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DerekLee1
04-28-2012, 02:07 PM
Yes!

Thorn
04-28-2012, 02:08 PM
I'm happy about this one. Really. I'm glad they took him. :)

XI CMURDER IX
04-28-2012, 02:08 PM
:trophy:

Dutchrudder
04-28-2012, 02:08 PM
First Aggie drafted by Kubiak! Good pick.

Yankee_In_TX
04-28-2012, 02:08 PM
Why yes? (I know nothing about him)

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 02:09 PM
Sweet!!!!:bravo:

bckey
04-28-2012, 02:09 PM
I love it! I thought it would be with our 6th rounder but I still like it. The Texans must have some good players on their radar that they feel are going to go undrafted.

VTexan
04-28-2012, 02:09 PM
Went to high school and used to play club soccer with this kid. Crazy he's now going to play in the NFL!

False Start
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
:yes:

Good pick.

rmartin65
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
Hell yea. Nice pick.

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
Why yes? (I know nothing about him)

The kid is an automatic field goal machine.

DerekLee1
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
Position of need, didn't reach. Super accurate (87% last year), really strong leg. Been starting kicker for A&M since his freshman year. Potential to be another Janikowski/Elam type that can boot a 58 yarder to win a game.

Lucky
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
The one pick that is an immediate starter.

badboy
04-28-2012, 02:10 PM
Most important pick imo.

Yankee_In_TX
04-28-2012, 02:12 PM
The kid is an automatic field goal machine.

Good all around? Kris was money long and sucked short, Rackers was money short and sucked long.

It would be nice to have a balanced kicker :)

DerekLee1
04-28-2012, 02:12 PM
I knew they'd take him, but thought it would be in the 6th. Obviously, they valued him enough that they didn't want to risk losing him in the next 40 picks.

amazing80
04-28-2012, 02:12 PM
WOOT WOOT!!!! Good pick and glad we grabbed him in round 5 to make sure we got him.....

Carr Bombed
04-28-2012, 02:12 PM
FANTASTIC!

We have had a excellent draft so far..


It would be nice to add another tackle to develop for depth though.. I'm pretty sure that's the position we'll spend our 6th rounder on.

drs23
04-28-2012, 02:13 PM
WAY COOL!

We've got the best kicker in the nation that will contribute for years to come.

Very well done Wade! (I just said Wade 'cause he's the only one that gets credit here) :D

b0ng
04-28-2012, 02:13 PM
First K off the board?

Lucky
04-28-2012, 02:14 PM
First K off the board?
Yes. The jags took a punter in the 3rd.

kiwitexansfan
04-28-2012, 02:14 PM
If he sticks with the team for 10yrs no one will question a 5th on a kicker.

phantom17
04-28-2012, 02:14 PM
Love this pick! I just gave the Texans a SOLID B!!!:bravo:

Wolf
04-28-2012, 02:15 PM
I knew they'd take him, but thought it would be in the 6th. Obviously, they valued him enough that they didn't want to risk losing him in the next 40 picks.

with the way the Jags are, I didn't think he would last till the 5th

:bender:

Thorn
04-28-2012, 02:15 PM
WOOT WOOT!!!! Good pick and glad we grabbed him in round 5 to make sure we got him.....

Somewhere buryed in all the posts I've made today is one in which I said I hoped they would take this guy in the 5th just to not lose him. And they did. I'm very very happy with this pick. :)

Lucky
04-28-2012, 02:16 PM
Somewhere buryed in all the posts I've made today is one in which I said I hoped they would take this guy in the 5th just to not lose him. And they did. I'm very very happy with this pick. :)
After all of these years, the Texans are finally listening to you.


Nah.

DerekLee1
04-28-2012, 02:19 PM
He didn't miss a single kick under 40 his entire senior year. Missed 2 over 40 and was 1/2 over 50. Has never missed a PAT in his entire college career. Was 87% his senior year overall.

NitroGSXR
04-28-2012, 02:19 PM
But can he tackle? How are his kickoffs?

welsh texan
04-28-2012, 02:22 PM
But can he tackle? How are his kickoffs?

Tackling is his biggest weakness according to his NFL.com writeup, kickoffs are a strength, can kick lots of touchbacks from 35 yds.

Thorn
04-28-2012, 02:23 PM
Tackling is his biggest weakness according to his NFL.com writeup, kickoffs are a strength, can kick lots of touchbacks from 35 yds.

Frankly, I hope the guy has enough sense NOT to tackle. He's not getting paid to do that anyway.

TEXANS84
04-28-2012, 02:23 PM
Great pick, Bullock will be our kicker for MANY years.

GlassHalfFull
04-28-2012, 02:24 PM
Whoop!!

Fili
04-28-2012, 02:24 PM
HE WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL! Klein High School!

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 02:26 PM
The Texans needed this guy and they couldn't take a chance on losing him before they got to their 6th rounder. Me likey.

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 02:26 PM
HE WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL! Klein High School!

Must be pretty sweet to get drafted by your home town team.

SW H-TOWN
04-28-2012, 02:27 PM
Great pick. We had to reach but we could not risk waiting until the 6th round. All the FA K left are horrible except for one. There are 2 other good K prospects but they are far less consistent than Bullock. We had to get a K. Go back to Rick Smith's press conference, when he said that about K rarely getting drafted it was such a bad smokescreen. I laughed when I read that. Welcome your new starting K, Randy Bullock.

DBCooper
04-28-2012, 02:27 PM
HE WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL! Klein High School!

