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CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 12:30 AM
Dez Bryant arrested on family violence charge (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/16/dez-bryant-arrested-on-family-violence-charge/)
July 16, 2012, 8:03 PM EDT


Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant was arrested on Monday in the Dallas suburb of DeSoto, Texas.

Fox 4 in Dallas reports that Bryant faces a Class A family violence charge and has already bonded out of jail. No further information is available about what transpired leading to Bryant’s arrest.

Bryant confirmed to WFAA in Dallas that there had been an incident, but he would not go into any details about what the incident was.

“I’m good, I’m good,” Bryant told the TV station.

Bryant is a very talented young receiver who has had some off-field red flags in the past, but none of those past red flags — ranging from NCAA eligibility issues to financial problems — had included an arrest. Cowboys owner Jerry Jones, who has been one of Bryant’s strongest supporters, will surely be extremely disappointed by this development.

Bryant boasted recently that he’s in phenomenal shape and quicker, stronger and faster than last year. But this is just the latest incident to raise questions about whether a failure to keep his head on straight off the field will prevent him from realizing his potential on the field.

Texn4life
07-17-2012, 01:18 AM
Dez is an idiot. Anyone who gets themselves in debt like he did before he signed his contract isn't focused on the right things. The guy is full of talent though and its sad to see. At this point its clear that he doesn't care to get his life together. He abused Revis last year when they played each other. He could be a top 5 receiver in this league IMO.

GP
07-17-2012, 01:22 AM
Jerry Jones just cannot help himself. From T.O. to PacMan to Dez...Jerry is addicted to flammable players.

Dallas fans deserve better than that. Jerry needs to reevaluate what he values most in his players. He needs to attend a clinic by McNair. Man I wish we could play them now...our defense would obliterate them.

StarStruck
07-17-2012, 01:25 AM
Jerry Jones just cannot help himself. From T.O. to PacMan to Dez...Jerry is addicted to flammable players.

Dallas fans deserve better than that. Jerry needs to reevaluate what he values most in his players. He needs to attend a clinic by McNair. Man I wish we could play them now...our defense would obliterate them.

Texans were the best of the two last time, and see how that ended. The only obliteration was to the unsuspecting Cowboy fans.

Showtime100
07-17-2012, 01:30 AM
Bryant boasted recently that he’s in phenomenal shape and quicker, stronger and faster than last year.

However, his girlfriend says his left hook is about the same as last year. :specnatz:

StarStruck
07-17-2012, 01:36 AM
However, his girlfriend says his left hook is about the same as last year. :specnatz:

Wow! Was it girlfriend issues or baby mama drama? Either way, the guy has to exhibit the self control to walk away from confrontations. Walk away, Dez, walk away.

Showtime100
07-17-2012, 01:46 AM
Wow! Was it girlfriend issues or baby mama drama? Either way, the guy has to exhibit the self control to walk away from confrontations.

To be honest I don't know. One article (ESPN) said he pushed his mother after arguing with his half-brother, another said girlfriend.

If it was his mother he hit (or pushed) I would think she would have whooped his ass on to Injured Reserve...lol.

HoustonFrog
07-17-2012, 08:39 AM
From what I've read it just said "family" dispute so I'm not sure what female was involved. However, the kid needs to grow up. What is sad here is that I've been reading on other boards if he will be ready to play or how this will all be forgotten if he plays well. People should concentrate on "is the female in this case alright?" That is the issue here. Misdemeanor or not, violence against women is not cool. He has all the talent in the world but a 2 cent brain. No excuses for that. I don't care if you are 23 or 43, if someone gives you millions of dollars, make it your business to act right. Before getting too extreme I'll let the facts come out and see what this was all about.

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 08:42 AM
Bryant's improvement on the field and a renewed focus on conditioning and film study led Cowboys owner Jerry Jones to praise the receiver's maturation.

"He certainly is different as far as his maturity and as far as his understanding of what it takes to play in the National Football League than when he got here," Jones said last month.

There was no word on what Jones thought about Bryant's maturity after Saturday's arrest.link (http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/804907&usatref=sportsmod?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports |p)

Psychoanalysis has never been Jerruh's strong suit.

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 09:04 AM
Advice is given to NFL rookies to separate from their old "in the hood" friends. It's unfortunate to say, as difficult as it may be to do, consideration should possibly be made to extend that advise to a grossly dysfunctional and grossly negatively-impacting family situation.

Dez Bryant’s arrest came after pushing his mother (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryants-arrest-came-after-pushing-his-mother/)

July 17, 2012, 7:01 AM EDT

Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant pushed his mother on Saturday in an incident that wound up with Bryant arrested for misdemeanor family violence.

A source told ESPNDallas.com that Bryant and his half brother had been in an argument before Bryant ended up pushing his mother. Police were called at that time, although the police didn’t arrest Bryant until Monday. Bryant’s mother did not need to be taken to the hospital for injuries.

Bryant’s mother, Angela Bryant, has had a number of run-ins with the law, including spending 18 months in prison during Dez’s childhood for selling crack cocaine. Dolphins General Manager Jeff Ireland caused a stir at the 2010 NFL Scouting Combine for asking Bryant if his mother was a prostitute.

Although Bryant has never been arrested before, he has had other incidents with police, including being detained early this year after an alleged altercation at a nightclub in Miami, and having off-duty police working security at a Dallas-area mall telling him he was banned from the premises. The family violence arrest could lead to Bryant facing discipline from the league office.

Playoffs
07-17-2012, 11:20 AM
Dez Bryant’s arrest came after pushing his mother (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryants-arrest-came-after-pushing-his-mother/)

So Dez pushes his Mother down and comes out with, "I'm good, I'm good." :specnatz:

IDEXAN
07-17-2012, 11:50 AM
This guy actually beat-up his own Mother ? That's gotta be some kind of new low in behavior by an NFL player.

Hervoyel
07-17-2012, 11:57 AM
For as long as I've known of his existence I've thought this guy was a turd. He's done nothing to change that perception and it's starting to look like he never will.

