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SmoochyTX
06-02-2012, 10:43 PM
Per his latest message on Twitter, he's outta here.

"Its been real Houston Texan Fans thank u for the 2yrs of memories. Although we had a lot of ups &downs we had fun! Good luck this year!"

https://twitter.com/DerrickWard32/status/209119994179633152

CloakNNNdagger
06-02-2012, 10:59 PM
Interesting to see what McClain wrote in the Chronicle back in January. I was actually hoping he'd be back. He tended to produce in the clinch.

Will Ward come back?

Foster’s contract situation will be one of the most interesting parts of the Texans’ offseason.

“Just a strong back (and) a very special player,” offensive tackle Duane Brown said. “Once he puts his foot on the gas, he never lets up if he finds any kind of weakness in a defense.

“He does a great job of trusting us up front, trusting his reads, trusting where the team is going to be. And when he gets to the second level, it’s really hard to tackle him.”
Ward, who was an effective backup in 2010 when he averaged 6.4 yards playing behind Foster, gave way to Tate this season.

Ward signed a one-year contract before the lockout. He ran for 154 yards and two touchdowns. He’s scheduled to become unrestricted. What he means to the Texans can’t be measured in statistics.

The Texans are hoping Ward is happy with his role as a mentor to Foster and Tate and as one of the leaders in the locker room.

Playoffs
06-02-2012, 11:02 PM
I really like Ward and think he's better than a lot of options out there you saw on Sundays in 2011.

SmoochyTX
06-02-2012, 11:14 PM
I guess since they signed Justin Forsett, they needed some room.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/02/texans-agree-to-terms-with-justin-forsett/

JCTexan
06-02-2012, 11:15 PM
Per his latest message on Twitter, he's outta here.

"Its been real Houston Texan Fans thank u for the 2yrs of memories. Although we had a lot of ups &downs we had fun! Good luck this year!"

https://twitter.com/DerrickWard32/status/209119994179633152

I really don't recall any 'downs' during Ward's two years here. Does anybody know what he's talking about?

Ryan
06-02-2012, 11:18 PM
i really don't recall any 'downs' during ward's two years here. Does anybody know what he's talking about?

6-10?

Lucky
06-02-2012, 11:19 PM
I really don't recall any 'downs' during Ward's two years here. Does anybody know what he's talking about?
The Texans were 6-10 in Ward's first season with the team (2010). Many of the games were lost in heartbreaking fashion. I'd peg that as a "down".

Wolf
06-02-2012, 11:32 PM
Well he won't have to worry about Cushing anymore :kitten:
http://gifsoup.com/imager.php?id=3253451&t=o (http://gifsoup.com/view/3253451/cushing-smash.html) GIFSoup (http://gifsoup.com/)

on a serious note, classy tweet by Ward

JCTexan
06-02-2012, 11:35 PM
6-10?

The Texans were 6-10 in Ward's first season with the team (2010). Many of the games were lost in heartbreaking fashion. I'd peg that as a "down".

Thanks to both of you. I was thinking more along the lines of his overall play during his two years here. In 2010 he rushed for 6.3 yards a carry, and he didn't lose one fumble during his time here (at least from rotoworlds stats). I wasn't factoring in team success.

Lucky
06-02-2012, 11:37 PM
Thanks to both of you. I was thinking more along the lines of his overall play during his two years here. In 2010 he rushed for 6.3 yards a carry, and he didn't lose one fumble during his time here (at least from rotoworlds stats).
I think Ward's most valuable contribution was showing Foster and Tate how to be pros. He didn't whine about touches, he just showed up ready to play when called upon. The type of things that don't show up on the stat sheets.

CretorFrigg
06-03-2012, 12:32 AM
I always thought Ward was one of the slowest backs out there, but always, somehow, got the yards needed. He'll be missed, but I'm looking forward to Forsett's arrival in Houston. I think he's a better runner than Ward, but might need to work on his pass blocking a bit.

NastyNate
06-03-2012, 12:41 AM
Damnit to hell, Ward was a very capable back and an excellent backup to tate and foster. Wish we could have snagged him for vet minimum again. Best of luck D-Ward.

Brisco_County
06-03-2012, 01:25 AM
I always liked Ward, even when he was with the Giants. I'm glad he got to make some memorable plays in a Texans jersey during his career. Good luck man.

