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CloakNNNdagger
07-15-2012, 08:03 AM
Johnathan Joseph left Cincinnati to sign a five-year, $48.75 million contract in Houston last year, so it’s not surprising that Joseph views the Texans as a more generous team than the Bengals. But Joseph says that goes beyond players’ salaries.

According to Joseph, Texans owner Bob McNair cares about the players’ families and is willing to provide whatever is needed to make the players comfortable, while Bengals owner Mike Brown nickel-and-dimes them about everything from sports drinks to road trips.

“The first thing about Houston is it’s an organization run from a different perspective,” Joseph told HeraldOnline.com. “In Cincy, the team lives off money it earns from football. Houston’s owner has other business interests and he controls the money. Numerous things that go on such as the way Houston interacts with my family; we’re treated in a first-class way. They helped us when my wife lost our baby daughter in a miscarriage. But they help with anything you ask of them because they are a very caring organization with positive attitudes about its players. In Cincy, we’re told how much Gatorade we could take home. In Houston we get what we request. You get soap and deodorant at your request. You don’t have a roommate on road trips.”

Joseph is far from the first player to complain about the Bengals’ spendthrift ways, but he puts it in particularly stark terms: Sometimes there’s more to how happy an owner can make a player than how big a paycheck the owner will sign. Sometimes it’s about showing consideration for a player’s family, or not making an issue of it if the player says he’ll sleep better on the road if he has his own room. That’s what Joseph says he’s getting in Houston, and what he says he didn’t get in Cincinnati.link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/15/johnathan-joseph-bengals-are-cheap-texans-are-not/)

It's good to hear about Joseph's contrasting experience. But I don't know that, of all teams, I would be picking the Bengals as a comparison example to try to illustrate how generous another team might be.

thunderkyss
07-15-2012, 08:17 AM
link (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/15/johnathan-joseph-bengals-are-cheap-texans-are-not/)

It's good to hear about Joseph's contrasting experience. But I don't know that, of all teams, I would be picking the Bengals as a comparison example to try to illustrate how generous another team might be.

Well... you know, he has experience with two teams...

What I thought odd was:
“In Cincy, the team lives off money it earns from football. Houston’s owner has other business interests and he controls the money.

Mr. McNair will probably getting a visit from the IRS in the near future.

& why does a multimillionaire need to bring gatorade home?

Wolf
07-15-2012, 10:16 AM
Q: Houston has a solid team and appears on its way to becoming one of the NFL’s best after going 10-6, winning the AFC South and making the second round of the playoffs last season. What are your thoughts and how have your teammates responded to the rise?

Everyone was excited; making the playoffs and going to the second round was our reward for lots of hard work. But we didn’t settle for that. Our ultimate goal was to go to Super Bowl and win it; still is. We’ve had strong participation in summer workouts. It was like a college atmosphere. Every player worked hard and wants to be the best at his position, collectively as a team, and we pushed each other during drills. It’s great to see how well the guys get along off and on the field.



http://www.heraldonline.com/2012/07/15/4112733/qa-with-former-northwestern-standout.html

Playoffs
07-15-2012, 10:33 AM
We're lucky to have Mr. McNair as an owner.

GP
07-15-2012, 10:46 AM
That's the sort of thing we need to appear in media: i.e. Why Houston is a good destination for free agents.

My only quibble is that he's airing a bit of laundry. I don't like it when former Texans speak negatively about Houston, so the shoe fits here IMO.

The other thing is he's talking about McNair's income, sort of. Probably should have not said that, it didn't add anything to his story.

The part about Houston caring for him and his wife during the miscarriage was really good.

All in all: Good publicity for H-Town.

nero THE zero
07-15-2012, 02:03 PM
The other thing is he's talking about McNair's income, sort of. Probably should have not said that, it didn't add anything to his story.


He was qualifying his statement.

Instead of saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not," he was saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not, and here's why..."

ChampionTexan
07-15-2012, 02:13 PM
He was qualifying his statement.

Instead of saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not," he was saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not, and here's why..."

Yep - he's actually trying to tone down the negative aspects of his comments regarding the Bengals.

Also, given that it's widely known that McNair has and had other sources of income (from the sale of Cogen Technologies, to ongoing investment in the power generation industry, to owning and racing horses), I think the chance of any negative backlash from either the general public or the IRS is minimal.

thunderkyss
07-15-2012, 02:51 PM
I'm sure Houston will become a top destination for the best FA as soon as they get word that McNair lets them take home all the Gatorade they want.


