PDA

View Full Version : Texans sign PK Shayne Graham


michaelm
05-07-2012, 03:35 PM
According to 610 text alert, Texans have signed veteran place kicker Shayne Graham.


http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/07/source-texans-sign-k-shayne-graham/

eriadoc
05-07-2012, 03:37 PM
That's a decent pick-up. He's had some quality seasons in the league, and should provide a stiff challenge to the kid from A&M.

The Pencil Neck
05-07-2012, 03:38 PM
This was already talked about in the Bulluck draft thread.

I think this is a good pickup. We need some sort of competition for that spot.

The Cush
05-07-2012, 03:45 PM
So if Shayne Graham wins the job what happens to Bullock? Do we carry 2 kickers? Do we cut him? Practice squad him? If we practice squad him is he exposed to being picked up by someone else?

Texn4life
05-07-2012, 03:49 PM
So if Shayne Graham wins the job what happens to Bullock? Do we carry 2 kickers? Do we cut him? Practice squad him? If we practice squad him is he exposed to being picked up by someone else?

That's a really good question. I like the competition aspect out of it because we'll have some good camp competitions, but its dangerous if Graham out-performs him during the preseason.

Rey
05-07-2012, 03:56 PM
So if Shayne Graham wins the job what happens to Bullock? Do we carry 2 kickers? Do we cut him? Practice squad him? If we practice squad him is he exposed to being picked up by someone else?

I don't see us carrying two kickers and I'm not sure how having a kicker on the PS is beneficial.

My guess is that in the event that Grahm does beat him out, Bullock is just cut...

If that happens then it's not a huge deal...He was a 5th round pick...Now if we had taken him in the 3rd like the Jags did then it would kind of suck...:spin:


But my guess is that Bullock ends up getting the job.

PapaL
05-07-2012, 04:02 PM
I want the best possible K. Drafted, FA, UDFA...don't care. EARN your position.

SheTexan
05-07-2012, 04:02 PM
May the best man win!! We're talking about a POSSIBLE SB run this year, so experience would definitely be a PLUS!! JMO. Our ST needs to be GREAT to make up for the unknowns we have with our O. They say D's win SB's, but, a good kicker might be the one to put those winning points on the board, IF we have O problems like we did last year. When it's all said and done, it's the score at the end of the game that matters! Kickers put a lot of points on the board! Just ask Brionas. (SP)

Will be fun to watch um duke it out in TC!! Can't wait til July!!

Joe Texan
05-07-2012, 04:05 PM
We will put the best foot foreward

badboy
05-07-2012, 04:09 PM
Texans have said Bullock is like ice & that is a plus. Hope he makes team. Maybe someone will give us a third for Graham in a few months...whahah

ObsiWan
05-07-2012, 08:40 PM
I want the best possible K. Drafted, FA, UDFA...don't care. EARN your position.

May the best man win!! We're talking about a POSSIBLE SB run this year, so experience would definitely be a PLUS!! JMO. Our ST needs to be GREAT to make up for the unknowns we have with our O. They say D's win SB's, but, a good kicker might be the one to put those winning points on the board, IF we have O problems like we did last year. When it's all said and done, it's the score at the end of the game that matters! Kickers put a lot of points on the board! Just ask Brionas. (SP)

Will be fun to watch um duke it out in TC!! Can't wait til July!!

What they said.

GP
05-07-2012, 09:29 PM
I am pretty sure Bullock makes the team regardless of if Graham out-performs him.

This is about making Bullock challenge himself during camp and preseason...an added form of incentive to make sure he takes everything 100% seriously and does his very best at all times.

Without a challenger, he can mentally "check out" all the way to reg season opener. But having another foot trying to beat him out? It makes him focus like a laser beam all throughout camp and preseason.

Oh. And he's from A&M, by the way. :fingergun:

Allstar
05-07-2012, 09:31 PM
Bullock is a shoe-in for the spot unless Graham just blows everyone away. Smithiak just loves competition, and rightfully so.

Rey
05-07-2012, 09:33 PM
I am pretty sure Bullock makes the team regardless of if Graham out-performs him.

This is about making Bullock challenge himself during camp and preseason...an added form of incentive to make sure he takes everything 100% seriously and does his very best at all times.

Without a challenger, he can mentally "check out" all the way to reg season opener. But having another foot trying to beat him out? It makes him focus like a laser beam all throughout camp and preseason.

Oh. And he's from A&M, by the way. :fingergun:

I think you're right for the most part.

I think bullock would need to really suck or Grahm would have to be much better.

I don't see either of those happening so my guess is bullock makes it. I think Grahm was also brought in to almost tutor him or show him the ropes. He's a vet kicker that's been around and he can share some stuff with the youngster.

GP
05-07-2012, 09:39 PM
I think you're right for the most part.

I think bullock would need to really suck or Grahm would have to be much better.

I don't see either of those happening so my guess is bullock makes it. I think Grahm was also brought in to almost tutor him or show him the ropes. He's a vet kicker that's been around and he can share some stuff with the youngster.

Yep. He could fall apart, so it's good to have a backup plan in Graham.

Last year's freaky Maynard-Hartmann situation spooked me big time. Nobody here agreed with Kubiak cutting Hartmann in favor of Maynard...then Maynard has an atrocious final preseason game and Kubiak cuts Maynard and brings back Hartmann. Never did understand his reasoning for cutting the wrong guy the first time around.

I hope he doesn't get cute on the K situation. All indications point to Bullock being the nails out there on the field.

Allstar
05-07-2012, 09:46 PM
lol, completely forgot about the punter flip flop last year. Good times :)

TexanSam
05-07-2012, 09:53 PM
I think you're right for the most part.

I think bullock would need to really suck or Grahm would have to be much better.

