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Hookem Horns
08-20-2012, 02:27 PM
Once figured to be a cake walk (for the Texans) it's starting to look more like a walk through mud. This division is going to be more difficult than originally thought by most.

Colts - Sure Luck is a rookie but he already looks better than many NFL starters. The way he bounced back vs the Steelers spoke volumes. The Colts as a team look much stronger in general and could surprise everyone this season. I think the Texans are going to have their hands full with this team. Heck they lost to them last season with Dan Orlovsky at the helm.

Jags - Another team looking much improved in the preseason. I didn't think Gabbert would ever pan out however I could be wrong. Sure it's preseason so I don't look at wins and losses but the Jags have looked pretty good when their starters have played. They are putting up points so far. I can see the Texans dropping 1 of 2 to these guys this season.

Titans - Living near Tampa I watched them vs the Bucs. Chris Johnson looked real sharp. Defensively they looked decent too. The obvious weakness of this team is at QB. Jake Locker looked pretty bad and Hasselback didn't look much better vs the Bucs scrubs. Because of this the Titans could take a step back this season from 9-7.

The Medic01
08-20-2012, 02:52 PM
Luck has only had two preseason games and has no team around him. Gabbie has also only done well in two preseason games.

Thorn
08-20-2012, 02:53 PM
Teams are different from year to year, which is why so many predictions are always wrong. But despite it looking like the AFC South will be more difficult than some imagined, I'm not budging from my initial belief, and that is it's another AFC South Championship for the Texans this year.

Playoffs
08-20-2012, 03:02 PM
Colts, Jags, Titan all sucked bad last year. By default, they had to get better. Good. I'd like to see the AFC South get stronger.

I don't care who the opponent is, division games in NFL are tough. Nothing is handed to you.

jaayteetx
08-20-2012, 03:03 PM
It's preseason, let's see how the division looks around, say, October.

Stemp
08-20-2012, 03:12 PM
Once figured to be a cake walk (for the Texans) it's starting to look more like a walk through mud. This division is going to be more difficult than originally thought by most.

Colts - Sure Luck is a rookie but he already looks better than many NFL starters. The way he bounced back vs the Steelers spoke volumes. The Colts as a team look much stronger in general and could surprise everyone this season. I think the Texans are going to have their hands full with this team. Heck they lost to them last season with Dan Orlovsky at the helm.

Jags - Another team looking much improved in the preseason. I didn't think Gabbert would ever pan out however I could be wrong. Sure it's preseason so I don't look at wins and losses but the Jags have looked pretty good when their starters have played. They are putting up points so far. I can see the Texans dropping 1 of 2 to these guys this season.

Titans - Living near Tampa I watched them vs the Bucs. Chris Johnson looked real sharp. Defensively they looked decent too. The obvious weakness of this team is at QB. Jake Locker looked pretty bad and Hasselback didn't look much better vs the Bucs scrubs. Because of this the Titans could take a step back this season from 9-7.

Keep in mind that all this is happening against base defenses and without teams scheming. When teams are looking to actually win and not just evaluate the players, the real talent or lack-thereof will start to show.

Norg
08-21-2012, 02:36 AM
my gwad people are all ready to crown Luck has better then peyton manning and he has not even played 1 NFL game yet ...and on paper the colts team around him is straight trash

and we all know about the titans and jags D there pretty good but just like last year can there offensives keep up with Us

Is locker and Sunshine going to throw up 27+ points on us ????

LikeMike
08-21-2012, 06:01 AM
Luck has only had two preseason games and has no team around him. Gabbie has also only done well in two preseason games.

I dont agree with the no team around him part. His oline looked great against the Steelers, and their defense didnt look too shabby either. You can see that this is a different team than last year - and they have a different mindset. I still think they tanked last year and I totally expect them to get 6-9 wins this year.

Lucky
08-21-2012, 06:21 AM
Three teams in the AFC South have potential. One team is built to win now. That team is the Houston Texans. Not coming away with the division crown in 2012 would be a bitter disappointment. Just can't see it happening.

Hookem Horns
08-21-2012, 06:28 AM
Three teams in the AFC South have potential. One team is built to win now. That team is the Houston Texans. Not coming away with the division crown in 2012 would be a bitter disappointment. Just can't see it happening.

I agree. I am not saying that the Texans aren't the favorites. However these teams aren't going to be as bad as many are thinking. In other words 9 wins may not get it done.

SheTexan
08-21-2012, 08:36 AM
NEVER underestimate the underdog!!!

b0ng
08-21-2012, 11:05 AM
I dont agree with the no team around him part. His oline looked great against the Steelers, and their defense didnt look too shabby either. You can see that this is a different team than last year - and they have a different mindset. I still think they tanked last year and I totally expect them to get 6-9 wins this year.

That Colts defense is not going to be good this year, I do not give a **** how they look in the preseason. They have Cory Redding on the line and he's probably the only guy who could play linemen in the 3-4 on that team. Their entire secondary is pretty piss poor outside of Bethea, and Angerer just broke his foot and will be getting surgery.

They may win 6 games this year, but I seriously doubt it's much more than that. God forbid if that sieve of an O-line gets Luck injured.

GP
08-21-2012, 11:38 AM
4. The Titans are going to be the worst team in the AFCS. Bad QB decisions, a Chris Johnson who sometimes doesn't appear to be there at all. Which brings up a question I have: Adderall is banned by the PED list in the NFL. I know that CJ has twitch problems. Is it possible that he's off the meds (those that are on the PED list) and that's causing him to have lapses in focus out on the field. He just doesn't look the same as he did in his first few seasons. Right??? Like, it's really noticeable. I wonder if he's had to drop the meds that could get him busted by the league?

3. Jags can spoil if Gabbert is truly delivered from his David Carr'ish ways. But I think he reverts or settles back into a skittish QB once the reg season begins and teams are really coming at him hardcore.

2. Colts look way better than they did last year, especially their confidence in terms of body language. Their pace is quick, Luck has given them hope, and yet I think the real issue is going to be this: How can Luck withstand a TRUE reg season schedule...getting hit in week 1 (playing a full game, btw!) then having to plan for the next opponent for week 2, getting hit in week 2, planning for week 3, etc., etc. That's going to be a grind, I don't care how good he is right now...that's going to test him.

1. Texans. The only thing(s) that can slow us down or challenge us: (1) Losing closely-contested games in brutal fashion via whatever way sucks the worst--One week it might be a missed field goal at end of game, another week it could be a bad turnover that gives the opponent the game...I just think there might not be the focus we had last year, which is die to (2) Over-confidence. Yes, that nasty and pesky expectation thing--It could hurt us if we lay an egg on opening day and let it rattle us. Anything is possible, and this worries me a lot. Lastly, (3) What if we squeak through our season and yet one of the other AFCS teams finds a way to have a better-than-expected season?!?!? That would suck big time. And it can happen.

