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TexanSam
05-28-2012, 08:32 PM
According to Adam Schefter

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/207282632961163264

Former Jaguars WR Mike Sims-Walker is scheduled to work out Wednesday for the receiver-needy Houston Texans.

srrono
05-28-2012, 08:35 PM
Must mean young WR's are not impressing the coaches.

ThaShark316
05-28-2012, 08:40 PM
Must mean young WR's are not impressing the coaches.

Not really.

Even if they were...

Dre's out, Posey, Martin, Jean, Walter...

Need more, dude...and a vet won't hurt one bit.

The Cush
05-28-2012, 08:49 PM
We need a vet. Outside of Andre and Walter, not one single other guy has taken an NFL snap.

ArlingtonTexan
05-28-2012, 08:52 PM
Must mean young WR's are not impressing the coaches.

kubiak said that they would be looking at veterans a few weeks back.

Nawzer
05-28-2012, 08:55 PM
Not a bad receiver. If he was on a good team that had a QB to catch passes from, he would've had a decent season.

Allstar
05-28-2012, 09:19 PM
Must mean young WR's are not impressing the coaches.

Doubt it. 3 days can't really tell you much. Kubes had previously said he wanted to look at vets I believe.

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2012, 09:26 PM
Sims-Walker was plagued with injuries last season playing only 6 games because of a groin, shoulder and 2 knee injuries. Like AJ, we don't know what we will be getting.

TexanCR
05-28-2012, 09:26 PM
Could be a good pickup, I was under the impresion that we were waiting for other teams to cut some players (NE anyone?).

Seems like MSW is always injured lately, hopefully not another Mason taking the roster spot of somebody like Dwight Jones who can develop to be a good WR for us.

Allstar
05-28-2012, 09:28 PM
Good point TCR, New England is going to cut some talented WRs.

ObsiWan
05-28-2012, 09:31 PM
According to Adam Schefter

https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/207282632961163264

But the younguns have got to be better than this....
ESPN Insider (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?playerId=10523)
Grade: 54
Expert's Take:
Sims-Walker is a good-sized receiver with above-average straight-line speed but builds to his speed more than being immediate or explosive. He is not a great route runner and struggles to get in and out of his breaks with explosiveness to separate from defenders. He has shown lapses in concentration and drops more passes than a starter should.

The list of WRs (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?sort=grade&positionId=1) from ESPN Insider

Hell, Bryant Johnson is listed higher than Sims-Walker...
:mcnugget:

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2012, 10:01 PM
To add to my above injury history, His last knee injury last year required surgery. The knee injuries bother me since he tore the ACL in his left knee during college. The Jaguars put him on IR during his rookie season with a knee injury. He sprained his knee in 2008 and also suffered from staph infection in the left knee, causing him to miss three games. 2009 was a healthy year for him. Then in 2010, he didn't have knee problems, but did suffer a high ankle sprain late in the season.........though he did undergo a knee surgery in the 2011 offseason.

..............just saying..............

TexanCR
05-28-2012, 10:02 PM
I guess Braylon Edwards wants too much money...or wants to play only for the Jets.

powda
05-28-2012, 10:05 PM
Hell, Bryant Johnson is listed higher than Sims-Walker...
:mcnugget:

I looked up his stats in a sporting news fantasy mag I have. Hes ranked 55 overall among wideouts. Their assessment reads, "most likely a bench option no matter where he plays."

CloakNNNdagger
05-28-2012, 10:14 PM
I looked up his stats in a sporting news fantasy mag I have. Hes ranked 55 overall among wideouts. Their assessment reads, "most likely a bench option no matter where he plays."

Would that be without or with crutches?:kitten:

Lucky
05-28-2012, 10:24 PM
Good point TCR, New England is going to cut some talented WRs.
Like? 31 year old Donte Stallworth? 33 year old Deion Branch? Or how about 34 year old Chad Johnson (that's right, I call him Johnson). If these guys have anything left, they'll be catching passes from Brady.

powda
05-28-2012, 10:27 PM
Like? 31 year old Donte Stallworth? 33 year old Deion Branch? Or how about 34 year old Chad Johnson (that's right, I call him Johnson). If these guys have anything left, they be catching passes from Brady.