Winning a couple dozen more play-off games won't hurt either.

GP
07-15-2012, 03:00 PM
He was qualifying his statement.

Instead of saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not," he was saying, "Brown's cheap and McNair's not, and here's why..."

And you think that's wisdom to do so? I don't.

J Jo didn't make a huge transgression, I won't paint it as such. I gave him props for other things he said, the part on McNair's income stream(s) was mildly awkward. Again: Overall, good pub for the good guys!

badboy
07-15-2012, 03:18 PM
I'm sure Houston will become a top destination for the best FA as soon as they get word that McNair lets them take home all the Gatorade they want.


Winning a couple dozen more play-off games won't hurt either.I understand your sarcasm but many folks like the little things. Money is great but that personal touch cannot be overlooked. You think players won't hear that about the McNairs being there during a miscarriage? You betcha.

GP
07-15-2012, 03:24 PM
I understand your sarcasm but many folks like the little things. Money is great but that personal touch cannot be overlooked. You think players won't hear that about the McNairs being there during a miscarriage? You betcha.

Was he personally there? I don't remember the event(s) when it actually happened.

I think the best thing that can happen is finally happening: Players want a good team environment AND they want to win too. We've always had one of those things, and now we have the other. This is what's key, IMO.

kingh99
07-15-2012, 05:06 PM
I'm sure Houston will become a top destination for the best FA as soon as they get word that McNair lets them take home all the Gatorade they want.


Winning a couple dozen more play-off games won't hurt either.

One supports the other. Gatorade is a superficial example but what he's saying can't be ignored. All pro leagues are players leagues. Coaches coach at the pleasure of the players. Players shut it down, coach gets fired. All the best teams go first class. The comment about McNair having other revenue streams is important. He doesn't have to live and die making money with the sports franchise.

Successful people are successful for a reason and it's not always who they know. They have to make their own imprint or they'll be labeled wannabes of daddy's boys. Bud Adams is a daddy's boy and it shows in how he runs the team. He fell into it. I've known men like Adams and they never measure up to their fathers. They are spoiled and impetuous adult brats.

Hervoyel
07-15-2012, 05:17 PM
Well... you know, he has experience with two teams...

What I thought odd was:


Mr. McNair will probably getting a visit from the IRS in the near future.

& why does a multimillionaire need to bring gatorade home?

Yeah, he can only compare the two teams he's played for so that makes sense to me. What's important here is that he's very clear that the Texans are nothing like the Bengals. That's the message you want free agents around the league to get out of this.

I thought the other side to your question was "Why would a billionaire care how much Gatorade a multimillionaire takes home?" I'm sure that no matter how much he's drinking it's a trivial amount. McNair doesn't apparently sweat the small stuff. Brown does.

Texan_Bill
07-15-2012, 05:30 PM
Basically JJo said the same thing about Cincy that Cris Dishman said about the Oilers when he left.

CloakNNNdagger
07-15-2012, 05:46 PM
Yeah, he can only compare the two teams he's played for so that makes sense to me. What's important here is that he's very clear that the Texans are nothing like the Bengals. That's the message you want free agents around the league to get out of this.

I thought the other side to your question was "Why would a billionaire care how much Gatorade a multimillionaire takes home?" I'm sure that no matter how much he's drinking it's a trivial amount. McNair doesn't apparently sweat the small stuff. Brown does.

Like that wasn't perfectly clear before he made his comments. :specnatz::)

Brisco_County
07-15-2012, 06:59 PM
It's another reminder of why the departure of Bud Adams will forever be a great thing.

Texan_Bill
07-15-2012, 07:00 PM
It's a reminder of why the departure of Bud Adams will forever be a great thing.

Exactly.... See my post about Cris Dishman's comments about the Oilers ---> Pud Adams.

Texan_Bill
07-15-2012, 07:03 PM
For the "Uncle Bob" haters, the question is this: How many "oxes" have the Bengals seen "stuck in a ditch"?

:D

TexansFanatic
07-15-2012, 07:20 PM
It's another reminder of why the departure of Bud Adams will forever be a great thing.

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt340/hookemfanatic/budadams.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTxHuUGG_2c)

Pure class.

Rey
07-15-2012, 07:35 PM
& why does a multimillionaire need to bring gatorade home?

Convenience.

thunderkyss
07-15-2012, 07:51 PM
Convenience.

I wonder what Sorbanes-Oxley have to say about that.

ChampionTexan
07-15-2012, 08:09 PM
I wonder what Sorbanes-Oxley have to say about that.