So did I, but you never treat me with such enthusiasm.

nero THE zero
04-28-2012, 02:32 PM
HE WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL! Klein High School!

No kidding? That's also where I went.

GuerillaBlack
04-28-2012, 02:32 PM
Yes. The jags took a punter in the 3rd.
Punters are players, too................

TexansFanatic
04-28-2012, 02:32 PM
Kris was money long and sucked short, Rackers was money short and sucked long.


http://assets0.ordienetworks.com/images/GifGuide/michael_scott/tumblr_la8cct5YnD1qace781.gif

GlassHalfFull
04-28-2012, 02:33 PM
But can he tackle? How are his kickoffs?

He had the 12th man, he didn't need to tackle. :-)

TexanSam
04-28-2012, 02:34 PM
So did I, but you never treat me with such enthusiasm.

Same here. I sense some bias!

:bat:

welsh texan
04-28-2012, 02:41 PM
Rams just drafted a K with the first of the 6th round, you never know if both teams had them graded the same way round, but it kind of vindicates taking him in the 5th.

TheGoldenGreek
04-28-2012, 02:48 PM
Rams just drafted a K with the first of the 6th round, you never know if both teams had them graded the same way round, but it kind of vindicates taking him in the 5th.

Maybe it's like a fantasy draft. Nobody wants to be that guy that takes a kicker first, but once somebody does everybody drafts one. In this scenario however, I'm glad the Texans got their guy.

toxictrix
04-28-2012, 02:55 PM
I thought Greg Zuerlein was a higher ranked kicker but I'm glad we got our guy before the kicker rush started in the 6th. Great pick.

Errant Hothy
04-28-2012, 02:56 PM
I thought Greg Zuerlein was a higher ranked kicker but I'm glad we got our guy before the kicker rush started in the 6th. Great pick.

Walsh, UGA, goes 4 picks later.

beerlover
04-28-2012, 02:58 PM
Bullock was a smart pick, doesn't look like he would have even made it until the Texans select again.

TexanSam
04-28-2012, 03:00 PM
I thought Greg Zuerlein was a higher ranked kicker but I'm glad we got our guy before the kicker rush started in the 6th. Great pick.

Read on twitter that Zuerlein made 9 straight kicks from over 50 yards. That's pretty damn impressive.

But I can't nitpick our selection. He did win the Lou Groza award.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 03:00 PM
Walsh, UGA, goes 4 picks later.

Yep.

Good thing we got our boy when we did.

disaacks3
04-28-2012, 03:05 PM
Good all around? Kris was money long and sucked short, Rackers was money short and sucked long.

It would be nice to have a balanced kicker :) As long as his balance isn't sucking short AND long. :)

Whoop!! Yep. Figured they had him targeted after the press conference. Glad they got him before he got snatched up.

toxictrix
04-28-2012, 03:07 PM
Read on twitter that Zuerlein made 9 straight kicks from over 50 yards. That's pretty damn impressive.

But I can't nitpick our selection. He did win the Lou Groza award.

went 9 for 9 over 50 yards. Included two 58 yarders. Pretty beastly.

Fili
04-28-2012, 03:09 PM
No kidding? That's also where I went.

Yeah, I see him still workout at Klein occasionally. He's amazing.

welsh texan
04-28-2012, 03:13 PM
went 9 for 9 over 50 yards. Included two 58 yarders. Pretty beastly.

Fantastic stats, but in the NFL you'd prefer certainty <50 (missed 1 all season <50 and it was >40) and work on his leg, how many 50+ yarders do you expect to make a K attempt in a year?

Glad we've got the guy we feel most comfortable with.

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 03:15 PM
went 9 for 9 over 50 yards. Included two 58 yarders. Pretty beastly.

That is. But except at the end of the halves you don't see too many attempts a lot longer than 50, especially since you lose the 7 yards (the length of the snap) on a miss in the NFL whereas you don't in college. Most NFL teams will punt and play field position football once you start talking about 55+ yarders, even when your kicker has the leg for it.

G27RR
04-28-2012, 03:23 PM
WAY COOL!

We've got the best kicker in the nation that will contribute for years to come.

Very well done Wade! (I just said Wade 'cause he's the only one that gets credit here) :D

:lol:

chicagotexan2
04-28-2012, 03:24 PM
An aggie kicker? What's the over/under for how many times he kicksoff to the texans or kicks an onside backwards? I say 4.

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 03:39 PM
An aggie kicker? What's the over/under for how many times he kicksoff to the texans or kicks an onside backwards? I say 4.

Yeah, because that Aggie punter, Shane Lechler, has been so terrible in the NFL...

Brando
04-28-2012, 03:42 PM
Yeah, because that Aggie punter, Shane Lechler, has been so terrible in the NFL...

It was an Aggie joke.:kitten:

ziggy29
04-28-2012, 03:44 PM
It was an Aggie joke.:kitten:

Yeah, I know. I used to work for a guy who was a hard core UT guy and he had half of one bookshelf in his office that was devoted to books of Aggie jokes.

