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gary
04-28-2012, 09:42 PM
I am not going to be negative I like the draft. The kicker might have been a bit of a reach but I believe if you like a player than you take him no matter what. Three linemen add very much needed depth and any of them may start. The two receivers taken mean that Jacoby is likely gone. A pass rusher who should hopefully replace Mario and not cost as much money as him. Now it is time to sign free agents and look forward to the season. The draft is a crap shoot and everyone has their favorite players but there is a reason we are here and the Texans staff is making the decisions. We will find out soon enough. Thoughts?

badboy
04-28-2012, 09:57 PM
My thought is you said this 24 hours ago:

"I'll just wait to see them play."


Kind of fun, huh?

gary
04-28-2012, 10:03 PM
My thought is you said this 24 hours ago:

"I'll just wait to see them play."


Kind of fun, huh?I still feel that way but position wise it was good IMHO.

Playoffs
04-28-2012, 10:04 PM
I think they did a great job. My only concern is CB -- I think we need more & better.

Impressed with the timing of 3rd round picks to still get Crick, and impressed with the timing of drafting the K as it started a string of them.

badboy
04-28-2012, 10:19 PM
I think they did a great job. My only concern is CB -- I think we need more & better.

Impressed with the timing of 3rd round picks to still get Crick, and impressed with the timing of drafting the K as it started a string of them.I thought they'd sign a corner but glad didnot as this suggests to me happy with what we have.

gary
04-28-2012, 10:28 PM
I thought they'd sign a corner but glad didnot as this suggests to me happy with what we have.Do not the players or where they were selected?

Scooter
04-28-2012, 10:58 PM
my thoughts ... i couldnt be more in love with our defensive front 7. i railed against letting all-pro mario williams get away, and was quietly saddened by losing probowl d-roy captain demeco ... and yet with bradie james, a healthy sharpton, an improving wildman braman, growing MISTER alexander, and now mercilus and crick joining ... we're even stronger than we were last year (when we had the #2 defense in the NFL). if we can stay even remotely healthy, that is an incredible bunch of blue collar 60 minute buttload of talent front 7. mcnair's wanted to emulate the steelers ... that's how you do it, and with a coach right with lebeau as the two premier defensive specialists in the past couple of decades.

i'm not so sure about the individual players drafted on offense by kubiak, but by position i dont think we could've nailed it any better. 3 offensive linemen and 2 wide receivers (plus fan favorite keenum already as UDFA) ... perfection. the one that's giving me tingles however is brandon brooks because some have already started comparisons to one of my favorite texans - charles spencer. spencer had hands that were insane, and one scouting report on brooks is "he can wall a defensive end with one hand while looking for someone else to block with the other". love the positions on offense, and that player particularly.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 11:01 PM
I am not going to be negative I like the draft. The kicker might have been a bit of a reach but I believe if you like a player than you take him no matter what. Three linemen add very much needed depth and any of them may start. The two receivers taken mean that Jacoby is likely gone. A pass rusher who should hopefully replace Mario and not cost as much money as him. Now it is time to sign free agents and look forward to the season. The draft is a crap shoot and everyone has their favorite players but there is a reason we are here and the Texans staff is making the decisions. We will find out soon enough. Thoughts?

We needed a kicker. I don't think he was a reach at all. There were two more kickers selected within the next 14 picks. He wouldn't have been available at our next pick. So that wasn't a reach, that was perfect timing.

I have no problems with any of the other picks. I think we got a lot of good value and I think we improved our team.

Texan in Japan
04-28-2012, 11:20 PM
Very happy with the draft. Especially 1st, 3rd-Brooks, 4th-Crick and 5th-K. I had looked at and targeted Mercilus, Brooks and Crick prior to the draft. However, I thought Mercilus would be gone between 15-20, Brooks could go in the 2nd and Crick in late 2nd or early 3rd. We needed a kicker and we got a home town boy--thought 5th was a RD early, but I was wrong. Very excited about those picks.

Ben Jones ain't pretty, but his attitude and effort remind me of Carl Mauck and he was a great leader on our Oilers years ago.

Nick "Freight Train" Mondek's defensive line background and athletic ability are very intriguing. Great potential to develop into a RT for us and love the nickname!

Initially, I was perplexed when we didn't select Rueben Randle, but Posey's athleticism, speed and skills appear to be superior--his Senior season issues seem to be key reason he dropped and was available. I'm hoping he's ready, along with LeStar Jean to challenge for #2 WR.

Keshawn Martin is an exciting addition and appears to be our new PR/KR. Watched some tape and he's definitely got some play-making skills. Again, not another name that excited me, but once I took the time to look at him, I feel much better.

I think we've fortified our defense and increased depth and competition on the offensive line. Hopefully, we've done the same w/ our WRs.

gary
04-28-2012, 11:28 PM
The Texans were just a QB away from the big game last season.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 11:30 PM
The Texans were just a QB away from the big game last season.

1 QB or 1 JJ away, depending on your perspective.

gary
04-29-2012, 12:04 AM
1 qb or 1 jj away, depending on your perspective.lol.

ObsiWan
04-29-2012, 12:36 AM
1 QB or 1 JJ away, depending on your perspective.

mostly the QB.

BullNation4Life
04-29-2012, 01:22 AM
I think they did a great job. My only concern is CB -- I think we need more & better.

Impressed with the timing of 3rd round picks to still get Crick, and impressed with the timing of drafting the K as it started a string of them.

Man I hope we get to see Harrison this year. I really think the Texans held him back last year just to learn under JJ and Vance. I don;t think they wanted to throw him to the wolves like they did with KJ...

drs23
04-29-2012, 01:35 AM
Man I hope we get to see Harrison this year. I really think the Texans held him back last year just to learn under JJ and Vance. I don;t think they wanted to throw him to the wolves like they did with KJ...