Uhmm...OK - just curious why on earth would you think this has anything to do with Sarbanes Oxley?

Premier
07-15-2012, 08:40 PM
i checked out the bengals board, they seem to be making a big deal about the soap and deodorant comments... i have a feeling its more about their lockers being stocked with this stuff, than it is about players not wanting to buy their own personal hygiene products.. im sure players have their own soap and deodorant at home, and some owners would rather have their players know that when they are at work they dont have to worry about these miniscule things, since their players workout all day and take showers after. its a luxury of being a first-class athlete and being a key part of an organization that rakes in billions of dollars.. if i was a player the organization that offered these player-friendly quirks would seem more appealing, especially if that organization fields a better team..

ATXtexanfan
07-15-2012, 09:15 PM
& why does a multimillionaire need to bring gatorade home?

Cause if its free I'll take two. Multimillionaire or not

thunderkyss
07-15-2012, 09:20 PM
Cause if its free I'll take two. Multimillionaire or not

Nothings free.

Texan_Bill
07-15-2012, 09:49 PM
Well... you know, he has experience with two teams...

What I thought odd was:


Mr. McNair will probably getting a visit from the IRS in the near future.

& why does a multimillionaire need to bring gatorade home?

You're focussing in and on the wrong things. These athletes make millions for companies like gatorade... The NFL does so too.

JJo just grabbed a simple thing to make a point. It's too bad simpleton's used his example as something to attack. Pathetic, really!!


See his point, NOT his example.

thunderkyss
07-15-2012, 09:59 PM
JJo just grabbed a simple thing to make a point. It's too bad simpleton's used his example as something to attack. Pathetic, really!!


when you want to make a word plural, simply adding an 's' will usually suffice.

the apostrophe indicates possesion. In this case, you are saying "used his example" belongs to a simpleton. The statement doesn't make sense, because "used his example" isn't an object or trait to be owned.

Do I really need to define pathetic for you, or do you get my point.... not my example.

Hervoyel
07-15-2012, 11:05 PM
Like that wasn't perfectly clear before he made his comments. :specnatz::)

Can't be repeated too many times.

Hervoyel
07-15-2012, 11:08 PM
when you want to make a word plural, simply adding an 's' will usually suffice.

the apostrophe indicates possesion. In this case, you are saying "used his example" belongs to a simpleton. The statement doesn't make sense, because "used his example" isn't an object or trait to be owned.

Do I really need to define pathetic for you, or do you get my point.... not my example.

http://turnerwatson.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/grammar-nazi2.jpg

GP
07-15-2012, 11:10 PM
when you want to make a word plural, simply adding an 's' will usually suffice.

the apostrophe indicates possesion. In this case, you are saying "used his example" belongs to a simpleton. The statement doesn't make sense, because "used his example" isn't an object or trait to be owned.

Do I really need to define pathetic for you, or do you get my point.... not my example.

Or...his device might have added an apostrophe and he didn't catch it before hitting the submit button.

Submit button. That thing that some people hit too early when they should have simply slowed down to examine all the angles first. ;)

barrett
07-16-2012, 12:10 AM
Wow, reading this thread has really been something. I think it's safe to say, with seven days to go until rookies report, that we have reached the bottom of the offseason.

Riveting stuff all of it...

Especially discussions such as:

The IRS and Mr. McNair
What the motivation is for J Jo to take home gatorade versus soap...

Norg
07-16-2012, 12:44 AM
and yet when some of our X players leaves or gets traded they say bad things about the texans ...????

michaelm
07-16-2012, 09:05 AM
Nothings free.

when you want to make a word plural, simply adding an 's' will usually suffice.

the apostrophe indicates possesion. In this case, you are saying "used his example" belongs to a simpleton. The statement doesn't make sense, because "used his example" isn't an object or trait to be owned.

Do I really need to define pathetic for you, or do you get my point.... not my example.

Thanks for the Monday morning amusement, TK.

I'm usually not a big fan of seeing grammar and spelling corrected on a forum, because it just feels kind of petty, and unnecessary to me in most cases. But to each his own, no big deal.

On the other hand, I do get a kick out of seeing you correct Bill for apostrophe usage, literally two posts after you omitted an apostrophe yourself.

:kitten:

thunderkyss
07-16-2012, 09:45 AM
Thanks for the Monday morning amusement, TK.

I'm usually not a big fan of seeing grammar and spelling corrected on a forum, because it just feels kind of petty, and unnecessary to me in most cases. But to each his own, no big deal.