Last year, we flew under the radar. This year, everyone is gunning for us. And if our divisional foes see a leak in the ship...they might ram right through us and sink us.

We need a lot of help, as all teams do. This is not nearly the cake walk season I thought it was going to be, either.

Speedy
08-21-2012, 01:49 PM
Let's not forget the Lions 4-0 pre-season a few years ago, followed up with an 0-16 regular season. Pre-season football is a different game.

Goldensilence
08-21-2012, 02:19 PM
Titans are going to be made or broken offensively by CJ and the running game this year. Locker hasn't impressed much in PS and middle of the road defense make this look like a team that really did have a 9-7 season by smoke and mirrors last year. No one has also mentioned if Britt, who is already recovering from injury (and and PUP right now) will also have to deal with a any disciplinary action for his DUI this summer.


Jags do look more improved because Gabbert doesn't look so shell shocked this PS. We'll see what happens when teams are really scheming and throwing all sorts of wrinkles at him. Blackmon is going to help this offense, but you have to wonder at what point does MJD hold out hurt the timing with this offense? Defensively they're still good, this team COULD be tough but, it's going to depend on how Gabbert looks in regular season.

No one's anointing Luck as a HOF QB at this point much as it's simply impressive that he's actually living up to the hype. Also has to help having your college security blanket as your TE. Luck's going to have up and downs this year, but it's looking like they will be a lot more competitive this year than we expected.

The Texans are looking like easily the most complete team in this division and could get even better the next couple of weeks as some of the young pieces from the draft get acclimated to playing at this level. Even with these PS developments I would dare say anything less than a division crown is a disappointment.

Hookem Horns
08-22-2012, 07:46 AM
Let's not forget the Lions 4-0 pre-season a few years ago, followed up with an 0-16 regular season. Pre-season football is a different game.

True, but I don't look at win/loss records. The Lions could have looked like crap for the first 2 quarters then their scrubs come in and win the game in the 2nd half.

I am just going off what I have seen in the first quarters when watching these teams starters.

thunderkyss
08-22-2012, 08:15 AM
Once figured to be a cake walk (for the Texans) it's starting to look more like a walk through mud. This division is going to be more difficult than originally thought by most.





I agree with this whole post. Anyone thinking 9 or 10 games is a safe bet for the AFCS Championship is sorely mistaken. It'll probably be week 16 or 17 to win the division. Tits, Jags, & Colts are playing the same troubled divisions we are. Miami early isn't going to be much of a problem for any of the AFC South teams. The Jets are going to implode. & Buffalo can beat us just as easily.

Who knows what Detroit is going to look like this year. Chicago can go either way. & who is expecting Minnesota to do anything??

I'm not saying our schedule is weak, Thorn is right, teams change so much from year to year. But there is a lot of uncertainty & "flux" in our schedule. Not a lot of continuity.

Us, Green Bay, & New England are the cream of the crop & we should rise to the top. But I can see a scenario where none of those three teams win their division ( it'll be much harder for New England not to win)

GP
08-22-2012, 08:36 AM
Aaron Rodgers has looked really bad so far.

He's missing guys by several yards. He has that look in his eyes that says he has no confidence (right now). It was strange to watch him these past two games, and to see him not throwing well.

I don't think it's a cinch that the Packers win their division, folks.

49ers look really good. Running the ball, stopping their opponent's run game, wide receivers are playing well. I wonder about their pass defense, though. I think if it had been a real game, we'd have aired it out and put points on the board.

Anyways, I like the Pats in the East. Raiders in the West. BENGALS in the North. Hopefully our guys win the South.

In the NFC, I like the Giants in the East (Redskins are primed to spoil, though). 49ers in the West. Lions in the North. Saints in the South.

AFC title game: Texans vs. Bengals, setting up a re-match and a helluva' game between Dalton and Schaub.

NFC title game: 49ers vs. Saints, setting up a re-match as well.

SB: 49ers vs. Texans in the Bayou.

I guy can dream, right? LOL.

b0ng
08-22-2012, 09:28 AM
I really think you guys are way way way over analyzing stuff that happens in the preseason. Blaine Gabbert is going to need to do it in the regular season before I think he's going to be any kind of QB. The Titans I have been worried about as being the only real competition to us in the AFCS but come on. Mike Munchak is a 2nd year head coach who's team came unprepared regularly in 2011. The Colts were absolutely awful last year, and they pretty much have rookies vying for big starting roles on both offense and defense, we know how that's going to go.

Throw in that the best offensive player on the Jaguars is staging a silly hold out and one of the better offensive players on the Titans is an alcoholic who keeps shredding his knees. I don't think the AFCS is going to be that much better than it was last year other than the Colts not being the absolute worst team in the entire league.

Dutchrudder
08-22-2012, 10:10 AM
4. The Titans are going to be the worst team in the AFCS. Bad QB decisions, a Chris Johnson who sometimes doesn't appear to be there at all. Which brings up a question I have: Adderall is banned by the PED list in the NFL. I know that CJ has twitch problems. Is it possible that he's off the meds (those that are on the PED list) and that's causing him to have lapses in focus out on the field. He just doesn't look the same as he did in his first few seasons. Right??? Like, it's really noticeable. I wonder if he's had to drop the meds that could get him busted by the league?


Adderall is legal in the NFL if you have a doctor prescribe it and get it approved by the league. Some guys have been hit with a 4 game suspension for it because they didn't have the proper paperwork submitted to the league to get an exception. If that's CJ's issue, then I would expect the team doctor's to help him out.

thunderkyss
08-22-2012, 01:07 PM
I really think you guys are way way way over analyzing stuff that happens in the preseason. Blaine Gabbert is going to need to do it in the regular season before I think he's going to be any kind of QB. The Titans I have been worried about as being the only real competition to us in the AFCS but come on. Mike Munchak is a 2nd year head coach who's team came unprepared regularly in 2011. The Colts were absolutely awful last year, and they pretty much have rookies vying for big starting roles on both offense and defense, we know how that's going to go.

Throw in that the best offensive player on the Jaguars is staging a silly hold out and one of the better offensive players on the Titans is an alcoholic who keeps shredding his knees. I don't think the AFCS is going to be that much better than it was last year other than the Colts not being the absolute worst team in the entire league.

You may be right, but it is not in our best interest for the AFC South to be weak. The Colts & Chargers dominated weak divisions for a decade only to choke in the play-offs.