The Pencil Neck
06-03-2012, 02:32 AM
I liked Ward. I felt comfy with him out there (even though he wasn't Arian or Tate) and he was humble enough to play special teams.

I'm going to miss him and wish him all the best except when he plays us.

TexanSam
06-03-2012, 04:43 AM
Best of luck to him. I hope he goes somewhere where he's competing for a starting job. He deserves it.

silvrhand
06-03-2012, 08:08 AM
Damn.. really wish he would have stayed on the roster.

beerlover
06-03-2012, 08:14 AM
Texans always give players opportunity to catch on early with another team once it becomes clear younger, cheaper players are ready to step-up so it should come to most of you as no big surprise. Still he served the Texans well. Good Luck catching on with another team, maybe back to the Giants.

ckhouston
06-03-2012, 09:55 AM
1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Doesnt matter ...

CloakNNNdagger
06-03-2012, 09:57 AM
1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Doesnt matter ...

1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Injury
4. Matters a whole lot

ckhouston
06-03-2012, 10:12 AM
1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Injury
4. Matters a whole lot

1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Armageddon Starts (about as predictable as injury)

Just run with the two studs and put in whoever behind them to give them some rest, as for injury ... we cross that bridge when we get there

Hardcore Texan
06-03-2012, 10:20 AM
1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Doesnt matter ...



1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Armageddon Starts (about as predictable as injury)

Just run with the two studs and put in whoever behind them to give them some rest, as for injury ... we cross that bridge when we get there

It matters man, you have to plan ahead. We are just one injury away from Ward, Forsett, or the #3 from being the #2. And with this team's injury history I think your statement is too bold to say #3 doesn't matter. The teams that win in December and January are the ones with the best depth.

Thorn
06-03-2012, 10:22 AM
To bad, I always liked Ward. I wish him well.

ckhouston
06-03-2012, 10:27 AM
It matters man, you have to plan ahead. We are just one injury away from Ward, Forsett, or the #3 from being the #2. And with this team's injury history I think your statement is too bold to say #3 doesn't matter. The teams that win in December and January are the ones with the best depth.

If you base decisions off of the team history then we go into this year expecting to lose and not make the playoffs. Look forward, not back. Both our backs are healthy so go out with Foster and Tate and dominate. All I was saying is dont worry about who #3 is right now, it isnt critical. Dont start inventing problems to spend more money on when they arent there. Spend the money where we need it. Not that much cap room. Improve what needs to be improved ... Forsett will do just fine. Good luck to Ward.

CloakNNNdagger
06-03-2012, 10:32 AM
Since Ward is not yet signed (although you would expect him to be signed by mid TC), theoretically, should the Texans find out that Forsett is not what they thought he was, they could still choose to sign Ward. I know, many "ifs." It probably wouldn't hurt my feeling if that were to happen.

ChampionTexan
06-03-2012, 10:33 AM
Texans always give players opportunity to catch on early with another team once it becomes clear younger, cheaper players are ready to step-up so it should come to most of you as no big surprise. Still he served the Texans well. Good Luck catching on with another team, maybe back to the Giants.

I agree with the general statement, but this isn't an example of that. His contract expired - he's been able to sign with anyone who wants him since April.

Hardcore Texan
06-03-2012, 11:16 AM
If you base decisions off of the team history then we go into this year expecting to lose and not make the playoffs. Look forward, not back. Both our backs are healthy so go out with Foster and Tate and dominate. All I was saying is dont worry about who #3 is right now, it isnt critical. Dont start inventing problems to spend more money on when they arent there. Spend the money where we need it. Not that much cap room. Improve what needs to be improved ... Forsett will do just fine. Good luck to Ward.

I am not disputing any of that, I am disputing your statement that #3 RB doesn't matter. With limited roster spots, every spot matters.

No one is looking back expecting to lose, that comment was out of left field dude, I just made a statement that injuries are part of the game plus experience is kind of sorta important. That's not inventing problems, but since we are talking right here right now we need RB's for OTA's and camp, you know so Foster and Tate are not overworked. I said nothing about money, and I know the cap situation.

I am looking forward to Forsett but liked Ward. One thing is for sure if he's not good in pass pro he won't see the field.

Vinny
06-03-2012, 11:28 AM
It matters man, you have to plan ahead. We are just one injury away from Ward, Forsett, or the #3 from being the #2. And with this team's injury history I think your statement is too bold to say #3 doesn't matter. The teams that win in December and January are the ones with the best depth.gotta go cheap on the rb3 now that we have two starting caliber backs and no cap room and contracts from prominent players coming up.

