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Stemp
06-21-2012, 06:35 PM
Like there was ever any doubt.

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http://www.facebook.com/HoustonTexans

ESAD2-14
06-22-2012, 11:41 AM
Like there was ever any doubt.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/283682_10150874823566314_1432823697_n.jpg

http://www.facebook.com/HoustonTexans

Lots of butt-hurt Cowboy fans commenting on it too, lol. Wish we could play them every year though.

Cjeremy635
06-22-2012, 11:50 AM
I saw when they asked that question the other night, but didn't get to see the results. I'm actually surprised that we won the vote. I know we are the better team, but the Cowboys have a much larger following and they are somehow still managing to ride the coat tails of their former success.

Double Barrel
06-22-2012, 12:09 PM
I saw when they asked that question the other night, but didn't get to see the results. I'm actually surprised that we won the vote. I know we are the better team, but the Cowboys have a much larger following and they are somehow still managing to ride the coat tails of their former success.

The Cowboys do have a much larger following...when the team is winning. Otherwise, their massive bandwagon fanbase does not bother to watch and certainly would not even know about this poll as a result.

drs23
06-22-2012, 12:10 PM
I saw when they asked that question the other night, but didn't get to see the results. I'm actually surprised that we won the vote. I know we are the better team, but the Cowboys have a much larger following and they are somehow still managing to ride the coat tails of their former success.

But the times; they are a changin'. 'Bout time too.

Stemp
06-22-2012, 12:12 PM
The Cowboys do have a much larger following...when the team is winning. Otherwise, their massive bandwagon fanbase does not bother to watch and certainly would not even know about this poll as a result.

Most of their bandwagon fans outside of TX are now Green Bay fans.

CloakNNNdagger
06-22-2012, 12:44 PM
They must finally be getting good information reading this MB.:)


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Published: About an hour ago
by Chris Shelton
RANT It!
courtesy of NFL.com

Who is the best football team in Texas? 78% of fans say the Houston Texans are better than the Dallas Cowboys, according to an NFL.com poll.

I am sure that Jerry Jones is not to happy about that. His team is his baby, sometimes to The Cowboys detriment. Itís tough for one person to be owner and General Manager.

Thatís not a surprising result though, given how the two teams finished last season.

The Texans had their best year ever, winning 10 games in the regular season and playoff game. They also competed well against the Baltimore Ravens with a trip to the AFC Championship on the line without their starting Quarterback on the field.

The Cowboys were just disappointing. Dallas failed to make the playoffs in a year where 9-7 won the Division. The Philadelphia Eagles took a step back and the Washington Redskins were terrible.

So now the dynamic of expectations have changed for these two Texas franchises.

The Texans are expected to be SuperBowl contenders. For sure capturing the AFC South seems almost like a given. The Jacksonville Jaguars and Indianapolis Colts have only taken marginal steps forward, in terms of talent and leadership. The Colts drafted Andrew Luck but his presence will not make them contenders in his first year. The Jaguars donít have the requisite talent to win enough games to compete for a playoff berth.

And the Tennessee Titans are still a long way away from contention. The Texans were better than the Titans with their third string QB.

For the Cowboys, their division is in a totally different situation. The Eagles can and should be better, given Michael Vickís injury situation. Thatís a big if though. Vick has been injury prone for a good part of his career to this point. And the New York Giants are current SuperBowl champions. Naturally they are the favorite to win the NFC East.

The Texans are in an easier division and have more recent playoff success. That bodes well for them.

For once, the expectations are more lofty for the Texans than their big brothers up I45, Iím not sure who that is better for. Maybe Dallas will flourish as underdogs. Maybe itís a good thing for the Cowboys to be out of the limelight.

From a Texans perspective, they now have believers. They will be a sexy SuperBowl pick.

Can they handle the expectations?

CloakNNNdagger
06-22-2012, 12:51 PM
OOPS!.........But never hurts when it's such great news.

Playoffs
06-22-2012, 01:03 PM
Is there a link to the actual poll on NFL.com?

