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DocBar
08-23-2012, 10:38 AM
LINK (http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/meet-the-houston-texans-team-built-for-the-super-bowl/16163/)

The 2011 Houston Texans were the best team in football last year top to bottom: a team with no weaknesses.

We know they were, thanks to the statistical perfection of our Quality Stats. The 2011 Texans topped our Quality Stats Power Rankings.

In other words, they boasted the highest average ranking across the board in all our indicators, which measure teams in all aspects of those performances that win and lose games.

The 2011 Texans had game-breakers at all the skill positions on offense; young game-changing playmakers on defense; and solid units on both the offensive and defensive line.

You can see how they ranked in every single one of our Quality Stats below, available free to all CHFF visitors.

It was a team built for the Super Bowl, before losing productive QB Matt Schaub to injury after 10 games. Here's how they ended the year the toughest team top to bottom in each of our indicators.

If they can re-capture this statistical magic, the Texans are a very legit threat to win it all in 2012, maybe even a favorite.

DX-TEX
08-23-2012, 10:56 AM
http://content.ytmnd.com/content/c/4/c/c4c1735ad7654028e01c59c2ed8e2608.gif

JOYGASM!!!

hobie
08-23-2012, 02:25 PM
Always got to put things into perspective... injuries happen to all teams, it is how you deal with them and when in the season it happens... Take NY Giants, they lost just about half of their secondary in the preseason and lost a few other key players within the early part of the season, and they got thier guys back at the end of the season before they went on their run to win it all..
People say a 9-7 team lucked out to win the SB.. maybe yes, maybe not..
They got their guys back before the playoffs, and came together at the perfect time. Their D shut everyone down the last 5-6 games..so saying they limped into the playoffs is incorrect.. they got their guys back right before and then played the way they were supposed to...
Now with Houston, they lost guys in the middle and they never were able to play with the full compliment of players they should have had..so if they stay healthy, yes, they are a dangerous team.. but remember, if every team has their guys stay healthy too...who knows how things could play out...

gwallaia
08-23-2012, 02:55 PM
Yay! We Win on paper.:specnatz:

EllisUnit
08-23-2012, 03:04 PM
Always got to put things into perspective... injuries happen to all teams, it is how you deal with them and when in the season it happens... Take NY Giants, they lost just about half of their secondary in the preseason and lost a few other key players within the early part of the season, and they got thier guys back at the end of the season before they went on their run to win it all..
People say a 9-7 team lucked out to win the SB.. maybe yes, maybe not..
They got their guys back before the playoffs, and came together at the perfect time. Their D shut everyone down the last 5-6 games..so saying they limped into the playoffs is incorrect.. they got their guys back right before and then played the way they were supposed to...
Now with Houston, they lost guys in the middle and they never were able to play with the full compliment of players they should have had..so if they stay healthy, yes, they are a dangerous team.. but remember, if every team has their guys stay healthy too...who knows how things could play out...

Yeah but not every team has our kind of talent IMO

Showtime100
08-23-2012, 03:23 PM
Yeah but not every team has our kind of talent IMO

In my way of looking at it there are plenty of teas that can beat us on any given Sunday. While this article and ones like it are a lot of fun to read (no sarcasm) the still have to play the games.

Nice article, no change recorded as far as I'm concerned.

The1ApplePie
08-23-2012, 03:27 PM
Yeah but not every team has our kind of talent IMO

Texans are a QB away from the Super Bowl IMO.

I think Schaub can be that guy, but I doubt him lasting a whole season.

The era of a crappy QB with a great running game and defense taking the Super Bowl may be over. Even if it isn't, that formula isn't as viable as it was even five years ago.

EllisUnit
08-23-2012, 03:37 PM
In my way of looking at it there are plenty of teas that can beat us on any given Sunday. While this article and ones like it are a lot of fun to read (no sarcasm) the still have to play the games.

Nice article, no change recorded as far as I'm concerned.

I'm not saying our team can't be beaten any given Sunday, but how many teams could of done what we did last year. Losing our only WR threat and down to our 3rd string QB, many tems would of collapsed at that point, but we didn't.

Showtime100
08-23-2012, 03:42 PM
I'm not saying our team can't be beaten any given Sunday, but how many teams could of done what we did last year. Losing our only WR threat and down to our 3rd string QB, many tems would of collapsed at that point, but we didn't.

If I had to throw money down on AFC Champs I would probably put it on Houston's nose and I doubt many would argue. I'm just a show-me type I guess.