SheTexan
08-22-2012, 04:04 PM
SB: 49ers vs. Texans in the Bayou.

I guy can dream, right? LOL.

Been my dream for going on 11 years! So, I'm right there with ya! My two fav teams in the NFL playing in the SB!! What more can an old gal ask for!! Well, a TEXAN win, that's what!!:fans:

Thorn
08-22-2012, 05:34 PM
Been my dream for going on 11 years! So, I'm right there with ya! My two fav teams in the NFL playing in the SB!! What more can an old gal ask for!! Well, a TEXAN win, that's what!!:fans:

My two favorite teams in the NFC to follow are the 49ers and the Seahawks. Seahawks just 'cause I got lots of relatives in that part of the country, and the 49ers because I just like them. I'm glad the 49ers are doing well myself, but will root against them every time if they get anywhere near the Texans. It always does my heart good to see old replay playoff games where the 49ers beat the Cowgirls. :)

BullBlitz
08-22-2012, 08:29 PM
I really think you guys are way way way over analyzing stuff that happens in the preseason. Blaine Gabbert is going to need to do it in the regular season before I think he's going to be any kind of QB. The Titans I have been worried about as being the only real competition to us in the AFCS but come on. Mike Munchak is a 2nd year head coach who's team came unprepared regularly in 2011. The Colts were absolutely awful last year, and they pretty much have rookies vying for big starting roles on both offense and defense, we know how that's going to go.

Throw in that the best offensive player on the Jaguars is staging a silly hold out and one of the better offensive players on the Titans is an alcoholic who keeps shredding his knees. I don't think the AFCS is going to be that much better than it was last year other than the Colts not being the absolute worst team in the entire league.

Well, we won one more game than the awful Titans last year. And Munchak and Matthews are probably going to keep improving this team. I think people are over emphasizing the Texans. We won a single playoff game last season, and I know people are to start tossing the injury excuses out there but Schaub makes mistakes too.

I think that the Texans will be good, the Titans and Colts will give them a run for their money, and the Jaguars are the likely disaster.

Rey
08-22-2012, 09:11 PM
Once figured to be a cake walk (for the Texans) it's starting to look more like a walk through mud. This division is going to be more difficult than originally thought by most.

Colts - Sure Luck is a rookie but he already looks better than many NFL starters. The way he bounced back vs the Steelers spoke volumes. The Colts as a team look much stronger in general and could surprise everyone this season. I think the Texans are going to have their hands full with this team. Heck they lost to them last season with Dan Orlovsky at the helm.

Jags - Another team looking much improved in the preseason. I didn't think Gabbert would ever pan out however I could be wrong. Sure it's preseason so I don't look at wins and losses but the Jags have looked pretty good when their starters have played. They are putting up points so far. I can see the Texans dropping 1 of 2 to these guys this season.

Titans - Living near Tampa I watched them vs the Bucs. Chris Johnson looked real sharp. Defensively they looked decent too. The obvious weakness of this team is at QB. Jake Locker looked pretty bad and Hasselback didn't look much better vs the Bucs scrubs. Because of this the Titans could take a step back this season from 9-7.

I believe this discussion was brought up a while ago.

Everyone kept talking about the titans and I said I wouldn't be surprised if the colts were better and the jags were about as good.

I definitely remember talking about the colts and luck.

Freeney and Mathis are still there and will be bringing pressure. They added some pieces defensively.

And luck is going to be good. Will likely have some tough moments, but overall I think he'll be fine. With those two te's and Reggie Wayne I think he has some good weapons.

We should beat all these teams, but I wouldn't be surprised if this division was not a cake walk.

Lucky
08-22-2012, 09:17 PM
Well, we won one more game than the awful Titans last year.
The Texans wrapped up the AFC South with 3 weeks to go in the season, then coasted into the playoffs. Like a lot of football scores, this wasn't as close as it appeared.

BullBlitz
08-22-2012, 09:50 PM
The Texans wrapped up the AFC South with 3 weeks to go in the season, then coasted into the playoffs. Like a lot of football scores, this wasn't as close as it appeared.

Neither was the Ravens game.

Lucky
08-22-2012, 09:57 PM
Neither was the Ravens game.
How do you figure that? It's not as if the Texans had a late 4th quarter score to cut the lead to 7. The Texans led in total yards and kept it to a one score game from the 2nd quarter on.

Norg
08-24-2012, 05:38 AM
every year i think our divison will be tought u just goota set the tone tho whatever the colts did to win it like 8 years thats what we gotta do

Hookem Horns
08-24-2012, 07:57 AM
My two favorite teams in the NFC to follow are the 49ers and the Seahawks. Seahawks just 'cause I got lots of relatives in that part of the country, and the 49ers because I just like them. I'm glad the 49ers are doing well myself, but will root against them every time if they get anywhere near the Texans. It always does my heart good to see old replay playoff games where the 49ers beat the Cowgirls. :)

I grew up an Oilers and Bucs fan. I also started rooting for the Giants later after having lived up there and being a rival of the Cowboys. That all being said I was always an Oilers now Texans fan first. The only time that I would root for either over the Texans is if the Texans were out of the playoff picture and one needed the win to make the playoffs. Other than that I root for the Texans.

Now that my new local team is the Bucs and I grew up rooting for them as my 2nd favorite team I will be following them more strongly and probably less so the Giants. I can only really follow 2 teams (1 AFC and 1 NFC). Actually I am going to Raymond James for the first time ever tonight.

With all of that said I would not like my 2 favorite teams in the same Super Bowl. I don't even like when they play in the regular season. It's much more fun when the team you are rooting for are playing a team you don't like.

Hervoyel
08-24-2012, 01:14 PM
Titans return game just got a lot less intimidating. Not dancing over Mariani's injury, just pointing out the obvious. The division looks easy, the division looks tough.... wait, no easy..... err, tough....wait...

It's going to change plenty over the cours of the year.

Ouch..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MR_VCGeYG

rush2112mn
08-24-2012, 01:52 PM
Division games are not going to be easy as some may think. We still have yet to win in Indy...0 for 10 so far. You can say we should go 6-0 in the division.....well its easier said than done. You also have a big target on your backs this year. Your going to get the best from every team.....no matter if they are a good team or bad team. Your the hunted now. Some teams are going to consider beating us as winning the superbowl...I can guarantee that.
I never consider the division cakewalk....maybe sporttalk fans did.....I did not....

