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Rey
08-18-2012, 09:00 PM
Not a fan of that last return by holiday either. He's not going to break every time, but I don't like how he is returning those punts. Hopefully we can force more punts because he needs more work there.

He's clearly more comfortable on kick offs.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:00 PM
The blue suit NFL.com fantasy football dude needs to die. Suffocated with his own jacket.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:01 PM
Ok, I was going to lose it if they didn't call that.

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:02 PM
aaaaand HarButt starts bitchin' about the call in
3
...2
......1
:spin:

AnthonyE
08-18-2012, 09:03 PM
Not a fan of that last return by holiday either. He's not going to break every time, but I don't like how he is returning those punts. Hopefully we can force more punts because he needs more work there.

He's clearly more comfortable on kick offs.

My guess is that he's only fielding because its pre-season and he wants to show what he can do. I suspect those returns would end come the regular season.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:03 PM
Not a fan of that last return by holiday either. He's not going to break every time, but I don't like how he is returning those punts. Hopefully we can force more punts because he needs more work there.

He's clearly more comfortable on kick offs.

i thought it was a damn good PR

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:04 PM
Lestar should catch those.

aussie_texan
08-18-2012, 09:04 PM
i don't want to see the score so i can't go to NFL.com or anything like that.

just wondering if you guys could let me now which quarter and how long left because I'm going to watch it on re-play on game pass?

thanks guys

kingh99
08-18-2012, 09:05 PM
K-Jax the Knife wrecked Brandon Jacobs. Hopefully it's not serious but the wire service is saying knee injury.

AnthonyE
08-18-2012, 09:05 PM
i don't want to see the score so i can't go to NFL.com or anything like that.

just wondering if you guys could let me now which quarter and how long left because I'm going to watch it on re-play on game pass?

thanks guys



5:41 left in the 3rd quarter.

kingh99
08-18-2012, 09:05 PM
Seen enough of Tate. Take him out please.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:06 PM
i don't want to see the score so i can't go to NFL.com or anything like that.

just wondering if you guys could let me now which quarter and how long left because I'm going to watch it on re-play on game pass?

thanks guys

its 3rd quarter with like 2-3 mins left.

AnthonyE
08-18-2012, 09:06 PM
TJ Yates has not looked good tonight. His reads have been off, and so have his throws. I'm ready to see Case in there.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:06 PM
Are these announcers riding the short bus? Tate clearly missed the blitz pickup and then they credit Bullock with the kick? These dudes are sippin some good stuff tonight.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:07 PM
Ben Tate was thinking about something other than picking up a blitzer on that last play there.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:07 PM
TJ Yates has not looked good tonight. His reads have been off, and so have his throws. I'm ready to see Case in there.

Really, i thought he has looked pretty good considering the lack of pass protection

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2012, 09:07 PM
Bullock??????? (announcer) That was Graham.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:08 PM
i don't want to see the score so i can't go to NFL.com or anything like that.

just wondering if you guys could let me now which quarter and how long left because I'm going to watch it on re-play on game pass?

thanks guys

We're getting killed out there. It's 41-6.

Don't even bother watching. Just kidding.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:08 PM
Special Teams are making my night's sleep a little better so far this year.

kingh99
08-18-2012, 09:08 PM
i thought it was a damn good PR

Me too. Jacoby would have been 2 returns, 40 yards ran sideline to sideline, minus 10 yards net. We beat these guys. It would have been a 4 quarter war in the regular season. Lucky if either team scored a TD. Both starting defenses are dominant.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
i thought it was a damn good PR

So did I. Rey is being harsh tonight. He's Jim Harbaugh'ing it tonight.

eriadoc
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
Seeing a lot of 52 and 59 in the piles. Liking that.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
theres ball letting them catch the ball again. He does have a very fitting name

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
Hey lookit Ball gets burned again

Playoffs
08-18-2012, 09:09 PM
They're saying cramps now for Cushing.

I saw he got nicked earlier on a play.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:10 PM
Damn I hate rooting for opposing players but I like Josh Johnson.

LikeMike
08-18-2012, 09:10 PM
By the way, where is Posey? I know he is a little behind, but I expected a little more of our second pick of our last draft...

GP
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Ball looks...sigh...ya' know.

Playoffs
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Ball has zero proprioception.

AnthonyE
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
Hey lookit Ball gets burned again

Looks like Fred Bennett out there. Decent in run coverage terrible against the pass.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
i thought it was a damn good PR

15 yards is damn good?

Its ok. Not damn good.

I haven't seen anything on punt returns that separates him from other guys. I think he needs to get more comfortable there.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
So did I. Rey is being harsh tonight. He's Jim Harbaugh'ing it tonight.

Thats an understatement.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:11 PM
They're saying cramps now for Cushing.

I saw he got nicked earlier on a play.

It makes me uneasy when the story changes. First he was done for the night, why say this?? Either way I 'm thinking he's good to go for next week.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:13 PM
15 yards is damn good?

Its ok. Not damn good.

I haven't seen anything on punt returns that separates him from other guys. I think he needs to get more comfortable there.

considering how long the ball is staying in the air, and distance. Think back to Mr East and West. He is going north, and still made 3-4 people miss.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:13 PM
Harbaugh pissed off that his FG kicker made the kick.

aussie_texan
08-18-2012, 09:14 PM
5:41 left in the 3rd quarter.

thanks heaps mate

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:14 PM
So did I. Rey is being harsh tonight. He's Jim Harbaugh'ing it tonight.