I felt the same way in '94 (I think it was) when many thought the Oilers were the AFC favorite.

I think we're on the same page here but my positivity is lacking a bit due to past disappointments. :D

HJam72
08-23-2012, 03:44 PM
We played .500 football after Schaub went down. We beat the bungles in the playoffs. Probly the most impressive thing we did after Schaub went down was what our D did against Baltimore, but we still lost.

My best hope is that Schaub and AJ put two full seasons together starting right now and we get 2 Superbowls out of it. :hurrah:

Realistically, it's kind of a long shot, but then so is any one team ever winning it all...

Hervoyel
08-23-2012, 04:15 PM
:cry2:They like us! They really like us!

LikeMike
08-23-2012, 04:31 PM
When you have the Nr. 2 defense of the league, and a top 5 WR, a top 5 HB and a top 5 OLine and a pretty decent QB, of course you should be a Super Bowl contender. The thing with this team is health - especially Schaubs health. If most of our top guys can stay healthy I don't think any team shoud be favored against us...

HJam72
08-23-2012, 04:34 PM
When you have the Nr. 2 defense of the league, and a top 5 WR, a top 5 HB and a top 5 OLine and a pretty decent QB, of course you should be a Super Bowl contender. The thing with this team is health - especially Schaubs health. If most of our top guys can stay healthy I don't think any team shoud be favored against us...

I don't know. The Pats, Giants, and maybe a few more might have something to say about that. I wouldn't bet against us either (with everyone healthy), but I bet some of those teams are still favored against us, whether they should be or not.

Heck, I wouldn't doubt if the Colts are favored against us and I'll be glad to see Luck on his backside.

The Pencil Neck
08-23-2012, 04:38 PM
When you have the Nr. 2 defense of the league, and a top 5 WR, a top 5 HB and a top 5 OLine and a pretty decent QB, of course you should be a Super Bowl contender. The thing with this team is health - especially Schaubs health. If most of our top guys can stay healthy I don't think any team shoud be favored against us...

Before we got to training camp and saw that Schaub really was healthy, I was really starting to get enamored of the idea of putting Schaub on the PUP list and having TJ start the first 6-7 games of the season. Then Schaub could come in down the stretch and be hopefully be healthy for the playoffs.

I figured TJ could do well enough in those first few games to put us in position for Schaub to come in and clean up.

Now, though, PUP is not an option. We've got to hope Schaub stays healthy the entire way through.

gary
08-23-2012, 04:53 PM
I am calling a Texans vs Giants Super Bowl barring injuries to Matt and/or Eli.

LondonTex
08-23-2012, 06:54 PM
As a new fan of the Texans I'm really excited for the coming season.... All I hear is good things about this team! I didnt know too much about them when I picked them but it certainly looks as tho they're going to give it a good crack this year.... Been watching vids.... The defense sure is fun to watch !

Showtime100
08-23-2012, 07:08 PM
As a new fan of the Texans I'm really excited for the coming season.... All I hear is good things about this team! I didnt know too much about them when I picked them but it certainly looks as tho they're going to give it a good crack this year.... Been watching vids.... The defense sure is fun to watch !

I think it's awesome you came here when you had the whole league to choose from. :smiliedance:

The Pencil Neck
08-23-2012, 07:38 PM
As a new fan of the Texans I'm really excited for the coming season.... All I hear is good things about this team! I didnt know too much about them when I picked them but it certainly looks as tho they're going to give it a good crack this year.... Been watching vids.... The defense sure is fun to watch !

If you don't mind my asking, why did you choose the Texans to follow?

DX-TEX
08-23-2012, 08:02 PM
If you don't mind my asking, why did you choose the Texans to follow?

Because deep down EVERYONE wants to be a Texan! Even those crazy Brits!

:texan::wherewill:gotexans1

TheMatrix31
08-23-2012, 08:06 PM
I don't even want to hear this.

Favorites never win.

Texan_Bill
08-23-2012, 08:28 PM
Not to be:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSVs3vMpsACfW7yZXBgOPhy0h--aHKiqMNs0uSHhbntLlXrRIrrblssOZBM


Super Bowls matter, stats? Not so much! In other words, pretend I'm from Missery: "Show Me!"

*EDIT*

Super Bowl WINS matter!!

Signed,
The Buffalo Bills

djohn2oo8
08-23-2012, 08:31 PM
Anyine watching the Titans game? Marioni their kick returner just broke his leg. It was gruesome.