Hardcore Texan
06-03-2012, 11:30 AM
gotta go cheap on the rb3 now that we have two starting caliber backs and no cap room and contracts from prominent players coming up.

Don't disagree, never did.

welsh texan
06-03-2012, 11:41 AM
At this stage in Ward's career he's probably best off getting himself some touches somewhere, its also probably not a bad idea for the Texans to begin trying to develop someone to take over from Tate in a year or 2 because no-way will they be able to afford him unless he has some terrible injury or loss of form which would be bad.

Think Ward was class in his role and would have been one of the better guys we'd trotted out as a starter if it wasn't for Foster & Tate being around at the same time.

steelbtexan
06-03-2012, 11:52 AM
I hope the Lions dont sign Ward. They need a vet RB on the cheap and the Texans having to play against Ward on Thanksgiving day isn't a thought I cherish.

SheTexan
06-03-2012, 12:12 PM
Kinda makes me sad! Odd that he hasn't been picked up already. Maybe he was just waiting to see if he could work something out with us, which makes me believe he truly wanted to stay a Texan. A lot of changes this year, most of them I'm not crazy about, but, we will see what happens come gametime.

Rey
06-03-2012, 01:45 PM
If you base decisions off of the team history then we go into this year expecting to lose and not make the playoffs. Look forward, not back. Both our backs are healthy so go out with Foster and Tate and dominate. All I was saying is dont worry about who #3 is right now, it isnt critical. Dont start inventing problems to spend more money on when they arent there. Spend the money where we need it. Not that much cap room. Improve what needs to be improved ... Forsett will do just fine. Good luck to Ward.

I think the posts were in response to your statement "it doesn't matter".

It does matter. This is the NFL, spots are limited. Every roster spot matters even if it ends up not mattering, because it very well could have.

:corrosion:

GP
06-03-2012, 05:01 PM
If someone is a Texans fan and he/she doesn't think it matters who the 3rd man is on the roster at ANY position...let alone RB...I seriously wonder if that person really has followed Texans football closely.

TJ Yates was 3rd man up at the tail end of the reg season. To start off the year, Foster missed something like 3 or 4 games where our 2nd and 3rd string RBs had to platoon the RB position while he was out...and this situation was eased by still having Matt Schaub in there at QB to keep the offense as stable as it could be kept while our top gun RB was out for awhile.

Lost Schaub. Lost Leinart. 3rd man, Yates, stepped up and managed decently.

No, I'm afraid that your 3rd stringers in today's NFL just might be the difference between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs. I, like others, felt a calm with Ward as RB3. He wasn't dominating, but when he was in there he moved the chains. He scored TDs.

We've got 2 or 3 guys (Meggett, Grimes, and Forsett) to solidify that RB3 role. it will be interesting to see it in action this camp and preseason. Somebody is going to rise to the occasion.

drunkcookie
06-03-2012, 09:54 PM
Kinda makes me sad! Odd that he hasn't been picked up already. Maybe he was just waiting to see if he could work something out with us, which makes me believe he truly wanted to stay a Texan. A lot of changes this year, most of them I'm not crazy about, but, we will see what happens come gametime.

I think that there was a max that Ward wanted and he wasn't able to get it from anyone... Of course there's a minimum, and it's still probably a little too much for the Texans... He deserves (and most likely will get) more than the Texans can justifiably spend additionally on the RB position and that's pretty much all there is to it...

The Texans are already paying two RBs starter money, can't go paying a 3rd too much...

I hope Ward gets a good deal somewhere not named Indy...

Texecutioner
06-03-2012, 10:26 PM
Ward is an underrated back in this league. He played well here and made the most of his role when he got his chances. Good luck to him for the future.

Thorn
06-03-2012, 10:35 PM
Ward is an underrated back in this league. He played well here and made the most of his role when he got his chances. Good luck to him for the future.

He was a 3rd string back for us. For the other 31 guys in the NFL that had that job title last year, I'll bet Ward was better than all of them. Foster, Tate and Ward were a hell of a trio. I hope our new 3rd string back, whoever that ends up being, can live up to what Ward did for us.

Texecutioner
06-03-2012, 10:36 PM
He was a 3rd string back for us. For the other 31 guys in the NFL that had that job title last year, I'll bet Ward was better than all of them. Foster, Tate and Ward were a hell of a trio. I hope our new 3rd string back, whoever that ends up being, can live up to what Ward did for us.