Didnt 30 something jabar gaffney sign with the pats to?

Lucky
05-28-2012, 10:33 PM
Didnt 30 something jabar gaffney sign with the pats to?
Gaffney will likely stick. He still has some game left.

gary
05-28-2012, 10:42 PM
This is low risk move not bad.

Dutchrudder
05-28-2012, 10:52 PM
This is just a workout, no deal signed. I doubt the Texans even make him a camp body.

Playoffs
05-28-2012, 10:54 PM
I'm with CND on this one. MSW has had extensive knee problems going back to college. I think we'll be seeing a string of WRs tried out here.

Corrosion
05-28-2012, 10:55 PM
Nothing wrong with taking a look see .... but I cant see him sticking here. Kiddie Corp's at WR or not.

ObsiWan
05-28-2012, 11:18 PM
To add to my above injury history, His last knee injury last year required surgery. The knee injuries bother me since he tore the ACL in his left knee during college. The Jaguars put him on IR during his rookie season with a knee injury. He sprained his knee in 2008 and also suffered from staph infection in the left knee, causing him to miss three games. 2009 was a healthy year for him. Then in 2010, he didn't have knee problems, but did suffer a high ankle sprain late in the season.

..............just saying..............

I looked up his stats in a sporting news fantasy mag I have. Hes ranked 55 overall among wideouts. Their assessment reads, "most likely a bench option no matter where he plays."

Sounds like a camp body to me.

I just hope A.J. is ready for camp so the younguns can see what WR perfection looks like

ItsMyFault
05-28-2012, 11:30 PM
Meh, if he impresses enough to be signed I'm fine with adding some depth and experience. Like others said, injuries are a concern but I guess if we don't have anywhere else to go and he's available and impresses, I'd be alright with them signing him.

ObsiWan
05-29-2012, 12:21 AM
I'd just as soon give this guy a call if I were looking for someone to challenge the rooks.

Maurice Stovall (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?playerId=9676)

Grade - 57
Expert's Take:
Stovall is a big, strong wide receiver with above-average athleticism for the position. He has good balance and agility but lacks explosive speed and quickness as a route runner. He has reliable hands and a large receiving radius. He draws a crowd as an intermediate and short route runner, lacking burst to get separation. He can be a physical blocker on the perimeter using his length to stay connected. Stovall is more of a possession receiver and limited as far as how much he can contribute to the offense, but he has always been a very good core special-teams player.

"Reliable hands", a willing blocker, 6'-5", and a "very good core special-teams player"...? Now that's worth a look IMHO.

Heck, the only reason we even know who Sims-Walker is because he played for a division rival.

DX-TEX
05-29-2012, 01:26 AM
Like? 31 year old Donte Stallworth? 33 year old Deion Branch? Or how about 34 year old Chad Johnson (that's right, I call him Johnson). If these guys have anything left, they'll be catching passes from Brady.

IMO, Ochocinco has truggled in NE because he can not be himself. Yeah he is flamboyant at times, pops off at the mouth and uses Twitter worse than Arian. I think he would revitalize his career here. Only team mate he really ever had issues with was TO....he is friends with Dre and I think he would be a great fit.

Malloy
05-29-2012, 01:27 AM
Would that be without or with crutches?:kitten:

At least he's on the bench, not in a wheelchair :)

b0ng
05-29-2012, 01:34 AM
Mike Sims-Walker got cut from the Jags and the Rams last year. Two teams with the worst WR's in the league.

ObsiWan
05-29-2012, 06:25 AM
Mike Sims-Walker got cut from the Jags and the Rams last year. Two teams with the worst WR's in the league.