No I'm not.

Being better than jacoby is not s major accomplishment.

He was ok, but I'd like to see him be better on his punt returns. He is awesome on kick offs but I think he's still adjusting to returning punts in the NFL.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:14 PM
considering how long the ball is staying in the air, and distance. Think back to Mr East and West. He is going north, and still made 3-4 people miss.

You're bringing sense into this discussion. Stop it!

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:15 PM
considering how long the ball is staying in the air, and distance. Think back to Mr East and West. He is going north, and still made 3-4 people miss.

Being better than jacoby is the bench mark?

I'd like to see trindon be special in the return game (both punt and kick return). Not just better than a consummate screw up.

If you are going to be a return specialist you need to be special. Not just ok.

The Medic01
08-18-2012, 09:15 PM
Harbaugh pissed off that his FG kicker made the kick.

God I hate Harbutt. Look he made the field goal but it wouldn't have been good from 65. That means he's gonna go ape****.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:16 PM
Jim is the type of guy who stands up during the important part of a movie and screams how bull**** that one part really is.

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:16 PM
focus TJ focus

GP
08-18-2012, 09:17 PM
No I'm not.

Being better than jacoby is not s major accomplishment.

He was ok, but I'd like to see him be better on his punt returns. He is awesome on kick offs but I think he's still adjusting to returning punts in the NFL.

I'm just teasing you. LOL.

SAMURAITEXAN
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Sloppy

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
These refs are getting on my nerves.

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
wow, nice to work out of that hole

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Being better than jacoby is the bench mark?

I'd like to see trindon be special in the return game (both punt and kick return). Not just better than a consummate screw up.

If you are going to be a return specialist you need to be special. Not just ok.

Not the bench mark, but damn this is an all pro punter for 2 seasons in a row, its def not because he has no hang time and distance to his punting. Holliday is doing good with what he is being given.

htowntexans1985
08-18-2012, 09:18 PM
Is grimes better than forsett? He sure is speedy.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:19 PM
Jesus.

SAMURAITEXAN
08-18-2012, 09:19 PM
Grimes and Leshawn!

GP
08-18-2012, 09:20 PM
#71, you're going to get cut.

Shelley Smith blocked nobody the whole time. Unacceptable.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:22 PM
#71, you're going to get cut.

he was standing there blocking air, he didnt even realize he had let the LB past him. Haha and who was saying TJ is playing bad, things like that are the reason he doesnt look very good.

GP
08-18-2012, 09:23 PM
#71, you're going to get cut.

Shelley Smith blocked nobody the whole time. Unacceptable.

Then on a screen play, he stutter steps and runs in place rather than hunting for a defender to block.

He looked awful that series.

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:24 PM
good thing the Niners were playing for a return. that muff could have been really bad

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:24 PM
Not the bench mark, but damn this is an all pro punter for 2 seasons in a row, its def not because he has no hang time and distance to his punting. Holliday is doing good with what he is being given.

I've been putting holliday on my roster predictions since he's been drafted and I put him on there again this year. I would still put him on there at this point. I've been a big fan of his since college.

I say that to say that I'm not hating on him.

Someone else being great at their job doesn't mean you can't be great at yours.

Again, "doing good" is excellent, but I'd like to see trindon be a great kick returner AND punt returner. It'll make the team that much better.

Right now his punt returns are not at the same level as his kick returns. I'd like to see him improve.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:27 PM
#71, you're going to get cut.

Shelley Smith blocked nobody the whole time. Unacceptable.

I saw that and I think he screwed up pretty bad. Sometimes you do allow lbs in to be picked up by the back but not when the qb is under center.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:28 PM
They really are showing Harbaugh a crazy amount of time compared to, say Kubes, for a Texans broadcast.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:29 PM
There you go. Special.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
Just.....made.....the......team.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
I've been putting holliday on my roster predictions since he's been drafted and I put him on there again this year. I would still put him on there at this point. I've been a big fan of his since college.

I say that to say that I'm not hating on him.

Someone else being great at their job doesn't mean you can't be great at yours.

Again, "doing good" is excellent, but I'd like to see trindon be a great kick returner AND punt returner. It'll make the team that much better.

Right now his punt returns are not at the same level as his kick returns. I'd like to see him improve.

There ya Go !!!!

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
lookit that little mofo run!

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
I've been putting holliday on my roster predictions since he's been drafted and I put him on there again this year. I would still put him on there at this point. I've been a big fan of his since college.

I say that to say that I'm not hating on him.

Someone else being great at their job doesn't mean you can't be great at yours.

Again, "doing good" is excellent, but I'd like to see trindon be a great kick returner AND punt returner. It'll make the team that much better.

Right now his punt returns are not at the same level as his kick returns. I'd like to see him improve.

Better...?
:D

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2012, 09:30 PM
Holliday is a roster spot.

SAMURAITEXAN
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
TD Holliday!!

kingh99
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
I hope Rey approves. Trindon Freaking Holliday!

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
There ya Go !!!!

Well whatayaknow....

Despite a great punt he was also great.