Marcus
06-22-2012, 01:04 PM
I've lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth are for over 10 years. Those people up there could care less about being compared to the team "down south". They look at the Texans about the same way as they look at the city of Houston in general, face down.

As far as expectations go, the higher they are, the harder the fall.

Dutchrudder
06-22-2012, 01:58 PM
I've lived in the Dallas/Fort Worth are for over 10 years. Those people up there could care less about being compared to the team "down south". They look at the Texans about the same way as they look at the city of Houston in general, face down.

As far as expectations go, the higher they are, the harder the fall.

Yeah, I think that's the general consensus. Did Cowboy fans ever hate Houston when the Oilers were around? I wasn't here, so I don't know, but I never got the feeling there was a rivalry between the two.

Anyways, I do think some people take this perceived rivalry too far. I went to the Texans/Browns game last year with some friends and on the way into the stadium we saw a guy wearing a Texans jersey that had the name "DUCK FALLAS" on the back instead of a player. He was holding the hand of his little 8 year old girl too. I really wish I had taken a picture of it, but I just couldn't believe someone would actually make a jersey that said that. What a waste, but we sure did laugh about it.

Lurvinator11
06-22-2012, 02:01 PM
I posted a pic of this on my FB before the results were released on NFL Network. I had a couple of Cowboy fans comment, but when I would rebute, they wouldn't comment. It's nice that we finally are getting recognition over the team up north.

StarStruck
06-22-2012, 02:23 PM
Compared to the last couple of years, the Texans are the best team in Texas, simply the truth. I don't understand the concept that many refer to Cowboys now having bandwagon fans. Usually bandwagon fans follow winners, and the Cowboys have had too many seasons to weed those out. Once we become an excellent team again, then I wouldn't be surprised to see the numbers grow from where they are now. Personally, any success or super bowl would be a great experience for me because I have remained constant through the years.

I was talking to a fellow fan yesterday about a comment that I read once about Texans fan that wished the Cowboys would move to Oklahoma. Of course, with the new stadium being in Texas that won't happen, but if we still had Texas Stadium and some of the issues that other teams have experienced, would it truly matter to the fan base the geographical location. If the fan base was typically north Texas vs. south Texas, I think the competition for fans would be greater, especially if we were in the same conference.

infantrycak
06-22-2012, 02:31 PM
Yeah, I think that's the general consensus. Did Cowboy fans ever hate Houston when the Oilers were around?

I grew up in Richardson, a Dallas suburb, and the answer is Dallas fans either ignored the Oilers or rooted for them as a second team.

ObsiWan
06-22-2012, 04:27 PM
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Double Barrel
06-22-2012, 05:11 PM
Yeah, I think that's the general consensus. Did Cowboy fans ever hate Houston when the Oilers were around? I wasn't here, so I don't know, but I never got the feeling there was a rivalry between the two.

Anyways, I do think some people take this perceived rivalry too far. I went to the Texans/Browns game last year with some friends and on the way into the stadium we saw a guy wearing a Texans jersey that had the name "DUCK FALLAS" on the back instead of a player. He was holding the hand of his little 8 year old girl too. I really wish I had taken a picture of it, but I just couldn't believe someone would actually make a jersey that said that. What a waste, but we sure did laugh about it.

The non-existent "rivalry" is in the minds of Houston football fans.

During the Luv Ya Blue days, the Oilers always came up short, while the Cowboys went to multiple Super Bowls and won a couple of them. Naturally, lots of folks jumped on that bandwagon, even many Houstonians. This caused resentment (and maybe some envy) in many Houston loyalists, so the seeds of hatred were planted.

In addition, NFL Films ran with the "America's Team" label (which was the result of a sports writer casually commenting on tv ratings), which was then embraced by the Cowboys front office. This fertilized the little seed of hate in many fans across the country, and when coupled to Houston fans "little brother" complex, grew a tree that is now multi-generational in it's hatred for the Cowboys. I should know, having lived it and being raised on one of those branches.