Case closed!
Why is he here?
Does our ability to scout WRs suck that terribly?

False Start
05-29-2012, 08:09 AM
I really hope the Texans dont sign this guy. I just dont like him. For one thing, he is a former Glitter Kitty, he is injury prone... and he just sucks. :littlelol:

TejasTom
05-29-2012, 08:28 AM
I really hope the Texans dont sign this guy. I just dont like him. For one thing, he is a former Glitter Kitty, he is injury prone... and he just sucks. :littlelol:

Don't beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel :shades:

Tailgate
05-29-2012, 09:05 AM
Simply due dilligance. After June 1, we get our vet.

False Start
05-29-2012, 09:33 AM
Don't beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel :shades:

I tried my best... :heh:

El Tejano
05-29-2012, 10:07 AM
Don't want to open up old wounds, but is he the guy that caught the Hail Mary pass two years ago?

El Tejano
05-29-2012, 10:15 AM
Does Burress want THAT much?

False Start
05-29-2012, 10:21 AM
Don't want to open up old wounds, but is he the guy that caught the Hail Mary pass two years ago?

That was Mike Thomas.

Rey
05-29-2012, 10:27 AM
Has he been signed or is this just a work out?

He may have an agent that is the agent of someone already on the team and the Texans are doing this as a scratch my back, I'll scratch your back kind of thing.

I really don't see any reason we'd be interested in him.

ArlingtonTexan
05-29-2012, 10:35 AM
I'd just as soon give this guy a call if I were looking for someone to challenge the rooks.

Maurice Stovall (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/fa?playerId=9676)



"Reliable hands", a willing blocker, 6'-5", and a "very good core special-teams player"...? Now that's worth a look IMHO.

Heck, the only reason we even know who Sims-Walker is because he played for a division rival.

Mike sims walker has had two indivdual seasons better than the entire career of this clown.

Playoffs
05-29-2012, 11:03 AM
Case closed!
Why is he here?
Does our ability to scout WRs suck that terribly?Texans have shown a propensity to regularly work out potential players throughout the season & during the offseason -- players who appear at face value to not have a chance & afterwards aren't called back.

I wonder if it's a practice to keep the talent evaluators busy, keep them "sharp", or keep them abreast of the market? Whichever, we've seen a lot of players pass through here for a look-see that doesn't amount to any more than that.

ChampionTexan
05-29-2012, 11:03 AM
Mike sims walker has had two indivdual seasons better than the entire career of this clown.

He's also had two seasons that were easily better than Jacoby's best for us. Folks in J'ville weren't happy when the Jags decided not to tender him after the 2010 season, and to me that's a better indicator than most.

I don't know about his current health, or the likelihood of future knee/shoulder problems, but I think that if health isn't a big issue, this is a guy who's proven he can make plays in the NFL, and as has been pointed out before, that's something that's sorely lacking right now. He'll come cheap, and he'll come for a one year deal. IMO, finding a spot on the 90 man roster for this guy and seeing what happens next wouldn't be a bad thing at all.

HoustonFrog
05-29-2012, 11:34 AM
Twitter

Evan Silva ‏@evansilva
Heard reliably that UDFA receiver Dwight Jones, from UNC, has quit the #Texans. May explain interest in Sims-Walker.

DX-TEX
05-29-2012, 11:35 AM
Twitter

IF true that kid has some serious issues.

NCTexan
05-29-2012, 11:41 AM
IF true that kid has some serious issues.

Agreed. I'm hoping it's not true though.

powda
05-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Relax. He didnt quit...he just has another college party to go to...

Ryan
05-29-2012, 11:42 AM
Kudos to the next Andre Johnson. :koolaid:

burro
05-29-2012, 12:07 PM
Our best healthy WR, at the moment, is Kevin Walter...backed up by two rookies.

CALL EVERYBODY. Not against this at all.

ChampionTexan
05-29-2012, 01:35 PM
Good point TCR, New England is going to cut some talented WRs.