Norg
08-24-2012, 06:24 PM
Division games are not going to be easy as some may think. We still have yet to win in Indy...0 for 10 so far. You can say we should go 6-0 in the division.....well its easier said than done. You also have a big target on your backs this year. Your going to get the best from every team.....no matter if they are a good team or bad team. Your the hunted now. Some teams are going to consider beating us as winning the superbowl...I can guarantee that.
I never consider the division cakewalk....maybe sporttalk fans did.....I did not....

yes just like we treated each divison game in the past like there is no tommarow the other 3 teams will do the same

every year our divison will be like WW3 no matter how good or bad the teams are

jaayteetx
09-11-2012, 02:46 PM
After week one, all is as it should be in AFC South land...

Hervoyel
09-11-2012, 05:12 PM
After week one, all is as it should be in AFC South land...


Yep, after week one it's look like we're back to cake again.

Norg
09-14-2012, 04:20 AM
we will find out this week i cant wait

Cerberus
09-14-2012, 06:56 AM
Once figured to be a cake walk (for the Texans) it's starting to look more like a walk through mud. This division is going to be more difficult than originally thought by most.

Colts - Sure Luck is a rookie but he already looks better than many NFL starters. The way he bounced back vs the Steelers spoke volumes. The Colts as a team look much stronger in general and could surprise everyone this season. I think the Texans are going to have their hands full with this team. Heck they lost to them last season with Dan Orlovsky at the helm.

Jags - Another team looking much improved in the preseason. I didn't think Gabbert would ever pan out however I could be wrong. Sure it's preseason so I don't look at wins and losses but the Jags have looked pretty good when their starters have played. They are putting up points so far. I can see the Texans dropping 1 of 2 to these guys this season.

Titans - Living near Tampa I watched them vs the Bucs. Chris Johnson looked real sharp. Defensively they looked decent too. The obvious weakness of this team is at QB. Jake Locker looked pretty bad and Hasselback didn't look much better vs the Bucs scrubs. Because of this the Titans could take a step back this season from 9-7.

Still looks like a cake-walk from where I sit.

After week one, all is as it should be in AFC South land...

Yep.

Yep, after week one it's look like we're back to cake again.

Yep.

thunderkyss
09-14-2012, 08:40 AM
Still looks like a cake-walk from where I sit.



Yep.



Yep.

I'm changing my outlook from mud to cake..... CJ2ypc, Locker, Luck, Gabbert...

If we are what they are saying we are, we had better dominate our division.

Hervoyel
09-14-2012, 01:06 PM
I'm changing my outlook from mud to cake..... CJ2ypc, Locker, Luck, Gabbert...

If we are what they are saying we are, we had better dominate our division.


No, no, no. It's not "Mud or Cake?". It's "Cake or Death?"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNjcuZ-LiSY

Double Barrel
09-14-2012, 01:14 PM
Can we make that pie, the far superior dessert? I mean, who doesn't like mud pie, especially from Mississippi? :drool:

Stemp
09-16-2012, 06:19 PM
So are there people here who still think it's turning to mud?

Titans and Jags are still winless.
Indy got a win, but is still suspect.
Houston has two very impressive wins.

thunderkyss
09-16-2012, 06:42 PM
If we are what they are saying we are, we had better dominate our division.

Not as dominant as I would like, but some dominating moments for sure.

Hervoyel
09-16-2012, 07:52 PM
My only reservation at this point is that Luck is IMO the real thing and we're going to meet him twice late in the year. There's two ways to look at this. Positive outlook is that by the time we play him regardless of how successful he is we'll have film on him. Negative outlook is that by the time we play him he could very well have his legs under him and be starting to get comfortable. By the time we meet him the game might have slowed down considerably from his perspective.

Now Gabbert and Locker I'm not worried about. At least in Gabbert's case I've watched enough bad quarterbacking from David Carr to know how this ends. Gabbert looks lost and one bad play away from unraveling all the time.

GP
09-16-2012, 08:05 PM
Unless we screw up, we got it made.

Not even Luck can derail us. I was flipping between our game and the Colts-Vikes. He's not as special as Manning, folks.

He looks a lot like a more mobile Drew Bledsoe...accurate, good arm, commands the offense well.

CloakNNNdagger
09-16-2012, 08:09 PM
Luck could develop into something special. But I still doubt that it will happen this year. As I posted in another thread, the Vikings team that he beat is the same team that barely beat the Jags last week

Dutchrudder
09-16-2012, 08:12 PM
So are there people here who still think it's turning to mud?

Titans and Jags are still winless.
Indy got a win, but is still suspect.
Houston has two very impressive wins.

Looks more like Mississippi Mud Pie to me. Mmmmmm delicious!

6-0 in the division is attainable if we want it. I have my doubts about that last game at Indy though. We may be playing our backups that game.

ChampionTexan
09-16-2012, 08:12 PM
Unless we screw up, we got it made.

Not even Luck can derail us. I was flipping between our game and the Colts-Vikes. He's not as special as Manning, folks.

He looks a lot like a more mobile Drew Bledsoe...accurate, good arm, commands the offense well.

Luck could develop into something special. But I still doubt that it will happen this year. As I posted in another thread, the Vikings team that he beat is the same team that barely beat the Jags last week

Throw in the fact that the talent level on the rest of the roster is pretty bad, and I'll worry about Mr. Luck some other year.

GlassHalfFull
09-16-2012, 08:18 PM
Looks more like Mississippi Mud Pie to me. Mmmmmm delicious!

6-0 in the division is attainable if we want it. I have my doubts about that last game at Indy though. We may be playing our backups that game.

I hate that the schedule has us playing Indy twice so close to the end of the season. Division games should be more spread out. And yes, if we have clinched stuff, look for backups and conservative play.

Stemp
09-16-2012, 08:30 PM
Looks more like Mississippi Mud Pie to me. Mmmmmm delicious!

6-0 in the division is attainable if we want it. I have my doubts about that last game at Indy though. We may be playing our backups that game.

Only one I'm slightly concerned about is @Indy, only because that place has bad mojo for us and it's the last game and we might be resting our starters again. But it's only a slight concern.

TEXANRED
09-16-2012, 09:35 PM
Not as dominant as I would like, but some dominating moments for sure.

Yeah I hear ya. Only winning by 20 points two weeks in a row.

HJam72
09-16-2012, 09:45 PM
At this point all I'm worried about is injuries and other elite teams, especially in our conference. I'm really glad to see NE and Balt. losing some. Yeah, I'm worried about Luck in the future, but his team doesn't scare me.

thunderkyss
09-16-2012, 10:30 PM
6-0 in the division is attainable if we want it. I have my doubts about that last game at Indy though. We may be playing our backups that game.

Tj Yates, LeStar Jean, Keshaun Martin, Ben Tate, Mercilus, Crick, Demps, Mr Alexander etc... against Andrew Luck??