I'm thinking he just made the team.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:31 PM
Trindon, thanks for shutting Rey up.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Better...?
:D

Much

KA4Texan
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
So thats what forward looks like.:cow:

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Case is like WTF, i want to make the team to Holliday, you fast little bastard

PapaL
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Can we now pencil in Trindon on the final roster?

Thorn
08-18-2012, 09:32 PM
Nice return by Holliday. So far tonight, my two biggest impressions have come from Lestar Jean and Holliday.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:33 PM
Nice return by Holliday. So far tonight, my two biggest impressions have come from Lestar Jean and Holliday.

Ditto.

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:34 PM
Much

To be honest, I thought he was signaling for a fair catch. But I guess his hand never got above his head.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:34 PM
To be honest, I thought he was signaling for a fair catch. But I guess his hand never got above his head.

he was waving his team mates off

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:34 PM
wasnt there another that was to potentially return punts / kicks as well?

SAMURAITEXAN
08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
Can we now pencil in Trindon on the final roster?

Oh yeah!

AnthonyE
08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
lookit that little mofo run!

Hilarious comment XD That guy can straight up fly.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
Nice return by Holliday. So far tonight, my two biggest impressions have come from Lestar Jean and Holliday.

I'd add schaub to that list.

I think he played pretty damn good and pretty much erased any lingering doubts about him being ready for the season.

He looks good to go.

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
Apparently if you don't return a touchdown every time its a failure.

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:35 PM
wasnt there another that was to potentially return punts / kicks as well?

D. Posey.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:36 PM
To be honest, I thought he was signaling for a fair catch. But I guess his hand never got above his head.

I didn't see it. :shrug:

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:36 PM
I'd add schaub to that list.

I think he played pretty damn good and pretty much erased any lingering doubts about him being ready for the season.

He looks good to go.

Yeah i think Schaub is looking better than i have seen him in years

CloakNNNdagger
08-18-2012, 09:36 PM
To be honest, I thought he was signaling for a fair catch. But I guess his hand never got above his head.

His hands were moving below the chest level.

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:37 PM
Guess it's time to see what Posey has then, I thought it was another though.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:38 PM
Brandon Harris looking pretty good tonight too

Playoffs
08-18-2012, 09:39 PM
That QB has a quick release .... Tolzien.

I really like the look of this kid.

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:40 PM
Hey HarButt... how's that "working the refs" thing doing so far...
:D

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:43 PM
Did everything he could on that one.

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Nice pass by case

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
damn that was a throw

ObsiWan
08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Well, it wouldn't be a Texans return squad without at least one block-in-the-back penalty before the night was over now would it...
:spin:

Pantherstang84
08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
Nice touch on that throw.

OzzO
08-18-2012, 09:44 PM
nice touch on that throw

SmoochyTX
08-18-2012, 09:45 PM
Sweet throw by Case.

SAMURAITEXAN
08-18-2012, 09:45 PM
Alright Case!

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:45 PM
now an over throw, how can u make such a hard throw and then miss and easy one.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:46 PM
Does A. Smith remind anyone else of Snoop Dog ?

Texn4life
08-18-2012, 09:46 PM
Hahahaha I love ANTONIO SMITH!!!!

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:47 PM
Trindon covering punts.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:48 PM
Cougars in the house..lol.

Playoffs
08-18-2012, 09:53 PM
Harbaugh out there on the field with his injured player .... I like that.

ArlingtonTexan
08-18-2012, 09:54 PM
Can we now pencil in Trindon on the final roster?

I would use a pen.

EllisUnit
08-18-2012, 09:55 PM
Roc is looking good out there

utahmark
08-18-2012, 09:56 PM
Harbaugh out there on the field with his injured player .... I like that.

He just wanted to get closer to the ref's so he could argue a point.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 09:58 PM
:texflag::texflag::texflag::texflag:

gtexan02
08-18-2012, 09:59 PM
Any word on what happened to Cushing? I had to turn it off

Rey
08-18-2012, 09:59 PM
Roc is looking good out there

Yep, him and Harris are looking like good picks.

If they keep 5 cb's I like j Jo, kjax, McCain, Harris and Carmichael.

If they go 6 I like mcmannis over ball.

Showtime100
08-18-2012, 10:00 PM
Any word on what happened to Cushing? I had to turn it off

He seems ok. I saw him on te sidelines congratulating somebody. I'm not worried, but I don't have the scoop either.

OzzO
08-18-2012, 10:03 PM
Any word on what happened to Cushing? I had to turn it off

someone noted cramps.

SmoochyTX
08-18-2012, 10:06 PM
Woot Texans! Great game by Schaub, Holliday, Martin, and Jean.

Texans - 20
49ers - 9

mocean
08-18-2012, 10:07 PM
Nice game fellas!

Thorn
08-18-2012, 10:10 PM
With Martin and Jean doing well, I'm less worried about the recievers than I was before the pre-season games began.

Really like watching Holliday do his stuff.

Didn't get to see Case Keenum as much as I'd like. Schaub looked good, TJ rather ordinary.

I think the defense played a bit better than they did last week.

BullNation4Life
08-18-2012, 10:11 PM
wasnt there another that was to potentially return punts / kicks as well?