StarStruck
07-17-2012, 12:34 PM
The article said that he pushed his mother, not pushed her down nor beat her up. My question is what type of push was it. If in a confrontation with her, absolutely no way should he ever touch her in that manner. On the otherhand if he and his half brother were going at it and she jumped in the middle to get them to stop, he could have reacted in an effort to keep her safe.

I attended a wedding a couple of years ago where the bride had a large number of family members in attendance who were from Lufkin. Naturally, in general conversation at the reception I asked about Dez. The one closest to his age said that he was very talented and should do well if he stayed away from the environment that he grew up around. She didn't elaborate, and I didn't pry yet gathered by the way that she answered he had a lot to overcome. It now seems that his problems could be much deeper than the homies. Instead of saying walk away Dez, perhaps it should be stay away if the half brother is going to be a conflict. He has a heck of a lot more to lose that the brother.

HOU-TEX
07-17-2012, 12:35 PM
link (http://www.freep.com/usatoday/article/804907&usatref=sportsmod?odyssey=mod|newswell|text|Sports |p)

Psychoanalysis has never been Jerruh's strong suit.

Or any type of analysis for that matter

HoustonFrog
07-17-2012, 12:43 PM
The article said that he pushed his mother, not pushed her down nor beat her up. My question is what type of push was it. If in a confrontation with her, absolutely no way should he ever touch her in that manner. On the otherhand if he and his half brother were going at it and she jumped in the middle to get them to stop, he could have reacted in an effort to keep her safe.

I attended a wedding a couple of years ago where the bride had a large number of family members in attendance who were from Lufkin. Naturally, in general conversation at the reception I asked about Dez. The one closest to his age said that he was very talented and should do well if he stayed away from the environment that he grew up around. She didn't elaborate, and I didn't pry yet gathered by the way that she answered he had a lot to overcome. It now seems that his problems could be much deeper than the homies. Instead of saying walk away Dez, perhaps it should be stay away if the half brother is going to be a conflict. He has a heck of a lot more to lose that the brother.

They are now saying he hit her with a baseball cap and ripped her bra. But it seems like he hit her. Rule #1 of being a man..never hit a woman...especially Mom. Idiot. In his position and she is begging him to leave...leave.

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryant-police-report-911-mother-bra/

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant allegedly hit his mother in the face with his baseball cap ... and grabbed her by the shirt so hard that he ripped her bra ... this according to arrest documents obtained by TMZ.

The docs say ... cops were dispatched to Bryant's mother's home in DeSoto, Texas on July 14 at 1:47 PM after receiving a 911 call reporting an assault -- family violence.

Once cops arrived to the scene, Dez's mom Angela told cops she had gotten into an argument with Dez and demanded that he leave the home ... and that's when Dez got physical.

On the 911 call, Angela says, "My son has assaulted me. He's here now. he won't go home. I keep telling him to go, he won't go." You can clearly hear an argument in the background as Angela says, "I can't let him keep doing me like this. I'm gonna put an end to it today."

According to the documents, cops returned to Angela's home 2 days later and she complained of pain in her wrists, hands and arms .. and said her chest was sore from Dez pushing her.

Cops say they observed bruising in her upper arm. The docs list Dez Bryant as being 6'1", 198 pounds.

Bryant turned himself into police yesterday, and was booked for assault -- family violence, a Class A misdemeanor.

ChampionTexan
07-17-2012, 12:47 PM
The article said that he pushed his mother, not pushed her down nor beat her up. My question is what type of push was it. If in a confrontation with her, absolutely no way should he ever touch her in that manner. On the otherhand if he and his half brother were going at it and she jumped in the middle to get them to stop, he could have reacted in an effort to keep her safe.

I attended a wedding a couple of years ago where the bride had a large number of family members in attendance who were from Lufkin. Naturally, in general conversation at the reception I asked about Dez. The one closest to his age said that he was very talented and should do well if he stayed away from the environment that he grew up around. She didn't elaborate, and I didn't pry yet gathered by the way that she answered he had a lot to overcome. It now seems that his problems could be much deeper than the homies. Instead of saying walk away Dez, perhaps it should be stay away if the half brother is going to be a conflict. He has a heck of a lot more to lose that the brother.

More - slightly differing - specifics.

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant assaulted his mother during an argument in DeSoto Saturday, allegedly slapping her face and pulling her hair, DeSoto police revealed to reporters Tuesday.

LINK (http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/16/4103558/bryant-arrested-on-domestic-violence.html)

HOU-TEX
07-17-2012, 12:52 PM
IMO, there's got to be a reason why he went at her like that. He's surely a smuck, but going after your own mother is off the charts.

There's been rumors about his mom for a long time. What if they are true and he's making an attempt to get her right and she's refusing? Just a thought, that's all

Don't get me wrong. I think the dude's a moron. I just think there has to be more behind the story. Most men will protect their mothers, no matter what

HoustonFrog
07-17-2012, 01:20 PM
IMO, there's got to be a reason why he went at her like that. He's surely a smuck, but going after your own mother is off the charts.

There's been rumors about his mom for a long time. What if they are true and he's making an attempt to get her right and she's refusing? Just a thought, that's all

Don't get me wrong. I think the dude's a moron. I just think there has to be more behind the story. Most men will protect their mothers, no matter what

I see where you are coming from....we don't know a thing about his screwed up family dynamics and she may be a person that is constantly battling something where it wears him down. BUT, as stated above by all of us, you just can't strike a woman. He just needed to figure out how to walk away. I am seeing some other quotes though that scare me a little more...that this might be a first time:

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8173444/dez-bryant-dallas-cowboys-allegedly-assaulted-mom-police-say

I can't keep letting him do this," said Angela Bryant, who made the call from the nearby home of family friend and adviser David Wells. "I can't keep letting him do me like this. I'm tired. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm going to put an end to it today. I'm tired."

The tricky part is no man should assault a woman..especially their Mom...put their relationship seems so strange it is hard to gather what might be vindictiveness and what might be the straight story.