Like? 31 year old Donte Stallworth? 33 year old Deion Branch? Or how about 34 year old Chad Johnson (that's right, I call him Johnson). If these guys have anything left, they'll be catching passes from Brady.

The correct answer is D - None of the above.
Not old - just perpetually injured.
Mike Reiss ‏@MikeReiss

Patriots announce the release of WR Anthony Gonzalez.

GP
05-29-2012, 02:22 PM
Mike Sims-Walker got cut from the Jags and the Rams last year. Two teams with the worst WR's in the league.

I'd like to keep it in proper perspective here:

Both those teams had MAJOR problems putting together anything that resembled a professional PASSING attack. QB issues, protection issues, and overall coaching/scheme issues too.

Getting cut from those two teams, last year, was the best thing that could happen to any player who wants another shot at being a WR in the NFL. otherwise, you're going to get hurt or suffer piss-poor stats all season long while being on a truly awful team.

Not saying Sims-Walker is the next Andre Johnson or anything, since we know how that worked out for Dwight Jones upon making that prediction, but I;m saying that I know there's two AFC South games this year Sims-Walker would love to play for the Texans in.

GP
05-29-2012, 02:23 PM
Anybody thinking about Anthony Gonzalez (formerly of the Colts, who was signed by Pats a month or so ago and released by Pats today)?

Reliable hands. Savvy route runner. Consistent.

drunkcookie
05-29-2012, 02:29 PM
Anybody thinking about Anthony Gonzalez (formerly of the Colts, who was signed by Pats a month or so ago and released by Pats today)?

Reliable hands. Savvy route runner. Consistent.

I'd give him a look for sure...hadn't heard about that...

Allstar
05-29-2012, 02:33 PM
Anybody thinking about Anthony Gonzalez (formerly of the Colts, who was signed by Pats a month or so ago and released by Pats today)?

Reliable hands. Savvy route runner. Consistent.

Consistently injured.

DX-TEX
05-29-2012, 02:55 PM
Anybody thinking about Anthony Gonzalez (formerly of the Colts, who was signed by Pats a month or so ago and released by Pats today)?

Reliable hands. Savvy route runner. Consistent.

No. Plaxico is till out there! Take the flyer Smithiak and bring him in!

GP
05-29-2012, 03:13 PM
Consistently injured.

True. I served that one up on a tee for anyone out there. You hit it out of the park.

He has some injury issues. Getting released by the Pats might be a sign that things are not well. Or they just have a log jam at receiver position(s).

Either way, just throwing it out there for discush.

ObsiWan
05-29-2012, 07:13 PM
Mike sims walker has had two indivdual seasons better than the entire career of this clown.

I was thinking more along the lines of special teams help. We don't need him to start.
I'm thinking we'll find WRs #3-5 from the youngsters we brought in.

And Sims-Walker was their #1 and not playing third fiddle to Megatron.

ArlingtonTexan
05-29-2012, 08:12 PM
I was thinking more along the lines of special teams help. We don't need him to start.
I'm thinking we'll find WRs #3-5 from the youngsters we brought in.

And Sims-Walker was their #1 and not playing third fiddle to Megatron.

The Texans have the "other things Wr" in Walter. they actually need a dude who the best thing he does is get open and catch the ball. Stovall is 3rd rounder like both Jacoby and sims-Walker who has done less as wide reciever than either one of them. For all of sims-walker's flaws we have seen actully that guy play decent NFL Wr. Stovall is special team who position is listed at WR.

ObsiWan
05-30-2012, 03:23 AM
The Texans have the "other things Wr" in Walter. they actually need a dude who the best thing he does is get open and catch the ball. Stovall is 3rd rounder like both Jacoby and sims-Walker who has done less as wide reciever than either one of them. For all of sims-walker's flaws we have seen actully that guy play decent NFL Wr. Stovall is special team who position is listed at WR.