They drafted K Martin with the idea of he might return punts and kickoffs....

at least that was the talk on draft day

OzzO
08-18-2012, 10:13 PM
That's who I was thinking of! Thanks. MSR

BullNation4Life
08-18-2012, 10:15 PM
Need to fix those gaping holes on the runs....

Got to the QB well again, I am liking what I see in Jamison and Dobbins. Harris might be a sleeper and help out while Cody is out.

Goldensilence
08-18-2012, 10:27 PM
I now feel a lot better about the WR situation after tonight's game.

Martin is going to be tough for opponents to deal with in the slot. Jean looks like he can develop into a #1 WR eventually if he keeps at it.

Did not see Posey, I was concerned a bout picking him when they did and still am.

Walter was non-existent.

Defense had trouble stopping run in first half, but picked up in the second. Harris looks like a sleeper in the middle, seemed to get good push.

Brandon Harris and Carmicheal looked solid, Harris made a few nice plays. Dobbins play surprised me today.

Hervoyel
08-18-2012, 11:08 PM
Holliday looks to me like JJ Moses with a supercharger installed.

Concerned about stopping the run. SF is tough running the ball but still

Speaking of Ball I'm so glad he isn't going to be on this team. We're not doing useless CB's anymore supposedly and he's a completely useless CB.

Kevin Walter doesn't need to hit the bench, he'll have his role on this team. It just won't be the one he's been trying to fill for the last few years. WR options are going to be awesome to see. Jean & Martin are both so much better than Jacoby Jones and I'd prefer the team not waste any of their attention or time on returns. Keep Holliday and let the other young WR's focus on becoming the best WR's they can be.

eriadoc
08-18-2012, 11:46 PM
Walter was non-existent.

FWIW, Walter had his man beat for a TD in the end zone, but Schaub threw it too high on what was I think his only real incompletion.

Cjeremy635
08-18-2012, 11:47 PM
I thought our receivers looked good. Schaub looked like he is 100%.

I have serious concerns about our O-line though. I don't think our 1st team ran well last week or this week. I know the 49ers have a stout D on the run, but we are supposed to be an elite run team. They won that battle, not us.

Also, we have got to do a better job at pass protection. I know it's just preseason, but I'm concerned. Again, my only knock on tonight was the O-line....and Graham whiffing on a block or 2.

Doppelganger
08-19-2012, 01:16 AM
Holliday looks to me like JJ Moses with a supercharger installed.

Concerned about stopping the run. SF is tough running the ball but still

Speaking of Ball I'm so glad he isn't going to be on this team. We're not doing useless CB's anymore supposedly and he's a completely useless CB.

Kevin Walter doesn't need to hit the bench, he'll have his role on this team. It just won't be the one he's been trying to fill for the last few years. WR options are going to be awesome to see. Jean & Martin are both so much better than Jacoby Jones and I'd prefer the team not waste any of their attention or time on returns. Keep Holliday and let the other young WR's focus on becoming the best WR's they can be.

Watt and Cody were not in there. I wonder how much they would have affected the run?

Rey
08-19-2012, 01:25 AM
Watt and Cody were not in there. I wonder how much they would have affected the run?

The LT and RG for the 9ers were dominant in the run game.

Watt and Cody would have helped though I think.

Allstar
08-19-2012, 01:27 AM
Brandon Jacobs posted this on Twitter:

Brandon Jacobs ‏@gatorboy45

Big ups to Kareem Jackson from the Texans he is a classy guy, he came to the the X-ray room to wish me a speedy recovery.

Lurvinator11
08-19-2012, 01:58 AM
Was at the game tonight.

I liked Holliday, and Jean. The Offense moved well. Yes that includes the O-line. I did not expect the run game to do much, because the 9ers have probably the best run defense in the NFL. The protection was good except for a couple of hiccups. I feel by midseason, our O-line will be solid. Barring any injuries of course. Holliday seems to be coming into his own. Glover dropped an easy INT. That was upsetting. Jean, who I have been high on forever, has some good playmaking abilities. And Martin is doing great too. I am dissapointed with Posey so far. He should be getting more looks. I only saw him on the third string offense.

I am not worried about our wide reciever core anymore. Jean and Martin will make for outstanding talent. Defense was good as well. Overall good performance and holding the 49ers to only 9 points. Very good indeed.

FosterGreatness
08-19-2012, 02:17 AM
Dobbins play surprised me today.

I think Dobbins is underrated due to how powerful our LB corps is. I've always respected his game and I think he's a very good addition to our depth at that position.

JCTexan
08-19-2012, 02:20 AM
Was at the game tonight.

I liked Holliday, and Jean. The Offense moved well. Yes that includes the O-line. I did not expect the run game to do much, because the 9ers have probably the best run defense in the NFL. The protection was good except for a couple of hiccups. I feel by midseason, our O-line will be solid. Barring any injuries of course. Holliday seems to be coming into his own. Glover dropped an easy INT. That was upsetting. Jean, who I have been high on forever, has some good playmaking abilities. And Martin is doing great too. I am dissapointed with Posey so far. He should be getting more looks. I only saw him on the third string offense.

I am not worried about our wide reciever core anymore. Jean and Martin will make for outstanding talent. Defense was good as well. Overall good performance and holding the 49ers to only 9 points. Very good indeed.