I can't wait!!!

:texan:

Norg
09-17-2012, 04:25 AM
vs titans wk17 last year i think even our backups proved they can win some games for us LOL


u never know what can happen later on injures is the big part luck could be on IR by the time we play the colts .....tho i would never wish injury on anybody stuff happens Knocks on wood

toronto
09-17-2012, 08:46 AM
You guys sure don't have to worry about the Titans. I am using the Ol Rich Mcay line. I am in favor of the teams execution.

HOU-TEX
09-17-2012, 10:13 AM
You guys sure don't have to worry about the Titans. I am using the Ol Rich Mcay line. I am in favor of the teams execution.

Hey toronto, honest question. Have you ever heard or read CJ take any of the blame for his performances? Everything I've read has him blaming other areas for his dismal play. This is a latest comment from him.

“People need to step up and do their job,” Johnson said, via John Glennon of the Tennessean. “They don’t need to let people beat them. It don’t matter who the opposing defense is, you can’t let your guy beat you. You just can’t give up plays. You have to make plays like they make plays. I can’t speak for the defense. I can only speak for the offense.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/chris-johnson-people-need-to-do-their-jobs/

toronto
09-17-2012, 10:43 AM
Hey toronto, honest question. Have you ever heard or read CJ take any of the blame for his performances? Everything I've read has him blaming other areas for his dismal play. This is a latest comment from him.



http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/09/17/chris-johnson-people-need-to-do-their-jobs/

I'm surprised he was able to speak that eloquently. In short, I see a player that doesn't want to get hit, doesn't hit holes with any authority and appears to be the latest example of a player that played for his his big contract then began is disappearance into the abyss.

He's about to learn why the NFL doesn't guarantee contracts. He may have gotten his signing bonus but I've seen enough the last 18 games to suggest this is not a player I'm interested in building my team around. I simply don't see the effort. When I watched him in his rookie year, he hit holes with abandon, played with a ton of joy and make something out of nothing a lot.

That's about all I can say about him. As for his comments?

Sadly (well not for you guys but for me) this team looks like a trainwreck. The playcalling is grade-school level and the personnel, expecially on offense, looks like it wants to be ANYWERE but the football field. This offense is more predictable now than when Les Steckel or Norm Chow was the OC. Its that bad. I remember when people were laughing at the team's choice of Chris Palmer, and now I know why. If I can see and guess the play that is being called, imagine pros that spend countless hours in the film room feel. I'd be shocked if the team wasn't a quiet laughingstock right now in opposing teams' dressing rooms.

When your defense spends 43 minutes on the field and through two games has been outscored 72-23, there is nothing good to say. With Detroit and the Texans next, I'll actually be shocked if the team isn't 0-4.

It appears the 9-7 mark last season is about as fraudulent as a 9-7 record can humanly look.

HOU-TEX
09-17-2012, 10:52 AM
I'm surprised he was able to speak that eloquently. In short, I see a player that doesn't want to get hit, doesn't hit holes with any authority and appears to be the latest example of a player that played for his his big contract then began is disappearance into the abyss.

He's about to learn why the NFL doesn't guarantee contracts. He may have gotten his signing bonus but I've seen enough the last 18 games to suggest this is not a player I'm interested in building my team around. I simply don't see the effort. When I watched him in his rookie year, he hit holes with abandon, played with a ton of joy and make something out of nothing a lot.

That's about all I can say about him. As for his comments?

Sadly (well not for you guys but for me) this team looks like a trainwreck. The playcalling is grade-school level and the personnel, expecially on offense, looks like it wants to be ANYWERE but the football field. This offense is more predictable now than when Les Steckel or Norm Chow was the OC. Its that bad. I remember when people were laughing at the team's choice of Chris Palmer, and now I know why. If I can see and guess the play that is being called, imagine pros that spend countless hours in the film room feel. I'd be shocked if the team wasn't a quiet laughingstock right now in opposing teams' dressing rooms.

When your defense spends 43 minutes on the field and through two games has been outscored 72-23, there is nothing good to say. With Detroit and the Texans next, I'll actually be shocked if the team isn't 0-4.

It appears the 9-7 mark last season is about as fraudulent as a 9-7 record can humanly look.

Thanks. I figured it was still the "gettin paid". I hadn't seen any of their games this season to verify that was still the case. I wonder how long they're going to keep giving him paychecks? I kinda feel sorry for Munch, but I quickly realize y'alls losing is what's best for us. :)

Norg
09-17-2012, 05:02 PM
i dont by hit every team in the AFC south has had trouble with the Chargers i dont think the titans have not beat the chargers in a looonggg time the texans never and the colts have had a hard time has well

the chargers just have our divisons number

thunderkyss
09-17-2012, 10:22 PM
i dont by hit every team in the AFC south has had trouble with the Chargers i dont think the titans have not beat the chargers in a looonggg time the texans never and the colts have had a hard time has well

the chargers just have our divisons number

no es hablar Ingles mas?

Norg
09-17-2012, 11:37 PM
so does the AFC south play this week ????

The Pencil Neck
09-18-2012, 01:52 AM
so does the AFC south play this week ????

I think you're missing some words in this question. I'm going to assume you're asking WHO the AFC South teams are going to play this week.

Jags play Colts in Indy.

Titans play the Lions in Tennessee.

OTOH, that might not be what you're asking at all.

Thorn
09-18-2012, 06:31 PM
So are there people here who still think it's turning to mud?

Titans and Jags are still winless.
Indy got a win, but is still suspect.
Houston has two very impressive wins.

Let's wait a few more weeks. I still say we win division, just like I've always said we would, but whether it's a cake walk or a difficult run to the division championship it's still means we're the AFCS champs.

Showtime100
09-18-2012, 06:35 PM
Power rankings are out and I'm sure somebody will start a thread. Niners and Texans galore at #1 and #2.

The nearest AFC South team in in the 20-somethings. Just power rankings, but I see no mud here.

b0ng
09-20-2012, 09:41 PM
Not as dominant as I would like, but some dominating moments for sure.

We've played two games and after each one was over Dolphins and Jaguars fans were wondering if they were going to get the first pick in the draft next season. Each opponent was out coached so badly their respective fan bases were left wondering if their new coaching hires were mistakes. We turned each defense on its head badly enough to go into half time up almost 20. What else do you want, to beat em blindfolded with one hand tied behind their backs?