Now I'm ambivalent about the Cowboys, but I still never root for them...well, with one exception, of course - when the play the Titans! And that's the thing, I developed a real disgust at Bud Adams and his franchise for obvious reasons, and that just eclipsed any brainwashed hatred that I had for Dallas.

It's really just fun entertainment, though. I don't take any of this stuff seriously.

paycheck71
06-23-2012, 11:44 PM
Agree wholeheartedly with those who don't think there is any rivalry from the Cowboy fans point of view. I lived in Dallas for 13 years before moving away a couple of years ago, and the general consensus of the Cowboy fans towards the Texans is indifference. When they find out you're a Texans fan, they will likely wish you good luck because the Texans are another team from Texas. I also think it's important to differentiate Cowboy fans from Dallas from the bandwagon idiots from around the country, including Houston.

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The Pencil Neck
06-24-2012, 01:05 PM
Like DB said, this whole Oilers/Texans-Cowboys thing doesn't really qualify as a rivalry.

A lot of hardcore Oiler/Texan fans HATE the Cowboys but for it to be a rivalry, the Cowboy fans would have to hate us back. Very few Cowboy fans hate the Oilers/Texans and whatever bad feeling some of them have toward us, it pales in comparison to how they feel about the Redskins, Giants, and Eagles. We don't register to them. We're not that important. And many of them consider us a second team to root for.

I know when I walk around in my Texans gear here in Dallas, I haven't ever met with any animosity.

OTOH, Cowboy fans IN Houston sometimes have a different attitude but that could come from being surrounded by people who hate the Cowboys.

And there's always the Troll factor. Some Cowboy fans don't really hate the Texans/Oilers but they know that we hate them. Cowboy fans are used to being hated by the fans of other teams. And so they'll poke fun at fans of other teams just to get them riled up.

Wolf
06-24-2012, 02:11 PM
I never have understood the "rivalry" between the Cowboys and Oilers or Texans with just being in the same state.

It is one thing to be in the same division and playing each other (aka Raiders/Chargers) ,but hell we aren't in same division or hell even in the same conference.

reminds me of the Astros/Rangers thing, well until after this season.

but if they jab at the Texans, I will throw out the fact that since the Texans have come into existence, They have the same amount of playoff wins as the Cowboys ..:kitten:

Showtime100
06-24-2012, 03:41 PM
For me it's just because I've never liked the Cowboys and have always disliked them. Not because they are Dallas, but that doesn't help, I'm HOUSTON all the way and generally despise other professional Texas teams no matter the sport, but because they are the Cowboys. I rooted for Baltimore in SB V because they were the only team not named 'Cowboys'.

I've hated their way. They were flashy, Hollywood (no pun on Thomas), arrogant, and in Texas. True, I was always green with envy at their success, but by the time they had their success I'd been a hater for quite some time. I just don't like them for who and what they are, even if they were poster boys for a failed franchise I would hate them.

The Rangers are the same. They did some pretty low ball things in the past dating all the way back to when the Houston Colt .45's were born. Long and detailed story so I won't bother with details.

A buddy of mine from high school, a lifelong Houstonian, is a Cowboy fan and caught wind of this poll. Now his FB page is a rage of hate towards the Texans. I mean picture after picture of Cowboy love and Texans hate. (I thought Cowboy fans were above that).

infantrycak
06-24-2012, 05:37 PM
I've hated their way. They were flashy, Hollywood (no pun on Thomas), arrogant, and in Texas.

Seriously, you are accusing the early Landry Cowboys with guys like Bob Lilly, Don Meredith, Chuck Howley and Don Perkins of being flashy and arrogant?

True, I was always green with envy at their success, but by the time they had their success I'd been a hater for quite some time.

"Quite some time" being defined as those well formed football opinions from 0-4 years old? - because after that (when they had their first winning season) the Cowboys went on an in the playoffs streak of 18 appearances in the next 20 years of your life.