StarStruck
07-17-2012, 01:30 PM
If the TMZ account is correct, there is no way Dez should have behaved in that manner. It's one thing to move her out of the way of a confrontation between two adults, which I don't see anything about the half brother in the latest account, but aggression, in that manner can ever be justified.

HoustonFrog
07-17-2012, 01:33 PM
If the TMZ account is correct, there is no way Dez should have behaved in that manner. It's one thing to move her out of the way of a confrontation between two adults, which I don't see anything about the half brother in the latest account, but aggression, in that manner can ever be justified.

I'm seeing that account more and more too Star...at least according to the Mom's 911 call. According to the Star-Telegram see mentioned he wanted to kill her

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/16/4103558/bryant-arrested-on-domestic-violence.html

In an emotional 911 call, the mother of Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant can be heard telling friends that her son “tried to kill me” and that she’s going to “put an end to it today.”

StarStruck
07-17-2012, 01:38 PM
I'm 99.9 percent sure that house was purchased by Dez, and he could feel entitled to be there whenever he chooses. Wrong! If he mother is still dealing with issues of her earlier life, he can't fix it, so it is best for everyone involved is for him to turn over the deed if he hasn't already and love her from a distance. If that is the case, perhaps at some point she will get the help needed, and the same goes for Dez to get the help needed to move forward. Family violence will not solve anything.

GP
07-17-2012, 01:56 PM
This just sounds like years and years of anger, by all parties involved, has boiled over to the point that a son hit his mother.

Past issues, coupled with fresh wounds (inflicted by more than just one or the other person, I'm sure), and this is what happens.

Who knows what the entirety of the complexion of this issue is. I'm just generally saddened when I see adult men who react wrongly and you look back at their childhood and you see such utter dysfunctional behavior by a mom or dad that has contributed their child's own eventual adult dysfunctional behavior.

I know, I know...it doesn't excuse a guy like Dez Bryant's behavior. I get that. I'm just saying the entirety of the ugliness can be a very heavy thing if you think about the persistent nature of the problems they've had as a family.

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 02:30 PM
More - slightly differing - specifics.


LINK (http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/07/16/4103558/bryant-arrested-on-domestic-violence.html)

Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant assaulted his mother during an argument in DeSoto Saturday, allegedly slapping her face and pulling her hair, DeSoto police revealed to reporters Tuesday.

Ripping shirts, tearing bras, slapping faces, pulling hair. Sounds like a cat fight. Dez sounds like he fights like a girl.

This whole situation, whatever the circumstances, seems like a very sad culmination of an extreme family dysfunctionality that didn't start yesterday, nor is likely to end tomorrow.

Texn4life
07-17-2012, 02:37 PM
This just sounds like years and years of anger, by all parties involved, has boiled over to the point that a son hit his mother.

Past issues, coupled with fresh wounds (inflicted by more than just one or the other person, I'm sure), and this is what happens.

Who knows what the entirety of the complexion of this issue is. I'm just generally saddened when I see adult men who react wrongly and you look back at their childhood and you see such utter dysfunctional behavior by a mom or dad that has contributed their child's own eventual adult dysfunctional behavior.

I know, I know...it doesn't excuse a guy like Dez Bryant's behavior. I get that. I'm just saying the entirety of the ugliness can be a very heavy thing if you think about the persistent nature of the problems they've had as a family.

I get what you're saying, but the overall message is Dez is a fool. I'm friends with a guy who was drafted in the top 5 and had his mother and brother trying to spend his money like it was free water. He addressed the situation early and doesn't even associate with his brother often now. Dez has to understand that you can't allow your family to become a burden.

He doesn't get the benefit of the doubt in my book. He racked up almost a million dollars of debt in jewelry, made news for not wanting to do something every rookie does, got banned from a mall for him and his friends acting like teenagers and showing their underwear, and now this situation comes up. I know people from Lufkin too and he's always had a sense of entitlement. Its time for him to grow up. Whenever u have this many screw ups it can't keep being other people's fault.

The1ApplePie
07-17-2012, 03:17 PM
They are now saying he hit her with a baseball cap and ripped her bra. But it seems like he hit her. Rule #1 of being a man..never hit a woman...especially Mom. Idiot. In his position and she is begging him to leave...leave.



Whomever invented that rule never had a dangerously violent girlfriend.

A man should never…ever… beat a woman.

Hit her to protect yourself, someone else, or even her if she is a danger to herself? I can deal with it. Not a fan, and it should be a last resort, but it can happen.

Not using it to protect Dez. This sounds like a straight up punk move.

Doppelganger
07-17-2012, 03:31 PM
Whomever invented that rule never had a dangerously violent girlfriend.

A man should never…ever… beat a woman.

Hit her to protect yourself, someone else, or even her if she is a danger to herself? I can deal with it. Not a fan, and it should be a last resort, but it can happen.

Not using it to protect Dez. This sounds like a straight up punk move.

The person who invented that rule is a realist. If a man hits a woman, even to protect himself, he will still be looked at negatively. He will still get his butt dragged to jail. The charges may be dropped but the damage to a man's reputation has already happened. Perhaps he is fired from work, maybe his friends and/or family look at him differently.

Its simply not worth it. There are ways to protect yourself that don't involve hitting a woman. And rightly or wrongly, society will look down on a man hitting a woman for any reason. So, the person who invented that, was a realist living in the real world.

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 04:53 PM
Dez Bryant accused of grabbing his mom by the hair and hitting her (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/17/dez-bryant-accused-of-grabbing-his-mom-by-the-hair-and-hitting-her/)
July 17, 2012, 1:15 PM EDT


Police in DeSoto, Texas, said today that Cowboys wide receiver Dez Bryant grabbed his mother’s hair and hit her before he was arrested and charged with misdemeanor family violence.

“It’s pretty straightforward,” DeSoto Police Captain Ron Smith said, via the Star-Telegram. “He and his mom got in an argument. It’s physical. She got some injuries. We made the arrest.”