It's hard for me to be critical of a player who hasn't really seen the field so far. Being on the 3rd string offense just indicates he has been outplayed by Martin/Jean, which seems quite evident right now. Was Posey even targeted once against the 49ers?

FosterGreatness
08-19-2012, 02:21 AM
Defense had trouble stopping run in first half, but picked up in the second.

Yeah I agree with this. Outside of the two draws were they gained some massive yardage, I don't think our defense did that bad against the run. We were missing some key components (Watt, Cody) as a couple of other people have mentioned, that's a pretty big factor in my mind.

Allstar
08-19-2012, 02:27 AM
It's hard for me to be critical of a player who hasn't really seen the field so far. Being on the 3rd string offense just indicates he has been outplayed by Martin/Jean, which seems quite evident right now. Was Posey even targeted once against the 49ers?

I believe Keenum missed him on roll out.

Rey
08-19-2012, 08:27 AM
I think Dobbins is underrated due to how powerful our LB corps is. I've always respected his game and I think he's a very good addition to our depth at that position.

I'm very tempted to say dobbins should be the starter next to Cushing.

Bradie did some good things though, but he also has some bad moments.

Playoffs
08-19-2012, 08:51 AM
Brandon Jacobs posted this on Twitter:

Brandon Jacobs ‏@gatorboy45

Big ups to Kareem Jackson from the Texans he is a classy guy, he came to the the X-ray room to wish me a speedy recovery.

Showing some class, KJ. :thumbup:

GP
08-19-2012, 08:57 AM
My notes:

Graham should win the Kicker job. But it's on Kubiak to see that, which means he'll end up making an emotional decision (Saving the rookie Aggie and cutting the veteran). If he keeps Graham, it'll be the right call. It's easy to see which guy has the steeled nerves out there.

Holliday makes the team this year. And he's earned it, too.

I'd like to see AJ and KW sit the rest of the way...so we can see more Posey. It'll be the only real way for us to see what he can do. Coming into the game at the 4th qtr with fellow 3rd stringers is not the way to see Posey get a chance to show something. It's looking like he'll be PS'd....nobody will claim him; there's nothing he's done out there for a team to want to claim him.

Dobbins by all rights should be a starter next to Cushing, but...that means the shot caller Bradie James is put on the bench. Ain't happening.

Forsett, Grimes. Grimes, Forsett. Hmmm....Well, I won't get bent if Forsett wins RB3. I think long term it's Grimes who has the bigger future. If Kubiak & Co. want Forsett, so be it. In the grand scheme of things, it's merely a situational RB type of deal like what we had with Ward anyways. Hopefully Forsett/Grimes isn't needed.

JJ Watt is more important to the D than any of us realized, and we all knew he was a big deal to begin with! Turns out that he's sort of The Man in that front line, and him being back on week 1 is going to be huge for the D.

Kareem Jackson killed a guy. Well, sort of.

kingh99
08-19-2012, 09:06 AM
I thought our receivers looked good. Schaub looked like he is 100%.

I have serious concerns about our O-line though. I don't think our 1st team ran well last week or this week. I know the 49ers have a stout D on the run, but we are supposed to be an elite run team. They won that battle, not us.

Also, we have got to do a better job at pass protection. I know it's just preseason, but I'm concerned. Again, my only knock on tonight was the O-line....and Graham whiffing on a block or 2.

The O-line didn't run block very well but then again the 49's have the top run defense in the league. Watching a feed from SF, what stuck with me was listening to their broadcasters say Schaub wasn't pressured all night. The same can't be said for the 49's QB.

Rey
08-19-2012, 09:12 AM
The O-line didn't run block very well but then again the 49's have the top run defense in the league. Watching a feed from SF, what stuck with me was listening to their broadcasters say Schaub wasn't pressured all night. The same can't be said for the 49's QB.

I don't know what game they were watching because I can vividly recall at least one time schaub was pressured and hit as he threw.

kingh99
08-19-2012, 09:16 AM
I don't know what game they were watching because I can vividly recall at least one time schaub was pressured and hit as he threw.

His jersey was not the least bit dirty. That one play would have been a late hit if the defender put anything on it.

kingh99
08-19-2012, 09:21 AM
The other team's QB's have been getting dog piled the first two games. They have been forced to work in a very dirty pocket. Pressure has been relentless Schaub was roughed up once on that blitz in game one. The run blocking for the Texans has been substandard compared to last year.

Texans handled one average team with a potentially great QB who kicked their ass last season and a second great team with an average QB. I don't think they have trailed a minute this preseason.

Lucky
08-19-2012, 09:28 AM
I don't think they have trailed a minute this preseason.
The Texans were down by 3 for about 5 minutes in the 2nd quarter, last night.

Izzo01
08-19-2012, 09:31 AM
Anybody know where to find a replay online at I missed it yesterday don't have nfl network anymore either.

Lucky
08-19-2012, 09:32 AM
JJ Watt is more important to the D than any of us realized, and we all knew he was a big deal to begin with! Turns out that he's sort of The Man in that front line, and him being back on week 1 is going to be huge for the D.
Watt is important, and many of "us" realized that. The surprise might be missing Cody. Much of the Niners damage running was right at the nose. I'm going to watch the replay today, but I think I'll see Mitchell getting manhandled early on.

gary
08-19-2012, 09:39 AM
I do not think Case played long enough to judge him.

hookinreds
08-19-2012, 09:52 AM
Watt is important, and many of "us" realized that. The surprise might be missing Cody. Much of the Niners damage running was right at the nose. I'm going to watch the replay today, but I think I'll see Mitchell getting manhandled early on.. I agree, we looked awful against the run last night. I'm going back and look closely at how we gave up those yards.