A buddy of mine from high school, a lifelong Houstonian, is a Cowboy fan and caught wind of this poll. Now his FB page is a rage of hate towards the Texans. I mean picture after picture of Cowboy love and Texans hate. (I thought Cowboy fans were above that).

Now I will readily admit to not understanding Cowboy fans who are Houstonians other than those who have lived in Dallas and then moved here.

StarStruck
06-25-2012, 12:00 PM
Now I will readily admit to not understanding Cowboy fans who are Houstonians other than those who have lived in Dallas and then moved here.

Mine is attributed to loyalty. I was a Cowboys fan from Day One, and have been since. I have been very angry with them a few times, but never gave up on the team, although I did come pretty close when the team was sold and Tom Landry was fired. It was my Uncle Clarence who reassured me that the Cowboys were going to be "alright" was we sat there watching one of those initial games under new ownership. He frowned as if he felt every tackle when the players were being tossed around like rag dolls, but his resolve was never shaken. I guess I'm somewhat a chip off the old block. I have been in Houston since the 70's and have always supported the Houston teams, in fact supported the Oilers before I left East Texas.

As mentioned even though I have been in Houston for decades, anyone who has asked me where I live I reply Missouri City, but if asked where I'm from, I reply Palestine, Texas.

I understand supporting the team where you reside, but how many passionate Texans fans could in their heart of hearts become as passionate about the Titans if relocated. Ok, probably not fair given the history, how about the Broncos?

infantrycak
06-25-2012, 12:16 PM
I have been in Houston since the 70's and have always supported the Houston teams, in fact supported the Oilers before I left East Texas.

As mentioned even though I have been in Houston for decades, anyone who has asked me where I live I reply Missouri City, but if asked where I'm from, I reply Palestine, Texas.

See I get folks like you - people not from either Dallas or Houston who ended up picking a Texas team or both to support. I don't get folks like my sister-in-law who was born and has spent her whole life here and sticks Cowboys gear on her son. On top of that she goes out of her way to say derogatory things about the Texans. Frankly as someone who grew up a Cowboys fan but is now a Texans fan first it kind of offends me. I can see where other Houstonians would would find it obnoxious. I wonder if that isn't a significant part of the hostility.

GP
06-25-2012, 12:21 PM
For me, it's just the unabashed, undeserved, and heavily biased way that local sports media cover the Cowboys. I mean, they won several Super Bowls and all of a sudden there's no other NFL team in Texas but the Cowboys.

In Lubbock, and and in Amarillo too, the local sports media always lead with the Cowboys, even if the Cowboys are awful, because there's this perception that every person watching the 10 O'clock sports on the local news channels is a Cowboys fan.

The local Fox affiliates in Lubbock and Amarillo carry every single Cowboys game, no matter if the Cowboys are good or not. It's religious.

Texans games? The CBS affiliates only air Texans games according to how well the Texans are doing. This past year marked the first time in the history of the Texans being an NFL team that the Amarillo CBS affiliate aired every single Texans game from start to finish in a season. Prior to 2011, the CBS affiliate would show the first three or four games, then out of thin air we'd be watching Broncos or Dolphins games.

Why Dolphins games? Because ZACH THOMAS was a TTU product and they figured this area would rather watch a former Pampa High School (Pampa is a few miles outside of Amarillo) and TTU product play than to watch a Houston team that's struggling a bit. I kid you not. That was my answer when I called the CBS affiliate.

They said that their CBS headquarters ordered them, decided FOR the local affiliate, which game would draw more eyeballs to the TV...which impacts advertising stats. Much easier to appease the Pampa and Amarillo car dealerships by showing games that feature "the local boy" than to show the struggling Texans.

I understood, but I resented it. The unwavering shoving of Cowboys down my throat is what pisses me off. In addition, I had to buy Sunday Ticket ever year JUST to make sure I didn't flip on the TV one Sunday and find myself watching a sucky Broncos or sucky Dolphins team instead of Texans.

