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handswarmer
06-10-2012, 06:04 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

Fili
06-10-2012, 06:11 PM
A 0-16 record.

Wolf6151
06-10-2012, 06:11 PM
A guy with great straight line speed that can run a great post route but that's about it. He doesn't know how to make sharp cuts on his routes so separation from defenders is an issue. He also shy's away from contact and doesn't like taking hits. He blocks reasonably well for the run game. You can expect a highlight reel catch to be followed up by 3-4 bonehead plays and other games where he just disappears entirely. He's a track guy playing football.

Rey
06-10-2012, 06:12 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

My guess is he'll have some good moments, but mostly he'll be inconsistent.

Maybe being cut will help him wake up some though.

Texas T
06-10-2012, 06:12 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

You can expect a lot of potential and very little reality.
He has had some real highlight catches but for every one of those count on 7 or 8 silly drops when the ball is in his hands.

ckhouston
06-10-2012, 06:17 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

Please never ever bring his name to this board again.

In my opinion, he cost us a ring.

Mods can this please be moved? Has nothing to do with the Texans.

ObsiWan
06-10-2012, 06:39 PM
didn't you see this tag?

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRX5Gw9Vy4iMKz-rBzrixV_izy2Waw09bBF35cMg7i6C15RuOII

Corrosion
06-10-2012, 06:50 PM
You can expect him to scare the crap outa you every time he touches the ball .... The way he flails his arms about while running with the ball is asking for trouble.


You can expect him to drop easy catches and make boneheaded mistakes.

Two games against the Ravens come to mind - the OT game year before last he dropped what would have been the winning TD .... and in the playoff game he gave the Ravens a gift TD with that muffed punt.


He'll also run 50 yards east to west returning punts gaining 3 yards ....


Im glad he went elsewhere .... You'll wish he was elsewhere at some point during this season. :lol:


Hope we meet again in the playoffs and he gives back the gift.

infantrycak
06-10-2012, 07:03 PM
People are correctly identifying problems but being overly harsh IMO. He is a very good open field runner whether it be on punt returns or after a catch. He is a danger to take one all the way at any time. He has problems making catches. He has problems not just accepting he is going to be tackled at times and taking what he can get (applies to both returns and passes) so you will get some stupid looking -3 yard returns and then he will bust one for 50 yards when you thought he was going to be nailed for 3. He is a poor route runner - rounds them off and seems to have issues with depth as in break at 10 v. break at 13 leaving the QB looking like he threw a bad pass. He is an above average run blocker.

He has all the physical ability to be a star but can't seem to put it together and I know from someone close Andre Johnson has put a lot of effort into trying to get JJ to put it together. Not sure y'all have someone who can be a better mentor than AJ and make it click for JJ.

DX-TEX
06-10-2012, 07:11 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880927/jacoby.gif

And running sideline to sidline and not north/south.

281
06-10-2012, 07:11 PM
disappointment.

ckhouston
06-10-2012, 07:24 PM
he is a head case

fify

XI CMURDER IX
06-10-2012, 07:26 PM
The best east/west returner in the land.

TEXANRED
06-10-2012, 07:37 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

What to expect from JJ? He is streaky and inconsistent. He will make plays that will make you think he has arrived and is the next top receiver or he will make you want to tar and feather him and set him and fire.

JJ is a role player nothing more. If you end up needing to rely on him you are in trouble.

PapaL
06-10-2012, 07:48 PM
I don't know what's worse; his hands or decision making. I fully expect to see him cut...and I use to like him. Just saying.

Corrosion
06-10-2012, 07:53 PM
inconsistent..

Best description in one word. :bravo:

eriadoc
06-10-2012, 07:55 PM
Get used to disappointment.

He never figured out that the ball is precious.

CloakNNNdagger
06-10-2012, 08:13 PM
http://static.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2011-08-30/Texans_Jacoby_Jones_catch_on_ground_2.800w_600h.jp g

STFU! I don't care if it did bounce off my head.....It's mine now!:kubepalm:


http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/65/fullj.a7ea6eb2a41733e07f506a14cee890c9/ap-201109111437526763027.jpg

If he does it with us............I'm gonna KILL the little M..... F.....!!!!!!

thunderkyss
06-10-2012, 08:44 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.

Rey
06-10-2012, 08:57 PM
I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.

I agree with that.

bckey
06-10-2012, 09:06 PM
Look up the 63 page "Jacoby's Got To Go" thread on here and you will have all the information about him you will ever need.