Yeah, I would have liked to have had him back.

TheMatrix31
06-04-2012, 12:55 AM
1. Foster
2. Tate
3. Doesnt matter ...

What a ridiculous comment. Yeah, as if it didn't matter who was third string RB last year when both Foster and Tate were banged up for the first however-long of the season?

Absolute absurdity.

edo783
06-04-2012, 02:40 AM
gotta go cheap on the rb3 now that we have two starting caliber backs and no cap room and contracts from prominent players coming up.

I liked Ward a lot, but a Vinny says your number 3 guy has to be cheap in this salary cap world. Particularly for us since we are so close to it. Good solid guy both as a player and as a person I wish him well.

CloakNNNdagger
06-04-2012, 08:45 PM
Derrick Ward thinks the Texans don’t know what he can do (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/06/04/derrick-ward-thinks-the-texans-dont-know-what-he-can-do/)
Posted by Michael David Smith on June 4, 2012, 9:35 PM EDT

After playing the last two years in Houston, free agent running back Derrick Ward has been told the Texans don’t have any plan to re-sign him. And Ward seems to think that’s the result of the Texans not knowing what he can contribute.

Ward wrote on Twitter today that he was told the Texans didn’t bring him back because he doesn’t play special teams. And Ward would like to point out that during his first four seasons in the NFL, playing special teams was his primary responsibility with the Giants.

“Was just told I didnt get re-signed because I don’t play special teams? Humm check 2004-2007 stats special teams demon. Oh well,” Ward wrote. “Their loss though. Will take some time off now & see what I want to do!”

Ward doesn’t say who told him that special teams are the reason the Texans don’t want him anymore, but from the Texans’ perspective, it’s fair to point out that just because Ward was a good special teams player five years ago, that doesn’t necessarily mean he’d be a good special teams player for the Texans this year. And Ward will turn 32 in August and is coming off a season in which he averaged a career-low 3.4 yards a carry, so it’s easy to see why the Texans don’t think he has much more to contribute to their offense.

After Ward takes time off and sees what he wants to do, there’s a good chance he will come to the conclusion that whether he wants to keep playing in the NFL or not, teams just aren’t interested in his services, no matter how much he still thinks he can contribute on special teams.

Count me as one that doesn't agree with the latter statement or the decision not to resign him.........especially for the ST reason supposedly given.

ChampionTexan
06-04-2012, 08:48 PM
Count me as one that doesn't agree with the latter statement or the decision not to resign him.........especially for the ST reason supposedly given.

Well, so far, 31 other NFL teams have made the same decision about signing him as the Texans have.

CloakNNNdagger
06-04-2012, 08:51 PM
Well, so far, 31 other NFL teams have made the same decision about signing him as the Texans have.

So far..........he may have been holding off serious thought to offers and holding out hope until he received the news. We'll see.

infantrycak
06-04-2012, 09:42 PM
Count me as one that doesn't agree with the latter statement or the decision not to resign him.........especially for the ST reason supposedly given.

I'm a little dubious of the anonymous source in this instance. Ward's essentially saying they don't know what I can do on special teams just doesn't make sense. He was the 3rd string RB. If they had cared what he could do on ST they would have had him doing it in practice at the very least and he would be referring to what he did here rather than five years ago. Doesn't sound like they ever gave it a thought.

Rey
06-04-2012, 10:43 PM
I'm a little dubious of the anonymous source in this instance. Ward's essentially saying they don't know what I can do on special teams just doesn't make sense. He was the 3rd string RB. If they had cared what he could do on ST they would have had him doing it in practice at the very least and he would be referring to what he did here rather than five years ago. Doesn't sound like they ever gave it a thought.

Maybe they gave him a few looks there and didn't like what they saw. Even if they never did that though, part of their job is to project.

Maybe they thought that he wouldnt fill any special teams roles as well as some other guys they have.

I think special teams ability did play a small role but I don't think it's the reason they let him walk. I don't see too many rb's making a big contribution there unless they are returnees. And even then they might not are a lot of action.

Dutchrudder
06-04-2012, 11:13 PM
Letting Derrick Ward go is the right decision. His role can easily be filled by a cheaper UDFA who will likely be able to contribute on special teams.