Will the Cowboys EVER do anything to drop a notch in the local sports media's eyes? Probably not. The Cowboys have become a legend, something that can never be killed off. Period. Will the Texans be able to establish itself enough to have my local CBS affiliate consistently, from year to year, air all Texans games throughout each season??? I dunno. But the Cowboys get full-time coverage in everything.

Winning cures all, but I think the Texans are going to have to win a Super Bowl or two before they get exemption status like the Cowboys have.

Showtime100
06-25-2012, 01:01 PM
Seriously, you are accusing the early Landry Cowboys with guys like Bob Lilly, Don Meredith, Chuck Howley and Don Perkins of being flashy and arrogant?

Yeah, funny to think about now. I grew to like these guys in retrospect and after reading a book or two about the Cowboys of that era. I guess when you choose to dislike you weave a tangled web. It is what it is.


"Quite some time" being defined as those well formed football opinions from 0-4 years old? - because after that (when they had their first winning season) the Cowboys went on an in the playoffs streak of 18 appearances in the next 20 years of your life.

Lol, I see your point. All I remember was having a huge dislike for them as I watched Supbowl V against the Baltimore Colts. My friend and I "called" the game usinga newfangled tape recorder he had gotten for Christmas the month before. That puts me at 6 years old, not a lot of "quite some time."


Now I will readily admit to not understanding Cowboy fans who are Houstonians other than those who have lived in Dallas and then moved here.

As to the third comment, this always bugged me too. One HS friend and still lifelong native Houstonian is now a Packer fan. I give him a lot of grief...lol.

infantrycak
06-25-2012, 07:47 PM
All I remember was having a huge dislike for them as I watched Supbowl V against the Baltimore Colts. My friend and I "called" the game usinga newfangled tape recorder he had gotten for Christmas the month before.

If instant replay had existed the Cowboys would have won that game. One of if not the worst officiating botch jobs of all time.

Trivia - that is the only time a player for the non-winning team won MVP, and then he turned it down.

Wolf
06-25-2012, 07:58 PM
Random thought. I wonder how much of a role Bud Adams played in some peoples mind and if some fans got tired of the stunts he pulled compared to what the Cowboys franchise was doing during that era. (http://www.texnews.com/texsports97/oilers063097.html)

Showtime100
06-25-2012, 08:26 PM
If instant replay had existed the Cowboys would have won that game. One of if not the worst officiating botch jobs of all time.

Trivia - that is the only time a player for the non-winning team won MVP, and then he turned it down.

I'll hazard an honest guess, Chuck Howley?

infantrycak
06-25-2012, 08:31 PM
I'll hazard an honest guess, Chuck Howley?

Yup. I can't remember which one but one of the Colts players refused to wear his SB ring as well deeming they hadn't earned it.

Texan_Bill
06-25-2012, 10:08 PM
See I get folks like you - people not from either Dallas or Houston who ended up picking a Texas team or both to support. I don't get folks like my sister-in-law who was born and has spent her whole life here and sticks Cowboys gear on her son. On top of that she goes out of her way to say derogatory things about the Texans. Frankly as someone who grew up a Cowboys fan but is now a Texans fan first it kind of offends me. I can see where other Houstonians would would find it obnoxious. I wonder if that isn't a significant part of the hostility.

Nossir!! I would never find that "obnoxious"! :rolleyes:

Double Barrel
06-26-2012, 11:13 AM
Random thought. I wonder how much of a role Bud Adams played in some peoples mind and if some fans got tired of the stunts he pulled compared to what the Cowboys franchise was doing during that era. (http://www.texnews.com/texsports97/oilers063097.html)

The ironic part was that the NFL wanted to put the new Cowboys franchise in Houston.

But, Bud Adams pulled strings to keep the NFL out of Rice Stadium and they went to Dallas instead.

If only Bud had stayed closer to the state he was born in (Oklahoma) and started his franchise in Ft. Worth!