On the other hand, I do get a kick out of seeing you correct Bill for apostrophe usage, literally two posts after you omitted an apostrophe yourself.

:kitten:

Good catch.

I'm glad to see all you guys jump on the grammar police, but don't have a problem when a fellow board member calls another a simpleton.

personal attacks ok.

punctuation correction...... not so much.

I'll remember that in the future.

Playoffs
07-16-2012, 09:45 AM
Nothings free.
On the other hand, I do get a kick out of seeing you correct Bill for apostrophe usage, literally two posts after you omitted an apostrophe yourself.

:kitten:
Classic. http://mangahelpers.com/forum/images/smilies/teacher%20smiley.png

GP
07-16-2012, 09:50 AM
Good catch.

I'm glad to see all you guys jump on the grammar police, but don't have a problem when a fellow board member calls another a simpleton.

personal attacks ok.

punctuation correction...... not so much.

I'll remember that in the future.

You attempted to call him a simpleton back by attacking his apostrophe usage.

You oughtta' know that the ref throws the flag on the guy who retaliates.

michaelm
07-16-2012, 09:58 AM
Good catch.

I'm glad to see all you guys jump on the grammar police, but don't have a problem when a fellow board member calls another a simpleton.

personal attacks ok.

punctuation correction...... not so much.

I'll remember that in the future.

Another possibility is that I (we) didn't pick up on the personal attack angle from his post.

Nothing in your post indicated that you we responding to a personal attack, and giving you a hard time doesn't necessarily indicate that I condone them.

Blake
07-16-2012, 10:15 AM
http://cdn.head-fi.org/7/76/76d31508_c851d40e_Derail_1.jpeg

Dutchrudder
07-16-2012, 10:17 AM
http://i465.photobucket.com/albums/rr14/themishkin/GIFs/AbandonThread.gif

beerlover
07-16-2012, 10:30 AM
Joseph is a classy young man with soild family background nothing here, trying to make something from nothing. God I really hate the off-season. How many weeks before training camp?

Double Barrel
07-16-2012, 10:45 AM
“The first thing about Houston is it’s an organization run from a different perspective,” Joseph told HeraldOnline.com. “In Cincy, the team lives off money it earns from football. Houston’s owner has other business interests and he controls the money. Numerous things that go on such as the way Houston interacts with my family; we’re treated in a first-class way. They helped us when my wife lost our baby daughter in a miscarriage. But they help with anything you ask of them because they are a very caring organization with positive attitudes about its players. In Cincy, we’re told how much Gatorade we could take home. In Houston we get what we request. You get soap and deodorant at your request. You don’t have a roommate on road trips.”

This statement says so much.

If a pro football organization is counting Gatorade bottles, you know it's run by a bunch of cheap som'bithces. I doubt "all you can drink Gatorade" is a selling point for the Texans, but you can be damn sure that a team that is keeping track of Gatorade bottles will be well known as cheap. And isn't it in the team's best interests to keep these guys hydrated? Seems like a no-brainer to me.

Above and beyond that, though, is the idea that an organization cares about it's players, especially when perceived from the owner on down. That, above all else, is telling players something about integrity and honor, even in a cut-throat business like pro football.

I do not look at this as airing "dirty laundry". He's only conveying his experiences and how they contrast each other. We already know that the Bengals is a garbage organization, so this is not really telling us something we don't know.

KMG 365
07-16-2012, 12:25 PM
JJ Watt likes his free Gatorade, too.

https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/217776868978466817/photo/1

Hervoyel
07-16-2012, 01:14 PM
and yet when some of our X players leaves or gets traded they say bad things about the texans ...????

I believe the more often than not our players leave and say good things about their new teammates/organization/city and we collectively have a tendancy to interpret what maybe they didn't say about Houston in a bad light.

Not to say that no former player has ever said bad things about Houston or the Texans. It's happened. I just think when a player goes somewhere else we have a tendancy to take what he says personally and sometimes in the wrong way.

silvrhand
07-16-2012, 02:21 PM
http://turnerwatson.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/grammar-nazi2.jpg

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law

Thread should now be locked lol..

GP
07-16-2012, 03:02 PM
Joseph is a classy young man with soild family background nothing here, trying to make something from nothing. God I really hate the off-season. How many weeks before training camp?

LOL.

This place becomes a ticking time bomb about one or two weeks before camp begins.

It's like deer in rut.

Goatcheese
07-16-2012, 03:51 PM
It isn't about the value of the perks, it's about the respect and appreciation that they are showing you by providing them.