It is not clear to what extent Bryant’s mother was injured, although she did not need to be taken to the hospital. The police report says Bryant slapped his mother’s face with a baseball cap and pulled her hair. Some reports have said the incident between Bryant and his mother began as a fight between Bryant and his half brother, but Smith said he doesn’t know why Bryant and his family were fighting.

“Whatever led to it is really not an issue for us,” Smith said. “We have an injured person. We have a suspect. We’re going to move forward.”

If convicted Bryant could serve up to a year in jail. He could also be facing discipline for violating the NFL’s personal-conduct policy.

Rusty could pick up a couple more bucks if he plays it just right.:kitten:

paycheck71
07-17-2012, 05:23 PM
Jerry Jones just cannot help himself. From T.O. to PacMan to Dez...Jerry is addicted to flammable players.

Dallas fans deserve better than that. Jerry needs to reevaluate what he values most in his players. He needs to attend a clinic by McNair. Man I wish we could play them now...our defense would obliterate them.

Jerry is addicted to taking risks. Things aligned for him in his life where risk taking has paid off tremendously for him, both in business and early on with the Cowboys, and now the law of averages is catching up to him, at least as far as the Cowboys are concerned. You just can't roll the dice and expect a hard eight every time.

TheIronDuke
07-17-2012, 05:34 PM
Pimp slapped his own mom, figured she'd be used to it by now.

Heath Shuler
07-17-2012, 09:33 PM
Jerry Jones just cannot help himself. From T.O. to PacMan to Dez...Jerry is addicted to flammable players.

Dallas fans deserve better than that. Jerry needs to reevaluate what he values most in his players. He needs to attend a clinic by McNair. Man I wish we could play them now...our defense would obliterate them.

Not even close, they get exactly what they deserve.
:fans:

steelbtexan
07-17-2012, 11:28 PM
Had Dez at 15/doesn't know who the father is =check

Mother spends a yr and a half in jail for selling crack = check

Mother is/was a prositute = check

Yeah I could see where Dez might have a few mommy issues.

He still shouldn't have hit his mom. No matter how bad of a person she might be. I doubt she is telling the whole story. Obviously she has no character. Dez, I hope he has learned to distance himself from his past/family.

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 11:40 PM
Had Dez at 15/doesn't know who the father is =check

Mother spends a yr and a half in jail for selling crack = check

Mother is/was a prositute = check

Yeah I could see where Dez might have a few mommy issues.

He still shouldn't have hit his mom. No matter how bad of a person she might be. I doubt she is telling the whole story. Obviously she has no character. Dez, I hope he has learned to distance himself from his past/family.

He also took it pretty hard when in HS he found out that his mother's sexual preference was other ladies.

StarStruck
07-18-2012, 12:28 AM
He also took it pretty hard when in HS he found out that his mother's sexual preference was other ladies.

That's a nice home Dez bought. I hope the neighbors aren't saying there goes the neighborhood.

MightyTExan
07-18-2012, 01:24 PM
Pimp slapped his own mom, figured she'd be used to it by now.

http://i55.tinypic.com/venrsl.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
07-18-2012, 04:08 PM
Bryant's mother's 911 AUDIO (http://www.nfl.com/videos/dallas-cowboys/09000d5d82a9e810/Angela-Bryant-s-911-call)

CloakNNNdagger
07-18-2012, 04:21 PM
The accompanying videos to this article are worth listening to.
No. 88s discuss Dez Bryant arrest (http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8177782/dallas-cowboys-drew-pearson-michael-irvin-weigh-dez-bryant-arrest)

CloakNNNdagger
07-18-2012, 10:46 PM
Sad past............Possibly sadder future.


Dallas Cowboys: Sometimes Dez Bryant can't help but make wrong decisions (http://newsok.com/dallas-cowboys-sometimes-dez-bryant-cant-help-but-make-wrong-decisions/article/3693531#ixzz2124az07Y)
Those who know him say former OSU star is a good man at heart, but he needs direction from good role models.

By Berry Tramel | Published: July 18, 2012

Some things can't be fixed.

Not by a loving village. Not by a caring campus. Not by amazing athletic ability. Not by the world's most famous football team.

So Dez Bryant's life continues to spiral out of control. Even if he does wear the vaunted No. 88 for the Dallas Cowboys and might be the best player in shoulder pads for the men who wear the star. Even if he was such an athletic marvel at OSU that his last name no longer is necessary in the state of Oklahoma.

Dez was arrested Monday and booked on a misdemeanor charge of assaulting his mother, Angela.

There is no excuse for striking a woman, much less your mother. But the people who know Dez know what he's up against. How a horrible home life growing up in Lufkin, Texas, gave him few tools in which to make good decisions and live a fruitful life. How OSU gave him structure in his 21/2 years as a Cowboy, but once he was gone from Stillwater, that protection went, too.

A Lufkin teacher emailed me Tuesday to try to provide a glimpse of Dez's situation.

“The news media, the Dallas Cowboys, the public, the normal sports fan, cannot imagine the life that this young man had,” wrote the teacher, who I later spoke to and wished to remain anonymous. “What he had to overcome can't be imagined by most decent people.

“He comes from absolutely no home life, but when he was drafted, the family came out of the woodwork.”

At OSU, Dez never was a problem in terms of behavior. People throughout the athletic department will admit that Dez was completely irresponsible – didn't always go to class, late for meetings, didn't understand the concept of a schedule – but never was he a problem otherwise. No drinking. No drugs. No disrespect.

“The Dez I knew would not beat up his mother,” said Marilyn Middlebrook, OSU's associate athletic director for academic affairs. Middlebrook termed Dez “sweet” but “irresponsible.”

Which is not surprising, considering his home life. Dez's mother was 14 when he was born and later spent 18 months in prison for drug trafficking. Dez often went house to house to sleep. Middlebrook said the story around the athletic department was that Dez in Lufkin would sleep in his clothes, because he often had to move in the middle of the night.

“He didn't have any kind of family support,” the Lufkin teacher said. “Lived with all kinds of different people. He just never had anybody stable in his life. When these kids go off to college, or when they get drafted, they take that with them.”