HoustonFrog
06-26-2012, 03:06 PM
As most of you know I grew up in Ft. Worth and lived there through college. Always a massive, die-hard Cowboy fan but a majority of people I knew rooted for the Oilers as a second team because they supported football in Texas. I was 7 or 8 and was pissed about the Mike Renfro bad call because I hated the Steelers as a Cowboy fan. I had an older brother that went to UT when Earl was there so since we cheered for UT, we cheered for Earl in Houston. Just that easy. My allegiances were always with Cowboys first though. But I never saw it as a rivalry. I even had an Earl jersey.

What made it harder for me when the Texans came was that I had been in Houston and had every intention of feeling the same way like I did the Oilers but there was so much Cowboy hate on Houston radio and the fellow Cowboy callers were so obnoxious that it changed the dynamics. The fans on this board are great but just like there are obnoxious Cowboy fans there are Houston fans whose main goal is to hate Dallas more than cheer for Houston. So there was some resentment on my part for a long time. When people are happier for a Cowboy loss than a Texans win, something is off. I also wouldn't call my fellow Cowboy fans bandwagon. Most are pretty diehard...crazy diehard. But like any success you will have a definite growth spurt in the good times. I mean as a kid I was in the middle of 25 years straight of winning records so people thought that was normal.

Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.

GP
06-26-2012, 03:18 PM
As most of you know I grew up in Ft. Worth and lived there through college. Always a massive, die-hard Cowboy fan but a majority of people I knew rooted for the Oilers as a second team because they supported football in Texas. I was 7 or 8 and was pissed about the Mike Renfro bad call because I hated the Steelers as a Cowboy fan. I had an older brother that went to UT when Earl was there so since we cheered for UT, we cheered for Earl in Houston. Just that easy. My allegiances were always with Cowboys first though. But I never saw it as a rivalry. I even had an Earl jersey.

What made it harder for me when the Texans came was that I had been in Houston and had every intention of feeling the same way like I did the Oilers but there was so much Cowboy hate on Houston radio and the fellow Cowboy callers were so obnoxious that it changed the dynamics. The fans on this board are great but just like there are obnoxious Cowboy fans there are Houston fans whose main goal is to hate Dallas more than cheer for Houston. So there was some resentment on my part for a long time. When people are happier for a Cowboy loss than a Texans win, something is off. I also wouldn't call my fellow Cowboy fans bandwagon. Most are pretty diehard...crazy diehard. But like any success you will have a definite growth spurt in the good times. I mean as a kid I was in the middle of 25 years straight of winning records so people thought that was normal.

Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.

You and I used to get into some good back-and-forths way back in the day.

I miss the days of us kicking each others' ass. :cry2:

HoustonFrog
06-26-2012, 03:21 PM
You and I used to get into some good back-and-forths way back in the day.

I miss the days of us kicking each others' ass. :cry2:

Yeah we did but I've mellowed at 42 and 3 kids :)

I think alot of it was more about disagreements on running the Texans though. So it has worked out!

GP
06-26-2012, 03:46 PM
Yeah we did but I've mellowed at 42 and 3 kids :)

I think alot of it was more about disagreements on running the Texans though. So it has worked out!

All I remember is that I was right and you were wrong. I kid, I kid....

:stirpot:

Showtime100
06-26-2012, 03:52 PM
Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r65/ShowtimeN15580/Emoticons%20II/yelling.gif

WHAAT!!??



Get him outta here. :D

Double Barrel
06-26-2012, 04:05 PM
Anyways, I am not sure I agree with the poll completely. I think the Cowboys will be improved and with the off-season losses I'm not sure what kind of Texans team we will see.

Did I missing something? Have they replaced Jerry Jones? :winky:

HoustonFrog
06-26-2012, 04:10 PM
Did I missing something? Have they replaced Jerry Jones? :winky:

Unfortunately no :beerfunnel:

But I think the torched secondary will be upgraded enough to allow 2-3 more wins and make the playoffs.

GP
06-26-2012, 04:13 PM
I do think that the NFC East is the most (overall) fun division to watch.

Each of the four teams have a loooooooooong history of animosity between one another. Maybe the NFC North is another similar division.