Big Lou
06-10-2012, 09:59 PM
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/880927/jacoby.gif

And running sideline to sidline and not north/south.

I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......

NCTexan
06-10-2012, 10:05 PM
I still don't understand how you can tackle a guy that doesn't have his hands on the ball......

The coverage guys knew he muffed it yet he out right tackled him.

Doesn't change a dumb ass decision though.......

While agree Jacoby was stupid I was also wondering how there wasn't a flag on the Ravens there.

infantrycak
06-10-2012, 10:12 PM
While agree Jacoby was stupid I was also wondering how there wasn't a flag on the Ravens there.

I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?

Playoffs
06-10-2012, 10:28 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.
Just get behind him and hope he overcomes and achieves. Sometimes a change of environment makes all the difference.

CloakNNNdagger
06-10-2012, 10:33 PM
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?

Make that unanimous.

dc_txtech
06-10-2012, 10:35 PM
Forgive me for not remembering the details but,

There was a game against the Titans in Tennessee about 2 years ago and late in the 4th quarter Jacoby coughed up the ball on a punt that he fielded around the 5 yard line and Tennessee recovered. Due to some weird rule that nobody knew about at the time the Texans maintained possession and won the game.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe.

In a 2011 regular season Texans game Jacoby fielded a punt off the bounce around the 15 yard line and had a very nice return. Again forgive me for not remembering the exact game but I remember cursing him for fielding the ball in the first place even though he had a good return.

Jacoby avoided catastrophe again.

In the playoffs he made the same mistake he has made over and over. This time it hurt us enough to get rid of him and I couldn't be happier. There is a reason we all held our breath when Jones returned a punt.

As a receiver I think Jones is extremely limited. Like everyone says, he might make a big play or two but he will also drop passes and disappear completely at times.

SheTexan
06-10-2012, 10:37 PM
JJ reminds me of a little kid in a man's body. One that hasn't learned how to focus, and has an attention span of about 3 sec. IF he ever grows up he just MIGHT be a decent player. Unfortuately, he'll be much to old when that day comes!:)

ObsiWan
06-10-2012, 10:40 PM
People are correctly identifying problems but being overly harsh IMO. He is a very good open field runner whether it be on punt returns or after a catch. He is a danger to take one all the way at any time. He has problems making catches. He has problems not just accepting he is going to be tackled at times and taking what he can get (applies to both returns and passes) so you will get some stupid looking -3 yard returns and then he will bust one for 50 yards when you thought he was going to be nailed for 3. He is a poor route runner - rounds them off and seems to have issues with depth as in break at 10 v. break at 13 leaving the QB looking like he threw a bad pass. He is an above average run blocker.

He has all the physical ability to be a star but can't seem to put it together and I know from someone close Andre Johnson has put a lot of effort into trying to get JJ to put it together. Not sure y'all have someone who can be a better mentor than AJ and make it click for JJ.

I think he's the perfect #3 for you guys. You have Boldin, you have Smith, no one is going to be expecting Jacoby to be your #1 receiver. But he'll do his job, get open, attract attention away from Boldin & Smith, help out your vertical game, & block downfield, helping to spring some big runs.

I wouldn't be looking to put him on my fantasy team, he's a #3, no more, no less.

These two assessments are as close to objective as you'll get around here. Many Texans fans think he SINGLE-HANDEDLY cost us the playoff game against you guys. While Jones' early game screw up certainly didn't help us, I think that's a really weak excuse [three INTs!!]. But that's a totally different conversation. I only bring it up to let you know that those viewpoints are the reason you may not get an objective assessment on Jones from most of my MB buddies.

Now, having said that, my earlier post still stands.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRX5Gw9Vy4iMKz-rBzrixV_izy2Waw09bBF35cMg7i6C15RuOII

He's had his shot here. It's time for us to upgrade.

NCTexan
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?

Make that unanimous.

I guess that's what we all figured.

dc_txtech
06-10-2012, 10:41 PM
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?

After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.

Honoring Earl 34
06-10-2012, 10:47 PM
[QUOTE=CloakNNNdagger;1967021]http://static.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2011-08-30/Texans_Jacoby_Jones_catch_on_ground_2.800w_600h.jp g

Exhibit A ... Jacoby has hands the size of a Garo Yeprimian .

