an "injury" and couldn't play last night.

Hey, and they even save a PS spot this way too! :kitten:

CloakNNNdagger
08-27-2012, 07:45 PM
If Bullock was sat out of a practice for a sore groin only 2 1/2 weeks previously, makes you wonder why, as a right legged kicker with right groin soreness, he was not made to take time to rest and rehab adequately.

ObsiWan
08-27-2012, 07:56 PM
Posey is next.

Groin?
Hamstring?
In-grown toenail? ....errr, I mean turf toe?


Should we start a poll?
:D

Corrosion
08-27-2012, 08:10 PM
Posey is next.

I could see them doing this .... but we have to remember that IR'd players are not allowed to participate in team drills .... this would basically mean that next season Posey would have been out of football for two years.

Thats significant ... and a risk I dont see them taking with such a premium draft pick.


He'll be this years Brandon Harris .... not suited up on game day but occupying a roster spot.

Premier
08-27-2012, 09:51 PM
Then why did we waste a third round pic on him? Esp when this draft was loaded with talent at WR! We are "preparing for the future" as I've been told a zillion times on this board, but, we could have done that with someone with more potential. Stephen Hill for instance. I didn't understand the pic in April, and I don't understand it now.

youve also been told a zillion times that stephen hill was drafted 43rd overall, the texans didnt have a pick until #58, so stop bringin up stephen hill everytime you join one of these conversations..

Texn4life
08-27-2012, 10:00 PM
youve also been told a zillion times that stephen hill was drafted 43rd overall, the texans didnt have a pick until #58, so stop bringin up stephen hill everytime you join one of these conversations..

And not to derail the thread, but I'm on the Jets board quite a bit. There are plenty of fans who think Hill will never pan out because of his inconsistency catching the ball and he hasn't been playing as fast as his 40 time would indicate. Just goes to show you some people will never be happy. We should never grade a draft until after 3 years. If Posey goes out and has a 1000 yard year next year everyone will talk about how great of a pick it is.

drunkcookie
08-28-2012, 01:11 PM
Then why did we waste a third round pic on him? Esp when this draft was loaded with talent at WR! We are "preparing for the future" as I've been told a zillion times on this board, but, we could have done that with someone with more potential. Stephen Hill for instance. I didn't understand the pic in April, and I don't understand it now.

Yah, the third round is where every team looks to draft an "immediate impact" player, why the Texans didn't draft Blackmon in that spot i don't know...just don't get it..

*leaves Sarcasmville city limits*

Jean looks to be panning out and so does Martin...looks like the Texans did a better job than expected addressing the WR position...I'm willing to wait on Posey, because i don't believe coaches/GMs expect their 3rd round picks to come in and dominate like some fans do...

Goldensilence
08-28-2012, 03:03 PM
Yah, the third round is where every team looks to draft an "immediate impact" player, why the Texans didn't draft Blackmon in that spot i don't know...just don't get it..

*leaves Sarcasmville city limits*

Jean looks to be panning out and so does Martin...looks like the Texans did a better job than expected addressing the WR position...I'm willing to wait on Posey, because i don't believe coaches/GMs expect their 3rd round picks to come in and dominate like some fans do...

I guess I am in the mindset that I generally expect a first rounder to start or at least get rotated in like Merciless will be. A second rounder should be a starter or borderline, like in a year or so they will be taking or trying to take a starter's job. Third rounder generally should be someone productive and could be a starter eventually. To me 4-7 becomes a crapshoot and where I think taking risks is more acceptable.

No one is asking/wanting Posey to come in and dominate....hell just make the field right now. His selection is only looking expendable in large part to how Martin is playing and producing and the fact that Lestar is showing more than just the flashes we got to see before injuries cut him short last year. If this wasn't the case I suspect more people would find this pick as troublesome as I and a few others do.

Maddict5
08-28-2012, 07:30 PM
No one is asking/wanting Posey to come in and dominate....hell just make the field right now.

really?

so if miami and green bay both drafted wrs in the 3rd rd, you'd expect both of them to see the field straight away? how does that make sense?

lestar and keshawn are doing very well so its not like some scrubs are keeping him off the field. he mightve seen the field more in previous yrs

Rey
08-28-2012, 07:49 PM
I guess I am in the mindset that I generally expect a first rounder to start or at least get rotated in like Merciless will be.

That's not how it works on good balanced teams.

Second rounders should not be depended on to be starters or even borderline starters. Rotational players? Sure.

I think you're looking at it wrong. Instead of looking at the draft one round at a time, look at the bigger picture. Out of the draft you got merciless, crick, and Martin. They should all be in the rotation.

Then you have two immediate back ups in Brooks and jones.

You also have grimes as an udfa that is pushing for a roster spot and a role on special teams.

That doesn't even take into account Lestar Jean who is basically a rookie himself.

I wasn't a big fan of the posey pick myself, but the guy was out of football for a year. There are other young guys in that receiving corps that have stepped up. And he has not really gotten a chance to show what he's capable of. Give him a little time. He may not end up better than Martin or Jean, but there is plenty of time for him to develop into a good capable receiving option.

beerlover
08-28-2012, 09:10 PM
Just proves Texans are not cheap. They are willing to place as many future starters on IR as it takes to retool coveted roster spots.

Texan_Bill
08-28-2012, 09:27 PM
Just proves Texans are not cheap. They are willing to place as many future starters on IR as it takes to retool coveted roster spots.

Wait, what?? Someone suggested the Texans were "cheap"? How asinine is that??? I would love for someone to dig up the dirt on how cheap the Texans are... *ahem* What was that corners name, now playing for an over priced salary in Atlanta??

#PayMeRick