Lufkin's coaches provided Dez with male role models, and former OSU assistant coach Gunter Brewer was a rock for Dez in Stillwater. But then came the 2010 NFL Draft. The cocoon was gone.

I figure the Cowboys selecting Dez actually was a curse. That he needed to go anywhere but Dallas or Houston. As far from Lufkin as possible. To Seattle or Miami or Buffalo.

That's what the people at OSU thought, too.

But the Lufkin teacher said it wouldn't matter, that Dez's family would have followed him.

Middlebrook said she's counseled former OSU basketball star Tony Allen on the same dangers. Allen was from the streets of Chicago. “Away from Chicago, he did great,” she said. But when he went home to visit his mother, old friends “who haven't been successful pull him away.” She's urged Allen to steer clear from those Chicago influences and believes he has.

But Dez has not. Since his OSU playing days, Dez and friends have been banned from a Dallas mall for inappropriate language and dress, he has been sued for unpaid debts, detained but not arrested for an altercation at a Miami Beach nightclub and fined by the Cowboys for infractions such as being late to meetings.

Dez needs direction and mentoring, but whoever he's turned to, including apparently his family, is providing neither. Dez had surrogate parents to some degree in the form of Lufkin High School faculty and OSU's athletic department. Just because he's 23 and an NFL player doesn't mean that need has expired.

The Lufkin teacher said Dez always had pride. Was always clean and decently dressed. “One of the sweetest, most generous kids you would ever want to meet,” the teacher said. “Just a really good kid. I don't know how he overcame what he overcame.”

But the sad truth is, Dez hasn't overcome it. Not yet anyway.

Some things can't be fixed.

StarStruck
07-18-2012, 11:06 PM
Very sad read, and puts in perspective somewhat what I came away with with the conversation I had with a Lufkin native. However, even in that conversation I didn't know a simple statement of getting away from the Lufkin connection could have been worse than I could ever imagine.

I stand by with my comments of "stay away Dez, stay away" but can he or will it really matter. I had another long conversation with a friend this afternoont who has an inside track about a lot of things that go on in the league, is not a Cowboys fan, but said that Dez was saddled with leechers who were there only for what they could get from him and had no problems in destroying his image or career if he didn't come through. That is a total opposite in the dynamics that most of us have in family.

I know this sounds incredible that I run in to some of the situations that I do, but a cousin through marriage recently met who she though was a wonderful gentleman from her parents home town who has a son in the league. He was the perfect gentleman on the phone, promised tickets to the son's team games, just Mr. Wonderful. He came to visit her in the state that she lives and a totally different picture emerged. He had a very nice SUV compliments of the son, and was depending on the son to keep reloading a VISA to sustain his lifestyle. The friendship lasted less than a week and my cousin couldn't believe a person his age could be such a loser. She was smart enough to end any talk of a future or further friendship.

steelbtexan
07-18-2012, 11:21 PM
Sad past............Possibly sadder future.

Thanks for the article Doc.

I've met some of the people in Dez old neighborhood and this really doesn't suprise me.

Texn4life
07-19-2012, 02:23 AM
That was a good CND and thanks for showing that.

I'm completely empathetic to his situation having to grow up without a REAL mother in his life, and understand how family can cling on to someone after they start making money. I have tons of stories of friends who were in similar situations. Some were fortunate enough to get in the NFL. Some weren't.

The issue with Dez is gonna be when will the cycle stop? I've been involved first hand with having to disassociate from family. Its never an easy thing to do, but he also has some issues that go beyond family. This is likely a turning point for him. He can become the next success story who changed his life around or he can become another statistic. A guy who allowed his upbringing to be used as an excuse for why he can't act right as a man. At this point, his family isn't just costing him money that he's spending directly on them. They're costing him a ton of money in potential income. If he's not able to afford that nice house anymore because he's out of the leaugue where are mom and the other leeches gonna go then?

Texn4life
07-19-2012, 02:24 AM
Duplicate..... please delete.

Norg
07-19-2012, 04:48 AM
now u see why mcnair has a no Bad boy policy on our team LOL

GP
07-19-2012, 10:06 AM
Some people compartmentalize better than others.

When I see someone on here posting that a person's past is their past and they oughtta' be able to make better decisions NOW...I think what's being lost is that not every person can compartmentalize like others can.

Not every person can lock up the dysfunction and store it away in a box.

For some, they just outwardly manifest the dysfunction. With Terrell Owens, his dysfunction drug of choice is relationships. He doesn't trust people, he backstabs teammates. Dez's problem is obviously that he's unable to break away from hurtful persons. Opposite dysfunctions but the root is the same: A verrrry hurtful childhood where adults were pieces of **** and neglected T.O. and Dez.

Dez needs to hire a 24-7 live-in consultant and motivator who keeps him busy and on time to meetings. Contract that person for one year. There are plenty of single guys who are qualified in sports management or lifestyle management who would easily earn a nice $50k salary to be Dez's lifestyle police.

Otherwise, he'll be a goner in two years.

2012Champs
07-19-2012, 11:44 AM
Some people compartmentalize better than others.

When I see someone on here posting that a person's past is their past and they oughtta' be able to make better decisions NOW...I think what's being lost is that not every person can compartmentalize like others can.

Not every person can lock up the dysfunction and store it away in a box.

For some, they just outwardly manifest the dysfunction. With Terrell Owens, his dysfunction drug of choice is relationships. He doesn't trust people, he backstabs teammates. Dez's problem is obviously that he's unable to break away from hurtful persons. Opposite dysfunctions but the root is the same: A verrrry hurtful childhood where adults were pieces of **** and neglected T.O. and Dez.

Dez needs to hire a 24-7 live-in consultant and motivator who keeps him busy and on time to meetings. Contract that person for one year. There are plenty of single guys who are qualified in sports management or lifestyle management who would easily earn a nice $50k salary to be Dez's lifestyle police.

Otherwise, he'll be a goner in two years.