TexansBull
06-10-2012, 10:54 PM
http://chzgifs.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/funny-gifs-facepalm-and-leave.gif

Still a little sour about it.

TdotTexas2Step
06-10-2012, 10:59 PM
When plays like that happen, I've always looked at it like when a pass is tipped, and a defender is given clearance to lay anyone out near the ball because it's been touched.

281
06-10-2012, 11:02 PM
[QUOTE=CloakNNNdagger;1967021]http://static.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2011-08-30/Texans_Jacoby_Jones_catch_on_ground_2.800w_600h.jp g

Exhibit A ... Jacoby has hands the size of a Garo Yeprimian .

yup, he's got those hands from the burger king commercial. i guess that's what happens when you grow from 5'7" to 6'2" in college...

TejasTom
06-10-2012, 11:13 PM
After my last post I read yours. Wasn't the decision in the Titans game I talked about that you could not interfere with the returner until the ball hit the ground?

Seems contradictory what happened in the Ravens game and what happened in Titans game I mentioned.

In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.

dc_txtech
06-10-2012, 11:17 PM
In the Titan's game he called for fair catch, which gives him rights to the ball until it touches the ground.

In the Raven's game he did not call for a fair catch.

Ah, thank you for that. He still muffed the punt badly in the Titans game though.

Corrosion
06-10-2012, 11:22 PM
I have wondered that as well. Once he muffs the ball doesn't that tackle become a block in the back?

No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.

infantrycak
06-10-2012, 11:27 PM
No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.

I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.

Corrosion
06-11-2012, 12:30 AM
I realize possession was not established yet but gunners and other ST members are not allowed to just run down field and tackle people. He got outright tackled and from the rear. That dude full on wrap tackled JJ. There's a reason you don't see that all over the field on kicks/punts.

The defender hesitated giving him opportunity to make the catch , the bobble comes a split second before contact .... I think its a good play on the defenders part.

You have to take into consideration that the defenders job is to tackle the guy with the ball .... For all he knows , JJ caught it and he's tackling him. Kind of a heat of the moment thing , you cant really make a call like that.

JJ had no business catching that ball .... not even a fair catch at that point the defender was on top of him.

Rey
06-11-2012, 12:36 AM
No as original contact is made after the bobble and resulted in him not catching it at all .... if he's a reciever trying to catch it you do the same thing. Good play IMO.

Right and it's the same thing with qb's fumbling a snap.

Once someone fumbles or tips a live ball they are fair game for that short window while the scramble for the ball ensues. Hard for a defender to know if that player has the ball or not, and even if they don't you're told to tackle the guy anyway.

I don't know if there is any rule on it though.

infantrycak
06-11-2012, 12:40 AM
The defender hesitated giving him opportunity to make the catch , the bobble comes a split second before contact .... I think its a good play on the defenders part.

You have to take into consideration that the defenders job is to tackle the guy with the ball .... For all he knows , JJ caught it and he's tackling him. Kind of a heat of the moment thing , you cant really make a call like that.

JJ had no business catching that ball .... not even a fair catch at that point the defender was on top of him.

I agree JJ had no business attempting what he did. And I am not claiming some kind of flagrant foul which was missed. But I do think the wrap up tackle was an uncalled foul. Not a fair catch foul because JJ didn't signal for one. Just a block in the back foul. They still would have gotten the ball, it would have just been moved back.

Corrosion
06-11-2012, 01:47 AM
I agree JJ had no business attempting what he did. And I am not claiming some kind of flagrant foul which was missed. But I do think the wrap up tackle was an uncalled foul. Not a fair catch foul because JJ didn't signal for one. Just a block in the back foul. They still would have gotten the ball, it would have just been moved back.

I see your point , thing is the timing of it .... when he bobbles the ball , thats about the time he gets hit causing the fumble .... its a bang bang play.

Is it a block or is it a tackle .... ball carrier bobbles the ball , he's still the ball carrier .... I think thats what it boils down to.

Had the ball already been on the ground , I would agree .... Its all about the timing of the events within the play.

escrimador
06-11-2012, 02:38 AM
A serviceable #3 WR that will stretch the field. Maybe the change of scenery will do him some good. Funnily enough, I was playing Madden with updated rosters yesterday and he torched Jonathan Joseph for a 67 yard touchdown :kubepalm: I shouldn't have done that eight man blitz :wadepalm:

welsh texan
06-11-2012, 06:01 AM
I don't know if anyone else feels the same way, but I wouldn't be that surprised if Jacoby became a really good receiver in a different system. I don't think Kubiak is that good at game planning for guys like him who don't really have the intelligence to execute an extremely complicated playbook, but who can do a few simple things really well if he's told to concentrate on them.