When a billionaire goes to Vegas it doesn't mean a lot financially to have a suite comped, but it makes you feel much more welcome when a hostess gives you everything you want without even having to ask for it.

Or a less expensive example, when the bagger carriers your groceries to your car. It doesn't really have a monetary value to you, but it is something that makes the company more appealing than the store that refuses to double bag to save a few pennies.

It's about a commitment to providing a quality environment and showing people that you (atleast pretend to) care about them. The Texans go the extra mile, the Bengal's charge for every inch.

TexansFanatic
07-16-2012, 03:53 PM
it makes you feel much more welcome when a hostess gives you everything you want without even having to ask for it.

You got that right!

:spin:

Texan_Bill
07-16-2012, 06:52 PM
LOL.

This place becomes a ticking time bomb about one or two weeks before camp begins.

It's like deer in rut.

DUDE!!! Get your **** straight... It's "an ox in a ditch!" :D

Texan_Bill
07-16-2012, 07:31 PM
when you want to make a word plural, simply adding an 's' will usually suffice.

the apostrophe indicates possesion. In this case, you are saying "used his example" belongs to a simpleton. The statement doesn't make sense, because "used his example" isn't an object or trait to be owned.

Do I really need to define pathetic for you, or do you get my point.... not my example.

WOW!! I didn't see this post earlier....

:mcnugget:

It is = it's

example:

It is completely plausible that someone got their panties in a wad from a post not necessarily intended for said person.

-OR-

It's completely plausible that someone got their panties in a wad from a post not necessarily intended for said person.


That said, a dumbass dog chases its own tail.



And sir, you have NO point when it comes to, nor an example of "pathetic". Whenever all else fails, go to the Grammar Nazi card = pathetic!

JB
07-16-2012, 07:44 PM
wow!! I didn't see this post earlier....

:mcnugget:

It is = it's

example:

It is completely plausible that someone got their panties in a wad from a post not necessarily intended for said person.

-or-

it's completely plausible that someone got their panties in a wad from a post not necessarily intended for said person.


That said, a dumbass dog chases its own tail.



And sir, you have no point when it comes to, nor an example of "pathetic". Whenever all else fails, go to the grammar nazi card = pathetic!

hahahahaha!!!!

Texan_Bill
07-16-2012, 08:17 PM
hahahahaha!!!!

What are you laughing at Old Man??? ;)

infantrycak
07-16-2012, 09:20 PM
And sir, you have NO point when it comes to, nor an example of "pathetic".

FYI - periods and commas go inside the quotation mark. :kitten:

powda
07-16-2012, 09:35 PM
And sir, you have NO point when it comes to, nor an example of "pathetic". Whenever all else fails, go to the Grammar Nazi card = pathetic!

But sir, sentences are not supposed to begin with the words "and" or "but."
:smiliedance:

Kaiser Toro
07-16-2012, 09:47 PM
Leaf no simpleton behinds'!

michaelm
07-16-2012, 09:53 PM
FYI - periods and commas go inside the quotation mark. :kitten:

Might I impose upon you to spell out the acronym FYI, so I can confirm that you've correctly used the possessive "your", and not the contraction "you're"?

FYI - I believe the question mark goes on the outside of the quotation marks in my statement...

:kitten:


BTW - I know FYI is an initialism, and not an acronym, but I thought calling it an initialism initially might result in many people asking WTF?, and although some people might LOL, others might tell me to STFU.

TexansFanatic
07-16-2012, 10:01 PM
It's:

http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt340/hookemfanatic/its.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rutX0I6NxU)

The Pencil Neck
07-16-2012, 10:21 PM
FYI - periods and commas go inside the quotation mark. :kitten:

Not always. If the statement inside the question mark would normally have a period and the question is about that statement, then the question mark goes outside the quotes. And example from teh Grammarbook website: (http://www.grammarbook.com/punctuation/quotes.asp)


Do you agree with the saying, "All's fair in love and war"?
Here the question is outside the quote.

NOTE: Only one ending punctuation mark is used with quotation marks. Also, the stronger punctuation mark wins. Therefore, no period after war is used.

badboy
07-16-2012, 10:32 PM
I found a MB where I can discuss sports, religion, politics, etc and improve my grammer! I am or I'm so happy.

TexansFanatic
07-16-2012, 10:34 PM
I found a MB where I can discuss sports, religion, politics, etc and improve my grammer! I am or I'm so happy.

And what about your spelling?