I assume you mean Harris out of The U? Me too. Don't forget about Roc Carmichael either stashed on IR.

Is this not the first draft of Rick Smith's that didn't include a CB? As of 8 minutes ago they hadn't signed a FA CB either.

Seems to me they're saying "steady as she goes" at the position. No telling what happens between here and September 9th though. Guess we'll all find out together.

Speedy
04-29-2012, 02:25 AM
Agree with others about the kicker. He was the top rated kicker and the Texans got him just before a run on kickers took place. Like the pick and where they got him.

gary
04-29-2012, 12:01 PM
I think a fifth rounder or or later on a kicker is ideal.

Playoffs
04-29-2012, 12:34 PM
Wade is working on a country & western song about the defense...


Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Watt do u say? Down by the Crick or down by the Brooks

32m Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
#Bulls on Parade will now be Mercilus down by the Crick

ChampionTexan
04-29-2012, 12:38 PM
Wade is working on a country & western song about the defense...


Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Watt do u say? Down by the Crick or down by the Brooks

32m Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
#Bulls on Parade will now be Mercilus down by the Crick

With a field of Poseys on the other side?

G27RR
04-29-2012, 12:40 PM
Wade is working on a country & western song about the defense...


Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
Watt do u say? Down by the Crick or down by the Brooks

32m Wade Phillips ‏ @sonofbum Reply Retweet Favorite Open
#Bulls on Parade will now be Mercilus down by the Crick

If Manning were still in our division, we could've given him a Crick in his neck.

gary
04-29-2012, 12:44 PM
The defense should be even better than last season.

SheTexan
04-29-2012, 01:49 PM
Gary! Not sure why you think drafting a "kicker" was a bit of a reach. We didn't have one!! I saw a list of available FA kickers someone posted and the only one worth looking at MIGHT have been Scobee. Bullock was at the top of the list for that position, and was the best kicker in college football last year. I'm very happy with the pick, moreso than a couple of the earlier one's. BUT, like you, we are TEXAN fans and we'll support the guys in Battle Red, Liberty white, and Steel Blue! :fans:

beerlover
04-29-2012, 01:51 PM
Gary! Not sure why you think drafting a "kicker" was a bit of a reach. We didn't have one!! I saw a list of available FA kickers someone posted and the only one worth looking at MIGHT have been Scobee. Bullock was at the top of the list for that position, and was the best kicker in college football last year. I'm very happy with the pick, moreso than a couple of the earlier one's. BUT, like you, we are TEXAN fans and we'll support the guys in Battle Red, Liberty white, and Steel Blue! :fans:

speaking of kickers who is the Texans punter going to be?

Dutchrudder
04-29-2012, 01:53 PM
speaking of kickers who is the Texans punter going to be?

Donnie Jones I would think, but they may bring in an UDFA.

ChampionTexan
04-29-2012, 01:55 PM
Donnie Jones I would think, but they may bring in an UDFA.

And, while Brett Hartmann is coming off a knee injury, and has to serve 3 game suspension, the fact is that he is still under contract.

pappy
04-29-2012, 04:00 PM
I still feel that way but position wise it was good IMHO.

They missed an entire need in not picking any defensive backs , so i will say they were not good just ok . :wadepalm:

The Pencil Neck
04-29-2012, 04:24 PM
They missed an entire need in not picking any defensive backs , so i will say they were not good just ok . :wadepalm:

I don't think DB was that big of a need. Not with Brandon Harris and Roc Carmichael from last year's draft.

LikeMike
04-29-2012, 04:53 PM
They missed an entire need in not picking any defensive backs , so i will say they were not good just ok . :wadepalm:

I really don't get this argument. DBs take time to develope, so there is very Little chance some guy we draft would contribute this year. At the same time wie have some very promising young guys on the team that were injured or Sat and learn last year that are eager to contribute this year.

We were really thin at the OL, needed help at LB and the D-line, were desperate for a WR and didn't have a Kicker on the Team. Each Player we drafted fills a need - and I think a bigger Need than DB might have been.

I am very happy with this draft... I'd just have wished to be more excited about the WRs.

gary
04-29-2012, 05:59 PM
Kicker was a need but I am just not sure of the round. I am still happy.

SheTexan
04-29-2012, 07:24 PM
Kicker was a need but I am just not sure of the round. I am still happy.

We waited until the fifth round, he would have been gone by our sixth. If I'm not mistaken they had a run on kickers right after we picked him.

As for our "punter" I imagine it will be Jones. Might be fun watching the kickers duke it out in TC. :)

drunkcookie
04-29-2012, 07:56 PM
They missed an entire need in not picking any defensive backs , so i will say they were not good just ok . :wadepalm:

It's not about what we as fans feel is a need, it's about what the coaches feel is a need...

If Wade communicated to Smith that "Man, we sure need some CBs, Brandon and Roc just aren't gunna cut it here!" then it was absolutely a "need" that did not get addressed...

But if Wade has confidence in Brandon and Roc, then it wouldn't be a "need"...

these guys didn't show us fans jack squat last year, but it's not the fans they have to prove themselves to in last year's situation...

Rey
04-29-2012, 08:13 PM
They missed an entire need in not picking any defensive backs , so i will say they were not good just ok . :wadepalm:

This team isn't finished being constructed. Some team will cut a db, some guys will be on the scrap heap, some guys will be on other teams practice squads.

If they think we need a db they will get one that is equal or better talent of what a late round pick would gave been this year.

Plus between Harris and Carmichael one of them should atleast be a decent rotation player.

gary
04-29-2012, 09:47 PM
I am not worried about a CB.