The Pencil Neck
09-20-2012, 10:15 PM
We've played two games and after each one was over Dolphins and Jaguars fans were wondering if they were going to get the first pick in the draft next season. Each opponent was out coached so badly their respective fan bases were left wondering if their new coaching hires were mistakes. We turned each defense on its head badly enough to go into half time up almost 20. What else do you want, to beat em blindfolded with one hand tied behind their backs?

Listen.

If we don't score on every possession, it's a fail. And it's a Kubiak fail.

If our defense doesn't stuff every play, it's a fail. And that's a Smithiak fail, too.

20 point victories are for wussies.

If we don't start running up some big damned scores, there's going to be hell to pay.







That was sarcasm, btw. In case you couldn't hear the dripping noise.

ObsiWan
09-21-2012, 08:24 AM
Listen.

If we don't score on every possession, it's a fail. And it's a Kubiak fail.

If our defense doesn't stuff every play, it's a fail. And that's a Smithiak fail, too.

20 point victories are for wussies.

If we don't start running up some big damned scores, there's going to be hell to pay.







That was sarcasm, btw. In case you couldn't hear the dripping noise.


next time, use this :sarcasm:
...just to be on the safe side
:)

Double Barrel
09-21-2012, 11:27 AM
Power rankings are out and I'm sure somebody will start a thread. Niners and Texans galore at #1 and #2.

The nearest AFC South team in in the 20-somethings. Just power rankings, but I see no mud here.

Texans / 49ers Super Bowl!!! :koolaid:

thunderkyss
09-23-2012, 08:22 PM
Listen.

If we don't score on every possession, it's a fail. And it's a Kubiak fail.

If our defense doesn't stuff every play, it's a fail. And that's a Smithiak fail, too.

20 point victories are for wussies.

If we don't start running up some big damned scores, there's going to be hell to pay.







That was sarcasm, btw. In case you couldn't hear the dripping noise.

Listen, I ain't like that. I like good football, I want to see good football. If we're playing sloppy football, playing flat & manage 6 minutes of awesome defense & "good" offense against mediocre defenses.... I'm not going to be all "rah, rah" Texans.

I'm also not going to say the sky is falling. Vs Jacksonville, I said we had some dominate moments... that's all. I'd have liked us to look like the team I think we can be on a more consistent basis.

It's early in the season, we've got time to "gel" so it's all good. This weeks game was much better, we played at a high level from start to finish, what I'm sure Kubiak is striving for. Not playing down to the competition, but playing our best on every snap regardless who our opponent is.

Norg
09-24-2012, 01:38 PM
this is a bigger and more important game then denver if we can win this one we can pretty much put our main foe the titans in a early hole and since we already won a road game in jaxs we will be sitting pretty good

thunderkyss
09-24-2012, 08:19 PM
this is a bigger and more important game then denver if we can win this one we can pretty much put our main foe the titans in a early hole and since we already won a road game in jaxs we will be sitting pretty good

eh... we'll probably win the division regardless. Beating the Broncos head-to-head might help us in tie breakers later on.

who knows??

ObsiWan
09-25-2012, 03:21 PM
eh... we'll probably win the division regardless. Beating the Broncos head-to-head might help us in tie breakers later on.

who knows??

Yep... conference record is one of the tie-breakers.

Playoffs
10-01-2012, 07:46 AM
Colts 1-2
Jaguars 1-3
Titans 1-3

Señor Stan
10-01-2012, 07:54 AM
^^^^
title fixed

GP
10-01-2012, 03:37 PM
^^^^
title fixed

I just tossed about 300 rep points your way for that. Laughed my butt off when I read your title change.

Nicely done.

thunderkyss
10-01-2012, 04:33 PM
Aaaaahhhh yeah (http://www.nfl.com/)!!

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2012/10/01/0ap1000000068343.jpg

thunderkyss
10-01-2012, 05:17 PM
I'm running linux. I just set the picture in my previous post as my splash/log on screen.


pretty cool in a geeky kind of way.

infantrycak
10-01-2012, 06:06 PM
Week 5 is not looking good for our division mates - would expect all to be underdogs:

Packers @ Colts
Bears @ Jaguars
Titans @ Vikings

Wonder how much losing Pagano is going to hurt the Colts?

TexanSam
10-01-2012, 07:07 PM
Aaaaahhhh yeah (http://www.nfl.com/)!!

http://static.nfl.com/static/content/public/photo/2012/10/01/0ap1000000068343.jpg

Man, the Cardinals are getting disrespected big time. They're 4-0 and still not in the discussion.

thunderkyss
10-01-2012, 07:56 PM
Man, the Cardinals are getting disrespected big time. They're 4-0 and still not in the discussion.

Honestly, 4-0 really doesn't mean anything other than you've had a good September. Good Septembers aren't what it's about. Remember how the Bills started last year? & the Cards have got Kolb as their QB, sort of. They're just as likely to end the season 4-12 as they are 12-4.

It's not disrespect, it's reality.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they have no shot, only it's too early to tell. People aren't thinking the Texans have a shot because we're 4-0 right now. They think we've got a shot because of what we did last year & that we are 4-0.

silentassassin
10-01-2012, 08:42 PM
Honestly, 4-0 really doesn't mean anything other than you've had a good September. Good Septembers aren't what it's about. Remember how the Bills started last year? & the Cards have got Kolb as their QB, sort of. They're just as likely to end the season 4-12 as they are 12-4.

It's not disrespect, it's reality.


Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying they have no shot, only it's too early to tell. People aren't thinking the Texans have a shot because we're 4-0 right now. They think we've got a shot because of what we did last year & that we are 4-0.

Very good point. Exactly why teams like New England, Baltimore, etc. get an almost excessive benefit of doubt.

majestrate
10-01-2012, 08:44 PM
Week 5 is not looking good for our division mates - would expect all to be underdogs:

Packers @ Colts
Bears @ Jaguars
Titans @ Vikings

Wonder how much losing Pagano is going to hurt the Colts?
If the offense starts clicking with Hasselbeck, TN will be able to hang in there long enough to have a shot at winning in the 4th quarter

thunderkyss
10-01-2012, 08:50 PM
If the offense starts clicking with Hasselbeck, TN will be able to hang in there long enough to have a shot at winning in the 4th quarter

I think the Titans are a play-off contender with Hasselbeck as their QB. His health has been his biggest issue, not his ability to play.

GP
10-01-2012, 10:02 PM
I think the Titans are a play-off contender with Hasselbeck as their QB. His health has been his biggest issue, not his ability to play.

Yeah, I'm sure of it now.

I know these types of posts by heart. Only one other TT poster makes analysis calls like that one ^^^^.

toronto
10-02-2012, 12:47 AM
I think the Titans are a play-off contender with Hasselbeck as their QB. His health has been his biggest issue, not his ability to play.