Texan_Bill
08-23-2012, 08:35 PM
Anyine watching the Titans game? Marioni their kick returner just broke his leg. It was gruesome.

Watching? Yes. I'm not sure how that's related to this thread, tho?

drs23
08-23-2012, 08:49 PM
Watching? Yes. I'm not sure how that's related to this thread, tho?

Perhaps not related Bill but I'm still at work and the guide says the game VS the Bucs is tomorrow. It's on now???

badboy
08-23-2012, 11:50 PM
Matt Schaub played 16 games in 2009 and 2010. He could do so again this season. Our defense could be even better with a full season in Phillips system. AJ could play healthy for 16. Super Bowl? Yep, could be.

Perki-Perk
08-24-2012, 12:20 AM
Matt Schaub played 16 games in 2009 and 2010. He could do so again this season. Our defense could be even better with a full season in Phillips system. AJ could play healthy for 16. Super Bowl? Yep, could be.

I'm actually hoping Shaub can do a few more than 16 this year :texflag:

HJam72
08-24-2012, 02:15 AM
I'm actually hoping Shaub can do a few more than 16 this year :texflag:

Yeah, like 20.

LondonTex
08-24-2012, 05:33 AM
I think it's awesome you came here when you had the whole league to choose from. :smiliedance:

I view it more like this - I'm the lucky one to have stumbled upon such an awesome team, in a wonderful location with a fantastic Fanbase !
If you don't mind my asking, why did you choose the Texans to follow?

Not at all ...long story short, I followed the NFL on and off for years but only got into it properly last year.... I got tickets for the London game and followed first the bears as they were huge here in the 80s... But to be honest I knew nothing about teams etc..... I tried following several teams including the Pats... I went to a tiny invite-only fan event recently and met Ray Lewis, Nate Solder... the Rams Steven Jackson was there too.... This just fueled my new love of all things NFL......I still couldnt settle on a team tho...End of the day I have no geographical link to any one state so it would be hard to follow a team for that reason.... In the end I decided I didn't want to be a bandwagon fan as half of the Uk fans seemingly root for NE.... I looked for teams who have had little success or are quite new. When I found out that the Texans are only going into third 11th season and have only made the play-offs once, won the AFC south just recently but no other real past success, I was intrigued .... Chatting to other Texans fans only started to intrigue me more.... I wanted to be part of a team that has the best in front of them with no past success to jump on like many bandwagoners tend to do.... So in the end it was an easy choice...
Because deep down EVERYONE wants to be a Texan! Even those crazy Brits!

:texan::wherewill:gotexans1
Lol yeeeehaw, Preach it brother .... This crazy Brit is over the moon to follow the Texans! I also want to bring my Wife out to Texas someday even tho shes terrified of tornadoes and hurricanes... They both terrify & fascinate me and Im a huge fan of storm chasers DVDs ..Which reminds me, I must check out that hurricane season thread.......i digress.....Can't wait for the reg season to start! Go Texans!!

Thorn
08-24-2012, 07:40 AM
Sounds like Brits are no crazier than Texans. Welcome to the maddness LondonTex. :)

LondonTex
08-24-2012, 10:44 AM
Sounds like Brits are no crazier than Texans. Welcome to the maddness LondonTex. :)

Thank you sir!

BullBlitz
08-24-2012, 12:00 PM
I'm not saying our team can't be beaten any given Sunday, but how many teams could of done what we did last year. Losing our only WR threat and down to our 3rd string QB, many tems would of collapsed at that point, but we didn't.

Moral victory.

I don't think we did anything special last year. Matt got us to 7-3, so he basically set the stage for us to lock up the division. Unfortunately, even though we had several weeks left in the regular season before the playoffs started, we decided not to go get a capable veteran QB. As soon as they decided to go with the rookie, the season was destined to end with an early exit. The same result may have occurred with a veteran, but it was virtually assured with a rookie.

LikeMike
08-24-2012, 12:56 PM
Moral victory.

I don't think we did anything special last year. Matt got us to 7-3, so he basically set the stage for us to lock up the division. Unfortunately, even though we had several weeks left in the regular season before the playoffs started, we decided not to go get a capable veteran QB. As soon as they decided to go with the rookie, the season was destined to end with an early exit. The same result may have occurred with a veteran, but it was virtually assured with a rookie.