CloakNNNdagger
04-28-2012, 03:54 PM
Here is the human aspect of our new Texan:

From The Sacramento Bee
by Charean Williams
04/19/12

It was a simple question. During interviews at the NFL Scouting Combine, Houston Texans special teams coach Joe Marciano asked Texas A&M kicker Randy Bullock how he would handle his first adverse situation in the NFL. "You've never had a slump," Marciano said. "What happens when you have your first one?" Bullock, without blinking an eye, said, "Coach, my dad died when I was 15. How much more adversity is there?" Bullock was a freshman at Klein High School in Houston in 2004 when he and his older brother, Rhett, went on a hunting trip to South Texas with their father, Rich. On the final day of the trip, two days before Christmas, Rich died of a heart attack. He was 53. "It was tough, but at the same time, my mom and brother were very supportive of me the whole way," Bullock said. "I can't thank them enough for all the support that they've given me. They are a big part of my success." In his locker, Bullock keeps a picture of his dad, to whom he dedicated his senior season. Bullock won the Lou Groza Award as the nation's best kicker after making 29 of 33 field goals. For his career, Bullock made 63 of 80 field-goal attempts. Still, he isn't likely to be drafted. "It's tough, but at the same time, I think I have what it takes," Bullock said. "Draft day, I might not get a phone call, but I think I'll get an opportunity to go to camp somewhere and compete for a job."

And that he has.

4Texans
04-28-2012, 03:54 PM
I like the pick.:bravo:

Rey
04-28-2012, 04:06 PM
Good pick.

Allstar
04-28-2012, 04:26 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1209/rn_a_randybullock_ms_400.jpg

TheMatrix31
04-28-2012, 05:16 PM
Absolutely love it.

From everything I've read (mainly what's posted here, lol) he was the best kicker out there.

Special teams and field position wins and loses games. I'm glad we have an (apparently) rock solid kicker to go with. Hopefully he becomes our Jason Hanson.

Premier
04-28-2012, 05:17 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1209/rn_a_randybullock_ms_400.jpg

he is the anti-justin tryon...

GuerillaBlack
04-28-2012, 06:08 PM
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2011/1209/rn_a_randybullock_ms_400.jpg

Fat kicker.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/210/100/jano_display_image.jpg?1272225452

Fat kicker.

VTexan
04-28-2012, 09:40 PM
HE WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL! Klein High School!

So did I, but you never treat me with such enthusiasm.


No kidding? That's also where I went.

Same here. I sense some bias!

:bat:

whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

Norg
04-28-2012, 09:58 PM
mann this is a mad reach why couldnt they have waited to the 6th round to draft him


i know the risk of maybe losing him bt thats why u call the other teams and ask them if there going to take him or not which i doubt most teams already have there kicker

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 10:04 PM
mann this is a mad reach why couldnt they have waited to the 6th round to draft him


i know the risk of maybe losing him bt thats why u call the other teams and ask them if there going to take him or not which i doubt most teams already have there kicker

Seriously? NFL teams inform each other of the players they want to draft? Put the fantasy draft board away. The Texans needed a kicker and took the best one with one of their last two picks. Other teams grabbed kickers and punters before the Texan's next pick was up. Just because you think it was a reach doesn't make it true. Just saying.

Stemp
04-28-2012, 10:06 PM
mann this is a mad reach why couldnt they have waited to the 6th round to draft him


i know the risk of maybe losing him bt thats why u call the other teams and ask them if there going to take him or not which i doubt most teams already have there kicker

2 other kickers were drafted early in the 6th.
Bullock was the best kicker on the board so it was worth a late 5th to get the best kicker in the draft.

Allstar
04-28-2012, 10:09 PM
mann this is a mad reach why couldnt they have waited to the 6th round to draft him


i know the risk of maybe losing him bt thats why u call the other teams and ask them if there going to take him or not which i doubt most teams already have there kicker

http://i.imgur.com/Zjwo4.gif

Pantherstang84
04-28-2012, 10:11 PM
http://i.imgur.com/Zjwo4.gif

repped

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 10:11 PM
mann this is a mad reach why couldnt they have waited to the 6th round to draft him


i know the risk of maybe losing him bt thats why u call the other teams and ask them if there going to take him or not which i doubt most teams already have there kicker

There's no way he was a reach. He wasn't going to be available at our next pick. There were two more kickers taken within the next 15 picks. One of those teams might well have taken him.

So this was a good pick made at exactly the right time.

DBCooper
04-28-2012, 10:21 PM
whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

Before you were a twinkle in your daddy's eye!

Back when your mama was wild and carefree!

rickyb
04-28-2012, 10:23 PM
He had the 12th man, he didn't need to tackle. :-)

Here is my proposal: we cut Jacoby Jones (or trade him for a bag of chips), and give #12 jersey to Bullock.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 10:35 PM
Here is my proposal: we cut Jacoby Jones (or trade him for a bag of chips), and give #12 jersey to Bullock.

I think we have to give the chips to whoever's taking Jacoby. I don't think we get them in return for him.

Lucky
04-28-2012, 10:43 PM
one of those teams might well have taken him.
But did they ask those teams? How do they know for sure without asking?

chicagotexan2
04-28-2012, 10:44 PM
Yeah, I know. I used to work for a guy who was a hard core UT guy and he had half of one bookshelf in his office that was devoted to books of Aggie jokes.

That's b.s. longhorn grads can't read books.

The Pencil Neck
04-28-2012, 11:21 PM
But did they ask those teams? How do they know for sure without asking?

Yeah, Rick told me they did. He said he called up Ozzie Newsome and said, "Dude. Are you going to take Randy Bullock with your next pick?"

Ozzie Newsome replied, "Yeah. We're planning on taking him and then a guy named Nick Mondek in the 6th. Why?"

And Rick said, "Oh? No reason. Just curious."

Playoffs
04-28-2012, 11:29 PM
Anyone have any links to videos Bullock kicking on a practice field?