But still, every divisional game in the NFC East is a grind. Makes for good TV. :popcorn:

Double Barrel
06-26-2012, 04:37 PM
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.

The AFC north is fun to watch with the Steelers/Ravens. But the Browns and Bengals are just crap teams, so that division is not quite as compelling as their NFC counterpart. The NFC north should be a lot of fun to watch this year, as the Lions and Bears (oh my!) appear to be ready to battle and give the Packers a run for their money.

The AFC east has been fun the past decade, especially now with the Jets being somewhat consistent and really hating the Patriots. Obviously the Dolphins and Bills have been sucky, so not quite on par with the NFC east.

The one division that I just don't care about is the NFC west. After they put up a 7-9 division winner, that division is dead to me. I got nothing for the 49ers, either.

Damn, talking about football has give me 'the itch' now. I try to suppress it for 6 months after the Super Bowl, and do a pretty good job of it. But now training camp is around the corner, and it's one of those anticipations that is hard to deny. I'm ready for some football!!

Showtime100
06-26-2012, 04:45 PM
Training camp is really sneaking up on us. I've seen some Fantasy Football League talk around here the last week or so and that alone was enough to give me that "kid on Christmas Eve' feeling.

Let the games begin!!

HoustonFrog
06-26-2012, 04:46 PM
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.

The AFC north is fun to watch with the Steelers/Ravens. But the Browns and Bengals are just crap teams, so that division is not quite as compelling as their NFC counterpart. The NFC north should be a lot of fun to watch this year, as the Lions and Bears (oh my!) appear to be ready to battle and give the Packers a run for their money.

The AFC east has been fun the past decade, especially now with the Jets being somewhat consistent and really hating the Patriots. Obviously the Dolphins and Bills have been sucky, so not quite on par with the NFC east.

The one division that I just don't care about is the NFC west. After they put up a 7-9 division winner, that division is dead to me. I got nothing for the 49ers, either.

Damn, talking about football has give me 'the itch' now. I try to suppress it for 6 months after the Super Bowl, and do a pretty good job of it. But now training camp is around the corner, and it's one of those anticipations that is hard to deny. I'm ready for some football!!

YUP!!I've been itching big time as the updates on whay might be camp battles, etc are escalating between pundits on Twitter and all. Especially rankings on fantasy football talks. I'm not a big NBA guy at all so I've been in a no man's zone...actually watched more golf than anything lately. So I need football.

Double Barrel
06-26-2012, 06:13 PM
Training camp is really sneaking up on us. I've seen some Fantasy Football League talk around here the last week or so and that alone was enough to give me that "kid on Christmas Eve' feeling.

Let the games begin!!

yep! It's not often as adults that we get that "kid on Christmas Eve" feeling, so I revel in it when it happens.

YUP!!I've been itching big time as the updates on whay might be camp battles, etc are escalating between pundits on Twitter and all. Especially rankings on fantasy football talks. I'm not a big NBA guy at all so I've been in a no man's zone...actually watched more golf than anything lately. So I need football.

NFL is the only sport that I regularly watch, so I'm wandering the desert in the off-season. I could not care less about basketball or baseball.

It does help me get stuff done, though! The fall comes and my Sundays are spoken for. My wife knew she would be a football widow when we met, but I do not think she quite understood that she would be a football widow for the rest of her life! :D

GP
06-26-2012, 06:26 PM
NFL is the only sport that I regularly watch, so I'm wandering the desert in the off-season. I could not care less about basketball or baseball.

It does help me get stuff done, though! The fall comes and my Sundays are spoken for. My wife knew she would be a football widow when we met, but I do not think she quite understood that she would be a football widow for the rest of her life! :D

Same here.

When I was in high school, I followed everything. NCAA football and basketball, NFL, NBA, MLB. Us kids were always watching sports and discussing it at school the next day...every day...all year long. Sports card trading, too. It was an obsession.

As I became older, with more "real life" to handle...my passion died for everything but NFL. I catch a few NCAA football games, and my alma mater West Texas A&M University home games here nearby, but that's it.

