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CloakNNNdagger
07-03-2012, 11:40 PM
Growing up as a little kid in KC watching the Chiefs, I remember him terrorizing our O. He played the game the way it was meant to be played......."I will show them no quarter." He was a giant amongst players of his day.......6'8" 175 pounds. RIP, Ben.


Ben Davidson, Oakland Raiders legend, dies of prostate cancerNFL.com Wire Reports
Published: July 3, 2012 at 05:10 p.m. Updated: July 3, 2012 at 11:21 p.m. 37
Ben Davidson, the hulking defensive end who starred for the Oakland Raiders in the 1960s before becoming a famous television pitch man, has died. He was 72.

Davidson died Monday night. He was being treated for prostate cancer. Former Raiders coach John Madden first reported Davidson's death Tuesday on KCBS-AM radio in San Francisco.

CSN Bay Area initially reported on Madden's comments Tuesday. The Raiders later confirmed Davidson's death in a release.

Davidson spent 11 years in pro football. He was drafted out of Washington by the New York Giants in 1961 but played his first season in the league with the Green Bay Packers. He spent two seasons with the Washington Redskins before heading to Oakland.

With his distinctive handlebar mustache, raspy voice and physical play, Davidson helped personify Al Davis' renegade Raiders of the 1960s. He made the Pro Bowl in 1966, 1967 and 1968.

"We'll miss him," Raiders owner Mark Davis told CSN Bay Area on Tuesday. "He was larger than life and a wonderful human being."

Davidson went to the playoffs four times with the Raiders, and was on the team that lost to the Green Bay Packers in Super Bowl II.

"He was a tough, gutsy ballplayer, team-oriented with enough meanness in him to be feared and enough talent to be effective," former Raiders teammate Tom Flores told the Associated Press.

"He was just a big, tall, skinny guy that (Al) Davis took a chance with," Flores said. "He was able to rush the passer and worked hard to get bigger and stronger, with the character and personality. He was always that way."

After his playing career, Davidson became a successful actor with roles in films like "M-A-S-H," "Conan the Barbarian" and "Necessary Roughness" and he played himself in Miller Lite ads.

Davidson is survived by his wife, Kathy, and daughters Jan, Dana and Vicki.

steelbtexan
07-03-2012, 11:45 PM
6'8 175 Lbs = tapeworm hard at work. LOL

Rip Big Ben you were a true legend.

The world lost 2 great people/legends today. Ben Davidson and Andy Griffith.

CloakNNNdagger
07-03-2012, 11:57 PM
This will give you a flavor of the "Fear Factor" that Davidson cultivated.

Ben Davidson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUlrrmZAsRQ)

steelbtexan
07-04-2012, 01:45 AM
This will give you a flavor of the "Fear Factor" that Davidson cultivated.

Ben Davidson (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sUlrrmZAsRQ)

Now that's how football is supposed to be played.

Not this panzy brand of football that God'ell is currently forcing down the throats of the fans. You cany really hit the QB's or Wr's in todays game. Could you imagine the defenseless WR rule in the days of Tatum and Atkinson? LOL

Showtime100
07-04-2012, 01:49 AM
Now that's how football is supposed to be played.

Not this panzy brand of football that God'ell is currently forcing down the throats of the fans. You cany really hit the QB's or Wr's in todays game. Could you imagine the defenseless WR rule in the days of Tatum and Atkinson? LOL

...not to mention the Steelers Steel Curtain. People forget (or not) what a nasty/dirty secondary they had (Mel Blount), let alone the celebrated front seven. Whew! The bastards.

CloakNNNdagger
07-04-2012, 09:18 AM
Now that's how football is supposed to be played.

Not this panzy brand of football that God'ell is currently forcing down the throats of the fans. You cany really hit the QB's or Wr's in todays game. Could you imagine the defenseless WR rule in the days of Tatum and Atkinson? LOL

In that day, QBs not only had to be skilled, they had to be able to accept the fact that they would routinely be pummeled and have to survive and get up in order to even show their skills. Peyton Manning would not have to be worrying about rehabbing his neck, it would have been torn off like a chicken long time ago. I doubt that all but a handfull of today's QBs, including Schaub, would have been able to survive the attack of THE D's of the day...........for a game, let alone for a season........or even more unthinkable, for a long career.