That said, it isn't as if I'm going to be upset that we didn't keep hold of him even if he does make a good contribution, it was never going to happen in Houston anyway.

Honoring Earl 34
06-11-2012, 09:14 AM
[QUOTE=CloakNNNdagger;1967021]http://static.culturemap.com/site_media/uploads/photos/2011-08-30/Texans_Jacoby_Jones_catch_on_ground_2.800w_600h.jp g

Exhibit A ... Jacoby has hands the size of a Garo Yeprimian .

http://cdn.everyjoe.com/files/2011/10/andre-johnson-surgery.jpg

Thorn
06-11-2012, 09:31 AM
I'm glad Jacoby Jones is gone so I don't have to worry about him during a game anymore. My blood pressure goes up 20 points during a game when he's in it. I don't care if he does good or bad for the Ravens, I'm just glad he's gone. I seriously doubt Jones, as a Raven, is going to come back and bite our ass. But, if it happens, so be it. It wouldn't be the first time and it most certainly won't be the last.

Texan_Bill
06-11-2012, 09:42 AM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

What can you expect??

A lot of this: :facepalm:

ckhouston
06-11-2012, 09:49 AM
Jacoby Jones is not a Texan.

drunkcookie
06-11-2012, 10:09 AM
I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup


That was less of Jacoby getting behind Reed and more of Reed and the Baltimore D respecting the run game... It was the system more than anything else...

The play that sticks out in my mind is the last play of the game against Oakland this year... Ball's at/inside the 5.. Schaub breaks pocket and runs toward the left side... Jacoby's just playing grab ass with the DB watching things happen as Schaub's running right at him... JJ should have at least faded back to the corner for a jump ball...even if it were highly contested it would have been better than Schaub running or just throwing it to an open spot hoping Jacoby might snap out of it... It's not that Jacoby's lazy, or doesn't care, he just gets caught up and loses focus... In this case, I think he was planning on blocking if Schaub chose to run, but he should have been aware he was in no position to block for Schaub, and great position to fade back...

Maybe a change of scenery helps Jacoby, and i hope it does. A lot of talent there, just needs more direction...

mussop
06-11-2012, 10:33 AM
3 or 4 very good Plays and 2 or 3 plays where you go WTF!!!!!!

Blake
06-11-2012, 11:12 AM
I agree JJ had no business attempting what he did. And I am not claiming some kind of flagrant foul which was missed. But I do think the wrap up tackle was an uncalled foul. Not a fair catch foul because JJ didn't signal for one. Just a block in the back foul. They still would have gotten the ball, it would have just been moved back.

I think to call a block in the back the ref would have had to assume the gunner knew Jones muffed the punt. It was a pretty bang bang play and I think you have to give the gunner the benefit of the doubt. I also feel that if the ball is touched, returners are fare game just like WR's on offense.

Blake
06-11-2012, 11:15 AM
As far as the OP is concerned, I think his tape speaks for itself. He is as unreliable as they get. Yes he will take 1 to the house in a blue moon, but the cons outweight the pro's by a hefty margin here. I am not sure what position yall expect him to play, but I see him as TC fodder for you.

OzzO
06-11-2012, 01:55 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

You just wanted to start another 63 page thread didn't you?

:kubepalm:

read this Jacoby's gotta go (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87759) thread, then you can ask.

Agree with above... relo this to the NFL section.

The Medic01
06-11-2012, 06:22 PM
A serviceable #3 WR that will stretch the field. Maybe the change of scenery will do him some good. Funnily enough, I was playing Madden with updated rosters yesterday and he torched Jonathan Joseph for a 67 yard touchdown :kubepalm: I shouldn't have done that eight man blitz :wadepalm:

Wait how did you get updated rosters. My rosters won't update with all the lates free agency moves.

Texecutioner
06-11-2012, 06:55 PM
Please never ever bring his name to this board again.




Mods can this please be moved? Has nothing to do with the Texans.

The guy was not trolling and was just asking a question about what to expect out of an ex player here. Nothing wrong with the thread or the question from the Ravens fan. If you didn't like the thread choice, you didn't need to click the thread and involve yourself in it.