Nothing special? We made our first playoffs... we turned one of the worst defenses of the league into arguably the best... we lost arguably our top 4 players (Schaub, Foster, Andre, Mario) for extended periods of times. We finished the season with a 5th round rookie who orchestrated a game winning drive late in the 4th quarter to finally get us to the post season - and we won our first playoff game. And we got really close to getting to the conference championship.

Nothing special? It was one of the most special things I ever experienced as a sports fan.

thunderkyss
08-24-2012, 01:01 PM
I'm actually hoping Shaub can do a few more than 16 this year :texflag:

I'd be fine with 16, as long as the last 4 result in wins & a Lombardy.



Imagine if Shaub's injury only kept him out until the play-offs in 2011...

thunderkyss
08-24-2012, 01:06 PM
.... This just fueled my new love of all things NFL......I still couldnt settle on a team tho...End of the day I have no geographical link to any one state so it would be hard to follow a team for that reason.... In the end I decided I didn't want to be a bandwagon fan as half of the Uk fans seemingly root for NE....

Sorry to hi-jack your post LT, but just wanted to point out the two Jags games in London every year is going to be huge for the Jags.

Just like playing on Thanksgiving, it sounded like a pain when it started, but now 30 teams in the NFL wish they had that deal.

The Pencil Neck
08-24-2012, 01:32 PM
Moral victory.

I don't think we did anything special last year. Matt got us to 7-3, so he basically set the stage for us to lock up the division. Unfortunately, even though we had several weeks left in the regular season before the playoffs started, we decided not to go get a capable veteran QB. As soon as they decided to go with the rookie, the season was destined to end with an early exit. The same result may have occurred with a veteran, but it was virtually assured with a rookie.

To me, an "early exit" is losing the first playoff game. To me, a moral victory would have been limping into the playoffs and then getting beaten in the first round.

While I agree that our hopes of winning a SB were dashed as soon as Schaub went down, I don't see the season as some sort of hopeless waste or just some moral victory. We didn't get to the playoffs and get pantsed. We didn't even get to the divisional round of the playoffs and get embarrassed. We crushed the Bengals. We gave the Ravens everything they could handle and had a shot to take it from them.

Now, if you're in the "if you're not first, you're last" crowd, then there's no talking to you. That's a great mindset for an athlete but a bad mindset for a fan. The way an athlete approaches the season (one game at a time, don't look ahead, if you're not first, you're last) is not the way a fan should approach it unless they want to be miserable.

LondonTex
08-24-2012, 01:40 PM
Sorry to hi-jack your post LT, but just wanted to point out the two Jags games in London every year is going to be huge for the Jags.

Just like playing on Thanksgiving, it sounded like a pain when it started, but now 30 teams in the NFL wish they had that deal.

I believe it'll only be one game per year in London for the Jags not two.... But yeah, fair play to them ... I'm just happy to see games in the Uk no matter who's paying... Such a privilege for us :)

On a similar subject - When the Rams announced their original 3 year plan to play here, very few fans over on NFL Uk considered switching from their teams to support the Rams....Once we're settled on a team, most of us stick to it. I bet some UK fans will consider switching to the Jags as they say they'll be here for 4 straight years..... This will maybe attract new and casual fans... but most will stick with their team. I wish some of my buddies were Jags then we could have some banter!

I know I have little chance of ever seeing the Texans over here, even for a road game but that's fine. I'll just have to make the trip someday !

ObsiWan
08-24-2012, 02:38 PM
LINK (http://www.coldhardfootballfacts.com/content/meet-the-houston-texans-team-built-for-the-super-bowl/16163/)

Good find, thanks for posting.

...and mega-rep for the avatar
:D

EllisUnit
08-24-2012, 04:39 PM
Nothing special? We made our first playoffs... we turned one of the worst defenses of the league into arguably the best... we lost arguably our top 4 players (Schaub, Foster, Andre, Mario) for extended periods of times. We finished the season with a 5th round rookie who orchestrated a game winning drive late in the 4th quarter to finally get us to the post season - and we won our first playoff game. And we got really close to getting to the conference championship.

Nothing special? It was one of the most special things I ever experienced as a sports fan.

It was to me too man. Sometimes u learn more from losing than yo do from winning. Sure we all wanted to win it all, who doesn't but we played a damn good game of pocker with the hand we had, even after they changed dealers we still did pretty damn good.

T.Js TD pass with 8 seconds left to lock up the AFC was a moment of greatness I will never forget !!!