I'm Texans 24-7-365. I don't paint my room and collect hat pins and stuff, but I come here every day. I check the various NFL sites every day. Only MMA comes close to challenging my dedication and time I give to NFL.

False Start
06-26-2012, 06:54 PM
he results surprise me. I though the Texans would win, but I thought it would be something like 56/44. Its a very cool sight though. :stonecold: :texflag:

drs23
06-27-2012, 11:06 AM
My wife looked at me like I was silly while watching TV this weekend. The promos came on for the upcoming "all new episodes for the fall" and I let out a rebel yell "HELL YEAH!" She looked at me like I was silly while telling me "You don't even like that show". I had to explain to her that the keyword was "fall" and that means the upcoming NFL season and that's what my world revolves around. Then she got it. :D

thunderkyss
06-27-2012, 12:17 PM
I live in East Texas..... Southeast. There is a very strong football following around here. I live in Port Arthur, Nederland, Port Neches/Groves are very close. We've always supported each other, when we weren't playing each other. It really makes for a busy play-off season, we'd go watch PN-G, Nederland, & now Memorial, & see who goes the farthest.

I didn't get into the NFL, until after high school. & pretty much took the same approach. I root for the Texas teams. I don't consider myself a Cowboy fan & I love to get the Cowboy fans riled up (their buttons are so easy to push.... especially since the Romo era started :evil:)

But I don't hate the Cowboys. I follow them almost as much as I follow the Texans. I used to post on their forum just as much as I do here, but they don't talk about as much football as we do. There's always some kinda drama over there, more drama than football.

But, being here in Southeast Texas, we've got a bunch of Saints fans as well. 30-40% of the people I work with live in Lousiana.. my boss lives in Louisiana.

So I follow them too, LSU as well....

But I've always felt more aligned with Houston, don't know why. I always thought I'd be living in Houston.

The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.

The AFC north is fun to watch with the Steelers/Ravens. But the Browns and Bengals are just crap teams, so that division is not quite as compelling as their NFC counterpart.

Scooter
06-28-2012, 04:29 AM
Same here.

When I was in high school, I followed everything. NCAA football and basketball, NFL, NBA, MLB. Us kids were always watching sports and discussing it at school the next day...every day...all year long. Sports card trading, too. It was an obsession.

As I became older, with more "real life" to handle...my passion died for everything but NFL. I catch a few NCAA football games, and my alma mater West Texas A&M University home games here nearby, but that's it.

I'm Texans 24-7-365. I don't paint my room and collect hat pins and stuff, but I come here every day. I check the various NFL sites every day. Only MMA comes close to challenging my dedication and time I give to NFL.

likewise. never was much of a college fan, but i was on top of every houston sports team. hakeem and the killer B's made it easy to love the home town team when my interest in the sport waned. loved the oilers before i understood football, and will forever hate the bills and john elway (i still see him scrambling left as i yell pre snap that he's running).

i even became a cowboys and steelers fan as a kid ... cowboys because my dad was a fan and they were essentially the hometown team at the time, and steelers just because it was fused into my head with the oilers vs steelers games - "THIS. IS. FOOTBALL!" i wouldnt care if we never won another game, if i could have 16 oiler/steeler games a year i'd be forever content ... the talent and violence those two shared was a thing of beauty.

now that's narrowed down to the texans. i support my houston teams, but my sports enthusiasm begins and ends with the texans.

infantrycak
06-28-2012, 01:08 PM
The rivalries between the Cowboys/Giants/Eagles/Redskins has to be one of the best out of all the divisions. All four teams have history with each other and seem to really dislike the other teams. And even when a team is having a losing season, they always seem to play up to division opponents.

Generally agreed. But I will say, and this should be appreciated by Oilers fans, the Eagles were almost a non factor in the 70's and 80's - the fourth big rival was the Steelers. Man that was some great football. Doomsday Defense against the Steel Curtain. Staubach against Bradshaw - two guys who loved to improvise.