In my opinion, he cost us a ring.


Lol! So it was just automatic that the Texans would have won that game any way, beaten the Patriots, and than smacked the Giants around? I've got news for you, we weren't in the SB in that game against the Ravens. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting that TJ yates threw like 3 or 4 picks in that game. That game wasn't all on Jacoby Jones.

TimeKiller
06-11-2012, 07:13 PM
Jacoby Jones in review:

I would gladly give back his few punt TD returns over the years, whatever highlights he has made for a guy that will make the right decisions. Athletic potential like no other but the guy is all legs, no hands and no brains. He's literally like a pair of legs just running about trying to catch footballs.

Hagar
06-11-2012, 07:21 PM
A guy with great straight line speed that can run a great post route but that's about it. He doesn't know how to make sharp cuts on his routes so separation from defenders is an issue. He also shy's away from contact and doesn't like taking hits. He blocks reasonably well for the run game. You can expect a highlight reel catch to be followed up by 3-4 bonehead plays and other games where he just disappears entirely. He's a track guy playing football.

This is a fair analysis.

JJ has the one thing you can't teach, speed. As long as he has that, someone will give him a chance based on his potential.

I hope a change of scenery will do him some good.

Good luck.

escrimador
06-11-2012, 07:44 PM
Wait how did you get updated rosters. My rosters won't update with all the lates free agency moves.

I only have a PC so I play Madden 08...yeah, I know, no need to say it Anyway, if you happen to be in the same boat, there's a devoted following for updating the game since it was the last Madden PC game made (footballidiot.com/forum). You can also find continuously updated fan made rosters for the other versions on the internet somewhere.

CloakNNNdagger
06-11-2012, 07:50 PM
I'm glad Jacoby Jones is gone so I don't have to worry about him during a game anymore. My blood pressure goes up 20 points during a game when he's in it. I don't care if he does good or bad for the Ravens, I'm just glad he's gone. I seriously doubt Jones, as a Raven, is going to come back and bite our ass. But, if it happens, so be it. It wouldn't be the first time and it most certainly won't be the last.

Even if he didn't muff it, you needed to watch games he was in with a box of TUMS by your side. Remember, Pavlov's dog experiments?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rbo6lKZrMT8/ToGfL3KhJzI/AAAAAAAAAkA/Tvab8rXM-k4/s1600/dog-training-18.jpg

Texan_Bill
06-11-2012, 08:06 PM
He's a track guy playing football.

Renaldo Nehemiah v2.0 ???

kingh99
06-11-2012, 08:09 PM
Jacoby's a guy who doesn't trust others enough to be any good. Since he's a mental midget, trust becomes a big deal because he can't be retrained. His habits cannot be reprogrammed.

What do I mean by trust? You ever play catch and not run out your pattern because you think you are open and can just stand there or slow down because you are afraid you'll outrun the throw? That's Jacoby. He's just a dumb guy who doesn't finish his routes.

Texan_Bill
06-11-2012, 08:45 PM
What can I expect from jacoby Jones?

A guy going into his 6th season still making stupid decisions that a rookie would make. Dude never "figured it out"...

Then again, I'm sure that there is plenty of love for Jacoby in Maryland!!! :weneedajacobyfacepalmhere:

infantrycak
06-11-2012, 08:53 PM
JJ has the one thing you can't teach, speed.

Not really directed at you, but spinning off your comment - folks often talk about JJ's speed when we have a faster WR on the team - AJ. JJ is twitchier than AJ who is a long strider but JJ is not faster. AJ won 60 and 100 meter dash Big East championships. JJ won nada. AJ was recorded at 4.27 in college. He has been a narrow second in the fastest man competition each time he has gone to the Pro Bowl. I'm sure his speed has fallen off some but his running style makes people underestimate his speed.

CloakNNNdagger
06-11-2012, 08:59 PM
A loving good-bye from Kubiak.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKzGd1CCYKaQAZoG_WI9MB9ZQUxAKgp xqZGF0FkI28UYLO9CgsWQ

Texan_Bill
06-11-2012, 09:04 PM
Not really directed at you, but spinning off your comment - folks often talk about JJ's speed when we have a faster WR on the team - AJ. JJ is twitchier than AJ who is a long strider but JJ is not faster. AJ won 60 and 100 meter dash Big East championships. JJ won nada. AJ was recorded at 4.27 in college. He has been a narrow second in the fastest man competition each time he has gone to the Pro Bowl. I'm sure his speed has fallen off some but his running style makes people underestimate his speed.