Perki-Perk
08-24-2012, 07:47 PM
Originally Posted by LondonTex
.... This just fueled my new love of all things NFL......I still couldnt settle on a team tho...End of the day I have no geographical link to any one state so it would be hard to follow a team for that reason.... In the end I decided I didn't want to be a bandwagon fan as half of the Uk fans seemingly root for NE....

The irony of half the fans in the UK being fans of the Patriots... :spin:

Perki-Perk
08-24-2012, 07:48 PM
Yeah, like 20.

I'd rather skip the wild card ;)

drs23
08-24-2012, 08:16 PM
I believe it'll only be one game per year in London for the Jags not two.... But yeah, fair play to them ... I'm just happy to see games in the Uk no matter who's paying... Such a privilege for us :)

On a similar subject - When the Rams announced their original 3 year plan to play here, very few fans over on NFL Uk considered switching from their teams to support the Rams....Once we're settled on a team, most of us stick to it. I bet some UK fans will consider switching to the Jags as they say they'll be here for 4 straight years..... This will maybe attract new and casual fans... but most will stick with their team. I wish some of my buddies were Jags then we could have some banter!

I know I have little chance of ever seeing the Texans over here, even for a road game but that's fine. I'll just have to make the trip someday !

Nice to have first hand knowledge that the majority of Brits aren't bandwaggoners.

I appreciate the method you used to decide on the Texans. Thought and sound reasoning led you to the Texans. Great choice!

When you do make "the trip" make sure it's to a home game and hang with the Blue Crew in the Platinum Lot. I've had the privilege in the past and can assure you, you'll feel like you're at home.

That said, you can stumble up to any tailgate in any lot and you'd be welcome. Houston didn't win the Tailgate #1 award 3 years running by fluke.:)

ATRAIN
08-24-2012, 08:28 PM
Texans are a QB away from the Super Bowl IMO.

I think Schaub can be that guy, but I doubt him lasting a whole season.

The era of a crappy QB with a great running game and defense taking the Super Bowl may be over. Even if it isn't, that formula isn't as viable as it was even five years ago.

Case will lead us there :whip:

LikeMike
08-24-2012, 08:39 PM
It was to me too man. Sometimes u learn more from losing than yo do from winning. Sure we all wanted to win it all, who doesn't but we played a damn good game of pocker with the hand we had, even after they changed dealers we still did pretty damn good.

T.Js TD pass with 8 seconds left to lock up the AFC was a moment of greatness I will never forget !!!

Tell me about it... Im an overseas fan that`s watching the games alone at night. But thats a night Ill never forget - and I still get the chills when watching this video knowing, how much this moment meant to the whole fanbase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEIvZNlquZ4&feature=related

drs23
08-24-2012, 09:27 PM
Tell me about it... Im an overseas fan that`s watching the games alone at night. But thats a night Ill never forget - and I still get the chills when watching this video knowing, how much this moment meant to the whole fanbase:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DEIvZNlquZ4&feature=related

I watched your clip for a few secs but was quickly side tracked by the 50yd bomb to AJ. :D

LondonTex
08-24-2012, 11:52 PM
Nice to have first hand knowledge that the majority of Brits aren't bandwaggoners.

I appreciate the method you used to decide on the Texans. Thought and sound reasoning led you to the Texans. Great choice!

When you do make "the trip" make sure it's to a home game and hang with the Blue Crew in the Platinum Lot. I've had the privilege in the past and can assure you, you'll feel like you're at home.

That said, you can stumble up to any tailgate in any lot and you'd be welcome. Houston didn't win the Tailgate #1 award 3 years running by fluke.:)

Thanks. :handshake: Oh I will make sure it's a home game. We have 'tailgate' at the London game each year but it's not a proper tailgate as it's not in or near a car parking lot, or anything remotely similar....in fact it's inside a large penned in area with mobile fast food joints making a killing......so it sucks in comparison. I look forward to sampling a proper tailgate one day :)

LondonTex
08-24-2012, 11:56 PM
The irony of half the fans in the UK being fans of the Patriots... :spin:

:littlelol:

DocBar
08-24-2012, 11:57 PM
Thanks. :handshake: Oh I will make sure it's a home game. We have 'tailgate' at the London game each year but it's not a proper tailgate as it's not in or near a car parking lot, or anything remotely similar....in fact it's inside a large penned in area with mobile fast food joints making a killing......so it sucks in comparison. I look forward to sampling a proper tailgate one day :)

You haven't lived til you've sampled the fare at a true NFL tailgate party. You haven't lived well until you've sampled said tailgate fare at a TEXANS tailgate party.