Corrosion
08-19-2012, 09:54 AM
Matt Schaub throws a TD pass to Lestar Jean .... Kubiak chews him a new one. Priceless. :specnatz:

cuppacoffee
08-19-2012, 10:51 AM
I'm very tempted to say dobbins should be the starter next to Cushing.

Bradie did some good things though, but he also has some bad moments.


I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one thinking this.

I am not a proven talent evaluator but James has not been too much of a factor from what little I have noticed.

Is James worth the price we must pay to keep him?

:coffee:

cuppacoffee
08-19-2012, 11:02 AM
Matt Schaub throws a TD pass to Lestar Jean .... Kubiak chews him a new one. Priceless. :specnatz:


Must have been for the fist pump demonstration. :thinking:

Or maybe Schaub exposed the uber-secret red zone play we were saving for the regular season. :hankpalm:


:coffee:

Bulls on Parade
08-19-2012, 11:04 AM
Why is it so hard to find a YouTube video of Schaub's TD pass to Lestar Jean inside the red zone? With the Texans' struggles inside the red zone for practically the past few years it was certainly nice to see, preseason or not. I wanted to see it again but I guess I'll have to wait until the NFL Network re-airs the game.

Lucky
08-19-2012, 11:08 AM
Why is it so hard to find a YouTube video of Schaub's TD pass to Lestar Jean inside the red zone? With the Texans' struggles inside the red zone for practically the past few years it was certainly nice to see, preseason or not. I wanted to see it again but I guess I'll have to wait until the NFL Network re-airs the game.
The TD pass is on NFL.com (http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012081853/2012/PRE2/49ers@texans).

Lucky
08-19-2012, 11:11 AM
Is James worth the price we must pay to keep him?

:coffee:
James is making $890K with $250K guaranteed. Not really a question of money.

drs23
08-19-2012, 11:14 AM
Matt Schaub throws a TD pass to Lestar Jean .... Kubiak chews him a new one. Priceless. :specnatz:


Yeah, I saw that. Don't know what the origin of Kubiak's ire but he sure let Matt have it on the sideline after that TD. Schaub looked at him like "WTF? OK, whatever" then shot Kubiak a glance as the walked off.

I wonder what he did wrong too.

infantrycak
08-19-2012, 11:21 AM
Yeah, I saw that. Don't know what the origin of Kubiak's ire but he sure let Matt have it on the sideline after that TD. Schaub looked at him like "WTF? OK, whatever" then shot Kubiak a glance as the walked off.

I wonder what he did wrong too.

Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

drs23
08-19-2012, 11:26 AM
Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

OK, missed that. I'll look for it, I'm about to watch it again.

GuerillaBlack
08-19-2012, 11:36 AM
Why is it so hard to find a YouTube video of Schaub's TD pass to Lestar Jean inside the red zone? With the Texans' struggles inside the red zone for practically the past few years it was certainly nice to see, preseason or not. I wanted to see it again but I guess I'll have to wait until the NFL Network re-airs the game.

Who would put that on YouTube and so fast at that? Lol. Check NFL.com or ESPN highlights.

Playoffs
08-19-2012, 11:36 AM
Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

KeyMart was open downfield earlier in the game, as well. Matt's going to have to get used to taking the extra count & looking his way.

CloakNNNdagger
08-19-2012, 11:41 AM
OK, missed that. I'll look for it, I'm about to watch it again.

The broadcast only focused on the left side of the EZ,,,,,,,,none of the middle or right side............that's why we, who were not at the game would not have seen it.

drs23
08-19-2012, 11:47 AM
The broadcast only focused on the left side of the EZ,,,,,,,,none of the middle or right side............that's why we, who were not at the game would not have seen it.

Thanks, I feel better now. :)

cuppacoffee
08-19-2012, 11:51 AM
James is making $890K with $250K guaranteed. Not really a question of money.


Thanks Lucky

I thought veteran pickups were guaranteed more money than that.

I leave it up to Dutch to safeguard ''our money'' and admit I don't sweat the cash as long as he is on the job. :D



I gotta ask because I don't keep up with all the goings on.

Where is OD hiding?


:coffee:

Honoring Earl 34
08-19-2012, 11:58 AM
Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

Yep ... Martin brushed a defender and cut right and was so open Schaub could have tossed a beach ball to him . In the picture below , the TE takes the LB with him and all that room left of the goal post is where Martin was running .

http://www.texansbullpen.com/12photogallery/Preseason/2012-08-18-49ers-Texans/2ndQuarter/DSC_0734.JPG

kingh99
08-19-2012, 12:00 PM
Arian Foster can still be electric Arian as he showed on his break away play. He is our big play threat. Trudge and slog through small gain plays and then BOOM, he's gone. The plays that cat made last year were epic, brilliant, inspired awesome plays.

I watched him walk by when the onfield interview was happening with one of the Niner RB's and he just hulked past them. His is a big strong hoss. Just hope he's handling his multi-millionaire twentysomething lifestyle change. Imagine being in your twenties and having millions in the bank.

infantrycak
08-19-2012, 12:09 PM
OK, missed that. I'll look for it, I'm about to watch it again.