I like hearing the sound when a guy can really compress it. :D

gwallaia
04-28-2012, 11:34 PM
Sounds like a good kid. Look forward to watching him score points for us.

Lucky
04-28-2012, 11:38 PM
Yeah, Rick told me they did. He said he called up Ozzie Newsome and said, "Dude. Are you going to take Randy Bullock with your next pick?"

Ozzie Newsome replied, "Yeah. We're planning on taking him and then a guy named Nick Mondek in the 6th. Why?"

And Rick said, "Oh? No reason. Just curious."
He's crafty, that Rick Smith.

PapaL
04-28-2012, 11:45 PM
Maybe it's like a fantasy draft. Nobody wants to be that guy that takes a kicker first, but once somebody does everybody drafts one. In this scenario however, I'm glad the Texans got their guy.

There was a guy in my league a few years back that drafted 3 kickers and 2 defenses. His plan was to corner the market.

He came in last. Yup, cornered the market alright.

Texanmike02
04-28-2012, 11:57 PM
whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

I went to Klein back in 92.

I graduated in 1997 from Clear Lake. In between I went to 5 other high schools. Lost a year because of all of the moving is the reason I took 5 years to graduate.

Mike

CloakNNNdagger
04-29-2012, 10:34 AM
Fat kicker.

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/slides/photos/000/210/100/jano_display_image.jpg?1272225452

Fat kicker.

Bullock has actually "slimmed down" since his senior year at Klein HS:

Ht:5'9"verified
Wt:215 lbs

He now is down to a svelt 205 lbs!

Errant Hothy
04-29-2012, 10:58 AM
Anyone have any links to videos Bullock kicking on a practice field?

I like hearing the sound when a guy can really compress it. :D

That's what she said?

TexanSam
04-29-2012, 11:42 AM
whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

05. Don't even recognize my HS anymore though with all the construction being done to it.

Ryan02GT
04-30-2012, 09:46 AM
whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

make that 5.....02 here

GP
04-30-2012, 09:58 AM
That's b.s. longhorn grads can't read books.

It was audio books.

Stemp
04-30-2012, 10:22 AM
It was audio books.

On 8 track. :lol:

2012Champs
04-30-2012, 11:23 AM
05. Don't even recognize my HS anymore though with all the construction being done to it.




I love the "Your tax dollars at work" sign they have out front lol

El Tejano
04-30-2012, 01:09 PM
I had him on my wish list. I even believe I'm quoted somewhere saying I would take him in the 5th. So naturally I'm excited about this kid. I think he will do well for us.

Playoffs
05-01-2012, 06:34 PM
Does anyone know if the Texans scouted Greg Zuerlein at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rldQ0vYDok

281
05-07-2012, 01:57 PM
i heard we signed shayne graham today?..

Fili
05-07-2012, 02:17 PM
whoah. 4 fellow bearkats on the board? What years? 09 here.

Freshman right now....

Stemp
05-07-2012, 02:22 PM
i heard we signed shayne graham today?..

Hopefully just camp competition.

Dutchrudder
05-07-2012, 02:25 PM
i heard we signed shayne graham today?..

I don't know, did you?

Where did you hear this?

TexanSam
05-07-2012, 02:31 PM
i heard we signed shayne graham today?..

Where?

If true though, kinda makes you wonder why we drafted Bullock. Graham's been a very solid kicker his entire career.
http://www.nfl.com/player/shaynegraham/2504162/careerstats

ChampionTexan
05-07-2012, 02:54 PM
I don't know, did you?

Where did you hear this?

Some guy who said he grew up with Shayne tweeted Aaron Wilson (Ravens Insider on Twitter) that Shayne posted it to his facebook page. Wilson said he couldn't find it on Shayne's facebook page, but had texted his agent.

Tweet (https://twitter.com/#!/RavensInsider/status/199580200869175296)

I will say that it sounds like the type of signing the Texans would make to provide competition for Bullock, so I wouldn't be a bit surprised if it were true, but nothing's actually announced so far.

El Tejano
05-07-2012, 03:03 PM
i heard we signed shayne graham today?..

Great move if true. If Bullock is real, he's got comp to improve him and it also gives Bullock a veteran kicker to watch how he prepares. Worse that could happen is Graham wins the job.

The Pencil Neck
05-07-2012, 03:19 PM
If we did this, I like it. Makes for some competition in camp.

Playoffs
05-07-2012, 03:34 PM
Source: Texans Sign K Shayne Graham
By ANNA-MEGAN RALEY, CBS Houston

http://houston.cbslocal.com/2012/05/07/source-texans-sign-k-shayne-graham/

Still no confirmation

TejasTom
05-11-2012, 03:02 PM
Some guy who said he grew up with Shayne tweeted Aaron Wilson (Ravens Insider on Twitter) that Shayne posted it to his facebook page. Wilson said he couldn't find it on Shayne's facebook page, but had texted his agent...

First thought when read this...


Um, he's sick. My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who's going with the girl who saw Ferris pass out at 31 Flavors last night. I guess it's pretty serious.

Playoffs
09-30-2012, 01:50 PM
Does anyone know if the Texans scouted Greg Zuerlein at all?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rldQ0vYDok

Zuerlein had the bigger leg, and just hit from 48, 58, & 60. 11 for 11.

TheEastwood
09-30-2012, 06:10 PM
Our kickin game could be worse imo... We could have Cundiff lol. The announcer for the Redskins game,"And he'll get nothing and like it!" ahahahahaha

TexansFanatic
09-30-2012, 06:24 PM
Damn. Kubiak's Aggieness appears to have blinded him here.