I don't see either of those happening so my guess is bullock makes it. I think Grahm was also brought in to almost tutor him or show him the ropes. He's a vet kicker that's been around and he can share some stuff with the youngster.

Graham's been solid his entire career though. I doubt he came here to be a mentor. I think he has a decent shot of beating the kid for the position.

Rey
05-07-2012, 10:02 PM
Graham's been solid his entire career though. I doubt he came here to be a mentor. I think he has a decent shot of beating the kid for the position.

If I'm Grahm and I want a real shot of making an opening day roster I'd go somewhere that didn't just spend a draft pick on a kicker.

I'm pretty sure Rick whispered sweet nothings in his ear and of course showed him the money.

I'm not saying that he came here to be a mentor. I'm saying that may be part of the reason the texans brought him in.

Dutchrudder
05-07-2012, 10:21 PM
Graham has about as good of a chance of getting the job as Kris Brown did when we signed Rackers. It's Bullocks job to lose at this point.

TheMatrix31
05-07-2012, 11:06 PM
I'd rather have signed Longwell. More of a veteran presence to learn from.

Hopefully Bullock rises to the challenge.

pec0sb0b
05-08-2012, 12:51 AM
Oh. And he's from A&M, by the way. :fingergun:

Guess A&M has replaced Colorado State as Kubiak's practice squad.

drs23
05-08-2012, 10:16 AM
Guess A&M has replaced Colorado State as Kubiak's practice squad.

Yeah, what's up with that? Two years in a row and no CS players.

El Tejano
05-08-2012, 10:30 AM
Yeah, what's up with that? Two years in a row and no CS players.

His son finally graduated.

drs23
05-08-2012, 02:02 PM
His son finally graduated.

AHH, I knew there had to be a sound reason. Sounds about right to me. :D

CloakNNNdagger
05-08-2012, 04:37 PM
It is said that he is accurate. But no one has ever accused him of having a strong leg.

Those of you that feel that Graham would have it over Bullock because being a vet and money "under fire," need to remember why the Bengals finally decided to let him go.

For Cincinnati Bengals, It's Time to Part Ways With Shayne Graham (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/323452-for-cincinnati-bengals-its-time-to-part-ways-with-shayne-graham)

His stints since the Bengals don't have the numbers to be statistically significant enough to make any dogmatic statements about his present potential.

Goldensilence
05-08-2012, 05:06 PM
I would think the idea that this squad is projected to win the AFC South again and could be in line for a deeper run in the playoffs is weighing on Rick and Gary.

There's likely to be some close games this year. You've got to wonder if this is more than a camp smoke screen for Bullock outright and think that maybe they are considering going with a veteran kicker.

Dutchrudder
05-08-2012, 05:09 PM
Guess A&M has replaced Colorado State as Kubiak's practice squad.

What? Bullock was the first Aggie Kubiak has drafted. Only the second in Texans history.

Thorn
05-08-2012, 05:09 PM
I think Bullock gets the job, but Smithiack wants to make sure he knows that his new job isn't his unless he produces. Graham is insurance only, and as we all know, insurance is a good thing in the NFL.

TimeKiller
05-08-2012, 05:20 PM
Yep. He could fall apart, so it's good to have a backup plan in Graham.

Last year's freaky Maynard-Hartmann situation spooked me big time. Nobody here agreed with Kubiak cutting Hartmann in favor of Maynard...then Maynard has an atrocious final preseason game and Kubiak cuts Maynard and brings back Hartmann. Never did understand his reasoning for cutting the wrong guy the first time around.

I hope he doesn't get cute on the K situation. All indications point to Bullock being the nails out there on the field.

Hartmann turned into a decent punter during the season but from what I remember, he wasn't exactly killing it before getting cut.

Camps are about competition. Graham has a job, that is to act as a bar for Bullock to jump over.

drs23
05-08-2012, 05:22 PM
It is said that he is accurate. But no one has ever accused him of having a strong leg.

Those of you that feel that Graham would have it over Bullock because being a vet and money "under fire," need to remember why the Bengals finally decided to let him go.

For Cincinnati Bengals, It's Time to Part Ways With Shayne Graham (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/323452-for-cincinnati-bengals-its-time-to-part-ways-with-shayne-graham)

His stints since the Bengals don't have the numbers to be statistically significant enough to make any dogmatic statements about his present potential.

Doesn't sound like too much competition. Bullock is going to be the kicker next season and many more to follow.

Good 5th round choice.

Rey
05-08-2012, 05:45 PM
Hartmann turned into a decent punter during the season but from what I remember, he wasn't exactly killing it before getting cut.

Camps are about competition. Graham has a job, that is to act as a bar for Bullock to jump over.

I'm thinking the Texans may see Hartmann as a valuable player. I'm assuming that since he hasn't been given an injury settlment and told to take a hike they still think he could be a member of the team.

Looking at his stats last year, he was decent. Just randomly looking at other punters it appears that they tend to get better with experience. Still a young guy, is a pretty good kick off specialist as well.

I hope he sticks around unless they just find someone flat out better.

drs23
05-08-2012, 06:07 PM
I'm thinking the Texans may see Hartmann as a valuable player. I'm assuming that since he hasn't been given an injury settlment and told to take a hike they still think he could be a member of the team.

Looking at his stats last year, he was decent. Just randomly looking at other punters it appears that they tend to get better with experience. Still a young guy, is a pretty good kick off specialist as well.

I hope he sticks around unless they just find someone flat out better.

Likewise, I'm sure. Kid was getting better as the season progress. I tend to agree with you train of thought Rey. If they were gonna cut the crop, they'd have done it already. They haven't been bashful to this point, I don't see them being tentative in regards to a punter/kicker.