If you can find a good view, Kevin Walter comes left to right in the endzone and drags two guys with him (I know Walter never gets double covered but he had two dogs on his trail) Then there are two DB's to the left who stick seeing Jean coming. Martin runs up and breaks right into a void.

76Texan
08-19-2012, 01:15 PM
Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

No, CB#26 Brock was right behind him (Martin) all the way until he saw Jean caught the ball.

Brock then left Martin to try to tackle Jean.

This play was made possible by the fact that Walter drew triple coverage on a post route. The LB #54 Grant and the two safeties boxed Walter in, forming a triangle around him.

I have a different version of the game that showed the middle of the end zone clearly.

76Texan
08-19-2012, 01:20 PM
Actually, the regular broadcast has an end zone view after the PAT that shows everything very clearly.

infantrycak
08-19-2012, 01:37 PM
No, CB#26 Brock was right behind him (Martin) all the way until he saw Jean caught the ball.

Martin has good separation and is headed away from Brock. There was a clear opportunity there. Just toss the ball out front of Martin and Brock has no play.

Playoffs
08-19-2012, 03:25 PM
https://p.twimg.com/A0r_Vp_CIAA_vN7.jpg

Corrosion
08-19-2012, 03:31 PM
Martin was wide open and in the endzone.

Thats what I thought but it was difficult to see from the TV angles shown. Looked to me as if Martin was the first option and Schaub flat out missed him.
Gotta give the OL extra credit on that slow developing play.

ckhouston
08-19-2012, 03:33 PM
Matt and TJ both made mental mistakes.

Keenum threw that sweet touch pass and showed some skills. He will be our #3.

Arian and Andre are ready for the season.

Holiday won a spot on the team. Kid has wheels.

Casey is going to be a great asset this year, as are Jean and Martin.

I think the only starter position still in dispute is kicker, and because they used a pick on him and he has showed some skill Bullock should win it.

Brandon420tx
08-19-2012, 04:50 PM
I'd say RT is still in dispute.

Brandon Brooks doesn't quite look ready to take over at RG to me.

Corrosion
08-19-2012, 05:19 PM
I'd say RT is still in dispute.

Brandon Brooks doesn't quite look ready to take over at RG to me.

I agree on both statements - two holding penalties on Brooks didnt help his case any.

Lucky
08-19-2012, 07:40 PM
Matt and TJ both made mental mistakes.
What were these "mental mistakes"?

PapaL
08-19-2012, 07:50 PM
Does anyone else notice Schaub hopping around when he scrambles or throws the ball?

I hope he's mentally and physically healed.

Corrosion
08-19-2012, 08:01 PM
What were these "mental mistakes"?

Matt missed a read .... on a play that resulted in a TD. We're nitpicking here but so was Gary after the play.

TJ missed a pre-snap read on a blitz that resulted in a sack .... could also blame it on Tate as he was responsible for the blitzer tho he came from the opposite side free and clean.

rmartin65
08-19-2012, 08:21 PM
What were these "mental mistakes"?

They did not attend UH.

eriadoc
08-19-2012, 09:30 PM
Brandon Brooks doesn't quite look ready to take over at RG to me.

Unfortunately, neither does Caldwell, though he does look better than Brooks.

Pantherstang84
08-19-2012, 10:17 PM
They did not attend UH.

or Rice.

jdjd
08-19-2012, 10:21 PM
Caldwell didn't look bad to me. I actually watched him on several plays, as far as pass protection the entire line looked pretty good, with the only mistake I saw actually coming from Brown our best lineman. I believe JJ and Cody will have a little something to do with fixing this when the regular season start. I also believe Jean and Marting will end up with more playing time in regular season games than Walters, even though I'm sure Walters will start every game he's healthy. Just my two cents.

jdjd
08-19-2012, 10:23 PM
Caldwell didn't look bad to me. I actually watched him on several plays, as far as pass protection the entire line looked pretty good, with the only mistake I saw actually coming from Brown our best lineman. I believe JJ and Cody will have a little something to do with fixing this when the regular season start. I also believe Jean and Marting will end up with more playing time in regular season games than Walters, even though I'm sure Walters will start every game he's healthy. Just my two cents.

I meant to say and the run defense needs to get better.

76Texan
08-19-2012, 10:52 PM
Martin has good separation and is headed away from Brock. There was a clear opportunity there. Just toss the ball out front of Martin and Brock has no play.

1000 % negative.
Don't you have the end zone view?

When I feel up to it (could be a couple of days) I can post the screen shots.
Or maybe Dutch (or somebody) can make a vid in slow motion.

When Schaub released the ball, the CB was still in front of KMart.
If Schaub attempted to throw the ball to KMart, Brock would have been in position to even go for an INT attempt.

There was ZERO chance that Schaub can risk such a pass while Jean was wide-open right in front of his nose.

Allstar
08-19-2012, 11:01 PM
Anyone notice Schaub about to go deep to AJ on the play that OD got called for the late false start?

76Texan
08-19-2012, 11:12 PM
Anyone notice Schaub about to go deep to AJ on the play that OD got called for the late false start?