The cowboys already employ a babysiter for him iirc. Also 50k isnt much money if Im working 24/7

GP
07-19-2012, 12:13 PM
The cowboys already employ a babysiter for him iirc. Also 50k isnt much money if Im working 24/7

I tried to click on your link to see news about this babysitter that you claim already works for the Cowboys. Maybe you should check your link? Oh that's right, it's just "iirc" and not really a link.

Also, if I'm living with a superstar (no mortgage or rent) and if he's paying my bills and other stuff (groceries) then $50k is a nice starting point.

I'm not exactly doing hard work, I'm just along for the ride and reminding him of things as if I'm a little angel sitting on his shoulder.

Would it work? Only if Dez continued to abide by the agreement. It'd be a long shot, for sure, but hey...he's going to crash and burn if he's left on his own. Might as well try the whole live-in Life Coach thing.

2012Champs
07-19-2012, 01:00 PM
I tried to click on your link to see news about this babysitter that you claim already works for the Cowboys. Maybe you should check your link? Oh that's right, it's just "iirc" and not really a link.

Also, if I'm living with a superstar (no mortgage or rent) and if he's paying my bills and other stuff (groceries) then $50k is a nice starting point.

I'm not exactly doing hard work, I'm just along for the ride and reminding him of things as if I'm a little angel sitting on his shoulder.

Would it work? Only if Dez continued to abide by the agreement. It'd be a long shot, for sure, but hey...he's going to crash and burn if he's left on his own. Might as well try the whole live-in Life Coach thing.


Im not sure I can link listening to Mike and Mike in the morning but they were talking about the Cowboys having someone to follow dez around. I also think it is a lot more work than you might think and "living with a superstar" isnt so super if its your job to keep it toned down

Texn4life
07-19-2012, 01:23 PM
Im not sure I can link listening to Mike and Mike in the morning but they were talking about the Cowboys having someone to follow dez around. I also think it is a lot more work than you might think and "living with a superstar" isnt so super if its your job to keep it toned down

I don't know about with Dez, but the Cowboys did it with Pac Man and it failed miserably.

CloakNNNdagger
07-19-2012, 01:24 PM
From March 31, 2011.

Is David Wells Dez Bryant's advisor or enabler? (http://www.wfaa.com/sports/football/Is-Davis-Wells-Dezs-advisor-or-his-enabler-119035299.html)


David Wells continues to be his "mentor."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82aa071c/article/dez-bryant-remorseful-about-incident-with-mother


About his "mentor."

Dez mentor is a felon with friends at Dallas courthouse (http://watchdogblog.dallasnews.com/2012/07/dez-mentor-is-a-felon-with-friends-at-dallas-courthouse.html/)

Texn4life
07-19-2012, 01:33 PM
Some people compartmentalize better than others.

When I see someone on here posting that a person's past is their past and they oughtta' be able to make better decisions NOW...I think what's being lost is that not every person can compartmentalize like others can.

Not every person can lock up the dysfunction and store it away in a box.

For some, they just outwardly manifest the dysfunction. With Terrell Owens, his dysfunction drug of choice is relationships. He doesn't trust people, he backstabs teammates. Dez's problem is obviously that he's unable to break away from hurtful persons. Opposite dysfunctions but the root is the same: A verrrry hurtful childhood where adults were pieces of **** and neglected T.O. and Dez.

Dez needs to hire a 24-7 live-in consultant and motivator who keeps him busy and on time to meetings. Contract that person for one year. There are plenty of single guys who are qualified in sports management or lifestyle management who would easily earn a nice $50k salary to be Dez's lifestyle police.

Otherwise, he'll be a goner in two years.


You know what GP, that sounds all well and good but you know what that's giving him? A never-ending excuse. This is a common problem in the black community and I really can't stand it. He'll always be able to say, "Well you know I grew up hard and my parents weren't in my life. I don't know how to deal with it."

Like I said before, he can become another statistic who allowed his upbringing to be his downfall like many thousands of others in the black community, or he can use his experiences to provide strength to him in life and overcome those things. Only he can control this because a live in babysitter won't be on the sideline when he's being disruptive with teammates. A live in babysitter won't stop him from getting into fights in the club. I wish the best for the guy, but these excuses will stick with him and he'll continue to use them as long as people keep allowing him to.

kwayshauntay
07-22-2012, 08:02 PM
So his mom is 37 years old? Fascinating.

GP
07-22-2012, 10:08 PM
You know what GP, that sounds all well and good but you know what that's giving him? A never-ending excuse. This is a common problem in the black community and I really can't stand it. He'll always be able to say, "Well you know I grew up hard and my parents weren't in my life. I don't know how to deal with it."

Like I said before, he can become another statistic who allowed his upbringing to be his downfall like many thousands of others in the black community, or he can use his experiences to provide strength to him in life and overcome those things. Only he can control this because a live in babysitter won't be on the sideline when he's being disruptive with teammates. A live in babysitter won't stop him from getting into fights in the club. I wish the best for the guy, but these excuses will stick with him and he'll continue to use them as long as people keep allowing him to.

I only said what I said because a team invested millions of dollars into the guy. Dez himself is also needing to do what's best for Dez.

If he could swallow his pride and admit he needs help, he could become a better person AND the player the Cowboys want him to be.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm only saying it makes financial sense for both Dez and the Cowboys to find a solution to the never-ending drama. They drafted him, he's their headache, I just think there's room to at least try something innovative like hiring a full-time mentor for him.

Again: In real life, I agree with you. But this isn't real life. This is NFL. It's huge money. Why wouldn't all parties to the problem sit down and find a way to make the best of it? I would.

CloakNNNdagger
07-22-2012, 10:13 PM
Jason Witten, who I consider one of the Cowboys' more adirable players, while growing up was part of a family with extreme dysfunction and violence. So has that turned out? He started the Jason Witten SCORE Foundation. His foundation has worked to educate and combat domestic violence. It is considered one of the largest and most impactful foundations among NFL players. He founded this organization in 2007.........at age 25.