GP
06-04-2012, 11:24 PM
Letting Derrick Ward go is the right decision. His role can easily be filled by a cheaper UDFA who will likely be able to contribute on special teams.

Ward had that chip on his shoulder. I remember him wanting to come here and show the Bucs that they mishandled his role there.

To an extent, he should have been thankful the Texans didn't frown upon his time with the Bucs. Plus, he was riding behind Foster and Tate...so he had to know that his role was never going to be THE running back who gets the snaps.

Throw in what has been speculated about his asking price and desire to be THE running back for a team, and it's a good time for the guy to go away. I think he had no intention of staying in Houston for a third year of being RB3. His decision to go to the Bucs a few years ago was a bad idea, in hindsight. Because it put him a couple years behind the 8-ball and then he came into the Texans at a bad time due to Foster hitting the scene and going bonkers here.

He has essentially wasted a good 3 or 4 years of his career. The high he was riding upon after his successful time with the Giants has been unraveled a bit. He needs to find a team who needs a stable RB and I think he can be RB1 or even RB2 if he finds the right fit. But I wonder if his heart is even into the effort of trying.

Maybe he's being selective now, in contrast with his jump to the Bucs. I dunno. I just know that I feel the same way you do.

We've got two UDFAs and maybe a Ward version 2.0 in Forsett...and perhaps the time was ripe for Ward not being here anymore. A guy can sour and cause problems if he sticks around too long and begins to grind an axe. From his recent comments, he has an axe to grind with the Texans.

infantrycak
06-05-2012, 12:37 AM
His decision to go to the Bucs a few years ago was a bad idea, in hindsight. Because it put him a couple years behind the 8-ball and then he came into the Texans at a bad time due to Foster hitting the scene and going bonkers here.

He has essentially wasted a good 3 or 4 years of his career. The high he was riding upon after his successful time with the Giants has been unraveled a bit. He needs to find a team who needs a stable RB and I think he can be RB1 or even RB2 if he finds the right fit. But I wonder if his heart is even into the effort of trying.

Mistake going to the Bucs? In five years with the Giants he had started 8 games. He parlayed that into about $5 mil for one year as a backup for the Bucs and then several million from the Texans as a backup. He was available to the Texans for the 2009 season. He's been on three teams now and started 10 games in 8 seasons. He's delusional if he thinks now at 31 anyone is going to see him as a RB1. The question is whether he hops on in the league at all.

Norg
06-05-2012, 04:49 AM
we should get Addai just cuz :P

ckhouston
06-05-2012, 04:59 AM
“Their loss though. Will take some time off now & see what I want to do!”

Don't let the door hit you ...

Dutchrudder
06-07-2012, 08:51 AM
Ward had that chip on his shoulder. I remember him wanting to come here and show the Bucs that they mishandled his role there.

To an extent, he should have been thankful the Texans didn't frown upon his time with the Bucs. Plus, he was riding behind Foster and Tate...so he had to know that his role was never going to be THE running back who gets the snaps.

Throw in what has been speculated about his asking price and desire to be THE running back for a team, and it's a good time for the guy to go away. I think he had no intention of staying in Houston for a third year of being RB3. His decision to go to the Bucs a few years ago was a bad idea, in hindsight. Because it put him a couple years behind the 8-ball and then he came into the Texans at a bad time due to Foster hitting the scene and going bonkers here.

He has essentially wasted a good 3 or 4 years of his career. The high he was riding upon after his successful time with the Giants has been unraveled a bit. He needs to find a team who needs a stable RB and I think he can be RB1 or even RB2 if he finds the right fit. But I wonder if his heart is even into the effort of trying.

Maybe he's being selective now, in contrast with his jump to the Bucs. I dunno. I just know that I feel the same way you do.

We've got two UDFAs and maybe a Ward version 2.0 in Forsett...and perhaps the time was ripe for Ward not being here anymore. A guy can sour and cause problems if he sticks around too long and begins to grind an axe. From his recent comments, he has an axe to grind with the Texans.

He's not being selective, he's being priced out of the market thanks to the NFL's stupid minimum wage policy:


For the 2012 season, minimum NFL base salaries are:

1) Rookie - $390,000
2) 1 year - $465,000
3) 2 year - $540,000
4) 3 year - $615,000
5) 4-6 year - $700,000
6) 7-9 year - $825,000
7) 10+ year - $925,000


He has 8 or 9 years experience, so he costs at least 825k this year. UDFA's cost about 435k less this year, and I think we all know the Texans' cap is in bad shape. We can't afford to waste that money on a #3 RB who will only play in the case of injury or when the game is out of hand. Save the cash and use it on better players. Ward was decent while he was here, but never a real factor in any game that mattered.