Oh, well, can't really ***** about our recent drafts.

utahmark
09-30-2012, 06:57 PM
Damn. Kubiak's Aggieness appears to have blinded him here.

Oh, well, can't really ***** about our recent drafts.

One guy is hurt and the other is 4 games into his rookie season. I think it might be another game or two before we know who will have the better career.

TexansFanatic
09-30-2012, 07:00 PM
One guy is hurt and the other is 4 games into his rookie season.

Bullock was placed on IR. I think the jury is still out on whether he was honestly hurt.

utahmark
09-30-2012, 07:05 PM
Bullock was placed on IR. I think the jury is still out on whether he was honestly hurt.

Kareem Jackson played like he should of been put on IR his rookie year. He is looking pretty good now though.

Playoffs
09-30-2012, 08:11 PM
Zuerlein had the bigger leg, and just hit from 48, 58, & 60. 11 for 11.12 for 12.

How far can he kick one? "...maybe 65 yards."

Also, Zuerlein is the first kicker in history to kick 50+ & 60+ field goals in the same game.

Big Lou
03-09-2014, 11:16 PM
Lots of talk about pick 1.1 and 2.1, but I want to see a kicker taken. Not sure about this crop of kickers but Randy ain't gonna cut it this year.

Anybody got any insight in to kickers out there? I didn't get to see a lot of college ball last year.

Texn4life
03-09-2014, 11:44 PM
Lots of talk about pick 1.1 and 2.1, but I want to see a kicker taken. Not sure about this crop of kickers but Randy ain't gonna cut it this year.

Anybody got any insight in to kickers out there? I didn't get to see a lot of college ball last year.

Congrats........ You have definitely taken this somewhere I did not expect heading into the draft. Kicker talk!.............. I honestly have no clue about kickers in this draft, but I'd give the chubby fella another shot with a solid backup plan.

honored82
03-10-2014, 03:47 AM
We need a Veteran kicker. is Hauschka free agent ?This position is soo important as many games come down to last second field goal. I am pretty sure if Randy would have make all his kicks, we could have won 5 more games, and avoided two Overtimes.

htownfan32
03-10-2014, 06:44 PM
This team stunk so bad last year that even Randy Bullock is a bit of a haze to me. He'll get a chance to compete in camp but I expect O'Brien to bring in a vet to push him in camp/take over when Randy starts missing consistently.

aussie_texan
03-10-2014, 07:33 PM
he did improve over the course of the season, but admittedly there wasn't much pressure in the 2nd half of the year because we were getting thumped every game and also it isn't hard to improve from rock bottom

_King_
03-11-2014, 09:29 AM
I liked the Randy Bullock pick at the time. I would have preferred Walsh because he was noted as having the stronger leg, but I liked and mocked Randy Bullock to us.

He's had some struggles, but kickers are funny creatures. I wouldn't wait around for him to become a good kicker forever...I would bring serious competition into camp THIS year and really best man wins the job.

Big Lou
05-10-2014, 02:04 PM
Sure would like to see us take a kicker in round 6 or 7.

If we are in the process of a mini rebuild, last thing we need is a rookie kicker when we get back to being competative.......

TexansBull
05-10-2014, 02:26 PM
I read the first several posts and have realized the NFL draft can be like Christmas morning and most will generally like a pick and give benefit of the doubt to the gm/head coach.

CloakNNNdagger
05-10-2014, 05:01 PM
I hope that the OB regimen has lost its blind love for Bullock.......there better be at least some decent competition........putting Bullock under stressful conditions.

Playoffs
05-10-2014, 05:05 PM
We didn't draft Bullock again, did we? :kitten:

Thorn
05-10-2014, 05:21 PM
We didn't draft Bullock again, did we? :kitten:

You just thought we traded away that 5th round pick. LOL

jtexas
05-10-2014, 05:42 PM
I hope that the OB regimen has lost its blind love for Bullock.......there better be at least some decent competition........putting Bullock under stressful conditions.

Agreed. I've never seen a kicker shank so many kicks without getting cut. It defined Kubiak's ego of sticking with something until he gets fired.

HJam72
05-10-2014, 05:49 PM
So, hey, we got Randy Bullock? I knew he'd be a Texan. :smiliepalm:

The Pencil Neck
05-10-2014, 05:55 PM
So, hey, we got Randy Bullock? I knew he'd be a Texan. :smiliepalm:

Did your sources tell you that?


:kitten:

HJam72
05-10-2014, 05:57 PM
Did your sources tell you that?


:kitten:

Some of them denied it. :)

Marshall
05-10-2014, 08:22 PM
I hope that the OB regimen has lost its blind love for Bullock.......there better be at least some decent competition........putting Bullock under stressful conditions.

With the signing of Chris Boswell out of Rice, the competition will be intense.

jtexas
05-11-2014, 07:32 AM
With the signing of Chris Boswell out of Rice, the competition will be intense.

I sense you're being sarcastic. Has anyone seen Boswell kick?

CloakNNNdagger
05-11-2014, 10:11 AM
I sense you're being sarcastic. Has anyone seen Boswell kick?

Yep. As I posted in another thread, he has a problem with FGs beyond the 40, although he can certainly find the EZ with his KOs.

CloakNNNdagger
08-19-2014, 07:01 PM
And again Bullock for the 2nd year has been put up against essentially no competition. Color me concerned.........but this year at least I will carry standby medicine to take before each field goal attempt.