CloakNNNdagger
07-24-2012, 12:25 AM
Authorities: Cowboys WR's mother doesn't want to pursue case (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/authorities-cowboys-wrs-mother-doesnt-want-case)

StarStruck
07-24-2012, 01:40 AM
Authorities: Cowboys WR's mother doesn't want to pursue case (http://bigstory.ap.org/article/authorities-cowboys-wrs-mother-doesnt-want-case)

Oh, wow, could have knocked me over with a feather. If he hasn't done so already, Dez needs to sign over the deed to that house, send a monthly allowance, and stay as far away from DeSoto as possible, emergencies included. I shutter to think of his life taking the direction of Clayton Holmes.

HoustonFrog
07-25-2012, 09:06 AM
Dez and Mom have news conference and say nothing happened. This scares me even more because you don't want the cycle of love/hate to keep spinning. Who knows what this family dynamic is....

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8196231/dallas-cowboys-wr-dez-bryant-mother-angela-hold-news-conference

CloakNNNdagger
07-25-2012, 12:53 PM
Dez and Mom have news conference and say nothing happened. This scares me even more because you don't want the cycle of love/hate to keep spinning. Who knows what this family dynamic is....

http://espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/story/_/id/8196231/dallas-cowboys-wr-dez-bryant-mother-angela-hold-news-conference

"Nothing happened" tells the whole story. The cycle will now have been allowed to continue......inside and outside the family. Rest assured that you will hear Dez's name called again............and it will not necessarily be from the field.

StarStruck
07-25-2012, 01:18 PM
"Nothing happened" tells the whole story. The cycle will now have been allowed to continue......inside and outside the family. Rest assured that you will hear Dez's name called again............and it will not necessarily be from the field.

I hope that you're wrong, not just because he's a Cowboy, but anybody with an opportunity to live their dreams only to get them derailed due to family dynamics.

HoustonFrog
07-25-2012, 01:37 PM
"Nothing happened" tells the whole story. The cycle will now have been allowed to continue......inside and outside the family. Rest assured that you will hear Dez's name called again............and it will not necessarily be from the field.

Hopefully it won't continue. I think deep down...at least the way I'm thinking..it comes down to a guy who loves his Mom(though if physical hitting took place, then that isn't a loving act) and wants to help her but she doesn't want to listen or change so he tries to force his will and, like an abusive married couple, you get these highs and lows. It would be best if he works on himself, lets her do her thing and supports her from afar. The hard part from the outside is knowing if there is physical abuse, is it a game, etc. Without knowing the reality of it, no one will step in.

CloakNNNdagger
07-25-2012, 06:43 PM
Jason Garrett suggests Dez Bryant needs counseling (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/25/jason-garrett-suggests-dez-bryant-needs-counseling/)

Ya think, Jason? How 'bout before this last of a string incidents?

CloakNNNdagger
07-31-2012, 03:50 PM
Jerry Jones: “Too Pissed To Talk” To Dez Bryant (http://dfw.cbslocal.com/2012/07/31/jerry-jones-too-pissed-to-talk-to-dez-bryant/)
By Mike Fisher, 105.3 The Fan | CBSDFW.COM
July 31, 2012 11:12 AM




OXNARD, CA (CBSDFW.COM) – We may never know who pulled what bra strap and we may never know if “striking someone in the face with a cap” is a truly violent act or just a re-enactment of an old Laurel & Hardy bit.

But this we do know about Dallas Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant’s recent legal entanglement: His boss is “pissed’’ about it.

Cowboys owner Jerry Jones revealed Tuesday morning on ‘Elf & Slater’ on 105.3 The Fan that the reason he hasn’t yet consulted with Bryant is, “Because I’m too pissed to talk to him.’’

The district attorney may be pressing on, even as Bryant’s mother Angela wishes to drop the charges of family violence against her Cowboys-employee son. How do we know that she’s telling the truth when she says she lied? We know that if you put the lad in a courtroom and maybe in jail, his leeches’ rents and mortgages don’t get paid.



Jerruh, Jerruh, Jerruh....What will you do??..........................NOTHING.....

http://www.beartrappr.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/braindead-art-hi-res-300x300.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
08-01-2012, 11:12 PM
Looks like Goodell is going to focus on these "misdeeds" in a more concentrated approach.

Goodell committed to stemming NFL's DUI, domestic violence arrests (http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/19705044/goodell-committed-to-stemming-nfls-dui-domestic-violence-arrests)

mexican_texan
08-01-2012, 11:38 PM
Jerry's just pissed Dez hasn't found a glory hole yet.

CloakNNNdagger
08-24-2012, 10:57 AM
Talented yet troubled at times, Cowboys receiver Dez Bryant hasn’t had someone in his life who can provide him with advice that he’s willing or able to heed. While it’s easy to find plenty of people who will give such advice, Bryant has to be receptive in order for the advice to take.

From Deion Sanders to David Wells to Eugene Parker to Drew Rosenhaus back to Eugene Parker to Jerry Jones to Jason Garrett, no one has been able to get Bryant’s full attention when it comes to getting and keeping his life in order. Former Cowboys receiver Drew Pearson, who wore the same number Dez now owns, tried — and Pearson has said that Bryant “laughed in my face.”

Bryant has now found someone, apparently. According to Mike Fisher and Richie Whitt of 105.3 The Fan in Dallas, Bryant’s potential mentor is former Cowboys tight end Jay Novacek.link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/24/dez-bryant-seeks-out-a-potential-mentor/)

The word "sociopath" comes to mind. A leash and a handler would seem more appropriate.

Wolf
08-26-2012, 04:12 PM
When the team broke camp in Oxnard, Calif. and returned to Dallas on Aug. 23, Bryant was presented with a series of conditions he must meet if he is to remain with the team. Judging from the specifics, we're guessing that Bryant has been lighting metropolitan Dallas up to an impressive degree.

Per ESPN Dallas, Bryant now has the following "restrictions":

• A midnight curfew. If he's going to miss curfew, team officials must know in advance;

• No drinking alcohol.