BOOyAH!!!

steelbtexan
06-11-2012, 09:06 PM
I expect JJ to get his drink on in Baltimore. Party on JJ.

Good riddance, the end only came about 2 seasons to late. Gary should have kicked him off the team when he was late for the flight to Jacksonville 2 seasons ago.

Texan_Bill
06-11-2012, 09:12 PM
I expect JJ to get his drink on in Baltimore. Party on JJ.

Good riddance, the end only came about 2 seasons to late. Gary should have kicked him off the team when he was late for the flight to Jacksonville 2 seasons ago.

Besides your back-handed slap out Kubiak, I agree with everything else.

TdotTexas2Step
06-11-2012, 10:15 PM
OP, keep in mind a lot of these posts should come with the disclaimer that a lot of Texans staff and fans were expecting him to be the #2 to Andre and a serviceable #1 should Andre have gone down. And it was extremely frustrating to see him waste all those chances we gave him.

With that said, I'm assuming Baltimore fans will have lower expectations, and for the decreased role I'm sure he'll see with the Ravens, he'll be more than adequate.

You also don't have to waste a draft pick or go through the whole process of discovering who he really is.

NastyNate
06-11-2012, 10:42 PM
The guy was not trolling and was just asking a question about what to expect out of an ex player here. Nothing wrong with the thread or the question from the Ravens fan. If you didn't like the thread choice, you didn't need to click the thread and involve yourself in it.






Lol! So it was just automatic that the Texans would have won that game any way, beaten the Patriots, and than smacked the Giants around? I've got news for you, we weren't in the SB in that game against the Ravens. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting that TJ yates threw like 3 or 4 picks in that game. That game wasn't all on Jacoby Jones.



Exactly, heaven forbid you forget about TJ Yates throwing three picks *in all honestly should have been 5-6*

ckhouston is always good for a headscratcher. He reminds me of that Lewis Black joke about brain aneurysms. "If it wasn't for my horse, I wouldn't have spent that year in college".

steelbtexan
06-11-2012, 11:03 PM
Besides your back-handed slap out Kubiak, I agree with everything else.

Didn't mean for that to be a backhanded slap at Gary.

It was just MHO.

Big Lou
06-12-2012, 11:10 AM
OP, keep in mind a lot of these posts should come with the disclaimer that a lot of Texans staff and fans were expecting him to be the #2 to Andre and a serviceable #1 should Andre have gone down. And it was extremely frustrating to see him waste all those chances we gave him.

With that said, I'm assuming Baltimore fans will have lower expectations, and for the decreased role I'm sure he'll see with the Ravens, he'll be more than adequate.

You also don't have to waste a draft pick or go through the whole process of discovering who he really is.

Why would they do that? He has already done more for the Ravens than the Texans via the last game in Baltimore. J/K

But seriously they are scheduled to give him the key to the city of Baltimore on Thursday.............

Double Barrel
06-12-2012, 12:09 PM
What can I expect from jacoby Jones?

Not sure what you should expect on the field, but off the field you should expect the Ravens logo in a fly haircut:

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/2474744/480/Photo-Edits/Jacoby-Jones-wallpaper.jpg?v0

HoustonFrog
06-12-2012, 12:15 PM
You should expect to hear his name and the word "fumble" used in approximately 6 games this year.

handswarmer
06-12-2012, 02:44 PM
The guy was not trolling and was just asking a question about what to expect out of an ex player here. Nothing wrong with the thread or the question from the Ravens fan. If you didn't like the thread choice, you didn't need to click the thread and involve yourself in it.

Lol! So it was just automatic that the Texans would have won that game any way, beaten the Patriots, and than smacked the Giants around? I've got news for you, we weren't in the SB in that game against the Ravens. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting that TJ yates threw like 3 or 4 picks in that game. That game wasn't all on Jacoby Jones.

Thanks Tex- the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to hear what the fans had to say. I know the writers have to say. Fans tell the truth.

Much appreciate the info Texans Fans! Thanks!

TexanSam
06-12-2012, 02:50 PM
Then again, I'm sure that there is plenty of love for Jacoby in Maryland!!! :weneedajacobyfacepalmhere:

His hand would slip from his forehead if we had one

jaayteetx
06-12-2012, 02:59 PM
You should expect to hear his name and the word "fumble" used in approximately 6 games this year.