Nope. Not even close. Team has too many missing pieces and I strongly believe this is a weak coaching staff. They are terrible in the trenches and outside McCarthy, have very little in terms of playmakers on defense. They needed to completely cut the chord from the Fisher regime and didn't do it.

Half-assing it is going to prove costly. This team is gonna have to get worse to get better.

Ranger Tom
10-02-2012, 03:49 PM
I wouldn't feel too confident if I were a Tennessean. The Vikings are a much better team than I would have predicted at the start of the season.

Norg
10-04-2012, 03:56 PM
if colts lose then yeah i think it turns to spring water

Hookem Horns
11-05-2012, 03:16 PM
Colts are 5-3 and only 2 games behind us. As with the Texans they have their own destiny in their hands so the "mud" walk will start the 2 out of the last 3 weeks.

Looks like the Titans are going to "take a step back" and not going to finish 9-7.

Was wrong about the Jags being better. They actually look worse. However as Meat Loaf brought out years ago when he could still sing ... ".. don't be sad 'cause 2 out of 3 ain't bad".

Fili
11-05-2012, 03:31 PM
Colts are just riding the Luck train. If we shut them out both this season I don't think they'll make it.

Hervoyel
11-05-2012, 03:44 PM
Colts are just riding the Luck train. If we shut them out both this season I don't think they'll make it.

You know, I think as much as anything they're riding the emotional power of playing for Chuck. They're very dangerous with that motivating them and this is the year the Texans need to play in Houston and go to Indianapolis with destruction on their minds. Andrew Luck needs to begin his career 0-2 against the Texans. That's a must-have in my book.

I think last year should have been the year the Texans swept the Colts. When the refs absolutely, beyond any shadow of a doubt stole a win from the Texans in Indy and kept that from happening (11 penalties my ass, Jerome Boger is a joke of a referee) they messed with the order of the universe and more importantly the order of the division. Last year was the transfer of power but in some kind of cosmic slap in the face the Colts escaped their responsibility and fate.

This season the Texans are in the redemption business and beating teams they've never beaten before. The Jets got theirs. The Ravens really got theirs. Now it's time to sweep the Colts. It's time they watched their rookie QB run for his life. We've been down that road. Their turn now.

Double Barrel
11-05-2012, 05:47 PM
Colts are just riding the Luck train. If we shut them out both this season I don't think they'll make it.

I hope you're right. I do not think I could get out of a depression resulting from losing to the Colts in the playoffs. I'm not saying this will happen, but rather if it did happen, I think I'd just quit everything...except steak.

JCTexan
11-05-2012, 06:17 PM
Colts are just riding the Luck train. If we shut them out both this season I don't think they'll make it.

The Colts still have a few tough games on their schedule (@NE & Hou x2), but they still have Jacksonville, Tennessee, Detroit, Kansas City & Buffalo on their schedule. A 5-3 remaining record in they're likely going to be in as a wild-card team. I could easily see an Indy-Denver Wild-Card game this year.

thunderkyss
11-05-2012, 06:45 PM
Colts are just riding the Luck train. If we shut them out both this season I don't think they'll make it.

You know, I think as much as anything they're riding the emotional power of playing for Chuck. They're very dangerous with that motivating them and this is the year the Texans need to play in Houston and go to Indianapolis with destruction on their minds. Andrew Luck needs to begin his career 0-2 against the Texans. That's a must-have in my book.

I think last year should have been the year the Texans swept the Colts.

I wouldn't think too much on "having to" sweep the Colts this year. We play in Indy week 17 & if Kubiak does what he did last year (& I think he should) we'll be playing our JV team against them. Even if Homefield is on the line, I think he'll play the starters to see how it goes, to keep them in a rhythm, but we'll see Forsette & Grimes featured by mid second qtr. Crick & Mitchell, Brahman & Mister getting most of the defensive snaps.

As far as two games behind, I'll start to worry if they beat the Patriots. Next week they play the Jags, it's almost a bye week for them, while we go see the Bears. Then we'll play the Jags at home & they'll go see the Brady's. So if we lose to the Bears & they beat the Patriots two games from now they'll have gained a game on us. 8-2 vs 7-3

From there, they've got Buffalo, Detroit, Tennessee, Houston, Kansas City, & Houston

We'll have Detroit, Tennessee, New England, Indy, Minnesota, Indy.

By the time they come to Reliant, they can be 10-3, We could be 10-3 if we lose to New England & Chicago & they beat New England.

If we beat them at home, we go to 11-3, they go to 10-4

If they beat Kansas City then they'll be 11-4 when we see them in Indy. If we beat Minnesota, we'll be 12-3

So, let's say that's the case, let's say we lose that game & we're both 12-4, who wins the division?

I don't think it will happen that way. I think we beat Chicago & they lose to New England, they may even lose to the Jags next week (unlikely, but... ) So if we beat Chicago & they lose to New England we'll be 13-3 going into Indy & they'll be 10-5 & the game won't matter, unless we're going for homefield, but I doubt homefield will be enough for Gary to keep the starters in all game.


Sorry for the rant, just thinking out loud.

JCTexan
11-05-2012, 07:08 PM
I wouldn't think too much on "having to" sweep the Colts this year. We play in Indy week 17 & if Kubiak does what he did last year (& I think he should) we'll be playing our JV team against them. Even if Homefield is on the line, I think he'll play the starters to see how it goes, to keep them in a rhythm, but we'll see Forsette & Grimes featured by mid second qtr. Crick & Mitchell, Brahman & Mister getting most of the defensive snaps.

As far as two games behind, I'll start to worry if they beat the Patriots. Next week they play the Jags, it's almost a bye week for them, while we go see the Bears. Then we'll play the Jags at home & they'll go see the Brady's. So if we lose to the Bears & they beat the Patriots two games from now they'll have gained a game on us. 8-2 vs 7-3

From there, they've got Buffalo, Detroit, Tennessee, Houston, Kansas City, & Houston

We'll have Detroit, Tennessee, New England, Indy, Minnesota, Indy.

By the time they come to Reliant, they can be 10-3, We could be 10-3 if we lose to New England & Chicago & they beat New England.

If we beat them at home, we go to 11-3, they go to 10-4

If they beat Kansas City then they'll be 11-4 when we see them in Indy. If we beat Minnesota, we'll be 12-3

So, let's say that's the case, let's say we lose that game & we're both 12-4, who wins the division?

I don't think it will happen that way. I think we beat Chicago & they lose to New England, they may even lose to the Jags next week (unlikely, but... ) So if we beat Chicago & they lose to New England we'll be 13-3 going into Indy & they'll be 10-5 & the game won't matter, unless we're going for homefield, but I doubt homefield will be enough for Gary to keep the starters in all game.