Vinny
06-07-2012, 09:06 AM
Mistake going to the Bucs? In five years with the Giants he had started 8 games. He parlayed that into about $5 mil for one year as a backup for the Bucs and then several million from the Texans as a backup. He was available to the Texans for the 2009 season. He's been on three teams now and started 10 games in 8 seasons. He's delusional if he thinks now at 31 anyone is going to see him as a RB1. The question is whether he hops on in the league at all.It was a great move financially. He wasn't really good enough for that contract....so he did the right thing.

He's not being selective, he's being priced out of the market thanks to the NFL's stupid minimum wage policy:



He has 8 or 9 years experience, so he costs at least 825k this year. UDFA's cost about 435k less this year, and I think we all know the Texans' cap is in bad shape. We can't afford to waste that money on a #3 RB who will only play in the case of injury or when the game is out of hand. Save the cash and use it on better players. Ward was decent while he was here, but never a real factor in any game that mattered. This is another example of the road to hell being paved with good intentions. This was supposed to help the vets but it hammers them out of a job in cases like this one.

infantrycak
06-07-2012, 09:42 AM
He's not being selective, he's being priced out of the market thanks to the NFL's stupid minimum wage policy:

If he will accept a contract with no signing bonus for that minimum wage then the NFL gives a big discount on salary cap hit - I want to say a third but maybe fifty percent.

MidtownMikey
06-07-2012, 11:50 AM
If a vet accepts a one year deal for the minimum with no bonuses then for salary cap purposes they basically count as a 1-year player.

ObsiWan
06-07-2012, 12:02 PM
If you base decisions off of the team history then we go into this year expecting to lose and not make the playoffs. Look forward, not back. Both our backs are healthy so go out with Foster and Tate and dominate. All I was saying is dont worry about who #3 is right now, it isnt critical. Dont start inventing problems to spend more money on when they arent there. Spend the money where we need it. Not that much cap room. Improve what needs to be improved ... Forsett will do just fine. Good luck to Ward.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q145/jfrazell/wpfZFOyVdf_i-saw-what-you-did-there.jpg

GP
06-07-2012, 12:08 PM
He's not being selective, he's being priced out of the market thanks to the NFL's stupid minimum wage policy:



He has 8 or 9 years experience, so he costs at least 825k this year. UDFA's cost about 435k less this year, and I think we all know the Texans' cap is in bad shape. We can't afford to waste that money on a #3 RB who will only play in the case of injury or when the game is out of hand. Save the cash and use it on better players. Ward was decent while he was here, but never a real factor in any game that mattered.

Uh, oh yeah. Forgot about the whole vet minimum and how it's insanely bloated no matter what the real market would hold for a guy like Ward. My bad.

In that sense, it's going to be hard for him to land anywhere.

ObsiWan
06-07-2012, 12:10 PM
He's not being selective, he's being priced out of the market thanks to the NFL's stupid minimum wage policy:

He has 8 or 9 years experience, so he costs at least 825k this year. UDFA's cost about 435k less this year, and I think we all know the Texans' cap is in bad shape. We can't afford to waste that money on a #3 RB who will only play in the case of injury or when the game is out of hand. Save the cash and use it on better players. Ward was decent while he was here, but never a real factor in any game that mattered.

In today's Modern-Day-Salary-Capped NFL, this is the bottom line folks. We can get what he brings to the table for less cash.

And if the injury bug swarms on us again, as it did last year, we have your agent's number.

Good luck Mr. Ward - and I mean that because I thought he was a good player - hope you land on your feet. Preferably with someone NOT on our schedule this year. :D

Dutchrudder
06-07-2012, 12:27 PM
If he will accept a contract with no signing bonus for that minimum wage then the NFL gives a big discount on salary cap hit - I want to say a third but maybe fifty percent.

You are right, there is a cap hit limit for vet minimum deals (Qualifying Contracts), $540,000 + signing bonus (if there is one). It doesn't matter what their years of experience is, just that they sign for the vet min. So it's a 150k difference between Ward and an UDFA, but the club still has to pay him 825k if they want him. That's still a 435k difference in money that McNair would have to pick up if Smithiak wanted to keep him. I guess they chose to not offer him anything.