I am in now way a Jacoby fan, but that is not a fair statement. Here are his career stats...http://www.nfl.com/player/jacobyjones/2495651/careerstats
The guy hasn't realized his potential and certainly needs to mature both on and off the field but some of the stuff he is being labeled with ain't right.

Texecutioner
06-12-2012, 05:55 PM
Thanks Tex- the reason I asked the question is because I wanted to hear what the fans had to say. I know the writers have to say. Fans tell the truth.

Much appreciate the info Texans Fans! Thanks!

No problem man, and welcome to this board. It's nice to have other fans come in here and give a different perspective on our team and their team.

And to answer your question of what you could expect, well Jacoby is very talented as far as his straight line speed. His route running skills are pretty poor and all he'll ever amount to is a deep threat which you guys do actually need right now. He has very poor hands though, so occassionally he'll have a big drop. He lacks focus a lot as well and that's always been his biggest problem. When he does get the ball in space though, he is damn hard to stop and can become a HR threat instantly. I wouldn't expect much out of him, other than a few huge plays that might go for some TD's.

ckhouston
06-12-2012, 06:24 PM
The guy was not trolling and was just asking a question about what to expect out of an ex player here. Nothing wrong with the thread or the question from the Ravens fan. If you didn't like the thread choice, you didn't need to click the thread and involve yourself in it.


Never said he was trolling, just that this is posted in the wrong section, because JJ is no longer a member of the Houston Texans organization.

Lol! So it was just automatic that the Texans would have won that game any way, beaten the Patriots, and than smacked the Giants around? I've got news for you, we weren't in the SB in that game against the Ravens. And you seem to be conveniently forgetting that TJ yates threw like 3 or 4 picks in that game. That game wasn't all on Jacoby Jones.

You have your opinion and I have mine. I was watching the game with family, and the minute he muffed that punt I told everyone I would see them later and went home ... I knew the game was over. If we win that game, which we should have despite having a rookie QB, I dont think there is anyone that beats us after that. Just my opinion, so LOL at yours too.

Dutchrudder
06-12-2012, 06:28 PM
I don't think you need to expect too much from him, you have five better receving options ahead of him in Boldin, Smith, Rice, Pitta and Dickson. JJ should be your 6th option, so if he gets more than 25 catches, I'll be surprised. I don't think that should be your concern though, the wheels on your defense are bound to fall off this year or next. After letting Jarret Johnson go and losing Terrell Suggs to an achilles for however long (at least 8 games I think), I would say your team is set to go about 6-10 this year. Ed Reed has trouble staying healthy and will be 34, Ray Lewis will be 37, and I just don't see it lasting much longer. The Ravens have been somewhat fortunate, but age is bound to catch up with them. If the defense can't stay top 5, then Joe Flacco is going to have to actually win a few games, and I just don't see that happening. He's gonna look like Matt Ryan next year.

Texecutioner
06-12-2012, 06:44 PM
Never said he was trolling, just that this is posted in the wrong section, because JJ is no longer a member of the Houston Texans organization.


THe Texans were his last and only team he played for. Where else did you expect the guy to go to ask fans about Jacoby Jones? Nothing wrong with him wanting to get a report on the guy from fans who watched him for years.

ckhouston
06-12-2012, 07:30 PM
THe Texans were his last and only team he played for. Where else did you expect the guy to go to ask fans about Jacoby Jones? Nothing wrong with him wanting to get a report on the guy from fans who watched him for years.

There is an NFL section.

In that section there are discussions about many former Texans. Lawrence Vickers, Seth Payne, Derrick Mason, Aaron Glen, etc.

Joe Texan
06-12-2012, 08:37 PM
Fumble in crunchtime

Corrosion
06-12-2012, 09:48 PM
There is an NFL section.

In that section there are discussions about many former Texans. Lawrence Vickers, Seth Payne, Derrick Mason, Aaron Glen, etc.

The OP isnt a regular contributor to this site .... He's a Ravens fan who came here for insight on a former Texans player .... Give the guy a break , we dont need thread police like ClutchFans.

Texan_Bill
06-12-2012, 09:50 PM
His hand would slip from his forehead if we had one

:spit:

Texan_Bill
06-12-2012, 09:58 PM
The OP isnt a regular contributor to this site .... He's a Ravens fan who came here for insight on a former Texans player .... Give the guy a break , we dont need thread police like ClutchFans.