The problem with Sims Walker - as Doc CND pointed out - is he hasn't been able to stay on the field.

As I said before, our slot guy will likely turn out to be one of the new & speedy youngsters. According to TC, Posey is lookeing good there.

Man, I can hardly wait until training camp. I want to see these guys for myself.

CloakNNNdagger
05-30-2012, 05:10 PM
True. I served that one up on a tee for anyone out there. You hit it out of the park.

He has some injury issues. Getting released by the Pats might be a sign that things are not well. Or they just have a log jam at receiver position(s).

Either way, just throwing it out there for discush.

The Pats must have really not liked something, probably unrecovered injury, to release him after just a few days of OTA!

gary
05-30-2012, 05:55 PM
Was Walker signed?

Texn4life
05-30-2012, 05:59 PM
Was Walker signed?

Not yet...... McClain said in his chat today that no veterans will be signed until after June 1st.

Texans_Chick
05-30-2012, 08:57 PM
Whatever the deal with Dwight Jones whatever, I think the plan was always to look to see what vet WR might be available after June 1 at a reasonable price.

Think Texans look at a lot of bargain FA guys at a lot of positions. Roster is 90 so they have some play around room.

infantrycak
05-30-2012, 09:58 PM
June 1st is an almost irrelevant date now. It's a relic of teams figuring out how to work a salary cap and a little bit of an out valve for early in big deals. It's even less significant of an issue in the last few years because teams can designate two players as June 1st cuts well before June 1st.

El Tejano
05-31-2012, 07:48 AM
Has this guy signed or what?

SAMURAITEXAN
05-31-2012, 10:24 AM
Has this guy signed or what?

More than likely only on or after June 1st.

leebigeztx
06-01-2012, 08:57 PM
Why not just sign Plaxico? He's a red zone threat and can stil run. He makes more sense than msw.

Lucky
06-01-2012, 10:13 PM
Why not just sign Plaxico?
How much $$$ does Burress want? If he were willing to sign for the minimum (like Sims-Walker), he would be on a roster by now.

ArlingtonTexan
06-01-2012, 10:16 PM
Why not just sign Plaxico? He's a red zone threat and can stil run. He makes more sense than msw.

So that fans can complain that they never sign the most familiar named free agent?

Burres did have a pretty decent year last year, but he comes off as more a red-zone specialist. i just continue to think that they need a more complete player. while at their best Plaxico has been better, he will 35 in before the season and the potential "upside' belongs sims-walker at this point in their careers.

CloakNNNdagger
06-01-2012, 11:13 PM
How much $$$ does Burress want? If he were willing to sign for the minimum (like Sims-Walker), he would be on a roster by now.


Last year, he played for 3 million. This year, someone will give him at least 2.

GP
06-02-2012, 11:33 AM
So that fans can complain that they never sign the most familiar named free agent?

Burres did have a pretty decent year last year, but he comes off as more a red-zone specialist. i just continue to think that they need a more complete player. while at their best Plaxico has been better, he will 35 in before the season and the potential "upside' belongs sims-walker at this point in their careers.

We actually need a Red Zone WR, IMO.

But as has been pointed out, he won't sign for league minimum. Not this year.

TimeKiller
06-02-2012, 11:45 AM
I don't see the need for Mike Sims-Walker or for some other mediocre veteran. Bryant Johnson, Derrick Mason? These are just guys who have gotten themselves in the way of developing rookies. With experience literally everywhere else, rely on the talent of the youth you've drafted. Walter is the veteran, sliding back into obscurity and poses as a bar to be jumped. Posey, Martin, Jean, Maehl, Holliday, Louis, Iglesias if not potential there's plenty of mediocrity to go around without adding MSW.

DX-TEX
06-02-2012, 11:49 AM
We actually need a Red Zone WR, IMO.

But as has been pointed out, he won't sign for league minimum. Not this year.

Then he more than likely would have signed somewhere already. No one will give him more so he will sign for less.