BTW, QBs in those days could have worn those pink tutus we talk about today........and no one would have dared comment on it to them.

http://www.beyond-the-pale.co.uk/TutuBeard.jpg

infantrycak
07-04-2012, 11:57 AM
QB's have some added protection now but I think the old days are being a bit romanticized. The players are different. Randy White was a Hall of Fame DT at 250 lbs. That's Cushing playing DT and we have complaints the 53 lb heavier Cody needs to be replaced with someone 25+ lbs bigger. Ed "Too Tall" Jones went 270 lbs and was considered a giant freak. Cliff "Captain Crash" Harris, the enforcer who transformed the free safety position and the middle of the field went 175 lbs. Form tackling right to the middle of the body used to be more common as well. Jack Lambert went 220 lbs at MLB. Now we have a WR who would truck him.

QB's today didn't pick the rules which have been put in place. I think it is unfair to them and unrealistic to think they are a bunch of pansies. Having an extra hundred pounds land on you makes a difference.

The Pencil Neck
07-04-2012, 01:37 PM
I was a big fan of his when I was a kid.

CloakNNNdagger
07-05-2012, 09:19 AM
QB's have some added protection now but I think the old days are being a bit romanticized. The players are different. Randy White was a Hall of Fame DT at 250 lbs. That's Cushing playing DT and we have complaints the 53 lb heavier Cody needs to be replaced with someone 25+ lbs bigger. Ed "Too Tall" Jones went 270 lbs and was considered a giant freak. Cliff "Captain Crash" Harris, the enforcer who transformed the free safety position and the middle of the field went 175 lbs. Form tackling right to the middle of the body used to be more common as well. Jack Lambert went 220 lbs at MLB. Now we have a WR who would truck him.

QB's today didn't pick the rules which have been put in place. I think it is unfair to them and unrealistic to think they are a bunch of pansies. Having an extra hundred pounds land on you makes a difference.


I might more readily make the comparison that the puny street fighter in a world without rules could lay a great deal of hurt on opponents twice his size.

Cerberus
07-05-2012, 09:59 AM
...not to mention the Steelers Steel Curtain. People forget (or not) what a nasty/dirty secondary they had (Mel Blount), let alone the celebrated front seven. Whew! The bastards.

Doesn't compare to Ben Davidson, Lyle Alzado, John Matusak, Jack Tatum, George Atkinson, Otis Sistrunk, and gang.

Texan4Ever
07-05-2012, 10:09 AM
QB's have some added protection now but I think the old days are being a bit romanticized. The players are different. Randy White was a Hall of Fame DT at 250 lbs. That's Cushing playing DT and we have complaints the 53 lb heavier Cody needs to be replaced with someone 25+ lbs bigger. Ed "Too Tall" Jones went 270 lbs and was considered a giant freak. Cliff "Captain Crash" Harris, the enforcer who transformed the free safety position and the middle of the field went 175 lbs. Form tackling right to the middle of the body used to be more common as well. Jack Lambert went 220 lbs at MLB. Now we have a WR who would truck him.

QB's today didn't pick the rules which have been put in place. I think it is unfair to them and unrealistic to think they are a bunch of pansies. Having an extra hundred pounds land on you makes a difference.

I might more readily make the comparison that the puny street fighter in a world without rules could lay a great deal of hurt on opponents twice his size.

Also, football is more prevalent than it was way back when. You have players who played in Pee Wee football leagues all the way to college and then the NFL. Guys know a lot more about football than they did in the past and now we have access to nutrition information as well as training programs that weren't available or around back in the days.

E.g.) Brian Orakpo started off at UT at 210-lbs bean pole and by the time he left he was a 260-lbs beast. Probably, all due to nutrition and training techniques.

The Pencil Neck
07-05-2012, 11:40 AM
Also, football is more prevalent than it was way back when. You have players who played in Pee Wee football leagues all the way to college and then the NFL. Guys know a lot more about football than they did in the past and now we have access to nutrition information as well as training programs that weren't available or around back in the days.

E.g.) Brian Orakpo started off at UT at 210-lbs bean pole and by the time he left he was a 260-lbs beast. Probably, all due to nutrition and training techniques.

Yep. "Nutrition & Training Techniques." :fingergun:

drs23
07-06-2012, 10:44 AM
Yep. "Nutrition & Training Techniques." :fingergun:

And just exactly what are you saying here Mr. Neck? :spy:

The Pencil Neck
07-06-2012, 11:43 AM
And just exactly what are you saying here Mr. Neck? :spy:

I'm not saying anything **COUGH**VITAMIN T**COUGH**VITAMIN H**COUGH***.

Sorry, just had some sort of reaction. I'm going to need some corticosteroids to reduce the inflammation.

Texan_Bill
07-09-2012, 12:18 PM
RIP Mr. Davidson.

Mustache Hall of Fame!