Marshall
08-19-2014, 07:06 PM
And again Bullock for the 2nd year has been put up against essentially no competition. Color me concerned.........but this year at least I will carry standby medicine to take before each field goal attempt.

There was no problem with the quality of the competition. He was a top 5 kicker and top 2 for most of the pre draft. Bullock has a year's experience and that makes a difference. Kicking off the ground with bigger faster rushers requires an adjustment that takes some longer than others. I still like him as a kicker. I won't be holding my breath any longer than I would with the top kicker in the NFL.

Troy Chapman
08-19-2014, 08:50 PM
Bullock has put everything dead center between the posts during the ATL game.

Speedy
08-19-2014, 08:55 PM
And again Bullock for the 2nd year has been put up against essentially no competition. Color me concerned.........but this year at least I will carry standby medicine to take before each field goal attempt.

After his 14 for 23 start in the first 9 games, including 8-17 from 40+, he finished 12 for 12 in the last 7 games, including 5-5 from 40+.

CloakNNNdagger
08-19-2014, 09:24 PM
After his 14 for 23 start in the first 9 games, including 8-17 from 40+, he finished 12 for 12 in the last 7 games, including 5-5 from 40+.

He made 1 of 5 FGs 50 yds or over..........the only one being 51 yds. Being able to make longer FGs can be the difference between winning and losing a game.

Speedy
08-19-2014, 10:05 PM
Being able to make longer FGs can be the difference between winning and losing a game.

Well of course it can. The FGs from 40-49 included. He missed from 43 and 49 in the Indy game that would have won that one (a 55 yard miss too). Had a 40 yarder blocked against Arizona that would have at least tied that game. Those were the only 2 games they lost where FGs made that he missed could have made the difference.

Only Vinatieri had more attempts of 40+ than Bullock last season. Granted, the All-Pro only missed 4 of those 23 attempts unlike the rookie Bullock's 9 misses in 22 (yes I know he wasn't technically a rookie), but like I said, after game 9 he hit everything including all 5 of his chances from 40+ which included 2 from 49 and a 51 yarder.

And Adam Vinatieri missed 8 FGs his 1st season. He also made just 8 of his first 19 career attempts from 50+, and I think he turned out to be OK.

CloakNNNdagger
08-20-2014, 05:34 AM
Well of course it can. The FGs from 40-49 included. He missed from 43 and 49 in the Indy game that would have won that one (a 55 yard miss too). Had a 40 yarder blocked against Arizona that would have at least tied that game. Those were the only 2 games they lost where FGs made that he missed could have made the difference.

Only Vinatieri had more attempts of 40+ than Bullock last season. Granted, the All-Pro only missed 4 of those 23 attempts unlike the rookie Bullock's 9 misses in 22 (yes I know he wasn't technically a rookie), but like I said, after game 9 he hit everything including all 5 of his chances from 40+ which included 2 from 49 and a 51 yarder.

And Adam Vinatieri missed 8 FGs his 1st season. He also made just 8 of his first 19 career attempts from 50+, and I think he turned out to be OK.

The second half of last season, the Texans had such little confidence in him making any long FGs that they trotting him out only ONCE for a 50+ yd attempt...........and that was only for a 51 yder.

sandman
08-20-2014, 07:21 AM
The second half of last season, the Texans had such little confidence in him making any long FGs that they trotting him out only ONCE for a 50+ yd attempt...........and that was only for a 51 yder.

In the second half of last season, what part of their game did they have any confidence in? Not like it was a well oiled machine and Bullock was a squeaky cog.

Would love to have the time to go back and look at all of the drives in the second half of the season to see where there were legitimate FG opportunities that were passed on. It's only an issue that they trotted him out once for a 50+ if there were several opportunities that they instead chose to punt or go for it. I honestly don't know how many opportunities we are talking about here. Maybe someone does.

CloakNNNdagger
08-20-2014, 03:29 PM
In the second half of last season, what part of their game did they have any confidence in? Not like it was a well oiled machine and Bullock was a squeaky cog.

Would love to have the time to go back and look at all of the drives in the second half of the season to see where there were legitimate FG opportunities that were passed on. It's only an issue that they trotted him out once for a 50+ if there were several opportunities that they instead chose to punt or go for it. I honestly don't know how many opportunities we are talking about here. Maybe someone does.

I also can't give you specifics. But the reason I brought it up is because I remember quite a few times where I was left scratching my head wondering why Bullock wasn't sent out to kick a FG.

Speedy
08-20-2014, 04:51 PM
Against Oakland he was 3-3, (51, 26, 30). The Texans had drives stall at the Oak 40, which would have been about a 57, 58 yard attempt - they punted. They are down 14-0 at this point and Lechler sticks it at the 11, holding pushes it back to the 6. Another drive stalls at the Oak 48 - that's 60+, they punted.

Jacksonville - Bullock is 2-2 (49, 20). 2nd quarter drive stalls at the Jax 43 (50/51 yd att), it's 7-0 Jax and the Texans elect to punt. Pinned at the 15. Start of the 4th, it's 10-6 Jax, Hou blocks a FG and starts the drive at the Jax 49. 3 plays later it's 4th and 1 at the Jax 40 (57/58 yd att) and they go for it and fail.

New England - Bullock 1-1 (43). 1st drive of the game stalls at the NE 39 (46/47 yd att) - they punt. Lechler pins them at the 7. That was the only chance like that in that game, other than the 43 yarder he kicked and made.