Dutchrudder
07-03-2012, 03:11 PM
Thanks for the couple years of service Derrick. :fans:

Back in June, running back Derrick Ward said that he was going to take some time to evaluate his options after learning the Texans didn’t want him back for another season.

Ward’s soul-searching has come to a conclusion and he has decided to retire. Ward made the announcement on Twitter Tuesday afternoon.

Ward spent nine years in the NFL with the Giants, Buccaneers and Texans after being drafted by the Jets in the seventh round of the 2004 Draft. The Giants signed him off of their co-tenants’ practice squad in October of his rookie year and he gradually worked his way into the backfield mix. His best season came in 2008 when he ran for 1,025 yards as part of the Earth, Wind and Fire backfield with Ahmad Bradshaw and Brandon Jacobs.

Ward parlayed that year into a four-year deal with the Buccaneers, but got cut after one disappointing season that resulted in just 409 yards. Ward ran for 469 yards as a reserve with the Texans during the last two seasons and, at 31, didn’t get too many more looks from a league slanted toward younger running backs.


http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/07/03/derrick-ward-announces-his-retirement/

badboy
07-03-2012, 03:14 PM
wow, I thought he'd end up somewhere; did not know it was the beach.

The Pencil Neck
07-03-2012, 03:24 PM
I'm surprised. I thought he still had some tread on the tires. He didn't look too bad when he played last year.

BullBlitz
07-03-2012, 03:25 PM
wow, I thought he'd end up somewhere; did not know it was the beach.

He should keep himself in shape. Injuries happen, and you never know who might call.

False Start
07-03-2012, 03:44 PM
Well, I'm happy for the guy. He got out while he was still in good health. I enjoyed him while he was here.

Playoffs
07-03-2012, 04:22 PM
Well, I'm happy for the guy. He got out while he was still in good health. I enjoyed him while he was here.
Yep. Me, too. Best of luck, Derrick.

CloakNNNdagger
07-03-2012, 04:42 PM
I'm surprised. I thought he still had some tread on the tires. He didn't look too bad when he played last year.

Same impression. Somehow, I think he will see action somewhere before the season is over. Otherwise, I believe there are quite a few teams out there that will have made a mistake ruling him out.

Big Lou
07-03-2012, 04:49 PM
Same impression. Somehow, I think he will see action somewhere before the season is over. Otherwise, I believe there are quite a few teams out there that will have made a mistake ruling him out.

I hope we're not one of them. I wonder if it's that the offers were too low in his opinion. Seems like it would be worth it to make a little over vet minimum to be a back up and save your body, but maybe he's got what he needs and its not about the money for him.

drs23
07-03-2012, 05:56 PM
I hope we're not one of them. I wonder if it's that the offers were too low in his opinion. Seems like it would be worth it to make a little over vet minimum to be a back up and save your body, but maybe he's got what he needs and its not about the money for him.

That's what I'm thinking. 8 years in the league. If he invested wisely and didn't support his posse then Derrick should have enough to live through retirement comfortably.

He doesn't sound worried. Good on him.

Thanks Derrick Ward.

Double Barrel
07-03-2012, 06:08 PM
Well, I'm happy for the guy. He got out while he was still in good health. I enjoyed him while he was here.

My sentiments, as well. :thumbup

TEXANRED
07-03-2012, 06:14 PM
wow, I thought he'd end up somewhere; did not know it was the beach.

Sounds like someone invested their money correctly and didn't have to ride out years of being a 3rd string and or being brought in and cut as camp fodder.

Hervoyel
07-03-2012, 10:08 PM
I liked Ward but I think everybody who's given any thought to the Texans offense knows that if we find ourselves in a position where we really miss Ward, we're most likely already dead in the water and he'll probably still be available to sign cheap at the time.

ObsiWan
07-04-2012, 06:43 AM
He should keep himself in shape. Injuries happen, and you never know who might call.

Same impression. Somehow, I think he will see action somewhere before the season is over. Otherwise, I believe there are quite a few teams out there that will have made a mistake ruling him out.

Count me in this camp. I thought - still think - he can bring value and veteran presence to a young team trying to get their act together. And he knows how to get himself into the endzone.

But, at the end of the day, it's his call. So I appreciate his contributions to our squad and wish him well if he's truly hanging up his shoulder pads.
Best wishes D.W.
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