Wolf
07-16-2012, 10:37 PM
I knew there was a reason the drunk thread hadn't been bumped in a few weeks.. You FOOLS were at the library!
:yikes:

infantrycak
07-16-2012, 10:49 PM
Not always. :[/URL]

You didn't address anything I said. Commas and periods go inside quotation marks. I didn't address question marks but it varies on whether what is inside the quotes is a question (inside) or statement (outside).

thunderkyss
07-16-2012, 11:35 PM
Leaf no simpleton behinds'!

!!!I'm not a simpleton!!!



:texan:

The Pencil Neck
07-17-2012, 02:23 AM
You didn't address anything I said. Commas and periods go inside quotation marks. I didn't address question marks but it varies on whether what is inside the quotes is a question (inside) or statement (outside).

Point. I read "periods and commas" and translated that to "punctuation marks." My bad.

ObsiWan
07-17-2012, 06:21 AM
This'll teach Doc to try and start a normal, positive thread during the downtime between OTAs and training camp.

If we don't have anything to b!tch about in the thread content, by george we'll fabricate something.
:kitten:

michaelm
07-17-2012, 08:35 AM
This'll teach Doc to try and start a normal, positive thread during the downtime between OTAs and training camp.

If we don't have anything to b!tch about in the thread content, by george we'll fabricate something.
:kitten:

I'm certain that you've offended me somehow. I'll get back to you when I've figured it out.

Dutchrudder
07-17-2012, 09:12 AM
I found a MB where I can discuss sports, religion, politics, etc and improve my grammer! I am or I'm so happy.

FYI, you need to capitalize the first letter of your name.

Showtime100
07-17-2012, 09:45 AM
..........so anyhoo, the Bengals are cheap, the Texans are not.

HOU-TEX
07-17-2012, 10:35 AM
..........so anyhoo, the Bengals are cheap, the Texans are not.

Eh, according to a select few around here....the Texans are cheap too. :rolleyes:

GP
07-17-2012, 10:38 AM
11 days remain.

11 days until we actually have something to talk about.

11 days.

11.

ObsiWan
07-17-2012, 10:48 AM
I'm certain that you've offended me somehow. I'll get back to you when I've figured it out.

Let me know either way.
If I did offend you, I want to be able to repeat it.
If I didn't, I'll try harder.
:kitten:

CloakNNNdagger
07-17-2012, 01:33 PM
Let me know either way.
If I did offend you, I want to be able to repeat it.
If I didn't, I'll try harder.
:kitten:

:spit::spit:

Wolf
07-19-2012, 02:48 PM
Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis was quick to defend the Bengals and their miniature Gatorade prohibition act. From a chat at Cincinnati.com:

I was told this morning about Johnathan's comments that were printed. It's my fault that I feel that a player doesn't need to take a dozen Gatorades home in his backpack each night and that we are paying him a salary. I'm sure that Johnathan would not have been one of the abusive players but it is my policy.
I really wish they would have used the whole quote instead of just talking about Gatorade.

but whatever gets hits I guess
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jonathan-joseph-really-likes-gatorade-situation-houston-083302098--nfl.html

2012Champs
07-19-2012, 03:46 PM
I really wish they would have used the whole quote instead of just talking about Gatorade.

but whatever gets hits I guess
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/jonathan-joseph-really-likes-gatorade-situation-houston-083302098--nfl.html



If you have a person who is taking 12+ gatorades home a night then you address it with that person. Its all about feel and how a team manages its players. In any group of the workers feel like the managers are micromanaging or nitpicking it certainly makes for a negative workplace

bayoudreamn
07-19-2012, 04:41 PM
Let me know either way.
If I did offend you, I want to be able to repeat it.
If I didn't, I'll try harder.
:kitten:

your cat looks like he needs to go P.

GP
07-19-2012, 05:16 PM
Marvin Lewis in an NFLN article said he (Marvin Lewis) made that policy, not the owner.

His reasoning was that the guys are making enough scratch to afford their own Gatorade if they want to take some home. Marvin took a pot shot at J Jo, as well, and you can find the article if you want to find it.

I'm too lazy to go grab the link.

This is a situation, IMO, where J Jo should have just left it alone and he should have just talked about the TEXANS. Bringing up isolated policy matters, to make a point, just rakes up cat **** and makes it stink the place up. Nobody wins those sorts of deals, IMO. We all get to smell the cat **** together. LOL.

False Start
07-20-2012, 09:26 AM
Eh, according to a select few around here....the Texans are cheap too. :rolleyes:

Yeah, Bob McClane.

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