Jacksonville - 2-2 (31, 34). Opening drive of the 2nd half, it's 17-7 Jax. Drive stalls at the Jax 37 (44/45 yd att), Texans punt. Lechler sticks it at the 4. 4th quarter, 3:45 to go, Texans down by 4, go for it on 4th and 2 at the Jags 13. Fail. You need the 6 there not 3. Then again, had they kicked the 45 yarder earlier, then all you'd need is a chip shot 3 there.

Indy - 1-1 (49). 2nd Q down 10-3, 4th down at the Indy 42 (49/50yd att), Texans punt. He had already made a 49 yarder in this game in the 1st Q. 4th Q down 25-3 with 2:50 to go, Texans go for it 4th and 10 at the Indy 41. That's what you do in that spot.

Denver - 2-2 (45, 35). End of 3rd Q, Denver up 16-13, drive stalls at the Den 43 (50/51 yd att). Texans punt.

Titans - 1-1 (19). 1st Q drive up 7-0, 4th and 10 at the Ten 43 (50/51 yd att), Texans punt. That was it in that game.

So I counted 4 opportunities from right at 50 yards where they elected to punt, and only 2 of those might have made any difference. One would have tied the game against Denver at 16, a game they eventually lost 37-13, and the other would have given them a 10-0 lead on the Titans, a game they ended up losing 16-10. And remember, they were 2-13 going into the game.

2 opportunities from around 57, unless you're in Denver that's almost always a punt.

2 more opputunities from around 45-47 yards where they punted instead. Those are definitely head scratchers, no doubt.

So really just 6 legitimate opportunities where they elected not to go for the 3.

Still, he was 5-5 from 40 plus, including his only 50+ attempt. And it was just his 1st year in the league. He does have to improve, especially from long range, but I'm not quite ready to 'boot' him out of here just yet.

DocBar
08-20-2014, 05:45 PM
Against Oakland he was 3-3, (51, 26, 30). The Texans had drives stall at the Oak 40, which would have been about a 57, 58 yard attempt - they punted. They are down 14-0 at this point and Lechler sticks it at the 11, holding pushes it back to the 6. Another drive stalls at the Oak 48 - that's 60+, they punted.

Jacksonville - Bullock is 2-2 (49, 20). 2nd quarter drive stalls at the Jax 43 (50/51 yd att), it's 7-0 Jax and the Texans elect to punt. Pinned at the 15. Start of the 4th, it's 10-6 Jax, Hou blocks a FG and starts the drive at the Jax 49. 3 plays later it's 4th and 1 at the Jax 40 (57/58 yd att) and they go for it and fail.

New England - Bullock 1-1 (43). 1st drive of the game stalls at the NE 39 (46/47 yd att) - they punt. Lechler pins them at the 7. That was the only chance like that in that game, other than the 43 yarder he kicked and made.

Jacksonville - 2-2 (31, 34). Opening drive of the 2nd half, it's 17-7 Jax. Drive stalls at the Jax 37 (44/45 yd att), Texans punt. Lechler sticks it at the 4. 4th quarter, 3:45 to go, Texans down by 4, go for it on 4th and 2 at the Jags 13. Fail. You need the 6 there not 3. Then again, had they kicked the 45 yarder earlier, then all you'd need is a chip shot 3 there.

Indy - 1-1 (49). 2nd Q down 10-3, 4th down at the Indy 42 (49/50yd att), Texans punt. He had already made a 49 yarder in this game in the 1st Q. 4th Q down 25-3 with 2:50 to go, Texans go for it 4th and 10 at the Indy 41. That's what you do in that spot.

Denver - 2-2 (45, 35). End of 3rd Q, Denver up 16-13, drive stalls at the Den 43 (50/51 yd att). Texans punt.

Titans - 1-1 (19). 1st Q drive up 7-0, 4th and 10 at the Ten 43 (50/51 yd att), Texans punt. That was it in that game.

So I counted 4 opportunities from right at 50 yards where they elected to punt, and only 2 of those might have made any difference. One would have tied the game against Denver at 16, a game they eventually lost 37-13, and the other would have given them a 10-0 lead on the Titans, a game they ended up losing 16-10. And remember, they were 2-13 going into the game.

2 opportunities from around 57, unless you're in Denver that's almost always a punt.

2 more opputunities from around 45-47 yards where they punted instead. Those are definitely head scratchers, no doubt.

So really just 6 legitimate opportunities where they elected not to go for the 3.

Still, he was 5-5 from 40 plus, including his only 50+ attempt. And it was just his 1st year in the league. He does have to improve, especially from long range, but I'm not quite ready to 'boot' him out of here just yet.

So what, no more hating on Bullock? But I've invested so much!!! What about the games lost by 3 points or less1?

Speedy
08-20-2014, 06:35 PM
So what, no more hating on Bullock? But I've invested so much!!! What about the games lost by 3 points or less1?

You go hate on whoever you want to. It's a free ****ing country. Man, some of you guys are just a bunch of douches.

HouTx11
08-20-2014, 06:35 PM
He deserves to be our starting kicker. He has done really well in recent games and CLEARLY doing better than that other kicker. I'm pulling for him to do well this year!:gun:

CloakNNNdagger
08-21-2014, 06:22 PM
Deepi Sidhu @DeepSlant 5h

O'Brien says Randy Bullock is "in the lead" in the kicker competition. #Texans

Don't despair, I hear there will be more legitimate competition entering the kicker race very soon.


http://rs1img.memecdn.com/race-horse_c_3275425.jpg

barrett
08-21-2014, 10:59 PM
I'm with "fat Randy"!