• He can't attend any strip clubs and can only attend nightclubs if they are approved by the team and he has a security team with him.

• He must attend counseling sessions twice a week.

• A rotating three-man security team will leave one man with Bryant at all times.

• Members of the security team will drive Bryant to practices, games and team functions.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cowboys-put-dez-bryant-double-secret-probation-171357876--nfl.html

Pantherstang84
08-27-2012, 09:12 PM
It is a sad situation. I was a Lufkin HS season ticket holder when he played high school football. The kid has unbelievable freak of nature talent. His HS coach the late John Outlaw was probably the only father figure Dez had in high school and John would keep those kids in line.

However, there were signs of trouble in high school. He started reading his own press clippings and his work ethic suffered. In fact, his entire senior class of football players was probably the most talented I have ever seen. However, they started getting the big head and got bounced in the 2nd round of the playoffs by a team that backed into the playoffs from their district.

I have said all of that to say this. My son is a year younger than Dez and came home one day and said Dez's position coach chewed him out in practice. Basically, Dez popped off about how high school didn't matter anymore since he was going to OSU anyway. His coach shot back, "Go on to OSU then. You'll be back in Lufkin dealing crack on the street 10 years from now anyway."

I think I want that coach to pick my lottery numbers for me.

CloakNNNdagger
08-27-2012, 09:40 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/cowboys-put-dez-bryant-double-secret-probation-171357876--nfl.html

Jerry left out the most important restriction of all..........."He is not allowed to beat his mother........in the presence of a witness.":kitten:

The Pencil Neck
08-27-2012, 09:55 PM
Jerry left out the most important restriction of all..........."He is not allowed to beat his mother........in the presence of a witness.":kitten:

Jerry's already hired someone to beat Dez's mother for him.

mattieuk
08-27-2012, 10:00 PM
Jerry left out the most important restriction of all..........."He is not allowed to beat his mother........in the presence of a witness.":kitten:

Yeah - I did look at the guidelines originally and though...hmm - it's sensible and all, but what does it have to do with the incident that took place?

Then I thought how employers work, and started thinking perhaps they've heard stories that haven't made the press about his outside of work behavior.

That said, I don't think that Pantherstang's coach is going to be right. He will obviously make a career of being a talking head on NFL Network first instead of having to deal crack.

House of Pain
08-28-2012, 12:58 PM
It is a sad situation. I was a Lufkin HS season ticket holder when he played high school football. The kid has unbelievable freak of nature talent. His HS coach the late John Outlaw was probably the only father figure Dez had in high school and John would keep those kids in line.

However, there were signs of trouble in high school. He started reading his own press clippings and his work ethic suffered. In fact, his entire senior class of football players was probably the most talented I have ever seen. However, they started getting the big head and got bounced in the 2nd round of the playoffs by a team that backed into the playoffs from their district.

I have said all of that to say this. My son is a year younger than Dez and came home one day and said Dez's position coach chewed him out in practice. Basically, Dez popped off about how high school didn't matter anymore since he was going to OSU anyway. His coach shot back, "Go on to OSU then. You'll be back in Lufkin dealing crack on the street 10 years from now anyway."

I think I want that coach to pick my lottery numbers for me.

I must agree with you, I saw Lufkin (w/ Dez) in Houston take on North Shore. To call it a 'game' would be a very liberal use of the word. Dez is arguably one of the most physically talented football players I've seen in HS, if not the most. He touched the ball 3 or 4 times, and every time it was a touchdown.


As deep as my hatred for all things Cowgirls go, I find this particularly delightful because Jerry should know by now, you can't fix stupid.

CloakNNNdagger
08-29-2012, 06:44 PM
I must agree with you, I saw Lufkin (w/ Dez) in Houston take on North Shore. To call it a 'game' would be a very liberal use of the word. Dez is arguably one of the most physically talented football players I've seen in HS, if not the most. He touched the ball 3 or 4 times, and every time it was a touchdown.


As deep as my hatred for all things Cowgirls go, I find this particularly delightful because Jerry should know by now, you can't fix stupid.

And you should know by now that as also relates to Jerry, in managing player problems, you can't fix stupid.:chef:

CloakNNNdagger
09-14-2012, 09:01 AM
Jerry Jones: Rules might save Dez Bryant's Cowboys career
(http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nfl/story/2012/09/13/jerry-jones-rules-might-save-dez-bryants-cowboys-career/57775160/1)

Had the third-year pro not agreed to the guidelines, would he still be a member of the Cowboys?

"That's a fair question, but I don't know the answer," Cowboys owner Jerry Jones told USA TODAY Sports. "But let me say this: To be on the Dallas Cowboys, he needed to show that he was serious about altering his lifestyle."







http://data.whicdn.com/images/18260437/tumblr_lsmalzuit71qmwcoso1_500_thumb.jpg

CloakNNNdagger
11-03-2012, 09:23 AM
MESSAGE: DEZ TO DALLAS COWBOYS......



http://www.iwantcovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/How-Awesome-I-Am.jpg


Apart from a chronic inability to catch the football, to not misplay punts, and to remain healthy, Bryant has been placed on a set of rules for off-field conduct. According to BlackSportsOnline.com, now part of the USA Today Media Group, Bryant violated one of the basic terms of his double secret probation.

Dez was out past midnight, even though he’s questionable for Sunday night’s game at Atlanta with a hip injury.

Given that the Cowboys insisted that they didn’t impose the rules on Bryant and that he imposed them on himself, it’ll be interesting to see what happens next.

Will Dez fine himself? Bench himself? Suspend himself?

For now, we’ll have to wait and see what Dez does — and what the Cowboys don’t do.link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/11/03/report-dez-violates-his-curfew/)

texanprincess
11-04-2012, 01:50 AM
If he could catch a football, would anyone care if he was out past midnight?

SAMURAITEXAN
11-04-2012, 07:47 AM
If he could catch a football, would anyone care if he was out past midnight?

Nope, but someone has to change his diaper!