+1..... We all have our negative feelings about a guy that after 5 or 6 years (whatever) that never "figured it out". That said, I think we all gave the OP honest feedback, whether positive or more consistently negative accounts.. (Not to mention one of Baltimore's MVP players from last year's playoffs)

*Remember when Matt Schaub was running out of real estate against OAK Raiders and JJ worked hard to bail him out for the game winning TD?? No, me neither! :kitten:


ETC., ETC., ETC...

Corrosion
06-12-2012, 10:27 PM
+1..... We all have our negative feelings about a guy that after 5 or 6 years (whatever) that never "figured it out". That said, I think we all gave the OP honest feedback, whether positive or more consistently negative accounts.. (Not to mention one of Baltimore's MVP players from last year's playoffs)

*Remember when Matt Schaub was running out of real estate against OAK Raiders and JJ worked hard to bail him out for the game winning TD?? No, me neither! :kitten:


ETC., ETC., ETC...

Yeah , I think we all gave honest opinions .... I just get tired of the thread police .... Its getting to feel like Clutchfans , and thats annoying. Let the mods mod ... dont like something , report it to a mod rather than clutter the thread or pad your post count , thats done in the drunk thread or LOTPW thread.

This was a public service announcement brought to you by some asshole on the interwebz. :corrosion:

ObsiWan
06-13-2012, 02:58 AM
Even if he didn't muff it, you needed to watch games he was in with a box of TUMS by your side. Remember, Pavlov's dog experiments?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Rbo6lKZrMT8/ToGfL3KhJzI/AAAAAAAAAkA/Tvab8rXM-k4/s1600/dog-training-18.jpg

A loving good-bye from Kubiak.

https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSKzGd1CCYKaQAZoG_WI9MB9ZQUxAKgp xqZGF0FkI28UYLO9CgsWQ

:thinking:
I was wondering....

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRKvZD7wBtv5SicjwOz5dEQX_kp1Aal9 RnCdwIOAkhVMNt_7IFm

where does Doc get those wonderful toys?

TejasTom
06-13-2012, 08:13 AM
Hope followed by despair.

Hervoyel
06-14-2012, 02:47 PM
Wondering what you guys think of him.

I know that some think he cost them t playoff game vs the Ravens but now that the Ravens signed him, what does he bring to the table. I know he got behind Ed Reed on the one TD in the early season matchup

I'm sorry but Jacoby Jones is an immature bum with speed. Your one chance to get anything out of him is if being cut here somehow caused him to snap to the reality that this could all be over if he doesn't figure out how to focus and become a pro. Years in Houston under Kubiak never seemed to make that happen so I don't like your chances of turning him into an effective receiver very much.

thunderkyss
06-14-2012, 05:48 PM
JJ has the one thing you can't teach, speed. As long as he has that, someone will give him a chance based on his potential.

Not really directed at you, but spinning off your comment - folks often talk about JJ's speed when we have a faster WR on the team - AJ. JJ is twitchier than AJ who is a long strider but JJ is not faster. AJ won 60 and 100 meter dash Big East championships. JJ won nada. AJ was recorded at 4.27 in college. He has been a narrow second in the fastest man competition each time he has gone to the Pro Bowl. I'm sure his speed has fallen off some but his running style makes people underestimate his speed.

BOOyAH!!!

Really, BooYah!!

It's as if 'cak didn't say, "Not really directed at you." or Hagar said "we're going to miss JJ's speed."

No one has ever said JJ is the faster player, much less receiver on this team. But, in the past, JJ was the only one even close. Double teaming, even triple teaming Aj is easier when Walter & David Anderson are on the field..... yeah, without JJ over the last couple of years, that's what we had on the field.

BooYah!! really??

handswarmer
06-18-2012, 04:31 PM
The OP isnt a regular contributor to this site .... He's a Ravens fan who came here for insight on a former Texans player .... Give the guy a break , we dont need thread police like ClutchFans.

Like anyone would really pay attention to the Thread if in NFL Section?

Just like in Stripes "Lighten up Francis"

Thanks to all for the input

infantrycak
06-18-2012, 07:19 PM
Like anyone would really pay attention to the Thread if in NFL Section?

Just like in Stripes "Lighten up Francis"

Thanks to all for the input

We will move it when it seems like interest is dying out but leaving it here for polite visiting fans doesn't hurt anything.