Yeah, the single deep safety had to make a choice either to help on AJ or OD.

In the meantime, Walter was bracketed (double-covered) by a CB and a LB.

Dutchrudder
08-19-2012, 11:54 PM
1000 % negative.
Don't you have the end zone view?

When I feel up to it (could be a couple of days) I can post the screen shots.
Or maybe Dutch (or somebody) can make a vid in slow motion.

When Schaub released the ball, the CB was still in front of KMart.
If Schaub attempted to throw the ball to KMart, Brock would have been in position to even go for an INT attempt.

There was ZERO chance that Schaub can risk such a pass while Jean was wide-open right in front of his nose.

I can help you out if you have requests for animations. I think it's a lot easier to see what's going on versus the screenshots. Let me know the quarter, time and down and I can do it in about 5-10 minutes. I only have the game videos though, not the All 22 subscription.

76Texan
08-19-2012, 11:59 PM
I can help you out if you have requests for animations. I think it's a lot easier to see what's going on versus the screenshots. Let me know the quarter, time and down and I can do it in about 5-10 minutes. I only have the game videos though, not the All 22 subscription.
That will be great.

54 seconds until half time.

The end-zone view is shown after the PAT in the regular broadcast version in Houston.

If you have the shortcut version from TYT, it also has an expanded side view (almost like a wide-screen format) that shows both the left side and the middle of the end zone. (I think this one is from the SF feed.)

The screen shots have their merrits.
When you freeze the frames, you can see the CB covering Martin looking at Schaub the whole time, and that he stayed ahead and in the path of Martin.

He never left Martin until Schaub released the ball.

infantrycak
08-20-2012, 12:38 AM
1000 % negative.
Don't you have the end zone view?

First off yeah I have an end zone view.

And you are right you are 1000% wrong. Brock was yards away from being in position to make a play.

By the way, when a ball leaves a QB's hand isn't the same as when a QB could or should have had the ball leave his hand.

But please provide us with your explanation of what Kubiak was chewing Schaub's ass about. Maybe it was failing to attempt a keeper.

76Texan
08-20-2012, 01:16 AM
First off yeah I have an end zone view.

And you are right you are 1000% wrong. Brock was yards away from being in position to make a play.

By the way, when a ball leaves a QB's hand isn't the same as when a QB could or should have had the ball leave his hand.

But please provide us with your explanation of what Kubiak was chewing Schaub's ass about. Maybe it was failing to attempt a keeper.

You should know by now that I'm not into guessing what's on people's mind.

I have no idea what that conversation was all about.

Anything anybody says is just a guess; and there's no truth in a guess.

...

So where was KMart (at what yard line) when Schaub should have thrown that ball, in your opinion?

76Texan
08-20-2012, 02:08 AM
First off yeah I have an end zone view.

And you are right you are 1000% wrong. Brock was yards away from being in position to make a play.

By the way, when a ball leaves a QB's hand isn't the same as when a QB could or should have had the ball leave his hand.

But please provide us with your explanation of what Kubiak was chewing Schaub's ass about. Maybe it was failing to attempt a keeper.

The Dutch made a vid in this thread at post #91

http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1998020#post1998020

rmartin65
08-20-2012, 06:37 AM
Delano Johnson (#64 I think) deserves some praise. He looked pretty good in limited playing time. I dont think he makes the roster, but the 6'4" 280 lbs OLB has some interesting tools to work with. I see him making the PS.

Lucky
08-20-2012, 06:56 AM
TJ missed a pre-snap read on a blitz that resulted in a sack .... could also blame it on Tate as he was responsible for the blitzer tho he came from the opposite side free and clean.
I blamed it on Tate, who was blocking air. I don't want to get involved in the misread on the TD...but I don't see it. It's the same play they ran in Cincy to win the division. If Kubiak was on Schaub for anything, it was probably that he waited too long to release the pass to Jean (who was led into another defender).

Thorn
08-20-2012, 07:18 AM
or Rice.

and beans

Corrosion
08-20-2012, 09:18 AM
I blamed it on Tate, who was blocking air. I don't want to get involved in the misread on the TD...but I don't see it. It's the same play they ran in Cincy to win the division. If Kubiak was on Schaub for anything, it was probably that he waited too long to release the pass to Jean (who was led into another defender).

After rewatching that play .... I have no clue what Gary was chewin his ass about. I think Schaub let it fly at the right time waiting for Jean to come away from the Lber underneath #56.

The two guy's who ended up attempting the tackle were responsible for OD and Martin .... everyone else was on either Walter or Foster five defenders betwixt them.

Thanks Dutch for that frame by frame replay. Now get 22 !

Rey
08-20-2012, 09:27 AM
Delano Johnson (#64 I think) deserves some praise. He looked pretty good in limited playing time. I dont think he makes the roster, but the 6'4" 280 lbs OLB has some interesting tools to work with. I see him making the PS.

I'm glad you mentioned that. He showed up quite a bit out there on the field. I kept trying to figure out who it was.

rmartin65
08-20-2012, 09:30 AM
I'm glad you mentioned that. He showed up quite a bit out there on the field. I kept trying to figure out who it was.

He reminds me of Watt a bit, always getting his hands into the air at the LOS. Again, definitely a long shot for the team, but I think he makes the PS. Just too many raw tools to work with to not make it for a year.