Sorry for the rant, just thinking out loud.

First tiebreaker is h2h. It would be tied at that stage, so scratch that off. The 2nd tiebreaker scenario would be the divisional games. The Colts have already lost to Jacksonville so Houston would hold the tiebreaker in this scenario.

Norg
11-06-2012, 12:45 AM
I hope the Jags beat the colts plzzz show up Jaxs for god shakes

mootini
11-06-2012, 07:00 AM
Sorry, the Jags are the worst in the league and the worst @ home! I want to push the fastforward button on this season....I've never seen a team this bad! I gave away my tickets for Thrusday night's game to the Military Appreciation. You can chalk up a big W for the Colts!


I hope the Jags beat the colts plzzz show up Jaxs for god shakes

Double Barrel
11-06-2012, 12:13 PM
The Colts still have a few tough games on their schedule (@NE & Hou x2), but they still have Jacksonville, Tennessee, Detroit, Kansas City & Buffalo on their schedule. A 5-3 remaining record in they're likely going to be in as a wild-card team. I could easily see an Indy-Denver Wild-Card game this year.

That would be cool to see, all things considered.

Stemp
11-06-2012, 12:26 PM
I see Indy dropping NE, Buffalo, Detroit and at least 1 Houston game.
That puts them at 9-7. I don't see us dropping anymore than 3 (Chicago, NE and maybe the last Indy game) which put us at 12-4 and likely the top seed in the AFC.

And yes, we get a bye and play the winner of a Denver/Indy game.

Thorn
11-06-2012, 12:38 PM
I see Indy dropping NE, Buffalo, Detroit and at least 1 Houston game.
That puts them at 9-7. I don't see us dropping anymore than 3 (Chicago, NE and maybe the last Indy game) which put us at 12-4 and likely the top seed in the AFC.

And yes, we get a bye and play the winner of a Denver/Indy game.

I think we'll win one of the two games at NE or Chicage, lose an Indy game and also one more that we should have won but didn't, so I agree with the 12-4. At the same time, I also think it much more likely we'll go 11-5 rather than 13-3. But I think 12-4 is good.

drs23
11-07-2012, 01:26 PM
[QUOTE=Fiddler;2051291]I wouldn't think too much on "having to" sweep the Colts this year. We play in Indy week 17 & if Kubiak does what he did last year (& I think he should) we'll be playing our JV team against them. Even if Homefield is on the line, I think he'll play the starters to see how it goes, to keep them in a rhythm, but we'll see Forsette & Grimes featured by mid second qtr. Crick & Mitchell, Brahman & Mister getting most of the defensive snaps.

As in "Alexander"? When did he come back? Or is he?

Mr teX
11-07-2012, 01:42 PM
Division is still cake...

The jags are still starting Gabbert at qb....trash

the titans just got smoked by Chi and their qb play is garbage

& though luck looks to be the real deal, they aren't their yet.

Playoffs
11-08-2012, 09:13 AM
Colts are 5-3 and only 2 games behind us. As with the Texans they have their own destiny in their hands so the "mud" walk will start the 2 out of the last 3 weeks...
Yeah, just looking at that.

If the Colts beat (1-7) Jacksonville and the Texans lose at Chicago, both plausible, we are only 1 game up on Andrew & Co.

Just saw Colts players are shaving their heads in support of Pagano. Those boys feeling like they have a bit more to play for. Cake getting muddy.

Norg
11-08-2012, 07:18 PM
Screw Dis we control or own destiny !!!!!!! If the texans choke it it will not be because of the colts or pats it will be on the texans

Showtime100
11-08-2012, 07:49 PM
Screw Dis we control or own destiny !!!!!!! If the texans choke it it will not be because of the colts or pats it will be on the texans

Puctuation or lower/higher, wow.

thunderkyss
11-08-2012, 08:45 PM
Yeah, just looking at that.

If the Colts beat (1-7) Jacksonville and the Texans lose at Chicago, both plausible, we are only 1 game up on Andrew & Co.


The Jags are on our schedule too.... twice, so I'm not worried about the Colts beating the Jags. I've already accepted it as fact.

I'm more worried about them beating New England or even Detroit. The way they've been playing lately, it's hard to tell who they really are. If it's the emotion thing & they can keep it going for another few weeks, yeah, the AFC South has gotten really tight & this division may be up for grabs.

Chicago, New England, Detroit even Minnesota & especially the Colts game would slide closer to "must wins"

We're in the lead so far, but (in a way) I'd like to see the Colts make a race of it. I have my doubts about Kubiak's ability to produce with that kind of pressure. Yeah, I'd like to see a Super Bowl, but if he can't handle a little push by the Colts, he wasn't going to get us a Super Bowl anyway.

jmo.

GP
11-09-2012, 10:36 AM
I will never understand the fans who say they WANT to face the toughest opponents. They WANT to see a race of it between us and another team.

I really fail to grasp the thought process.

Whether we beat the Washington Generals or the NFC Probowl team, I could give a rat's ass. Winning is all that matters, and if we have an easier time of it then so be it. Good for us. We damn sure deserve a few breaks, tbh.

Mr teX
11-09-2012, 10:40 AM
I will never understand the fans who say they WANT to face the toughest opponents. They WANT to see a race of it between us and another team.

I really fail to grasp the thought process.

Whether we beat the Washington Generals or the NFC Probowl team, I could give a rat's ass. Winning is all that matters, and if we have an easier time of it then so be it. Good for us. We damn sure deserve a few breaks, tbh.

There's something to be said for facing the toughest of the lot though. Many a team in all sports have found out that they weren't as good as they thought they were when they faced a team that could match up with them...See the ATL falcons in 2010 & the Dallas Cowboys in 2009.

Teams that match up with you give you a better idea of how good you really are.

GP
11-09-2012, 01:31 PM
There's something to be said for facing the toughest of the lot though. Many a team in all sports have found out that they weren't as good as they thought they were when they faced a team that could match up with them...See the ATL falcons in 2010 & the Dallas Cowboys in 2009.

Teams that match up with you give you a better idea of how good you really are.

Well, in that case the NY Football Giants have recently been one of the worst regular season teams who actually went on to run the table in the playoffs and become the best team in the end.

How does it matter for us to find out how well we are in the reg season when you cannot win the Super Bowl without going undefeated in the playoffs?

I just want a trophy. Isn't that good enough? LOL.

thunderkyss
11-09-2012, 08:54 PM
We damn sure deserve a few breaks, tbh.

yup