False Start
08-22-2014, 01:02 AM
It looks like Frodo it is.

Fred
08-22-2014, 10:53 AM
Against Oakland he was 3-3, (51, 26, 30). The Texans had drives stall at the Oak 40, which would have been about a 57, 58 yard attempt - they punted. They are down 14-0 at this point and Lechler sticks it at the 11, holding pushes it back to the 6. Another drive stalls at the Oak 48 - that's 60+, they punted.

Jacksonville - Bullock is 2-2 (49, 20). 2nd quarter drive stalls at the Jax 43 (50/51 yd att), it's 7-0 Jax and the Texans elect to punt. Pinned at the 15. Start of the 4th, it's 10-6 Jax, Hou blocks a FG and starts the drive at the Jax 49. 3 plays later it's 4th and 1 at the Jax 40 (57/58 yd att) and they go for it and fail.

New England - Bullock 1-1 (43). 1st drive of the game stalls at the NE 39 (46/47 yd att) - they punt. Lechler pins them at the 7. That was the only chance like that in that game, other than the 43 yarder he kicked and made.

Jacksonville - 2-2 (31, 34). Opening drive of the 2nd half, it's 17-7 Jax. Drive stalls at the Jax 37 (44/45 yd att), Texans punt. Lechler sticks it at the 4. 4th quarter, 3:45 to go, Texans down by 4, go for it on 4th and 2 at the Jags 13. Fail. You need the 6 there not 3. Then again, had they kicked the 45 yarder earlier, then all you'd need is a chip shot 3 there.

Indy - 1-1 (49). 2nd Q down 10-3, 4th down at the Indy 42 (49/50yd att), Texans punt. He had already made a 49 yarder in this game in the 1st Q. 4th Q down 25-3 with 2:50 to go, Texans go for it 4th and 10 at the Indy 41. That's what you do in that spot.

Denver - 2-2 (45, 35). End of 3rd Q, Denver up 16-13, drive stalls at the Den 43 (50/51 yd att). Texans punt.

Titans - 1-1 (19). 1st Q drive up 7-0, 4th and 10 at the Ten 43 (50/51 yd att), Texans punt. That was it in that game.

So I counted 4 opportunities from right at 50 yards where they elected to punt, and only 2 of those might have made any difference. One would have tied the game against Denver at 16, a game they eventually lost 37-13, and the other would have given them a 10-0 lead on the Titans, a game they ended up losing 16-10. And remember, they were 2-13 going into the game.

2 opportunities from around 57, unless you're in Denver that's almost always a punt.

2 more opputunities from around 45-47 yards where they punted instead. Those are definitely head scratchers, no doubt.

So really just 6 legitimate opportunities where they elected not to go for the 3.

Still, he was 5-5 from 40 plus, including his only 50+ attempt. And it was just his 1st year in the league. He does have to improve, especially from long range, but I'm not quite ready to 'boot' him out of here just yet.

Nice work digging up all the info. However on most of the examples you left out the 10 yards for the endzone. LOS at the 43 is a 61 yard FG not 51. So the 4 near 50 yarders are 60+ yarders. Even the one from the Jax 37 would be 55 yards.

So in the game at Jax they punted and pinned them on the 4 yardline instead of trying a 55 yard FG and late in the game they went for it on 4th & 2 (down by 4 points) instead of trying a 31 yard FG. Other than that game the shortest FG not attempted would have been 57 yards (LOS 39) against NE. Which all just makes your point even more so.

CloakNNNdagger
08-22-2014, 12:44 PM
Nice work digging up all the info. However on most of the examples you left out the 10 yards for the endzone. LOS at the 43 is a 61 yard FG not 51. So the 4 near 50 yarders are 60+ yarders. Even the one from the Jax 37 would be 55 yards.

So in the game at Jax they punted and pinned them on the 4 yardline instead of trying a 55 yard FG and late in the game they went for it on 4th & 2 (down by 4 points) instead of trying a 31 yard FG. Other than that game the shortest FG not attempted would have been 57 yards (LOS 39) against NE. Which all just makes your point even more so.


The measurement of a field goal's distance in NFL stats is from the goalpost to the point where the ball was positioned for the kick by the holder. (A 51 yd FG [Bullock's longest] means a FG kicked from a LOS of 34 yd line.)

Fred
08-22-2014, 01:18 PM
The measurement of a field goal's distance in NFL stats is from the goalpost to the point where the ball was positioned for the kick by the holder. (A 51 yd FG [Bullock's longest] means a FG kicked from a LOS of 34 yd line.)

Correct. Although in the last 20 years everyone puts the ball down 8 yards behind the LOS instead of 7 like in the old days, so a 51 yd FG is probably LOS of 33 yardline.

They did put Tom Dempsey's 63 yarder back 8 yards. That was when the goal posts were at the goal line, so his LOS was the 45 on the far side of the 50.

barrett
08-22-2014, 02:27 PM
Correct. Although in the last 20 years everyone puts the ball down 8 yards behind the LOS instead of 7 like in the old days, so a 51 yd FG is probably LOS of 33 yardline.

They did put Tom Dempsey's 63 yarder back 8 yards. That was when the goal posts were at the goal line, so his LOS was the 45 on the far side of the 50.

How did I miss this? I'm so ashamed. I've been blindly assuming we were all still using the 7 yard system.

I feel nauseous.

Lucky
08-22-2014, 07:24 PM
You just thought we traded away that 5th round pick. LOL

Now we're bumping threads from 2 years ago.